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March 19, 2010

Romano: How Is Your Spey Cast?

By Tim Romano

Recently I've taking a liking to spey casting and have been playing around with a couple of different rod and line and set-ups. I'll readily admit I'm a complete novice and have a ton to learn, but am eager and practicing quite a bit.

If you've never heard of spey casting, put simply it's usually done with a two handed rod and consists of a type of roll cast with some line adjusting before the cast. Of course, spey casts can be made with single-handed rods, too. This video from RA Beattie features some gorgeous casting and explanation of how and why people fish this way from Todd Scharf of Upstream Adventures.

Unfortunately, I'm still at a point where I get pretty confused when spey casting. Most of the time I end up with a pile of line wrapped around my legs.

It's not stopping me, though. I have ulterior motives other than the traditional swinging of flies for steelhead or salmon. Seeing as I'm from Colorado and we have no anadromous fish to feed I want learn the technique for swinging streamers from bank to bank covering as much water as I can. It's also quite helpful with small rods on tiny creeks with overgrown vegetation. I'm curious if anybody out there swings a spey rod or utilizes spey techniques on their own water for fish other than salmon and steelhead and why.

TR

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from MLH wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

Simon Gawesworth gave a short seminar on spey casting at the Midwest Fly Fishing Expo last weekend (March 13). He covered some points that I never would have picked up on my own. I have to pick up his CD ... and a two-handed setup one day.

He covered skagit and one hand spey, too - I didn't realize that a couple of single hand techniques I use were considered spey casting. I think that hour of watching and listening to him talk about casting dynamics will help me cast better.

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from hi_tail wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

I fish a switch rod out here in western MT and haven't picked up my single hander since. Get proficient with them and you'll wonder why you fished in the dark ages for so long. Line control, cast efficiency, distance, shock absorption and less fatigue, what more do you want? [besides a lower MSRP and an instruction manual]. I'm not gunna lie, I had to teach myself the hard way. I've found that the good 'ol boys fishing two-handed rods don't like to give up their secrets.

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from Alex Pernice th... wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

I actually spey cast alot. I love it, and have no problem with it. If I ever run into you Tim, I could help you out.
I still need to go buy a new line (When I have 200 bucks to drop)

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from Mactrager wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

That's great, learned spey casting from Todd a few years ago. I have used the technique in Alaska fishing egg patterns and whenever I don't have the room for a full backcast.

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from buckhunter wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

There were a lot of spey and switch rods at the fly show as MLH mentioned. I can see why they are so popular. I don't fish big water so the spey rod is not on my wish list. I did try out a switch rod in the casting pond. It was ok but not my cup of tea. I settled on a 10 foot 6 weight. The perfect rod for my kayak, canoe and belly boat.

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from Sayfu wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

I have a switch rod, and don't cast it very well...I cast single handed rods very well, and right now prefer them..I can be more accurate with a dry fly, and don't see much use for spey rods when using a dry fly, and I dry fly fish a lot. Putting the fly where you saw a rise is not a plus for a spey rod. I bought it to swing soft hackles, and will use it for that. It takes lots, and lots of practice. I've floated Western steelhead rivers a 1,000 times, and most of the time I see a spey caster they are novices floging the water...a small percentage of anglers take the time to get good at it. Playing a fish? That also is a new experience and very awkward for most. Thee are about 4 different casts you need to learn well, and the ones used depend on what side of the river you are fishing on. If you have to think about what side of the river you are fishing on you probably will be one that flogs the water

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from deneki wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

WARNING: Needtospeycastitis is a very dangerous disease. If you put in a little time and get to the 'proficient' level, be on the lookout for the telltale symptoms, which include the sudden need to buy a whole bunch more rods, lines and reels, the tendency to stand around and talk about gear with other infected individuals, the desire to refer to all mass measurements using grain weight, and the inability to sleep due to persistent thoughts about hitting the perfect cast.

Translation: Spey casting takes a little bit of work to get comfortable, but man it's a heck of a lot of fun.

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from MCrawdad wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

I spent a week at deneki's place in western Alaska last summer - and while I'm a terrible spey caster, I did catch fish. And it's deadly effective, although there are some things you'll have to unlearn from your single-handed casting. I think it'll be as effective here in the east on smallies in big rivers and on stripers in the rivers.

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from Sayfu wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

A thought to remember....the lengthy spey rod is not an advantage in landing fish...the advantage goes to the fish the longer the rod is. It is like a teeter-totter. The fish can hold down the tip, and the leverage goes to the fish. The big tuna boats that had all the commercial fisherman along the side of the big boats throwing little more than a bare hook in the water, and yarding big tuna up over onto the deck....very short rods to gain the leverage. Landing fish is very awkward with one of those long rods. I asked a good spey roddin steelheader what the technique was for landing a steelhead, and he said to drag it on the beach, drop your rod, and RUN! For most trout fishing the drill is to cast short, be accurate, and good line control....I think it is a little hype for trout fishing use.

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from jamesti wrote 1 year 42 weeks ago

i have enough trouble with the traditional rods. right now spey casting is out of my league.

