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February 04, 2010

Petzal: Robert Ruark’s Africa

By David E. Petzal

It is now 47 years since Patsy Cline’s short, sad life ended in a plane crash, and no country singer has come along to equal her. Ted Williams batted .406 in 1941, and not even the past decade’s crop of steroid-bloated imbeciles has come close to matching that record. Joe Louis hung up his gloves in 1949, having held the heavyweight title for 12 years, setting a mark that will never fall. And since 1966, when Robert Ruark’s liver disintegrated in a London hospital, no one has written half as well about Africa.

And this is why we should welcome Safari Press’ release of Robert Ruark’s Africa, which was compiled and annotated by Michael McIntosh, and originally published by Countrysport Press, in 1991. The book’s 20 chapters are collected from magazine pieces Ruark did (all sorts of magazines; not just Field & Stream), and I doubt you’ve seen any of them before. McIntosh, who is a fine writer himself, provides a little gem of an introduction to Ruark, his life and times, and comments on the chapters, which are organized into three parts: first hunts, Mau Mau years, and final years.

This book is the best writing you can find on the greatest big-game hunting in the world, and if something like that is not worth reading, my name is Peter Hathaway Capstick.
256 pps; illustrated. $35 from safaripress.com.

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from hengst wrote 2 years 3 days ago

Outstanding..Thanks for the report this is a definate must own.. since I have only been able to read a few or Ruark's writings..BTW thanks for the link..loads of other great books I want to read

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from Happy Myles wrote 2 years 3 days ago

I wholeheartedly agree. Glad you mentioned McIntosh's Introduction, it should be read and reread, for an Intro that is quite a compliment. Over the years I have given away many copies if this book when I could find them, so pleased to here Safari Press is reprinting it

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from focusfront wrote 2 years 3 days ago

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from wgp wrote 2 years 3 days ago

I have Horn of the Hunter and Something of Value on my shelf. Ruark's quotes from Harry Shelby about African hunting are memorable, as is the quote in the preface to Something of Value: "If a man does away with his traditional way of living and throws away his good customs, he had better first make certain that he has something of value to replace them". Applies to lots of situations and I keep it on a sign on my shelf.

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from yohan wrote 2 years 3 days ago

Hmmmm ?? well ,...Mr Petzal
Aside from the vast polical chasm that seperates us

The truth is, aside from that venue.
I actually happpen to think you do a pretty dam good job "On Africa". Have read a few articles over the years.
Maybe not as frilly as those before you.
And thankfully not as uppity as some of your contemporaries. Or should I say recent contemporaries.
Even the special brand of Petzal sarcasm if taken the way I percieve it.
Beats the feathers off some pissy uppity pain in the stock and checkering faries butt .

I would even go so far as to suggest you yourslef get on that train

Unexpected as this smay be ,. a rule I have is this.
(It is what it is )
Thusly in my huumble opinion you "is" a good writer ,. so if you haven't,.. consider writing a book on Africa,
If you already have tell me which one please.

Best Regards ( except for the political stuff)

Yohan

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from yohan wrote 2 years 3 days ago

Hmmmm ?? well ,...Mr Petzal
Aside from the vast polical chasm that seperates us

The truth is, aside from that venue.
I actually happpen to think you do a pretty dam good job "On Africa". Have read a few articles over the years.
Maybe not as frilly as those before you.
And thankfully not as uppity as some of your contemporaries. Or should I say recent contemporaries.
Even the special brand of Petzal sarcasm if taken the way I percieve it.
Beats the feathers off some pissy uppity pain in the stock and checkering faries butt .

I would even go so far as to suggest you yourslef get on that train

Unexpected as this smay be ,. a rule I have is this.
(It is what it is )
Thusly in my huumble opinion you "is" a good writer ,. so if you haven't,.. consider writing a book on Africa,
If you already have tell me which one please.

Best Regards ( except for the political stuff)

Yohan

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from yohan wrote 2 years 3 days ago

Ahhh crap sorry for double post
Dont like you THAT much ya know

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from buckhunter wrote 2 years 3 days ago

So this is how it starts. I read Ruark last month, "The Old Man and the Boy." This month I'm reading Capstick, "Warrior." In between I'm on the internet looking for affordable hunts in Africa. I have no doubt I will track down "Robert Ruarks Africa" and eagerly read each page. It's like a whole new world has opened up to me. For the first time in my life I see myself going on an African Safari. Just one more kid to get through college...

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from IowaGuy wrote 2 years 3 days ago

Thanks for the book suggestion, look forward to getting a copy!

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from Happy Myles wrote 2 years 3 days ago

As Dave mentioned, Ruark wrote for many magazines and was a newspaper columnist. I always felt O'Connor and Keith looked down their noses at him because he was not a firearm expert. By the time Ruark died, he had spent more time hunting Africa than either of the "experts".
Reading his works, helped keep my African goals in mind which secondarily improved by income.
Pardon the typos in my earlier post, "if" for of, and "here" should have been hear

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 2 years 3 days ago

Quick, for 10 extra Field and Stream Blog + points, who wrote Patsy Cline's hit 'Crazy' (1961)?

No fair cheating.

I read Robert Ruark's stuff as a kid and was always facinated by his storytelling. Maybe I need to buy that book!

Thanks, David

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 2 years 3 days ago

Happy Myles

You don't need to nitpick primers, powder, and a tenth of an inch bullet drop when facing and angry Daggaboy. I would express my opinions on the writers mentioned, but if I can't speak ill of Dead Ted anymore, I'll let them R.I.P. as well.

Firearms expert or not, you best have the right stuff when it comes right down to "nut cuttin' time", as my sage Oklahoma friend puts it.

Best regards,
WMH

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from stumpthumper wrote 2 years 3 days ago

Who wrote Crazy? That's an easy one. The great Willie Nelson.

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from stumpthumper wrote 2 years 3 days ago

Who wrote Crazy? That's an easy one. The great Willie Nelson.

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from stumpthumper wrote 2 years 3 days ago

Who wrote Crazy? That's an easy one. The great Willie Nelson.

