


June 20, 2012
Popularity Contest: Do Looks Matter When it Comes to Game Fish?
By Kirk Deeter
Let's face it. Trout earn high respect within the fly angling world because they are "pretty fish." Doesn't matter if it's a rainbow, brown or cutthroat. The trout is the species that other fish in the same lake or river would want to take to the prom.
A bright, ruby-sided hen steelhead would be the prom queen in places like Oregon or Michigan. But a carp? Wallflower. Trash fish. Why? Because that fish is downright ugly.
It doesn't matter where you catch a carp (and I'm one of those shouting loudest from the bandwagon) — they may be cagey, tough and all that — there's no denying that this fish is plain hideous. Not in a "nice personality, but" kind of way. I'm talking stinky, foul and ugly to the eyes.
Fair is fair, however, so we might as well lump others in that group. Tarpon — the majestic, prehistoric creatures that they are (and worthy fighters to boot) — when you really think about it, is also a very ugly fish. Smallmouth bass? Ugly. A worthy fish, without question, and in my opinion, probably the most underrated quarry for fly anglers in North America. But ugly nonetheless. Largemouth bass can actually be pretty at face value, but they're so stupid, they're still ugly. Northern pike and walleyes are so sinister looking that it's hard to call them beauties. And bonefish? Well, let's call a spade and say that while they shine like diamonds in the sun when they're tailing on the flats, bring one to hand and you'll see that vacuum cleaner mouth is woefully misplaced. Bonefish are ugly, too.
The ultimate beauty queens? Well, I'm going to go with the arctic grayling, first and foremost. The fin wins. Most species of shark are so efficiently built that one cannot help but respect the inherent beauty there. Striped bass... gorgeous in a muscle-envy way. And most salmon — the "brights" that run first like the Atlantics, kings, silvers, sockeyes, whatever — are amazingly beautiful fish, though many of those species pay the penalty of becoming hideously ugly within days after entering freshwater rivers.
My question, and I think it's fair, is does the "ugly factor" matter? Do some fish get a break, earn coveted status, or maybe even unfair esteem and protection simply based on looks? And are others neglected for being on the short side of the same equation? After all, there is no "Razorback Sucker Unlimited" organization in America today. Does the beauty factor influence what you appreciate, and more importantly, how you fish? Or is a tug a tug?
Comments (56)
looks don't matter to me, when it comes to fish. Actually, I'd rather catch a 20 pound trophy carp than a ten inch 'trophy' brook trout (thats all we get in vt for natives) I think the bigger and uglier it is the cooler it is to catch. However I'm not picky when comes to fish. I just like to catch em'. Heck, sometimes I go after 5 in. minnows with my 7 wt.
i think your idea of ugly is off...all the fish you mentioned are very pretty fish...minus the carp...
I'd hate for you to be the judge of a beauty contest with the way you put down some gorgeous fish. Most days it's about the tug, not what they look like, but others, it's about the beauty, like colored up greenbacks.
a fish is a fish i don't care what's on the end of mine line. though i think the trout family is especially pretty.
I agree with 357, a fish is a fish is a fish. I target trout 98% of my trips but I'm all for chasing some carp just for the fight. To me, the only ugly fish is the one that chooses Koldkuts line over mine!
That's easily 70% of the days catch between the two of us...Abbner....
The Big Minnow(carp), can save a trip, not ugly, just not appealing. Gar, another day saver, the ones I have caught had tarpon blood, as the air show was impressive(watch them teeth). A big bronzeback redeyed Smallmouth nice looking fish as is pike, pickerel, great lakes musky(spotted devil). Da-med fillets on a walleye are the only thing that make me think this isn't the ugliest(fresh water)fish, even its cousin the perch looks better.
And I get a kick out of all the pictures with folks wearing gloves so they don't have to touch said beauties. Ugliest fish ever, the mirror carp does look like it was beaten with a sack of hot nickels.