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from alasiri6 wrote 1 year 23 weeks ago

I have a switch rod, and don't cast it very well...I cast single handed rods very well, and right now prefer them..I can be more accurate with a dry fly, and don't see much use for spey rods when using a dry fly, and I dry fly fish a lot. منتديات رمزيات Putting the fly where you saw a rise is not a plus for a spey rod. هيدرات للماسنجر صور I bought it to swing soft hackles, and will use it for that. تسريحات شعر
ميك اب - مكياج It takes lots, and lots of practice. I've floated Western steelhead rivers a 1,000 times, and most of the time I see a spey caster they are novices floging the water...a small percentage of anglers take the time to get good at it. Playing a fish? That also is a new experience and very awkward for most. Thee are about 4 different casts you need to learn well, and the ones used depend on what side of the river you are fishing on. If you have to think about what side of the river you are fishing on you probably will be one that flogs the water

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from hi_tail wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

I fish a switch rod out here in western MT and haven't picked up my single hander since. Get proficient with them and you'll wonder why you fished in the dark ages for so long. Line control, cast efficiency, distance, shock absorption and less fatigue, what more do you want? [besides a lower MSRP and an instruction manual]. I'm not gunna lie, I had to teach myself the hard way. I've found that the good 'ol boys fishing two-handed rods don't like to give up their secrets.

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from deneki wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

WARNING: Needtospeycastitis is a very dangerous disease. If you put in a little time and get to the 'proficient' level, be on the lookout for the telltale symptoms, which include the sudden need to buy a whole bunch more rods, lines and reels, the tendency to stand around and talk about gear with other infected individuals, the desire to refer to all mass measurements using grain weight, and the inability to sleep due to persistent thoughts about hitting the perfect cast.

Translation: Spey casting takes a little bit of work to get comfortable, but man it's a heck of a lot of fun.

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from MLH wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

Simon Gawesworth gave a short seminar on spey casting at the Midwest Fly Fishing Expo last weekend (March 13). He covered some points that I never would have picked up on my own. I have to pick up his CD ... and a two-handed setup one day.

He covered skagit and one hand spey, too - I didn't realize that a couple of single hand techniques I use were considered spey casting. I think that hour of watching and listening to him talk about casting dynamics will help me cast better.

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from Alex Pernice th... wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

I actually spey cast alot. I love it, and have no problem with it. If I ever run into you Tim, I could help you out.
I still need to go buy a new line (When I have 200 bucks to drop)

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from Mactrager wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

That's great, learned spey casting from Todd a few years ago. I have used the technique in Alaska fishing egg patterns and whenever I don't have the room for a full backcast.

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from buckhunter wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

There were a lot of spey and switch rods at the fly show as MLH mentioned. I can see why they are so popular. I don't fish big water so the spey rod is not on my wish list. I did try out a switch rod in the casting pond. It was ok but not my cup of tea. I settled on a 10 foot 6 weight. The perfect rod for my kayak, canoe and belly boat.

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from Sayfu wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

I have a switch rod, and don't cast it very well...I cast single handed rods very well, and right now prefer them..I can be more accurate with a dry fly, and don't see much use for spey rods when using a dry fly, and I dry fly fish a lot. Putting the fly where you saw a rise is not a plus for a spey rod. I bought it to swing soft hackles, and will use it for that. It takes lots, and lots of practice. I've floated Western steelhead rivers a 1,000 times, and most of the time I see a spey caster they are novices floging the water...a small percentage of anglers take the time to get good at it. Playing a fish? That also is a new experience and very awkward for most. Thee are about 4 different casts you need to learn well, and the ones used depend on what side of the river you are fishing on. If you have to think about what side of the river you are fishing on you probably will be one that flogs the water

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from MCrawdad wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

I spent a week at deneki's place in western Alaska last summer - and while I'm a terrible spey caster, I did catch fish. And it's deadly effective, although there are some things you'll have to unlearn from your single-handed casting. I think it'll be as effective here in the east on smallies in big rivers and on stripers in the rivers.

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from Sayfu wrote 2 years 9 weeks ago

A thought to remember....the lengthy spey rod is not an advantage in landing fish...the advantage goes to the fish the longer the rod is. It is like a teeter-totter. The fish can hold down the tip, and the leverage goes to the fish. The big tuna boats that had all the commercial fisherman along the side of the big boats throwing little more than a bare hook in the water, and yarding big tuna up over onto the deck....very short rods to gain the leverage. Landing fish is very awkward with one of those long rods. I asked a good spey roddin steelheader what the technique was for landing a steelhead, and he said to drag it on the beach, drop your rod, and RUN! For most trout fishing the drill is to cast short, be accurate, and good line control....I think it is a little hype for trout fishing use.

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from jamesti wrote 1 year 42 weeks ago

i have enough trouble with the traditional rods. right now spey casting is out of my league.

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from alasiri6 wrote 1 year 23 weeks ago

I have a switch rod, and don't cast it very well...I cast single handed rods very well, and right now prefer them..I can be more accurate with a dry fly, and don't see much use for spey rods when using a dry fly, and I dry fly fish a lot. منتديات رمزيات Putting the fly where you saw a rise is not a plus for a spey rod. هيدرات للماسنجر صور I bought it to swing soft hackles, and will use it for that. تسريحات شعر
ميك اب - مكياج It takes lots, and lots of practice. I've floated Western steelhead rivers a 1,000 times, and most of the time I see a spey caster they are novices floging the water...a small percentage of anglers take the time to get good at it. Playing a fish? That also is a new experience and very awkward for most. Thee are about 4 different casts you need to learn well, and the ones used depend on what side of the river you are fishing on. If you have to think about what side of the river you are fishing on you probably will be one that flogs the water

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