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October 11, 2012

Are Fly-Rod Warranties Going Away?

By Kirk Deeter

If my dog eats the grip off my new $700 fly rod, will you buy me a new one?

That's basically how it's playing out now with many of those "lifetime guarantee" rods, whether you realize it or not. You're not exactly buying my replacement rod, but when you purchase warrantied rods, you are paying into an "insurance pool" of sorts. We all know nothing is really "free," especially not in fly fishing.

Let's break this down using basic math for the sake of explanation. Assume that an average of one in three rods gets broken in its lifetime. The retail price we pay for rods is therefore closer to the actual cost of 1.33 rods. You're kicking in an extra third. If you break your rod, that's money well spent. If you don't, you took one for the team.

We've talked about this before, but the reason I'm bringing this up again is that I've heard more rumblings within the past three months than I have in the last decade that some of those warranties may be going away, or at least pricing will be changed to give consumers an option of paying for them or not. After all, you can opt for the extended service plan when you buy a new car, or you can pay extra for a replacement warranty when you buy a new television. But you have the choice.

Wouldn't you rather have the choice to buy the $300 rod for $200, or the $750 rod for $500? I would.

The vast majority of rods get broken by people doing dumb things. I admit that I am more careless with expensive fly rods than I should be because I consider the warranty a license for stupidity. So I break more than I should.

Granted, a rod that just breaks should be replaced, but how can you really tell if a rod breaks because of defects or mistakes? The number of rods that "just broke on a fish" will no doubt climb exponentially. But you're already paying more for replacements. Used to be that if you broke a rod, and if you paid to send it in (maybe $10), it came back fixed, or you got a new one a few weeks or months later. Now you have to pay $50 bucks or more for the "processing."

I say get rid of all of it. Lose the hocus-pocus warranty stuff and sell rods for their real value. We all know better.

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from buckhunter wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

I find most rod companies which do not offer a warranty will give some sort of discount on the purchase of your next rod. After recently breaking a couple rods, both T&T and St. Croix offered me a new rod at a steeply discounted price. I took advantage of both offers. I like the idea of getting the next rod at a discounted price rather than paying for the warranty up front.

Short story. Was kayak fishing Lake Erie this summer with both fly and spinning tackle. Hooked a bass which I grabbed by the lip and pulled into the kayak. I reached into his mouth to remove the hook only to see a snake coming out of his mouth and into my lap. I threw it all overboard, keeping a hold of the rod only. The snake was pesky, he tried to climb into my kayak so I grabbed the net to knock him away. My kayak was his only safe haven. At that time my rod was laid across the kayak, the hook had snagged a rock, a wave rolled through, raised my kayak and busted my rod in two. I have been contemplating returning my rod to Loomis with this story but fear no one will believe me. I doubt it's covered anyway. Not sure I want it replace, lots of fond memories with that rod, including the last.

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from Rhythm Rider wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

It's an interesting thought. The straight math would be 25% off not 1/3. If you're paying for 1.33 rods, 1/1.33 = .75 right. So the $750 rod would cost $562 and change.

Here's another thought, what if manufacturers stopped selling to guides at deep discounts, and doing giveaways and sponsoring every movie with their gear? There's a cost for that. A guide friend of mine was told a 'staggering' amount (30-40% of goods made) of some manufactures market is to guides and pro staff that get gear at deep discounts or free.

I understand business is business, but reality is expensive gear has some ego boosting cost built in. If they were really into cheap gear they'd follow TFO's business model. In the end the expensive stuff is seriously quality stuff and I want it too, but just can't justify most of it until it hits the used market.

As for warranties, charge on a case by case basis or get a replacement plan cost. That would help a little, but my guess is not a 25-33% cost reduction.

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from jaukulele wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

That's very interesting. I know that I never spring for the protection plans when the store offers them. I am, like everyone who's willing to admit it, tempted to break my rod on "accident" near the end of its unused warranty period. Would getting rid of it benefit the company or the fisherman, though? I would say only the fisherman, which is why I doubt they'll ever completely go away. Even if they do get rid of the program, They will still find something to justify keeping the markup. That's business.