But I'll catch 'em all day long.
While it does have something to do about the appearance of the fish itself, for me it is more about the place that I catch the fish. Give me a cold clear freestone trout stream or river over a muddy bass or carp hole anyday.
In my opinion smallmouth are one of the prettiest fish out there, and grayling look pretty ugly, that doesn't mean I wouldn't love to catch one.
I for one, think the pike family are very good looking fish. By the way, trout aren't all that smart either.
Wow, I am shocked by this post. I do agree that trout are at the top of the list, but to say smallie's are ugly is just crazy. I think they are a beautiful fish. And pike to, the slime is a bit to get over, but their shape, coloring and spot pattern is top notch.
As far as fishing for ugly fish, I feel like the problem with the carp is that on top of being nasty you basically can't do anything with them. I fish catfish all the time and they are no better looking, but they taste great. If there was a catfish for fly fishing I'm sure it would be an easier sell than carp.
A fish is a fish? Please! The uglies don't get fished for by the anglers I hang out with. The bugs, the flies that match the bugs, and the trout represent good, clean water, and fish that are physically appealing. Carp, and the rest of those slimies are just a way for the fly fishing industry to try, and save the flyshops, and the industry from a slow death. You grow, or you die, and the industry has been on the decline for sometime now. The uglies are an attempt to prop it up.
You must consider yourself part of the industry Sayfu, on the decline :)
This applies not just to fish, but to all animals. You don't see campaigns with commercials asking for donations to save endangered snakes or lizards etc, but you do to save anything cute and furry. You also see these same mental blocks surface in many people when it comes to what animals they will and will not eat. For me personally when it comes to fishing, the fish I choose to target or not has nothing at all to do with looks. My decision is based only on what I find enjoyable and what I don't. I'd prefer an afternoon of casting big baits for large, "ugly", dumb bass than a day trying to softly land small flies in front of small, "beautiful" (and very wary) trout on a small stream. Many people would say the opposite of that and that's one of the great things about fishing. There's something for everyone.
@sgtsly you had be laughing with your beaten with a sack of hot nickels comment. I couldn't give a damn about catching carp, but I won't knock anyone who goes after them. I do have to give some respect to the bigger suckers in my local trout streams (we call 'em horny heads). I've caught plenty of the small ones and they're mostly an annoyance but I've tried to catch some of the huge ones I've seen and never gotten so much as a second look from them.
big or small, ugly or pretty me catch them all. I am out to enjoy myself, if I am fly fishing for Carp then great let's do it! If I am on the Salmon river trying to land a King heading for the chum box then so be it. I Fish.
koldkut..NO doubt about the numbers. I get those from the manufacturers. They've looked for a silver lining like another movie that will give fly fishing a boost. Deeter looked for Oprah Winfrey to give it a boost, and several times believe it or not. Where is Oprah now?
Beauty is a relative characteristic. Smallmouth, ugly? I would disagree. I think redfish are funny looking but they sure are fun to catch, and eat. Catfish look like they're from another planet but everyone I know likes to catch and eat them. I guess what I'm saying is that beauty is dependant on the fish's reaction to batter and hot grease. BTW, carp are ugly and no good to eat, just sayin'.
ya know what i like to fish for?
fish
huntnow...Hope you don't "justsayin" to a Jewish person. They like baked carp. And fly anglers let most of their catch go, "catch and release" Matter of fact I fish on one of the heaviest fish waters in the lower USA, and I haven't seen a fly angler kill a fish in years.
Any fish that takes my fly, bait, or lure is a beauty to me. They're all cool in their own way!
I did not know that about baked carp, sounds awful to me but I'd be willing to give it a try. At any rate, they still aren't known for being palatable, just sayin'.
One of my absolute, all-time favorite fish to catch is the cobia, and they wouldn't even qualify to clean out the concession stand after the beauty contest, but a fifty-pounder is a beautiful thing to my eyes. Even prettier when she's on a plate with baked beans and hush puppies on the side.