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from buckhunter wrote 2 years 3 days ago

Willie

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from Amflyer wrote 2 years 3 days ago

Stump, your record is stuck....stuck...stuck...stuck...

The way I heard it, Patsy Cline was no fan of Willie. I like his version of the song better anyway.

Ok, here's an aside: Who wrote the 70's cheese-O-rama song "Convoy?"

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from Sneaky wrote 2 years 3 days ago

As if my list of books to read wasn't already long enough thanks to Petzal.

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from Mike Diehl wrote 2 years 3 days ago

"Convoy" was performed and maybe written by "C.W. McCall" but I remember hearing some time ago that "C.W. McCall" was some other guy's pen name.

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from straightshooter wrote 2 years 3 days ago

It looks like another Ruark book is about to join the three that are already on the bookshelf. He was a wonderfully talented writer and his "The Old Man and the Boy" is a classic that I go back to often.

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from .88Mag wrote 2 years 3 days ago

Love Ruarks writing. "The Old Man and the Boy" was my first, that one gets loaned to anyone and everyone who shows half a gleam of interest in the outdoors. Everyone should read it. My first edition "Use Enough Gun" stays safely on my shelf though. Even if it is another "must read", I can't let it out of the house, sorry.

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from Beekeeper wrote 2 years 3 days ago

I look forward to reading this collection of stories. There are those that say Capstick's works are a fabrication. Merely the retelling of stories he heard while "field testing" hunts for Winchester. I do get that feeling reading some of Capstick's stuff. That feeling never rises when I read Ruark's words.

Cheers! Dave

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from Ralph the Rifleman wrote 2 years 3 days ago

Only you, Dave, could pen an article of Africa with the opening line about a country singer...and baseball...nicely done!
Yea, Ruark was some kinda guy; Love his writings.

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from Jere Smith wrote 2 years 3 days ago

I have all of Ruarks books EXCEPT "The Old Mans Boy Grows Older" and Grenadine Spawn ( Which has nothing to do with Africa or Hunting and This one which I have on order.

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from crm3006 wrote 2 years 3 days ago

More Robert Ruark. Great! Having read and re-read The Old Man and the Boy, The Old Man's Boy Grows Older, Uhuru, Something of Value, The Honey Badger, Poor No More, Ruark on Guns and Hunting, and Use Enough Gun, and possibly some more, I'm sure there will be some old ground covered, but any Ruark is good reading.

The only thing worse than a stupid post by yo yo is a double stupid post by yo yo.

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from idduckhntr wrote 2 years 3 days ago

Allways carry a big enough gun.

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from Jim in Mo wrote 2 years 3 days ago

Dave,
I ordered and am reading Terry Wielands new Dangerous Game Rifles II. I've got most of Ruark's books but never had or read his mag articles, if that is what this book has I'd be glad to order it to.

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from country road wrote 2 years 3 days ago

Another of Ruark's books I must get and read. I discovered his writing in the early sixties and was devastated when he drank himself to death a short time later and I realized there wouldn't be any more by him. Seems I was wrong, since I didn't know about this collection. Thanks, Dave.

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from Bellringer wrote 2 years 3 days ago

I have read many of Peter Hatahway Capstick's books, I am confused, are they factual or merely novels.

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from rudyglove27 wrote 2 years 3 days ago

Mr. Petzal,
Thank you for posting this Book, I placed an order yesterday and hopefully I get it soon!!!

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from Tom-Tom wrote 2 years 3 days ago

How about a look at the DEP Library sometime. What do you read, collect and/or recommend? I am considering a gift of books to our local library that deal with hunting and the outdoors and the opinions of youself and fellow bloggers would ne welcome.

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from huntenthusiest wrote 2 years 3 days ago

I just purchased a 1991 edition on Ebay for $30 and look forward to reading it. Thanks for the suggestion.

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from auburn_hunter wrote 2 years 3 days ago

Tom-Tom -
Though it is not about hunting, I think everyone's library (both personal and public) should include a copy of Lone Survivor by Marcus Luttrell. Every warm-blooded American should read and re-read it to better appreciate what we have and what our Special Forces put on the line for our freedoms and rights each and every day.

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from Tom-Tom wrote 2 years 3 days ago

auburn-hunter --

Thank you, an excellent selection. I am also going to add the excellent books by E.B. "Sledgehammer" Sledge. A gift of few thousand dollars could end up anywhere but a gift of books that share a passion is more appealing.

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from PbHead wrote 2 years 3 days ago

Once again Dave, thanks for the tip. Please do as Tom-Tom asked and give us that reading list from Professor Petzel.

It took me three years to find an affordable copy of Ruark's "I Didn't Know It Was Loaded". It was worth the wait.

Regarding Ruark and Capstick: I think Ruark was an author, Capstick a writer. Micky Spillane explained the difference but I can't remember the details.

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from tom warner wrote 2 years 3 days ago

I too am a bit confused regarding Capstick's writings. I have also heard the rumors and wondered. Years ago, when Capstick was first writing, I read an article by him in one of the outdoor mags in which he talked about his adventures with various snakes in Africa. I happen to know quite a bit about snakes, and his accounts were a total load of BS! Ever since that time, as he became a very successful writer, I was suspicious regarding truthfulness of his stories. He certainly was a very good writer! Do any of you have any comments on this? Yes, I also grew up reading Ruark and admired his stuff.

Tom

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from yohan wrote 2 years 3 days ago

Hee hee ,..
Told ya short croch we got you pegged as a drunk and a phony,.usually drunks are phonys and broke to boot.
So as I said,.. you aint worth the time,. until somebody ( probably a trucker) or some he knows feeds us the right info.
Then ??? good idea you have a large supply of depends,. the senior diaper. Y Y

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from wingshooter54 wrote 2 years 3 days ago

Horn of the Hunter, The Old Man and the Boy, & The Old Man's Boy Grows Older revealed some of the best writing I have ever had the pleasure of reading. As a pre-teen, I knew what being on a safari was like; Ruark told me. His two novels about growing up with his grandfather as an outdoor mentor hit home with me. I grew up shooting doves, quail, and fishing with my father and his cronies (some of their antics were reminiscent of The Lower Forty stories)and most all the time was the only kid in the group. I wouldn't trade anything for those memories, nor my dog-eared worn out original paperback copies of Ruark's books. Having read all of Capstick's works, there is no comparison. Peter was a storyteller, and a damn good one, but Ruark was a WRITER.

