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March 25, 2009

Wild Salmon: Doomed to Extinction?

By Tim Romano

After firing up the grill and dining on a little salmon with pineapple, mango, and jalapeno relish last night the conversation turned to just that - salmon. My friend asked why farmed raised salmon was bad. I tried to explain, and after doing so poorly we decided to look it up. Like all conversations these days we found ourselves staring at the computer screen, googling as many different phrases as possible to return an acceptable answer. The video below is a bit long, and a little preachy but does a fantastic job of explaining the problem of farmed raised salmon. I thought it would be a wee bit of education for those who didn't know...

While I wish I could say I only purchase wild fish, it's just not a reality for my budget. I try to when possible, but realize that there must be another answer. Just letting your grocery story or restaurant know that you don't want farmed fish probably isn't going to solve the problem. As anglers does anybody give a rats ass about this problem or are we resigned to the fact that our way of life will ultimately kill off wild fish leaving the numbers of "salmon" inflated by farms as legit? Is a salmon raised in a pen the same as a salmon that's spent it's life at sea?

TR

 

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from YooperJack wrote 3 years 9 weeks ago

TR
It's only too long if it's boring. Excellent watch! I would like to see the other side, but it appears that the evidence is pretty convincing. It's not just a BC problem. It's an international problem. While I've been accused of relying too much on market forces before, I believe that this could be the quickest way to effect change. These species truly are the "linchpin" that holds that ecosystem together. Also, I would like to see regulation to ensure some type of closed loop aquifer, but that will involve laws in at least two countries plus international treaties.

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from MaxPower wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

Good thoughts TR. But more importantly, how do I get a copy of your pineapple, mango and jalapeno relish recipe for my wild Alaskan Salmon??

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from timromano wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

Mango, Pineapple, Onion, Cilantro, Jalapeno, Salt, Black Pepper, Lime juice, Lemon. Dice it up (fairly small) in proportions that fit your taste buds. Salt to taste and, voila. Keeps for about a week.

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from buckhunter wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

Good watch TR. I'm not an expert on these things but waht if they just moved their farms about 50 miles off shore?
Either way, my fear is that the right people do not realize there is something very special about wild salmon.

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from 2Poppa wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

"Is the Salmon wild or farmed?"
"I will no longer buy farmed Salmon, until the industry has gone to closed containment, and is no longer impacting ecosystems like the one in British Columbia. We can play a vital role in the Salmon industry and everything that depends on it!"
For more information: www.farmedsalmonexposed.org

Wow!
You are correct YooperJack, it is an international problem, actually global!

http://www.mangroveactionproject.org/news/current_headlines/canadians-ac...

I hope the link works!

TR,thanks for enlightening most of the population. I've always wanted to go to BC and fish for one of the finest tasting fish "caught"!

It seems that a delegation from Canada confronted the Norwegion Companies and this is in part their response;

“Norwegian companies such as Marine Harvest, Cermaq and Grieg Seafoods have admitted publicly at home that their farms are a major source of sea lice infecting and often killing the wild Atlantic salmon,” says Catherine Stewart of the Living Oceans Society. “Yet in Canada, these same companies deny the problem, say the science is inconclusive and do their utmost to avoid taking responsibility or working towards solutions to address the problem."

It seems to me that people who find this appalling and an atrocity should come along side the Canadians as paracletes and support their efforts in the Salmon industry ... The call and intensity for "H-E-L-P," doesn't get much louder!

After reading this article I feel impacted and empowered
to just ask, if the "Salmon are farmed or wild?"

I'm sad and shocked, to think that there just may be a couple of generations left ... I don't recognize this world any more, is this all due to greed, corruption or indifference?

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from Neffer wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

Can't watch video, broken link?

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from MickFinn2001 wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

Great synopsis of the issue! I've actually had a fishery biologist tell me that salmon farms are good because they'll reduce the demand for commercially caught salmon - absolutely crazy!, right? - especially when you understand the detrimental impacts these farms have on the ecosystem. With more open pen salmon farms, the likelihood is that we'll have fewer wild salmon in the future. Can only hope the province makes the corporations shift to closed pen farming - and soon! Incredibly, the U.S. is looking at subsidizing 'ocean aquaculture', even in the face of this kind of evidence that it would be a bad idea. Why does the U.S. want to do it? I've heard: balance of trade (the U.S. needs to export farmed salmon to balance imports of farmed salmon). Why not just support fisherman cooperatives, like the one the Alaska trollers operate out of Sitka?

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from Evan V wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

Dang it, salmon, why did you have to be so tasty, WHY

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from shane wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

If only everyone was a hunter or fisherman. Unfortunately, most people are weak and have to have their food shipped to them from faraway places that they have no knowledge of or care for.

The world would be a much better place if everyone would just man up and earn their meat. Hunting and fishing is the definition of "sustainability".

Ironically, the people that crap their pants about local, organic, sustainable, whatever, are the people that think hunting and fishing are terrible things. Idiots.