There's a cable show where they fly fish for everything. I watched these folks fishing for GAR.....skinny, snake like critters with the loooooooong narrow jaws. Many were around 3ft. long, and would have slid through a mesh landing net . You could watch these things in the grass streak out, and attack their minnow imitations. Not all that much fight as they snaked around the line lure like a rattlesnake pinned down by a forked stick. But I'm sure there is some one on here that would have skinned them, and then shish-ka-bobbed them over the barbeque, and recommended a great sauce to eat them with.
I would and Santa gave me his gar pattie recipe. Yet to try it out as I haven't been able to land one yet this summer.
I guess in terms of beauty, the brook trout would be the dainty little princess and the carp would be the East German female body builder on steroids named Olga. Hey, some dude's like the Olga types.
Buckhunter...some dudes can only catch carp..."sittin on te dock of a bay" watchin their dough ball melt away." Funny how a person can get use to a look, actually anamored with it. I thought my chocolate lab was an ugly dog when I got her..thin face, skinny body as she grew up, and now I luv the heck out of her, and think she is attractive. Animals grow on people, human animals included. I would not choose a brook trout over a rainbow trout. Brook trout are in the char family, and have big mouths compared to their bodies...not so with true trout, the rainbow.
Are you trying to take the fish to bed or just catch and eat it?
Like The Northern Flyman, I fish for fish!
This is a fly fishing blog jbell. Eating the catch is not our primary reason to fly fish..far down the priority list. But to take to bed?..But I did have a fish mounted one time, for a little while at least, and then I slipped off the slimy critter.
Hey sayfu rainbow trout aren't a true trout either. The 'true' trout genus is Salmo. Rainbows are more closely related to western salmon, right. And char are just trout with fine scales.
Mr. Northern...NO, rainbows are true trout, and a salmonid. The Feds provided the Indians the liberal interpretation of Rainbows?steelhead classifying steelhead they were commercially netting, and should never have been allowed to commerically net...allowed them the new classification as "Summer-salmon!" ..so they could sell them in the foodMarts across the country. Women who do most of the shopping would be better served thinking they were buying salmon then steelhead. Salmon, and steelhead are salmo's but there is a definite distinction. Chars are not true trout...they include the Bull-trout, char, dolly vardon, brook trout...all closely related. That's why when you run into a liberal please tell them their policies don't pass the smell test. Steelheaders, especially fly angling steelheaders release ALL wild fish, and steelhead unharmed if the can. Indians?...net the bejesus out of big, native steelhead during their time to run up rivers to spawn.
should have been rainbows/steelhead. I didn't edit this post.
Not to argue here Sayfu, but all the fly fisherman I know and fish with eat their catch, as do I. May not be the primary reason to fish, but is certainly an added bonus!
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And this is coming from a guy who has experience in the Pet Fish hobby, where a lot of the fish that are valued by hobbyists would be considered downright ugly by a lot of Sportsmen.
In essence, it's all a matter of opinion. My two cents.
The fish could be as ugly as home made sin, but if it serves up well on a platter with fries and hush puppies it is a beautiful fish to me.
jbell...You live in a vacuum. Not even the lure/bait guys, a high percentage anyway, kill their catch. I think it has been quoted as 70 % release for the bait guy now. Much cooler to let them swim away, and live to fight on someone else's line. Telling folks you have to be a food gatherer is rather degrading. And I would place a bet if I could watch the fly anglers that catch and kill a high percentage of the time, I think the conclusion would be...they aren't very good fly fisherman. And I don't know the fishery either. Could be a hatchery plant fishery. All wild fish should be released. That is a concensus of all anglers, bait fisherman included.
Lousianajones. And I think your point is...you are not a fly fisherman that just hangs out on a flyfishing blog.