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from edalweber wrote 2 years 2 days ago

Robert Ruark was one of the best outdoor writers that ever lived, and his book "Horn of the Hunter" is a classic of African hunting.I wish I could see the movie he made about one of his safaris. However, when he ventured into fiction, he wasn't as good, at least about Africa. It is a striking contrast with his nonfiction works. In "Horn of the Hunter" he makes fun of all the phoney cliches in safari novels, and then uses every one when HE wrote novels about Africa.I understand that "Something of Value" was regarded in Kenya as ridiculous, and laughed at.Pity that he didn't write more nonfiction books about Africa, but unfortunately sappy novels sell better,to people who don't know how unrealistic that they are.

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from focusfront wrote 2 years 2 days ago

Yesterday the power went out (bad storm) while I was responding to this blog, so all that got sent was "Tha", yet I still got a positive response from somebody! Nice to be on a blog with a friendly bunch of guys for a change.

I'll keep my eyes open for this book. I haven't read anything by Ruark except part of "Use Enough Gun," but that was pretty good writing.

Never having had the experience (the biggest thing I've ever busted a cap on is whitetail deer), I've always wondered what you actually aim for when you are being charged by a lion, grizzly bear, buffalo, etc. If you are Elmer Keith, you carefully break the shoulder. I'm no Elmer Keith, and I've read that a lion charges at about 40 miles per hour, and it isn't that big a target from the front. Do you just aim for the nose? Put the front sight/ crosshairs on the thickest part of the blur coming at you and just keep shooting? Or is it as easy as it seems to be in print?

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from Bernie wrote 2 years 2 days ago

Ruark was indeed without peer as a writer. I may be an ignoramus, but I prefer his writing to Hemingway's. I own five or six of his books, including "Robert Ruark's Africa" from 1995 and published by Countrysport Press. Years ago I checked out all his other books from the library and read them. It is a shame that he drank himself to death. I think he was 48 at the time of his death, and I believe he died in 1965--not '66. He was delightfully politically incorrect. In his book, "The Honey Badger" he wrote that this animal lived in Africa and that it attacked by going straight for the genitals..."much like the American female". Can you imagine writing something like that today?

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from ericb622 wrote 2 years 2 days ago

I have read all of Ruark's books, both of hunting and socio-political unrest in colonial east africa along with africanization. Something of Value and Uhuru should be mandatory reading for all history students, everyone for that matter, considering our current president is a product of Africanization and the students it sent here in the early 60's from Kenya.

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from Amflyer wrote 2 years 2 days ago

Convoy was written by a guy named Louis F. Davis, also known as "Chip" Davis. He's the guy from Mannheim Steamroller that is best known for the Christmas albums.

Paul Harvey is rolling over in his grave.

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from Mock1 wrote 2 years 2 days ago

Thanks Dave. i don't think i've read any Rourke, but when I was a kid, I loved reading capstick. I ordered the book, to be sent to my pizza store so the wife doesn't find out I spent another 35 bucks! Anyways, i'm looking forward to the read. I just wish it didn't take 12 to 15 days to get here. That always ticks me off as it didn't take that long to charge my cc :)

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from O Garcia wrote 2 years 1 day ago

I have Horn of The Hunter. But I only saw [the movie] of Something of Value. I do have the March 1981 anniversary issue of Field & Stream where Ruark's story on buffalo hunting was included. (Other stories in that issue: Warren Page going after bongo, Jack O'connor's first sheep, Cornelius Ryan going after Scottish stag.)

Which reminds me, what are the chances that an outdoor magazine like F&S would count among its writers two journalists/reporters in R. Ruark and C. Ryan?

Obviously Ruark "made" Harry Selby, which was mostly good (Selby got a reputation and better business), but it also meant Selby had to live up to that mythical reputation. Also, other writers seem to delight in comparing Selby to other experienced "white hunters" which they happen to admire.

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from Jim in Mo wrote 2 years 1 day ago

Dave, This is a really good deal. I'm ready to order but I first went to Alibris books since I have an account with them and they want $75 for the copies they have of the original book in '91, same book and cover.

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from O Garcia wrote 2 years 1 day ago

Joe Louis held the title for 12 years, but some of those years were "war years" in which most of the "good men" (as the British would refer to them) were probably stuck in some munitions factory undiscovered, or bringing relief to Britain in some anonymous, unheralded merchant ship, or wearing a uniform and fighting the enemy, never to make the big time to challenge big old Joe. Don't get me wrong, I love Joe Louis, and his humble demeanor is something we all surely miss, but a properly fed Jersey Joe Walcott probably would have whupped him. Legend has it that in preparation for the 1st Schmelling fight (back when Joe still wasn't champ), Joe Louis's camp hired a hungry, often out of work journeyman heavyweight called Jersey Joe Walcott, and the journeyman soon found that Joe Louis often dropped his left hand after throwing a jab, leaving him open. Jersey Joe knocked him down in practice. Embarassed, they didn't rehire him the following week. When the fight came, Schmelling knocked Joe Louis out, exploiting the same weakness.

All credit to Joe Louis, his performances in rematches is remarkable. He knocked out Schmelling in the rematch, in one round. And to make up for his bad performance against Jersey Joe when they first fought (the real prizefight, not the sparring fight), in which he won a dubious decision, he knocked Jersey Joe out too.

If only it stayed that way. An ungrateful government bled him dry with taxes and he had to go back to the ring, suffering the indignity of losing to Ezzard Charles and Rocky Marciano.

As for Ted Williams, I wonder how much better he might have been if he had hit with his dominant hand, the right hand.