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from FloridaHunter1226 wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

I guess I could say that I am fairly un-informed because I had no idea that salmon farming had such a crucial effect on the eco-system. I can not believe that the salmon farm industry would not invest the money for holding tanks like that. Most likely because it costs some money. But it would help out the eco-system tremendously. I just think although, me refusing farm salmon will do nothing... it will only work if
A) A large number of people do it
B) Government helps out and backs us up
But asking us to refuse farm raised salmon for the time being? I wonder if they have seen the prices for wild salmon?... Not everybody can afford to eat such a delicacy.

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from MCrawdad wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

This issue has a special place in my heart here on the East Coast, where wild Atlantic salmon populations do still exist, although only on the fringes of their historic range these days.

I have been to a salmon farm on the shores of Maine, not far from the mouths of the Dennys, Machias, Shepscot and other rivers where Atlantic salmon lived. Now, those runs are nearly wiped out, if they even exist at all. Fish farms, with their ability to concentrate predators at high levels and the added stress of disease and parasites are not the only reason our Atlantic salmon are gone, but they no doubt contribute.

Click here http://www.asf.ca/issues.php?id=3 to see more issues with farm-raised salmon and our treasured silver leapers here in the east.

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from fflutterffly wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

We can't have it both way. Either we kill off our supply of wild Salmon or we continue to use waters that will have the least amount of impact on fisheries as possible to raise 'consumer stock." The implications of raising fish in waters that decimate the habitats of other species is not acceptable. For me it is not that we farm raise 'consumer stock', but how we accomplish that goal. No matter what farming is done or where, some thing will be impacted: Snail, flora, fauna. Priorities are essential. I'm just not cleaver enough to know how to make it work.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from s-kfry wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

Seems like this sort of problem comes up everytime we domesticate a species for human consumption, SLICE for Salmon, CWD for deer and elk, Mad Cow for cattle. I don't like it but I have a feeling that the alternate approach that the movie provided (of having fully enclosed runs) would make the farm raised fish just as expensive as wild caught fish. Not sure what the solution is but in a world with an ever increasing population we are going to have to make some tough choices about how to provide food for a hungry planet.

Sorry, no solutions at this point.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Woodstock wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

The video raises very good points - thanks for providing it.

But to address the title of your post: no, I don't think we'll doom wild salmon to extinction.

Mostly through habitat destruction, we've done a shameful job of destroying wild salmon stocks throughout much of their range. But in Alaska nearly all the stocks are healthy (there are a few exceptions, but most likely due to factors other than man-made).

Alaska is in a unique position to learn from the mistakes made elsewhere, and so far we've made good use of that knowledge. Habitats have been well-preserved; fish farms are prohibited.

But this should only reinforce the notion that we can't drop our guard, or lower our standards for protection. We're blessed with a treasure; squandering it would be unthinkable.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from fishjay40 wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

It only seems natural in our society to push for something that is not only easier but also cheaper. The idea of farm raised salmon probably does not matter to over 70 percent of the nation. The one thing that does matter is the price of the salmon. We anlgers and avid outdoors man have to be the spokes people for the wild salmon, unless we want to see this fish we love drift into the rough waters of extenction.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report

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from 2Poppa wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

"Is the Salmon wild or farmed?"
"I will no longer buy farmed Salmon, until the industry has gone to closed containment, and is no longer impacting ecosystems like the one in British Columbia. We can play a vital role in the Salmon industry and everything that depends on it!"
For more information: www.farmedsalmonexposed.org

Wow!
You are correct YooperJack, it is an international problem, actually global!

http://www.mangroveactionproject.org/news/current_headlines/canadians-ac...

I hope the link works!

TR,thanks for enlightening most of the population. I've always wanted to go to BC and fish for one of the finest tasting fish "caught"!

It seems that a delegation from Canada confronted the Norwegion Companies and this is in part their response;

“Norwegian companies such as Marine Harvest, Cermaq and Grieg Seafoods have admitted publicly at home that their farms are a major source of sea lice infecting and often killing the wild Atlantic salmon,” says Catherine Stewart of the Living Oceans Society. “Yet in Canada, these same companies deny the problem, say the science is inconclusive and do their utmost to avoid taking responsibility or working towards solutions to address the problem."

It seems to me that people who find this appalling and an atrocity should come along side the Canadians as paracletes and support their efforts in the Salmon industry ... The call and intensity for "H-E-L-P," doesn't get much louder!

After reading this article I feel impacted and empowered
to just ask, if the "Salmon are farmed or wild?"

I'm sad and shocked, to think that there just may be a couple of generations left ... I don't recognize this world any more, is this all due to greed, corruption or indifference?

+3 Good Comment? | | Report
from YooperJack wrote 3 years 9 weeks ago

TR
It's only too long if it's boring. Excellent watch! I would like to see the other side, but it appears that the evidence is pretty convincing. It's not just a BC problem. It's an international problem. While I've been accused of relying too much on market forces before, I believe that this could be the quickest way to effect change. These species truly are the "linchpin" that holds that ecosystem together. Also, I would like to see regulation to ensure some type of closed loop aquifer, but that will involve laws in at least two countries plus international treaties.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from MaxPower wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

Good thoughts TR. But more importantly, how do I get a copy of your pineapple, mango and jalapeno relish recipe for my wild Alaskan Salmon??