Seems like you think you are some spokesperson for all flyfisherman, Sayfu. Where I come from there is a mix of fly fisherman who usually practice catch and release, and those who eat all or at least some of what they catch. This holds true for all fisherman across the board, not just those with a fly rod in hand. Just because you have one experience where you are and among the small number of guys you fish with or talk to about fishing doesn't mean that holds true everywhere. You also said, "All wild fish should be released. That is a consensus of all anglers, bait fisherman included." Really? I guess I didn't get the memo. Last I checked every fishery was different.
well i've kept some wild trout and they tasted damn good! now i've never kept many (doubt i've ever kept a limit) but if i'm camping i'll keep a few to cook around the fire. natural mortality is so high in fish that catch and release is overrated in many instances. also in certain fisheries like panfish and largemouth bass catch and release can hurt the fishery. too much competiton for food and fish can become stunted.
i let probably 75% of the legal sized fish i catch go. only fish i have never kept would be the muskellunge
I think it's a two edged sword, if it is big it doesn't matter how pretty it is, if it is pretty it doesn't matter how big it is. If the fish is both, GREAT but if it's small and ugly the only thing going for would be if it is uncommon. But everyone has their own opinion of what's "pretty" to them and I can appreciated that.
Yes looks matter.
As an old man, I have to mention that carp didn't used to be called a game fish. They were a invasive species and fought by the Fish and Game Dept back in the day. I like all fish, but there is something special about big steelhead and silvers!
You are right about me not being a fly fisherman, but if I was I would still keep some fish for the table. I like to catch and release, but I also like to catch and eat.
I guess first I'll give my take on the "ugly" question.
I fish for two reasons 1) relaxation 2) food on the table
I fly fish, I use artificials, I use live bait - all depending on where I'm fishing and what I'm targeting. I can be perfectly happy not catching anything, because time on or in the water relaxes me, but any fish that decides it wants to put a bend in my rod is a beautiful thing. So if it happens to be a carp making my drag scream or a steelhead putting on a aerobatic show, or a smallmouth tail-dancing and doing a vicious head shake, there is nothing ugly about them. If it is a species that I find tasty, bonus! How about fly fishing for panfish - bluegill and crappie are great table fare. it's a lot of fun and makes for a great meal.
To Sayfu... Dude, you need to spend more time outside your little group of holier-than-thou C&R fanatics. Fishing has a history that goes back to the earliest humans on the planet, and didn't evolve around putting food back in the water. Yes, it is a good thing to let some fish go and to only keep what you'll eat, but to make broad-based comments like yours, is naive, to say the least. If you prefer to release everything you catch, that is your prerogative, and more power to you. If I decide that I want to put a couple steelhead fillets in the smoker, or beerbatter and deep fry some crappie fillets, that is my prerogative (and right). What it boils down to is there are creel limits and length regulations in place to help manage fisheries. If a species becomes too abundant, competition for food will cause stunting - that is a fact. Harvesting fish is part of managing the fisheries. If you want to continue catching trout with any size to them, don't knock the guys who thin the population so that there are big fish for you to catch.
i would put all trout and salmon on the "pretty" list. also northern pike and yellow perch
wisc14
what say you to all the trout, with brook trout at the top of the list, followed by yellow perch then pike?
I think that's how my list would look. With smallmouth (nice bronze color), then black crappie (love those speckles)
I don't think fish are pretty, I think women are. But I think catching fish is better than talking to women.
What an absurd article and a pointless debate
only trout i catch are from the finger lakes and the lampreys have done a number on em,I personally think the tiger muskie hybrid is possibly the most beautiful fish.
Mr Northern Flyman said it best. And I find the beauty in all things...even the bottom feeders.
Yeah, I think some fish are prettier than others. Like the cutthroats in Trappers Lake. Like spawning brook trout in Labrador. Arctic char. Buttery browns with big red spots. Redband rainbows and leopard rainbows. The freakin' salmonids are beautiful!