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from Jim in Mo wrote 2 years 1 day ago

O Garcia,
Ruark made Selby? How dare you. Selby made Ruark! Bob was a dumb ass on hunting dangerous game and may have got himself killed in the wrong hands when he first got to Africa. Sure, Selby wasn't known till Ruark wrote about him but Harry was a self made man and didn't need the likes of Ruark, although I'm sure it helped in the clientele after Bob started writing about Harry and their adventures.

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from crm3006 wrote 2 years 1 day ago

Jim in Mo-
Having read nearly everything Bob Ruark wrote, (including magazine articles) I would tend to agree. I think Ruark would agree.They were a good combination, and a lot of Selby bleeds into Ruark's writing.

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from duckcreekdick wrote 2 years 1 day ago

O Garcia- I always find your comments reasoned and well written. Seems like lately you cannot even express an opinion here without getting negative feedback. I took the liberty of removing both negative comments coming from the peanut gallery. Cheers!

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from davidpetzal wrote 2 years 1 day ago

To O Garcia: While on the subject of Teddy Ballgame, let us note that he lost five of the best years of his career serving as a Marine aviator in World War II and Korea. And never complained about it.

Louis is generally ranked at the Number One heavyweight of all time, and is ranked as the number one puncher of all time by Ring Magazine--all weight divisions. Walcott might have beaten him in his prime, but the odds are not good.

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from Bernie wrote 2 years 19 hours ago

Dave, good points about Ted Williams. Also, I wonder what his 1941 batting average would have been if the sacrifice fly had been in play. I don't believe it was, so many of his fly balls that advanced runners were ruled as "oh-for" at-bats.

Too bad Louis and Marciano couldn't have met while both were in their primes. What a battle that would have been!

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from Jim in Mo wrote 2 years 15 hours ago

This is just my opinion but I do believe (the young) Cassius Clay would have whooped (the young) Joe Louis, but I shouldn't talk cause I never seen a young Joe Louis. And I heard he was very powerful. So was Sonny Liston but I guess he shouldn't count cause when Clay fought him he was owned by the mafia.

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from O Garcia wrote 2 years 15 hours ago

duckcreekdick,
thanks. I must have earned those for my shameless plugging of the LH CZ550 :)

More athletes/celebrities who fought for America:

LH pitcher Warren Spahn was in the Battle of the Bulge

I think Bob Feller's career was also interrupted by service in WW2

James Stewart, good ole Jimmy, flew bomber missions over Germany. Like most veterans, he never liked talking about it.

Of course, Christy Matthewson was gassed while fighting in WW1.

Now, for the really controversial: when Jack Dempsey was deemed to have "dodged" the draft in WW1, he was labeled a coward. When Muhammad Ali refused to be drafted for Vietnam, he eventually (it took many years) became a hero.

Let the flamethrowing ensue!

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from Jim in Mo wrote 2 years 14 hours ago

I forgot to mention Patsy Cline. What a sweet voiced honey she was. Poor gal didn't deserve the life she had. 'Crazy' by Willie Nelson hooked me.

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from jwallen wrote 1 year 52 weeks ago

Ruark was an author, Hemingway was a writer, Capstick was a storyteller and Selby is a hunter! I found a copy of "Something of Value" when I was twelve and read it without my parents knowing. Mother found it later and was mortified; she thought it was too "adult" for me. It may not have been totally accurate but of course it is fiction. He was still a great Author. Just before Christmas I reread "Horn of the Hunter" I just ordered Robert Ruark’s Africa, from Safari press and am anxiously awaiting its arrival.

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from Big O wrote 1 year 52 weeks ago

Got mine on order @ Books a Million as I write this !

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from Jere Smith wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Ordered it today from my favorite bookstore in Mission KS.

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from Gunslinger wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Ifyouhave not Robert's huning in Africaby all means by is books immeditely. I buy and read all can on he and Elmer Keith,two complete differet hunters and writers,but both just as interesting.I doubt they wold agre on the same guns as well.Too bad he drank himself to death and died broke.The hunting world lost legend for sure.

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from Gunslinger wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Forgive my typing and spelling.New Puter as s fast as lighting. Anway,buy smd read up on both,or go to the local Library, they should hsve bome books o Robert f t Elmer. I have abot 40 copies of letters he wrote to a good friend of mine,who visted his Ranch once or twice. His spelling snd wriingabot ike mine,have to read and re-read to understsnd himQite a guy in his day. Doubt we would be enjoing the 44 mag without is knowledge of guns and ammo. Iwanted a 44 mg,btsafter seeing the Ubert i 44-40 decided on it,glad I did. Hoe about thst shot at and klledhe Mule around 400yds out.

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from Gunslinger wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Forgive my typing and spelling.New Puter as s fast as lighting. Anway,buy smd read up on both,or go to the local Library, they should hsve bome books o Robert f t Elmer. I have abot 40 copies of letters he wrote to a good friend of mine,who visted his Ranch once or twice. His spelling snd wriingabot ike mine,have to read and re-read to understsnd himQite a guy in his day. Doubt we would be enjoing the 44 mag without is knowledge of guns and ammo. Iwanted a 44 mg,btsafter seeing the Ubert i 44-40 decided on it,glad I did. Hoe about thst shot at and klledhe Mule around 400yds out.

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from matt28 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

That covers reminds me of this tid-bit from the recent news:

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1961918,00.html?xid=rss-t...

So what do you think, Dave? Will we be able to hunt Aurochs in this lifetime?

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from wwwilson375 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

We have several of his other books, but not this one. I'll be ordering it for out library. We need all the hunting and shooting books we can get there.

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from Jere Smith wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Matt28, It will take longer than MY lifetime for sure ( I am (will be) 69 in August :(

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from duke_ford wrote 1 year 49 weeks ago

Yes, the knock on Capstick is that he retold or fabricated many of his African stories. O'Connor implies as much in "The Last Book" (as does Jim Rikhoff). You'd be surprised how many of those old-timers made stuff up to sell a few magazine articles.

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from huntenthusiest wrote 1 year 49 weeks ago

I just finished my '91 copy of this book and enjoyed it so much that I picked up, "Use enough gun","The Honey Badger" and "Uhuru". I'm hooked.

