


February 21, 2013
Suppressors: Wyoming Gov. Signs Bill Allowing Suppressed Guns for All Hunting
By Chad Love

The hills of Wyoming will be alive with the sound of...silence. Wyoming Gov. Matt Mead signed a bill allowing the use of suppressed guns for all hunting.
From this story in the Casper Star-Tribune:
Gov. Matt Mead signed a bill into law that will allow the use silencers on firearms for all types of hunting. Mead signed the bill on Monday and the law will go into effect in July. The federal government regulates silencers and 39 states allow civilian ownership of them. Wyoming will join 27 other states that allow their use for hunting. The American Silencer Association has been pushing legislation in several states this year to allow using silencers for hunting. The Wyoming Game Wardens Association had opposed the bill, saying silencers could help poachers and would give hunters an unsporting advantage over game.
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Great photo, I imagine a tweeded up suburbanite sniping squirrels in Westchester County.
about time wyoming got on the bandwagon. my neighbor state to the north has far more sensible firearms laws than does the state of colorado. this state's legislature is populated by elitist liberals, most of whom seem to have been transplanted here from california and brought their goofy politics with them.
it's about time for the federal government to get their heads out of their nether regions and make it perfectly legal for all gun owners to use suppressors for all firearms. or even mandate suppressors for all hunting and shooting. such laws are common throughout the rest of the world. why not here?
the batfe would save money by eliminating the man hours and paperwork that goes along with managing suppressors and gun owners would benefit by not having to pay the outrageous fees associated with suppressor ownership and also would benefit from increased performance of their hunting arms. i.e.; better accuracy and muzzle velocity. to say nothing of hearing protection.
the government has too many stupid laws on the books. this is one law that needs to be changed soon.
Great contrast to the lead-free ammo in California post today.
Two things:
1. I did not know 27 states already allowed them. That's a lot.
2. One would think that "The American Silencer Association" wouldn't use "silencer" in their name, but rather "suppressor?"
I have to say, I kind of agree with the Wyoming Game Wardens Association. It seems a little "unsporting" to me. I mean, you take a shot and miss occasionally, I understand that things go wrong and there are a million "reasons" (cough cough, excuses) why you miss shots, but 9/10 you miss because it's a shot you probably shouldn't be taking. If the sound of a gun shot isn't gonna scare off the animal I feel like this will only encourage hunters to take more shots from ridiculoulsy long distances. I may have an old school mentality about it, but I just don't like the idea of a silencer. It's called hunting, not killing, for a reason. Sometimes the animal outwits you and survives. Why should you get to add one more advantage to your arsenal?
If poachers can afford supressors, don't you think they already use them? Seems like a nonissue to me. You still have the crack of the bullet with supersonic ammo, so it's not like they would be undetectable.
Suppressors do not eliminate the sound of the shot being fired and if you can still hear a significant report fro the shot. Sure, it is quieter than without but I bet animals will still hear it unless they are over 400-500 yards so I don't think it is "unsporting". I think suppressors would be especially useful in bear country where some people say the bears have been trained to follow the sound of a rifle to a free lunch. Maybe a suppressor won't alert a bear as much.
That would be great for prairie dogs. However, hunting whitetail in Missouri, mostly on public land, I like hearing gunshots. Sometimes, it's the only way to know where another hunter is located.
Sure doesn't look like it does much for the handling qualities of the rifle. Makes them a lot longer and probably very muzzleheavy. I could see using them for varmints around the homestead but I sure wouldn't put one on a big game rifle.
For me the bang is half the fun:)
A properly placed shot from a rifle generally creates a clean one shot kill. The animal never hears the shot BTW.
Suppressors should be legal in all states. I don't care to hear other shooters when I am in the woods. As long as they aren't shooting at me, so what! If someone is careless enough to shoot in my direction, and actually shoot me, well, it won't matter much if he/she is using a suppressor or not will it?
Additionally I don't think that the game really has an opinion on the matter.
I agree that a properly placed shot will generally be one shot, one kill. My point is that if people aren't worried about the sound of their rifle spooking the animal at a longer distance, would many hunters not be more tempted to take a crack at that long shot that they would normally consider out of their range? And if they are shooting farther than they really should be with their skills and miss entirely, well that's one thing. But to shoot from a great distance, wound an animal, and then it dies days later and miles away from the shot, well then that animal is no good to anybody. I'm just worried that hunters would start cracking off a lot farther shots without thinking twice because they aren't going to spook the animal if they miss at that distance with a supressor. Just my opinion though.
And yes the damned muzzle brake will leave my 7 mm x .404 to be replaced with a suppressor as soon as arrangements can be made. My ears and those of my hunting companions will be absolutely delighted. No more ringing the dinner bell for the grizzlys, no more everyone in the hills knowing where I am, and Topper at a long distance the animals don't usually notice a miss even with a very loud rifle.
TopperFan Luke I understand your concern about the ethics of the long "Hail Mary" shot, I really do. I simply do not think a suppressor will be a factor either way. It is my opinion that those who may be tempted to take a longer shot than their current skill level would support will do so regardless if they are using a suppressor or not. In my state I would hesitate to say it's rife, but I have seen in enough in the beanfields. Fortunately, for the animal, its usually a clean miss. Those that I have observed taking those shots were in an adjacent field and not hunting with those I hunt with.
JohnR, I see your point too, an irresponsible hunter is going to be just that, irresponsible, regardless of the equipment they are using.
I meant to add a suggestion that you guys look at Thunderheart/Cheyenne on You Tube. Several videos of one of the best silencers in action, the lack of noise is impressive even if suppressors are not particularly esthetically appealing.