Nuclear_fish, I have caught untold numbers of channel cats and blue cats on a fly rod. First, they have to be in a fly fishing catch-able spot, I prefer small creeks and rivers. I find the time best is at night and morning. For flies, I catch them on a Pheasant Tale Crayfish (a crayfish fly of my own device) and either rusty or olive colored woolybuggers on a sized 4 or 2 long shank hook. I fish both fairly slowly. They are fighters, fighting longer and harder than bass, just without the show boating jumps.
Everyone loves to take a picture with a pretty fish, but I am as much in it for the fun of the fight as the taste of it when it comes off the grill. Looks don't really faze me. Do the pretty fish get preference? That's like asking do the pretty girls get asked to prom first? I think people covet the pretty fish, but I bet you that if your neighbor showed you a picture with a 50lbs catfish you would still be pretty darn jealous, AND HUNGRY!!!
Everyone loves to take a picture with a pretty fish, but I am as much in it for the fun of the fight as the taste of it when it comes off the grill. Looks don't really faze me. Do the pretty fish get preference? That's like asking do the pretty girls get asked to prom first? I think people covet the pretty fish, but I bet you that if your neighbor showed you a picture with a 50lbs catfish you would still be pretty darn jealous, AND HUNGRY!!!
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i think your idea of ugly is off...all the fish you mentioned are very pretty fish...minus the carp...
I'd hate for you to be the judge of a beauty contest with the way you put down some gorgeous fish. Most days it's about the tug, not what they look like, but others, it's about the beauty, like colored up greenbacks.
ya know what i like to fish for?
fish
The Big Minnow(carp), can save a trip, not ugly, just not appealing. Gar, another day saver, the ones I have caught had tarpon blood, as the air show was impressive(watch them teeth). A big bronzeback redeyed Smallmouth nice looking fish as is pike, pickerel, great lakes musky(spotted devil). Da-med fillets on a walleye are the only thing that make me think this isn't the ugliest(fresh water)fish, even its cousin the perch looks better.
Any fish that takes my fly, bait, or lure is a beauty to me. They're all cool in their own way!
I for one, think the pike family are very good looking fish. By the way, trout aren't all that smart either.
Not to argue here Sayfu, but all the fly fisherman I know and fish with eat their catch, as do I. May not be the primary reason to fish, but is certainly an added bonus!
While it does have something to do about the appearance of the fish itself, for me it is more about the place that I catch the fish. Give me a cold clear freestone trout stream or river over a muddy bass or carp hole anyday.
You must consider yourself part of the industry Sayfu, on the decline :)
One of my absolute, all-time favorite fish to catch is the cobia, and they wouldn't even qualify to clean out the concession stand after the beauty contest, but a fifty-pounder is a beautiful thing to my eyes. Even prettier when she's on a plate with baked beans and hush puppies on the side.
Wow, I am shocked by this post. I do agree that trout are at the top of the list, but to say smallie's are ugly is just crazy. I think they are a beautiful fish. And pike to, the slime is a bit to get over, but their shape, coloring and spot pattern is top notch.
As far as fishing for ugly fish, I feel like the problem with the carp is that on top of being nasty you basically can't do anything with them. I fish catfish all the time and they are no better looking, but they taste great. If there was a catfish for fly fishing I'm sure it would be an easier sell than carp.
And I get a kick out of all the pictures with folks wearing gloves so they don't have to touch said beauties. Ugliest fish ever, the mirror carp does look like it was beaten with a sack of hot nickels.
Are you trying to take the fish to bed or just catch and eat it?
Like The Northern Flyman, I fish for fish!
I guess in terms of beauty, the brook trout would be the dainty little princess and the carp would be the East German female body builder on steroids named Olga. Hey, some dude's like the Olga types.
That's easily 70% of the days catch between the two of us...Abbner....
As an old man, I have to mention that carp didn't used to be called a game fish. They were a invasive species and fought by the Fish and Game Dept back in the day. I like all fish, but there is something special about big steelhead and silvers!