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from auburn_hunter wrote 2 years 3 days ago

Tom-Tom -
Though it is not about hunting, I think everyone's library (both personal and public) should include a copy of Lone Survivor by Marcus Luttrell. Every warm-blooded American should read and re-read it to better appreciate what we have and what our Special Forces put on the line for our freedoms and rights each and every day.

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from tom warner wrote 2 years 3 days ago

I too am a bit confused regarding Capstick's writings. I have also heard the rumors and wondered. Years ago, when Capstick was first writing, I read an article by him in one of the outdoor mags in which he talked about his adventures with various snakes in Africa. I happen to know quite a bit about snakes, and his accounts were a total load of BS! Ever since that time, as he became a very successful writer, I was suspicious regarding truthfulness of his stories. He certainly was a very good writer! Do any of you have any comments on this? Yes, I also grew up reading Ruark and admired his stuff.

Tom

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from tom warner wrote 2 years 3 days ago

I too am a bit confused regarding Capstick's writings. I have also heard the rumors and wondered. Years ago, when Capstick was first writing, I read an article by him in one of the outdoor mags in which he talked about his adventures with various snakes in Africa. I happen to know quite a bit about snakes, and his accounts were a total load of BS! Ever since that time, as he became a very successful writer, I was suspicious regarding truthfulness of his stories. He certainly was a very good writer! Do any of you have any comments on this? Yes, I also grew up reading Ruark and admired his stuff.

Tom

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from davidpetzal wrote 2 years 1 day ago

To O Garcia: While on the subject of Teddy Ballgame, let us note that he lost five of the best years of his career serving as a Marine aviator in World War II and Korea. And never complained about it.

Louis is generally ranked at the Number One heavyweight of all time, and is ranked as the number one puncher of all time by Ring Magazine--all weight divisions. Walcott might have beaten him in his prime, but the odds are not good.

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from buckhunter wrote 2 years 3 days ago

So this is how it starts. I read Ruark last month, "The Old Man and the Boy." This month I'm reading Capstick, "Warrior." In between I'm on the internet looking for affordable hunts in Africa. I have no doubt I will track down "Robert Ruarks Africa" and eagerly read each page. It's like a whole new world has opened up to me. For the first time in my life I see myself going on an African Safari. Just one more kid to get through college...

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 2 years 3 days ago

Quick, for 10 extra Field and Stream Blog + points, who wrote Patsy Cline's hit 'Crazy' (1961)?

No fair cheating.

I read Robert Ruark's stuff as a kid and was always facinated by his storytelling. Maybe I need to buy that book!

Thanks, David

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 2 years 3 days ago

Happy Myles

You don't need to nitpick primers, powder, and a tenth of an inch bullet drop when facing and angry Daggaboy. I would express my opinions on the writers mentioned, but if I can't speak ill of Dead Ted anymore, I'll let them R.I.P. as well.

Firearms expert or not, you best have the right stuff when it comes right down to "nut cuttin' time", as my sage Oklahoma friend puts it.

Best regards,
WMH

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from Ralph the Rifleman wrote 2 years 3 days ago

Only you, Dave, could pen an article of Africa with the opening line about a country singer...and baseball...nicely done!
Yea, Ruark was some kinda guy; Love his writings.

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from crm3006 wrote 2 years 3 days ago

More Robert Ruark. Great! Having read and re-read The Old Man and the Boy, The Old Man's Boy Grows Older, Uhuru, Something of Value, The Honey Badger, Poor No More, Ruark on Guns and Hunting, and Use Enough Gun, and possibly some more, I'm sure there will be some old ground covered, but any Ruark is good reading.

The only thing worse than a stupid post by yo yo is a double stupid post by yo yo.

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from huntenthusiest wrote 2 years 3 days ago

I just purchased a 1991 edition on Ebay for $30 and look forward to reading it. Thanks for the suggestion.

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from huntenthusiest wrote 2 years 3 days ago

I just purchased a 1991 edition on Ebay for $30 and look forward to reading it. Thanks for the suggestion.

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from ericb622 wrote 2 years 2 days ago

I have read all of Ruark's books, both of hunting and socio-political unrest in colonial east africa along with africanization. Something of Value and Uhuru should be mandatory reading for all history students, everyone for that matter, considering our current president is a product of Africanization and the students it sent here in the early 60's from Kenya.

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from crm3006 wrote 2 years 1 day ago

Jim in Mo-
Having read nearly everything Bob Ruark wrote, (including magazine articles) I would tend to agree. I think Ruark would agree.They were a good combination, and a lot of Selby bleeds into Ruark's writing.

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from hengst wrote 2 years 3 days ago

Outstanding..Thanks for the report this is a definate must own.. since I have only been able to read a few or Ruark's writings..BTW thanks for the link..loads of other great books I want to read

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from Happy Myles wrote 2 years 3 days ago

I wholeheartedly agree. Glad you mentioned McIntosh's Introduction, it should be read and reread, for an Intro that is quite a compliment. Over the years I have given away many copies if this book when I could find them, so pleased to here Safari Press is reprinting it

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from wgp wrote 2 years 3 days ago

I have Horn of the Hunter and Something of Value on my shelf. Ruark's quotes from Harry Shelby about African hunting are memorable, as is the quote in the preface to Something of Value: "If a man does away with his traditional way of living and throws away his good customs, he had better first make certain that he has something of value to replace them". Applies to lots of situations and I keep it on a sign on my shelf.

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from IowaGuy wrote 2 years 3 days ago

Thanks for the book suggestion, look forward to getting a copy!

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from Happy Myles wrote 2 years 3 days ago

As Dave mentioned, Ruark wrote for many magazines and was a newspaper columnist. I always felt O'Connor and Keith looked down their noses at him because he was not a firearm expert. By the time Ruark died, he had spent more time hunting Africa than either of the "experts".
Reading his works, helped keep my African goals in mind which secondarily improved by income.
Pardon the typos in my earlier post, "if" for of, and "here" should have been hear

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from stumpthumper wrote 2 years 3 days ago

Who wrote Crazy? That's an easy one. The great Willie Nelson.