Forgive me for making numerous entries as I am now fat and old. Teddy Roosevelt owned a Model 94 with a suppressor attached for eliminating pests around his Long Island home. He preferred not to disturb the Tiffany family or the DuPonts with local gunfire. Take a look in the NRA National Gun Museum for a few pictures of the piece. If it's good enough for Theodore then it's good enough...
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Great photo, I imagine a tweeded up suburbanite sniping squirrels in Westchester County.
Great contrast to the lead-free ammo in California post today.
Two things:
1. I did not know 27 states already allowed them. That's a lot.
2. One would think that "The American Silencer Association" wouldn't use "silencer" in their name, but rather "suppressor?"
Suppressors do not eliminate the sound of the shot being fired and if you can still hear a significant report fro the shot. Sure, it is quieter than without but I bet animals will still hear it unless they are over 400-500 yards so I don't think it is "unsporting". I think suppressors would be especially useful in bear country where some people say the bears have been trained to follow the sound of a rifle to a free lunch. Maybe a suppressor won't alert a bear as much.
And yes the damned muzzle brake will leave my 7 mm x .404 to be replaced with a suppressor as soon as arrangements can be made. My ears and those of my hunting companions will be absolutely delighted. No more ringing the dinner bell for the grizzlys, no more everyone in the hills knowing where I am, and Topper at a long distance the animals don't usually notice a miss even with a very loud rifle.
about time wyoming got on the bandwagon. my neighbor state to the north has far more sensible firearms laws than does the state of colorado. this state's legislature is populated by elitist liberals, most of whom seem to have been transplanted here from california and brought their goofy politics with them.
it's about time for the federal government to get their heads out of their nether regions and make it perfectly legal for all gun owners to use suppressors for all firearms. or even mandate suppressors for all hunting and shooting. such laws are common throughout the rest of the world. why not here?
the batfe would save money by eliminating the man hours and paperwork that goes along with managing suppressors and gun owners would benefit by not having to pay the outrageous fees associated with suppressor ownership and also would benefit from increased performance of their hunting arms. i.e.; better accuracy and muzzle velocity. to say nothing of hearing protection.
the government has too many stupid laws on the books. this is one law that needs to be changed soon.
If poachers can afford supressors, don't you think they already use them? Seems like a nonissue to me. You still have the crack of the bullet with supersonic ammo, so it's not like they would be undetectable.
That would be great for prairie dogs. However, hunting whitetail in Missouri, mostly on public land, I like hearing gunshots. Sometimes, it's the only way to know where another hunter is located.
Sure doesn't look like it does much for the handling qualities of the rifle. Makes them a lot longer and probably very muzzleheavy. I could see using them for varmints around the homestead but I sure wouldn't put one on a big game rifle.
For me the bang is half the fun:)
A properly placed shot from a rifle generally creates a clean one shot kill. The animal never hears the shot BTW.
Suppressors should be legal in all states. I don't care to hear other shooters when I am in the woods. As long as they aren't shooting at me, so what! If someone is careless enough to shoot in my direction, and actually shoot me, well, it won't matter much if he/she is using a suppressor or not will it?
Additionally I don't think that the game really has an opinion on the matter.
I agree that a properly placed shot will generally be one shot, one kill. My point is that if people aren't worried about the sound of their rifle spooking the animal at a longer distance, would many hunters not be more tempted to take a crack at that long shot that they would normally consider out of their range? And if they are shooting farther than they really should be with their skills and miss entirely, well that's one thing. But to shoot from a great distance, wound an animal, and then it dies days later and miles away from the shot, well then that animal is no good to anybody. I'm just worried that hunters would start cracking off a lot farther shots without thinking twice because they aren't going to spook the animal if they miss at that distance with a supressor. Just my opinion though.
TopperFan Luke I understand your concern about the ethics of the long "Hail Mary" shot, I really do. I simply do not think a suppressor will be a factor either way. It is my opinion that those who may be tempted to take a longer shot than their current skill level would support will do so regardless if they are using a suppressor or not. In my state I would hesitate to say it's rife, but I have seen in enough in the beanfields. Fortunately, for the animal, its usually a clean miss. Those that I have observed taking those shots were in an adjacent field and not hunting with those I hunt with.
JohnR, I see your point too, an irresponsible hunter is going to be just that, irresponsible, regardless of the equipment they are using.
I meant to add a suggestion that you guys look at Thunderheart/Cheyenne on You Tube. Several videos of one of the best silencers in action, the lack of noise is impressive even if suppressors are not particularly esthetically appealing.
Forgive me for making numerous entries as I am now fat and old. Teddy Roosevelt owned a Model 94 with a suppressor attached for eliminating pests around his Long Island home. He preferred not to disturb the Tiffany family or the DuPonts with local gunfire. Take a look in the NRA National Gun Museum for a few pictures of the piece. If it's good enough for Theodore then it's good enough...
I have to say, I kind of agree with the Wyoming Game Wardens Association. It seems a little "unsporting" to me. I mean, you take a shot and miss occasionally, I understand that things go wrong and there are a million "reasons" (cough cough, excuses) why you miss shots, but 9/10 you miss because it's a shot you probably shouldn't be taking. If the sound of a gun shot isn't gonna scare off the animal I feel like this will only encourage hunters to take more shots from ridiculoulsy long distances. I may have an old school mentality about it, but I just don't like the idea of a silencer. It's called hunting, not killing, for a reason. Sometimes the animal outwits you and survives. Why should you get to add one more advantage to your arsenal?
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