Beauty is a relative characteristic. Smallmouth, ugly? I would disagree. I think redfish are funny looking but they sure are fun to catch, and eat. Catfish look like they're from another planet but everyone I know likes to catch and eat them. I guess what I'm saying is that beauty is dependant on the fish's reaction to batter and hot grease. BTW, carp are ugly and no good to eat, just sayin'.
There's a cable show where they fly fish for everything. I watched these folks fishing for GAR.....skinny, snake like critters with the loooooooong narrow jaws. Many were around 3ft. long, and would have slid through a mesh landing net . You could watch these things in the grass streak out, and attack their minnow imitations. Not all that much fight as they snaked around the line lure like a rattlesnake pinned down by a forked stick. But I'm sure there is some one on here that would have skinned them, and then shish-ka-bobbed them over the barbeque, and recommended a great sauce to eat them with.
I agree with 357, a fish is a fish is a fish. I target trout 98% of my trips but I'm all for chasing some carp just for the fight. To me, the only ugly fish is the one that chooses Koldkuts line over mine!
I would and Santa gave me his gar pattie recipe. Yet to try it out as I haven't been able to land one yet this summer.
But I'll catch 'em all day long.
This applies not just to fish, but to all animals. You don't see campaigns with commercials asking for donations to save endangered snakes or lizards etc, but you do to save anything cute and furry. You also see these same mental blocks surface in many people when it comes to what animals they will and will not eat. For me personally when it comes to fishing, the fish I choose to target or not has nothing at all to do with looks. My decision is based only on what I find enjoyable and what I don't. I'd prefer an afternoon of casting big baits for large, "ugly", dumb bass than a day trying to softly land small flies in front of small, "beautiful" (and very wary) trout on a small stream. Many people would say the opposite of that and that's one of the great things about fishing. There's something for everyone.
Seems like you think you are some spokesperson for all flyfisherman, Sayfu. Where I come from there is a mix of fly fisherman who usually practice catch and release, and those who eat all or at least some of what they catch. This holds true for all fisherman across the board, not just those with a fly rod in hand. Just because you have one experience where you are and among the small number of guys you fish with or talk to about fishing doesn't mean that holds true everywhere. You also said, "All wild fish should be released. That is a consensus of all anglers, bait fisherman included." Really? I guess I didn't get the memo. Last I checked every fishery was different.
I guess first I'll give my take on the "ugly" question.
I fish for two reasons 1) relaxation 2) food on the table
I fly fish, I use artificials, I use live bait - all depending on where I'm fishing and what I'm targeting. I can be perfectly happy not catching anything, because time on or in the water relaxes me, but any fish that decides it wants to put a bend in my rod is a beautiful thing. So if it happens to be a carp making my drag scream or a steelhead putting on a aerobatic show, or a smallmouth tail-dancing and doing a vicious head shake, there is nothing ugly about them. If it is a species that I find tasty, bonus! How about fly fishing for panfish - bluegill and crappie are great table fare. it's a lot of fun and makes for a great meal.
To Sayfu... Dude, you need to spend more time outside your little group of holier-than-thou C&R fanatics. Fishing has a history that goes back to the earliest humans on the planet, and didn't evolve around putting food back in the water. Yes, it is a good thing to let some fish go and to only keep what you'll eat, but to make broad-based comments like yours, is naive, to say the least. If you prefer to release everything you catch, that is your prerogative, and more power to you. If I decide that I want to put a couple steelhead fillets in the smoker, or beerbatter and deep fry some crappie fillets, that is my prerogative (and right). What it boils down to is there are creel limits and length regulations in place to help manage fisheries. If a species becomes too abundant, competition for food will cause stunting - that is a fact. Harvesting fish is part of managing the fisheries. If you want to continue catching trout with any size to them, don't knock the guys who thin the population so that there are big fish for you to catch.
a fish is a fish i don't care what's on the end of mine line. though i think the trout family is especially pretty.