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from Amflyer wrote 2 years 3 days ago

Stump, your record is stuck....stuck...stuck...stuck...

The way I heard it, Patsy Cline was no fan of Willie. I like his version of the song better anyway.

Ok, here's an aside: Who wrote the 70's cheese-O-rama song "Convoy?"

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from Sneaky wrote 2 years 3 days ago

As if my list of books to read wasn't already long enough thanks to Petzal.

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from Mike Diehl wrote 2 years 3 days ago

"Convoy" was performed and maybe written by "C.W. McCall" but I remember hearing some time ago that "C.W. McCall" was some other guy's pen name.

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from straightshooter wrote 2 years 3 days ago

It looks like another Ruark book is about to join the three that are already on the bookshelf. He was a wonderfully talented writer and his "The Old Man and the Boy" is a classic that I go back to often.

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from .88Mag wrote 2 years 3 days ago

Love Ruarks writing. "The Old Man and the Boy" was my first, that one gets loaned to anyone and everyone who shows half a gleam of interest in the outdoors. Everyone should read it. My first edition "Use Enough Gun" stays safely on my shelf though. Even if it is another "must read", I can't let it out of the house, sorry.

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from Beekeeper wrote 2 years 3 days ago

I look forward to reading this collection of stories. There are those that say Capstick's works are a fabrication. Merely the retelling of stories he heard while "field testing" hunts for Winchester. I do get that feeling reading some of Capstick's stuff. That feeling never rises when I read Ruark's words.

Cheers! Dave

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from Jere Smith wrote 2 years 3 days ago

I have all of Ruarks books EXCEPT "The Old Mans Boy Grows Older" and Grenadine Spawn ( Which has nothing to do with Africa or Hunting and This one which I have on order.

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from idduckhntr wrote 2 years 3 days ago

Allways carry a big enough gun.

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from Jim in Mo wrote 2 years 3 days ago

Dave,
I ordered and am reading Terry Wielands new Dangerous Game Rifles II. I've got most of Ruark's books but never had or read his mag articles, if that is what this book has I'd be glad to order it to.

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from country road wrote 2 years 3 days ago

Another of Ruark's books I must get and read. I discovered his writing in the early sixties and was devastated when he drank himself to death a short time later and I realized there wouldn't be any more by him. Seems I was wrong, since I didn't know about this collection. Thanks, Dave.

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from Bellringer wrote 2 years 3 days ago

I have read many of Peter Hatahway Capstick's books, I am confused, are they factual or merely novels.

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from rudyglove27 wrote 2 years 3 days ago

Mr. Petzal,
Thank you for posting this Book, I placed an order yesterday and hopefully I get it soon!!!

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from Tom-Tom wrote 2 years 3 days ago

How about a look at the DEP Library sometime. What do you read, collect and/or recommend? I am considering a gift of books to our local library that deal with hunting and the outdoors and the opinions of youself and fellow bloggers would ne welcome.

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from Tom-Tom wrote 2 years 3 days ago

auburn-hunter --

Thank you, an excellent selection. I am also going to add the excellent books by E.B. "Sledgehammer" Sledge. A gift of few thousand dollars could end up anywhere but a gift of books that share a passion is more appealing.

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from PbHead wrote 2 years 3 days ago

Once again Dave, thanks for the tip. Please do as Tom-Tom asked and give us that reading list from Professor Petzel.

It took me three years to find an affordable copy of Ruark's "I Didn't Know It Was Loaded". It was worth the wait.

Regarding Ruark and Capstick: I think Ruark was an author, Capstick a writer. Micky Spillane explained the difference but I can't remember the details.

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from wingshooter54 wrote 2 years 3 days ago

Horn of the Hunter, The Old Man and the Boy, & The Old Man's Boy Grows Older revealed some of the best writing I have ever had the pleasure of reading. As a pre-teen, I knew what being on a safari was like; Ruark told me. His two novels about growing up with his grandfather as an outdoor mentor hit home with me. I grew up shooting doves, quail, and fishing with my father and his cronies (some of their antics were reminiscent of The Lower Forty stories)and most all the time was the only kid in the group. I wouldn't trade anything for those memories, nor my dog-eared worn out original paperback copies of Ruark's books. Having read all of Capstick's works, there is no comparison. Peter was a storyteller, and a damn good one, but Ruark was a WRITER.

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from edalweber wrote 2 years 2 days ago

Robert Ruark was one of the best outdoor writers that ever lived, and his book "Horn of the Hunter" is a classic of African hunting.I wish I could see the movie he made about one of his safaris. However, when he ventured into fiction, he wasn't as good, at least about Africa. It is a striking contrast with his nonfiction works. In "Horn of the Hunter" he makes fun of all the phoney cliches in safari novels, and then uses every one when HE wrote novels about Africa.I understand that "Something of Value" was regarded in Kenya as ridiculous, and laughed at.Pity that he didn't write more nonfiction books about Africa, but unfortunately sappy novels sell better,to people who don't know how unrealistic that they are.

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from focusfront wrote 2 years 2 days ago

Yesterday the power went out (bad storm) while I was responding to this blog, so all that got sent was "Tha", yet I still got a positive response from somebody! Nice to be on a blog with a friendly bunch of guys for a change.

I'll keep my eyes open for this book. I haven't read anything by Ruark except part of "Use Enough Gun," but that was pretty good writing.

Never having had the experience (the biggest thing I've ever busted a cap on is whitetail deer), I've always wondered what you actually aim for when you are being charged by a lion, grizzly bear, buffalo, etc. If you are Elmer Keith, you carefully break the shoulder. I'm no Elmer Keith, and I've read that a lion charges at about 40 miles per hour, and it isn't that big a target from the front. Do you just aim for the nose? Put the front sight/ crosshairs on the thickest part of the blur coming at you and just keep shooting? Or is it as easy as it seems to be in print?