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from smccardell wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

I key point in the math analysis is that the "replacement" rod is costing the manufacturer the full price we pay for it at retail. The correct calculation could only be done if we new the per unit cost of the manufacturer. If it only costs them $50 to actually make the rod, then the resulting price decrease of offering a warranty-less rod would be minimal. In the end I think keeping the warranty is as much a PR/marketing issue as it is anything else. I mean lets face it, if I am paying a premium price for something and i have a choice between company A that stands behind their product with a warranty or company B who doesn't but is slightly cheaper, who do you REALLY think I am going to buy it from?

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from smccardell wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

Isn't costing. I HATE auto correct!

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from clinchknot wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

I think Buckhunter is snake bit. Where did you hook a bass in Lake Erie? Near what Island, or off what area? Probably off of Rattlesnake Island if the bass had a snake in its mouth.

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from Josh Thigpen wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

Interesting article...not sure I agree. I have never broken a spinning rod...I've broken rods casting or fighting fish 3 or 4 times with a fly pole. I might just be a crap fly fisherman....

I've got two sage rods and a fethastyx that is in pieces in the garage. I've not been fly fishing long (+3 years but lots of fish under my belt), but I'm fishing salmon and steelhead in WA and AK and bass, carp, whatever in TX pretty regularly.

In the last three years, I have had my 5wt replaced 2 times and my 8wt replaced 3 times (one because I left it on the roof). Ultilatly you pay for what you get...it's pay now, pay later. The fethastyx rod was fantastic, purchased for 120$ while the 8wt was being replaced and broke while casting. It's now trash....

If the 5wt and 8wt were 150 blanks, I'd be out 750 now. I'll say I'm about 200$ from even with no chance recoupoing the fethastyx rod. The 8wt is about to go back in for replacement...that adds another.

I guess it boils down to how much you fish and what you fish for.
-josh.

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from Josh Thigpen wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

PS - When I'm fishing a lot (+10 hours a week) I break two to three fly rods a year...if you're not doing that perhaps you're not fishing hard enough....

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from Josh Thigpen wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

PS - When I'm fishing a lot (+10 hours a week) I break two to three fly rods a year...if you're not doing that perhaps you're not fishing hard enough....

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from natureonthefly wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

I am sort of with Mr. Thigpen. Could be a crap fly fisherman too, but of the 3 rods I own two have already gone to warranty. It's always traumatic to have a rod break, but I couldn't imagine breaking one and knowing I was out a couple hundred bucks. I appreciate being able to spend a much smaller fee to have a new rod back before too much heartache sets in. of course i wish these fees were cheaper, but $30 will always be << $300.

I also feel that I probably pay as much or even more to get a company's name on my rod. There's always a mark up in retail and who knows how much is in a warranty vs what's in a profit margin.

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from fflutterffly wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

I fish two rod companies: Sage and Allen. Every time I have a Sage break it's 50.00 and takes over a month to get the rod back. When I broke my Allen it cost 35.00 and I had the tip in three days. I like warranties, but I also like customer service better. I can't afford to have rods out of service and not in the hands of students. I amortize the cost of the repair over the life of the rod, hours it is used and full replacement cost. If you do the math with those factors in mind the replacement option (it's not really a warranty) is not that 'over the top.' If I break a rod twice in it's life time the cost is worth the option.

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from Charlie Nichols wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

My call is to buy my rods and reels at Cabela's, buy their CXP, Cabela's eXtended Protection plan and then enjoy the sweet deal of not paying for others rods with an inflated price at the register. I am paying for my rod warranty not everyone that didn't want one! Ah the free market does have its advantages, you just have to do some research guys and gals.

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from clinchknot wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

Bottomline with all of this?..good bye US rod makers. Rods wil continue to be made in the Far East.

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from buckhunter wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

Clinch, It is not proper etiquette to mention specific spots on the internet but I will tell you I was near a lighthouse. As always, I am flattered you respond to my post.

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from fflutterffly wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

Does anyone know where or who is making Cabela's rods? Just curious.

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from clinchknot wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

buck. You didn't have to give me a GPS coordinate location. :) I was just interested in the general area. And that lighthouse? I slipped off the rocks as a wee youngster, maybe 2-3 yrs. old, and came very close to drowning. Slipped off the marble. :)

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from buckhunter wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

Clinch, I slipped myself and landed on my backside in front of many onlookers while putting in.