I don't think fish are pretty, I think women are. But I think catching fish is better than talking to women.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And this is coming from a guy who has experience in the Pet Fish hobby, where a lot of the fish that are valued by hobbyists would be considered downright ugly by a lot of Sportsmen.
In essence, it's all a matter of opinion. My two cents.
looks don't matter to me, when it comes to fish. Actually, I'd rather catch a 20 pound trophy carp than a ten inch 'trophy' brook trout (thats all we get in vt for natives) I think the bigger and uglier it is the cooler it is to catch. However I'm not picky when comes to fish. I just like to catch em'. Heck, sometimes I go after 5 in. minnows with my 7 wt.
Yes looks matter.
I did not know that about baked carp, sounds awful to me but I'd be willing to give it a try. At any rate, they still aren't known for being palatable, just sayin'.
koldkut..NO doubt about the numbers. I get those from the manufacturers. They've looked for a silver lining like another movie that will give fly fishing a boost. Deeter looked for Oprah Winfrey to give it a boost, and several times believe it or not. Where is Oprah now?
huntnow...Hope you don't "justsayin" to a Jewish person. They like baked carp. And fly anglers let most of their catch go, "catch and release" Matter of fact I fish on one of the heaviest fish waters in the lower USA, and I haven't seen a fly angler kill a fish in years.
Buckhunter...some dudes can only catch carp..."sittin on te dock of a bay" watchin their dough ball melt away." Funny how a person can get use to a look, actually anamored with it. I thought my chocolate lab was an ugly dog when I got her..thin face, skinny body as she grew up, and now I luv the heck out of her, and think she is attractive. Animals grow on people, human animals included. I would not choose a brook trout over a rainbow trout. Brook trout are in the char family, and have big mouths compared to their bodies...not so with true trout, the rainbow.
should have been rainbows/steelhead. I didn't edit this post.
well i've kept some wild trout and they tasted damn good! now i've never kept many (doubt i've ever kept a limit) but if i'm camping i'll keep a few to cook around the fire. natural mortality is so high in fish that catch and release is overrated in many instances. also in certain fisheries like panfish and largemouth bass catch and release can hurt the fishery. too much competiton for food and fish can become stunted.
i let probably 75% of the legal sized fish i catch go. only fish i have never kept would be the muskellunge
i would put all trout and salmon on the "pretty" list. also northern pike and yellow perch
In my opinion smallmouth are one of the prettiest fish out there, and grayling look pretty ugly, that doesn't mean I wouldn't love to catch one.
The fish could be as ugly as home made sin, but if it serves up well on a platter with fries and hush puppies it is a beautiful fish to me.
You are right about me not being a fly fisherman, but if I was I would still keep some fish for the table. I like to catch and release, but I also like to catch and eat.
@sgtsly you had be laughing with your beaten with a sack of hot nickels comment. I couldn't give a damn about catching carp, but I won't knock anyone who goes after them. I do have to give some respect to the bigger suckers in my local trout streams (we call 'em horny heads). I've caught plenty of the small ones and they're mostly an annoyance but I've tried to catch some of the huge ones I've seen and never gotten so much as a second look from them.
wisc14
what say you to all the trout, with brook trout at the top of the list, followed by yellow perch then pike?
I think that's how my list would look. With smallmouth (nice bronze color), then black crappie (love those speckles)
I think it's a two edged sword, if it is big it doesn't matter how pretty it is, if it is pretty it doesn't matter how big it is. If the fish is both, GREAT but if it's small and ugly the only thing going for would be if it is uncommon. But everyone has their own opinion of what's "pretty" to them and I can appreciated that.
Yeah, I think some fish are prettier than others. Like the cutthroats in Trappers Lake. Like spawning brook trout in Labrador. Arctic char. Buttery browns with big red spots. Redband rainbows and leopard rainbows. The freakin' salmonids are beautiful!
only trout i catch are from the finger lakes and the lampreys have done a number on em,I personally think the tiger muskie hybrid is possibly the most beautiful fish.
big or small, ugly or pretty me catch them all. I am out to enjoy myself, if I am fly fishing for Carp then great let's do it! If I am on the Salmon river trying to land a King heading for the chum box then so be it. I Fish.