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from Bernie wrote 2 years 2 days ago

Ruark was indeed without peer as a writer. I may be an ignoramus, but I prefer his writing to Hemingway's. I own five or six of his books, including "Robert Ruark's Africa" from 1995 and published by Countrysport Press. Years ago I checked out all his other books from the library and read them. It is a shame that he drank himself to death. I think he was 48 at the time of his death, and I believe he died in 1965--not '66. He was delightfully politically incorrect. In his book, "The Honey Badger" he wrote that this animal lived in Africa and that it attacked by going straight for the genitals..."much like the American female". Can you imagine writing something like that today?

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from Jim in Mo wrote 2 years 1 day ago

Dave, This is a really good deal. I'm ready to order but I first went to Alibris books since I have an account with them and they want $75 for the copies they have of the original book in '91, same book and cover.

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from O Garcia wrote 2 years 1 day ago

Joe Louis held the title for 12 years, but some of those years were "war years" in which most of the "good men" (as the British would refer to them) were probably stuck in some munitions factory undiscovered, or bringing relief to Britain in some anonymous, unheralded merchant ship, or wearing a uniform and fighting the enemy, never to make the big time to challenge big old Joe. Don't get me wrong, I love Joe Louis, and his humble demeanor is something we all surely miss, but a properly fed Jersey Joe Walcott probably would have whupped him. Legend has it that in preparation for the 1st Schmelling fight (back when Joe still wasn't champ), Joe Louis's camp hired a hungry, often out of work journeyman heavyweight called Jersey Joe Walcott, and the journeyman soon found that Joe Louis often dropped his left hand after throwing a jab, leaving him open. Jersey Joe knocked him down in practice. Embarassed, they didn't rehire him the following week. When the fight came, Schmelling knocked Joe Louis out, exploiting the same weakness.

All credit to Joe Louis, his performances in rematches is remarkable. He knocked out Schmelling in the rematch, in one round. And to make up for his bad performance against Jersey Joe when they first fought (the real prizefight, not the sparring fight), in which he won a dubious decision, he knocked Jersey Joe out too.

If only it stayed that way. An ungrateful government bled him dry with taxes and he had to go back to the ring, suffering the indignity of losing to Ezzard Charles and Rocky Marciano.

As for Ted Williams, I wonder how much better he might have been if he had hit with his dominant hand, the right hand.

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from Jim in Mo wrote 2 years 1 day ago

O Garcia,
Ruark made Selby? How dare you. Selby made Ruark! Bob was a dumb ass on hunting dangerous game and may have got himself killed in the wrong hands when he first got to Africa. Sure, Selby wasn't known till Ruark wrote about him but Harry was a self made man and didn't need the likes of Ruark, although I'm sure it helped in the clientele after Bob started writing about Harry and their adventures.

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from duckcreekdick wrote 2 years 1 day ago

O Garcia- I always find your comments reasoned and well written. Seems like lately you cannot even express an opinion here without getting negative feedback. I took the liberty of removing both negative comments coming from the peanut gallery. Cheers!

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from Bernie wrote 2 years 19 hours ago

Dave, good points about Ted Williams. Also, I wonder what his 1941 batting average would have been if the sacrifice fly had been in play. I don't believe it was, so many of his fly balls that advanced runners were ruled as "oh-for" at-bats.

Too bad Louis and Marciano couldn't have met while both were in their primes. What a battle that would have been!

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from Bernie wrote 2 years 19 hours ago

Dave, good points about Ted Williams. Also, I wonder what his 1941 batting average would have been if the sacrifice fly had been in play. I don't believe it was, so many of his fly balls that advanced runners were ruled as "oh-for" at-bats.

Too bad Louis and Marciano couldn't have met while both were in their primes. What a battle that would have been!

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from O Garcia wrote 2 years 15 hours ago

duckcreekdick,
thanks. I must have earned those for my shameless plugging of the LH CZ550 :)

More athletes/celebrities who fought for America:

LH pitcher Warren Spahn was in the Battle of the Bulge

I think Bob Feller's career was also interrupted by service in WW2

James Stewart, good ole Jimmy, flew bomber missions over Germany. Like most veterans, he never liked talking about it.

Of course, Christy Matthewson was gassed while fighting in WW1.

Now, for the really controversial: when Jack Dempsey was deemed to have "dodged" the draft in WW1, he was labeled a coward. When Muhammad Ali refused to be drafted for Vietnam, he eventually (it took many years) became a hero.

Let the flamethrowing ensue!

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from Jim in Mo wrote 2 years 14 hours ago

I forgot to mention Patsy Cline. What a sweet voiced honey she was. Poor gal didn't deserve the life she had. 'Crazy' by Willie Nelson hooked me.

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from Jim in Mo wrote 2 years 14 hours ago

I forgot to mention Patsy Cline. What a sweet voiced honey she was. Poor gal didn't deserve the life she had. 'Crazy' by Willie Nelson hooked me.

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from jwallen wrote 1 year 52 weeks ago

Ruark was an author, Hemingway was a writer, Capstick was a storyteller and Selby is a hunter! I found a copy of "Something of Value" when I was twelve and read it without my parents knowing. Mother found it later and was mortified; she thought it was too "adult" for me. It may not have been totally accurate but of course it is fiction. He was still a great Author. Just before Christmas I reread "Horn of the Hunter" I just ordered Robert Ruark’s Africa, from Safari press and am anxiously awaiting its arrival.

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from focusfront wrote 2 years 3 days ago

Tha

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from yohan wrote 2 years 3 days ago

Hmmmm ?? well ,...Mr Petzal
Aside from the vast polical chasm that seperates us

The truth is, aside from that venue.
I actually happpen to think you do a pretty dam good job "On Africa". Have read a few articles over the years.
Maybe not as frilly as those before you.
And thankfully not as uppity as some of your contemporaries. Or should I say recent contemporaries.
Even the special brand of Petzal sarcasm if taken the way I percieve it.
Beats the feathers off some pissy uppity pain in the stock and checkering faries butt .

I would even go so far as to suggest you yourslef get on that train

Unexpected as this smay be ,. a rule I have is this.
(It is what it is )
Thusly in my huumble opinion you "is" a good writer ,. so if you haven't,.. consider writing a book on Africa,
If you already have tell me which one please.