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from timromano wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

Mango, Pineapple, Onion, Cilantro, Jalapeno, Salt, Black Pepper, Lime juice, Lemon. Dice it up (fairly small) in proportions that fit your taste buds. Salt to taste and, voila. Keeps for about a week.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from buckhunter wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

Good watch TR. I'm not an expert on these things but waht if they just moved their farms about 50 miles off shore?
Either way, my fear is that the right people do not realize there is something very special about wild salmon.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Neffer wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

Can't watch video, broken link?

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from MickFinn2001 wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

Great synopsis of the issue! I've actually had a fishery biologist tell me that salmon farms are good because they'll reduce the demand for commercially caught salmon - absolutely crazy!, right? - especially when you understand the detrimental impacts these farms have on the ecosystem. With more open pen salmon farms, the likelihood is that we'll have fewer wild salmon in the future. Can only hope the province makes the corporations shift to closed pen farming - and soon! Incredibly, the U.S. is looking at subsidizing 'ocean aquaculture', even in the face of this kind of evidence that it would be a bad idea. Why does the U.S. want to do it? I've heard: balance of trade (the U.S. needs to export farmed salmon to balance imports of farmed salmon). Why not just support fisherman cooperatives, like the one the Alaska trollers operate out of Sitka?

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Evan V wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

Dang it, salmon, why did you have to be so tasty, WHY

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from shane wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

If only everyone was a hunter or fisherman. Unfortunately, most people are weak and have to have their food shipped to them from faraway places that they have no knowledge of or care for.

The world would be a much better place if everyone would just man up and earn their meat. Hunting and fishing is the definition of "sustainability".

Ironically, the people that crap their pants about local, organic, sustainable, whatever, are the people that think hunting and fishing are terrible things. Idiots.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from FloridaHunter1226 wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

I guess I could say that I am fairly un-informed because I had no idea that salmon farming had such a crucial effect on the eco-system. I can not believe that the salmon farm industry would not invest the money for holding tanks like that. Most likely because it costs some money. But it would help out the eco-system tremendously. I just think although, me refusing farm salmon will do nothing... it will only work if
A) A large number of people do it
B) Government helps out and backs us up
But asking us to refuse farm raised salmon for the time being? I wonder if they have seen the prices for wild salmon?... Not everybody can afford to eat such a delicacy.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from MCrawdad wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

This issue has a special place in my heart here on the East Coast, where wild Atlantic salmon populations do still exist, although only on the fringes of their historic range these days.

I have been to a salmon farm on the shores of Maine, not far from the mouths of the Dennys, Machias, Shepscot and other rivers where Atlantic salmon lived. Now, those runs are nearly wiped out, if they even exist at all. Fish farms, with their ability to concentrate predators at high levels and the added stress of disease and parasites are not the only reason our Atlantic salmon are gone, but they no doubt contribute.

Click here http://www.asf.ca/issues.php?id=3 to see more issues with farm-raised salmon and our treasured silver leapers here in the east.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from fflutterffly wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

We can't have it both way. Either we kill off our supply of wild Salmon or we continue to use waters that will have the least amount of impact on fisheries as possible to raise 'consumer stock." The implications of raising fish in waters that decimate the habitats of other species is not acceptable. For me it is not that we farm raise 'consumer stock', but how we accomplish that goal. No matter what farming is done or where, some thing will be impacted: Snail, flora, fauna. Priorities are essential. I'm just not cleaver enough to know how to make it work.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from s-kfry wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

Seems like this sort of problem comes up everytime we domesticate a species for human consumption, SLICE for Salmon, CWD for deer and elk, Mad Cow for cattle. I don't like it but I have a feeling that the alternate approach that the movie provided (of having fully enclosed runs) would make the farm raised fish just as expensive as wild caught fish. Not sure what the solution is but in a world with an ever increasing population we are going to have to make some tough choices about how to provide food for a hungry planet.

Sorry, no solutions at this point.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Woodstock wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

The video raises very good points - thanks for providing it.

But to address the title of your post: no, I don't think we'll doom wild salmon to extinction.

Mostly through habitat destruction, we've done a shameful job of destroying wild salmon stocks throughout much of their range. But in Alaska nearly all the stocks are healthy (there are a few exceptions, but most likely due to factors other than man-made).

Alaska is in a unique position to learn from the mistakes made elsewhere, and so far we've made good use of that knowledge. Habitats have been well-preserved; fish farms are prohibited.

But this should only reinforce the notion that we can't drop our guard, or lower our standards for protection. We're blessed with a treasure; squandering it would be unthinkable.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from fishjay40 wrote 3 years 8 weeks ago

It only seems natural in our society to push for something that is not only easier but also cheaper. The idea of farm raised salmon probably does not matter to over 70 percent of the nation. The one thing that does matter is the price of the salmon. We anlgers and avid outdoors man have to be the spokes people for the wild salmon, unless we want to see this fish we love drift into the rough waters of extenction.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report

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