Hey sayfu rainbow trout aren't a true trout either. The 'true' trout genus is Salmo. Rainbows are more closely related to western salmon, right. And char are just trout with fine scales.
Nuclear_fish, I have caught untold numbers of channel cats and blue cats on a fly rod. First, they have to be in a fly fishing catch-able spot, I prefer small creeks and rivers. I find the time best is at night and morning. For flies, I catch them on a Pheasant Tale Crayfish (a crayfish fly of my own device) and either rusty or olive colored woolybuggers on a sized 4 or 2 long shank hook. I fish both fairly slowly. They are fighters, fighting longer and harder than bass, just without the show boating jumps.
Mr Northern Flyman said it best. And I find the beauty in all things...even the bottom feeders.
Everyone loves to take a picture with a pretty fish, but I am as much in it for the fun of the fight as the taste of it when it comes off the grill. Looks don't really faze me. Do the pretty fish get preference? That's like asking do the pretty girls get asked to prom first? I think people covet the pretty fish, but I bet you that if your neighbor showed you a picture with a 50lbs catfish you would still be pretty darn jealous, AND HUNGRY!!!
Everyone loves to take a picture with a pretty fish, but I am as much in it for the fun of the fight as the taste of it when it comes off the grill. Looks don't really faze me. Do the pretty fish get preference? That's like asking do the pretty girls get asked to prom first? I think people covet the pretty fish, but I bet you that if your neighbor showed you a picture with a 50lbs catfish you would still be pretty darn jealous, AND HUNGRY!!!
A fish is a fish? Please! The uglies don't get fished for by the anglers I hang out with. The bugs, the flies that match the bugs, and the trout represent good, clean water, and fish that are physically appealing. Carp, and the rest of those slimies are just a way for the fly fishing industry to try, and save the flyshops, and the industry from a slow death. You grow, or you die, and the industry has been on the decline for sometime now. The uglies are an attempt to prop it up.
This is a fly fishing blog jbell. Eating the catch is not our primary reason to fly fish..far down the priority list. But to take to bed?..But I did have a fish mounted one time, for a little while at least, and then I slipped off the slimy critter.
What an absurd article and a pointless debate
Mr. Northern...NO, rainbows are true trout, and a salmonid. The Feds provided the Indians the liberal interpretation of Rainbows?steelhead classifying steelhead they were commercially netting, and should never have been allowed to commerically net...allowed them the new classification as "Summer-salmon!" ..so they could sell them in the foodMarts across the country. Women who do most of the shopping would be better served thinking they were buying salmon then steelhead. Salmon, and steelhead are salmo's but there is a definite distinction. Chars are not true trout...they include the Bull-trout, char, dolly vardon, brook trout...all closely related. That's why when you run into a liberal please tell them their policies don't pass the smell test. Steelheaders, especially fly angling steelheaders release ALL wild fish, and steelhead unharmed if the can. Indians?...net the bejesus out of big, native steelhead during their time to run up rivers to spawn.
Lousianajones. And I think your point is...you are not a fly fisherman that just hangs out on a flyfishing blog.
jbell...You live in a vacuum. Not even the lure/bait guys, a high percentage anyway, kill their catch. I think it has been quoted as 70 % release for the bait guy now. Much cooler to let them swim away, and live to fight on someone else's line. Telling folks you have to be a food gatherer is rather degrading. And I would place a bet if I could watch the fly anglers that catch and kill a high percentage of the time, I think the conclusion would be...they aren't very good fly fisherman. And I don't know the fishery either. Could be a hatchery plant fishery. All wild fish should be released. That is a concensus of all anglers, bait fisherman included.
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