Best Regards ( except for the political stuff)

Yohan

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from yohan wrote 2 years 3 days ago

Hmmmm ?? well ,...Mr Petzal
Aside from the vast polical chasm that seperates us

The truth is, aside from that venue.
I actually happpen to think you do a pretty dam good job "On Africa". Have read a few articles over the years.
Maybe not as frilly as those before you.
And thankfully not as uppity as some of your contemporaries. Or should I say recent contemporaries.
Even the special brand of Petzal sarcasm if taken the way I percieve it.
Beats the feathers off some pissy uppity pain in the stock and checkering faries butt .

I would even go so far as to suggest you yourslef get on that train

Unexpected as this smay be ,. a rule I have is this.
(It is what it is )
Thusly in my huumble opinion you "is" a good writer ,. so if you haven't,.. consider writing a book on Africa,
If you already have tell me which one please.

Best Regards ( except for the political stuff)

Yohan

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from buckhunter wrote 2 years 3 days ago

Willie

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from Amflyer wrote 2 years 2 days ago

Convoy was written by a guy named Louis F. Davis, also known as "Chip" Davis. He's the guy from Mannheim Steamroller that is best known for the Christmas albums.

Paul Harvey is rolling over in his grave.

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from Mock1 wrote 2 years 2 days ago

Thanks Dave. i don't think i've read any Rourke, but when I was a kid, I loved reading capstick. I ordered the book, to be sent to my pizza store so the wife doesn't find out I spent another 35 bucks! Anyways, i'm looking forward to the read. I just wish it didn't take 12 to 15 days to get here. That always ticks me off as it didn't take that long to charge my cc :)

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from O Garcia wrote 2 years 1 day ago

I have Horn of The Hunter. But I only saw [the movie] of Something of Value. I do have the March 1981 anniversary issue of Field & Stream where Ruark's story on buffalo hunting was included. (Other stories in that issue: Warren Page going after bongo, Jack O'connor's first sheep, Cornelius Ryan going after Scottish stag.)

Which reminds me, what are the chances that an outdoor magazine like F&S would count among its writers two journalists/reporters in R. Ruark and C. Ryan?

Obviously Ruark "made" Harry Selby, which was mostly good (Selby got a reputation and better business), but it also meant Selby had to live up to that mythical reputation. Also, other writers seem to delight in comparing Selby to other experienced "white hunters" which they happen to admire.

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from Jim in Mo wrote 2 years 15 hours ago

This is just my opinion but I do believe (the young) Cassius Clay would have whooped (the young) Joe Louis, but I shouldn't talk cause I never seen a young Joe Louis. And I heard he was very powerful. So was Sonny Liston but I guess he shouldn't count cause when Clay fought him he was owned by the mafia.

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from Big O wrote 1 year 52 weeks ago

Got mine on order @ Books a Million as I write this !

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from Gunslinger wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Ifyouhave not Robert's huning in Africaby all means by is books immeditely. I buy and read all can on he and Elmer Keith,two complete differet hunters and writers,but both just as interesting.I doubt they wold agre on the same guns as well.Too bad he drank himself to death and died broke.The hunting world lost legend for sure.

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from Gunslinger wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Forgive my typing and spelling.New Puter as s fast as lighting. Anway,buy smd read up on both,or go to the local Library, they should hsve bome books o Robert f t Elmer. I have abot 40 copies of letters he wrote to a good friend of mine,who visted his Ranch once or twice. His spelling snd wriingabot ike mine,have to read and re-read to understsnd himQite a guy in his day. Doubt we would be enjoing the 44 mag without is knowledge of guns and ammo. Iwanted a 44 mg,btsafter seeing the Ubert i 44-40 decided on it,glad I did. Hoe about thst shot at and klledhe Mule around 400yds out.

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from Gunslinger wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Forgive my typing and spelling.New Puter as s fast as lighting. Anway,buy smd read up on both,or go to the local Library, they should hsve bome books o Robert f t Elmer. I have abot 40 copies of letters he wrote to a good friend of mine,who visted his Ranch once or twice. His spelling snd wriingabot ike mine,have to read and re-read to understsnd himQite a guy in his day. Doubt we would be enjoing the 44 mag without is knowledge of guns and ammo. Iwanted a 44 mg,btsafter seeing the Ubert i 44-40 decided on it,glad I did. Hoe about thst shot at and klledhe Mule around 400yds out.

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from matt28 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

That covers reminds me of this tid-bit from the recent news:

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1961918,00.html?xid=rss-t...

So what do you think, Dave? Will we be able to hunt Aurochs in this lifetime?

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from wwwilson375 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

We have several of his other books, but not this one. I'll be ordering it for out library. We need all the hunting and shooting books we can get there.

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from duke_ford wrote 1 year 49 weeks ago

Yes, the knock on Capstick is that he retold or fabricated many of his African stories. O'Connor implies as much in "The Last Book" (as does Jim Rikhoff). You'd be surprised how many of those old-timers made stuff up to sell a few magazine articles.

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from yohan wrote 2 years 3 days ago

Ahhh crap sorry for double post
Dont like you THAT much ya know

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from stumpthumper wrote 2 years 3 days ago

Who wrote Crazy? That's an easy one. The great Willie Nelson.

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from stumpthumper wrote 2 years 3 days ago

Who wrote Crazy? That's an easy one. The great Willie Nelson.

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from Jere Smith wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Ordered it today from my favorite bookstore in Mission KS.

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from Jere Smith wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Matt28, It will take longer than MY lifetime for sure ( I am (will be) 69 in August :(

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from huntenthusiest wrote 1 year 49 weeks ago

I just finished my '91 copy of this book and enjoyed it so much that I picked up, "Use enough gun","The Honey Badger" and "Uhuru". I'm hooked.

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from yohan wrote 2 years 3 days ago

Hee hee ,..
Told ya short croch we got you pegged as a drunk and a phony,.usually drunks are phonys and broke to boot.
So as I said,.. you aint worth the time,. until somebody ( probably a trucker) or some he knows feeds us the right info.
Then ??? good idea you have a large supply of depends,. the senior diaper. Y Y

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