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from Hornd wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

Here's a way to fix it to make everyone quasi happy. Serial number the rods. (If they can screen print on a beer bottle it's surely cheap enough for a rod)
Sell the rods at normal price with no warranty. They come with a postcard that also has a website where the rod can be registered for a 5 yr or lifetime warranty for set $. Rod company returns an equivalent rod (not newest model) when broken rod is returned and the warranty fee covers the shipping back to consumer. Or they could do something like 33% off newest model.
Why not give the consumer the choice? Just please don't call it an Extended Warranty or I will never buy it and ask "Why do I need that, don't you think it's gonna hold up?"

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from clinchknot wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

Hornd,
It is not...don't you think it will hold up regarding the mfger. It is the fact the darn product is 9 ft. long, and can't be a Sharkespeare 'Ugly stick" if you want it virtually indestructible. They are finely made instruments that are light wt. and thin at the tip especially. Think of all the abuses the mfger expects to have happen. Guys clomping around a boat, I've seen rod tips extended off the bed of a P/U going down a chuck hole road. Overloading a rod on snags expecting the rod to win the battle against an 8 lb or better tippet, or line. Car doors, house pets destroying them, and many other ways you can think of. YOu do have a good idea...you buy the policy, or not, and purchase the rod at the fair price.

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from BackRoad600 wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

I like warranties...I tend to break things accidentally,and not just fishing stuff. don't ask why, because I might have to admit that I'm sometimes careless...

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from Koldkut wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

It seems to sink in when I say that you buy a car and drive it off the lot and hit a lightpole, they have to replace your car? I agree that warranties are overinflated here, folks should take better care of their gear.

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from scooterg10 wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

I don't think many people are going to be willing to drop $800+ on a fragile, luxury product without some sort of insurance. I believe the fly rod companies are going to have to offer something to sell the high end rods. If moral hazard is such a big problem, raise the deductible- make it more expensive for someone to abuse their rod. Besides, in the one in three example, I doubt most rods are completely replaced when broken. Most of the time I would guess the company simply replaces the broken section. This makes it hard for me to believe you would really see a 25% drop in prices.

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from clinchknot wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

It is labor time as well. An employee has to receive the broken rod, open it, take care of the repair, repackage it, and send it off...time is money. I see more, and more rods exiting the country, and built oversees, and their conditions of purchase.

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from labrador12 wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

2011 I fished in Ak from the end of April to mid Oct. I fished every day for at least a little while and put in as much as 6 hours on some days. I was fishing steelhead in the spring and salmon into Oct. Last year I didn't break a rod. Some years you do, some years you don't. I've broken two rods fishing from a submerged gravel bar trying to net good silvers with a short handled net. This year an Orvis reel seat malfunctioned on me and I cobbed up a cork grip on a snagged silver that had me into the backing while I was trying to keep the reel from falling off. I carry two Orvis and two Fenwicks. I also have the Ugly Stick big water that I brought up in 2000 when I first decided to chase salmon on a fly rod. I've never broken the Ugly Stick, but my arm can't handle that rod for hours at a time for weeks at a time. I'm a geezer, I love chasing big silvers on a fly rod but without a warranty I guess I would be done. Stuff breaks when you're chasing big fish with light rods and weighted flies.

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from clinchknot wrote 1 year 26 weeks ago

And in Alaska?....land of the broken sports rods. I guided in Alaska, and rods broke like preparing kindling for the fire.

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from PSEarcher33 wrote 1 year 15 weeks ago

I agree It seems like most fly rod warranties are going away. I think we should have the choice to add the warranty to the rod or not. If im buying a more expensive rod im going to put a warranty on it but if its just a cheap rod no I dont want to pay the extra for the warranty. They should start offering store warranties that you can pay for and giving you options on how many years of warrant you can pay for.

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from buckhunter wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

I find most rod companies which do not offer a warranty will give some sort of discount on the purchase of your next rod. After recently breaking a couple rods, both T&T and St. Croix offered me a new rod at a steeply discounted price. I took advantage of both offers. I like the idea of getting the next rod at a discounted price rather than paying for the warranty up front.

Short story. Was kayak fishing Lake Erie this summer with both fly and spinning tackle. Hooked a bass which I grabbed by the lip and pulled into the kayak. I reached into his mouth to remove the hook only to see a snake coming out of his mouth and into my lap. I threw it all overboard, keeping a hold of the rod only. The snake was pesky, he tried to climb into my kayak so I grabbed the net to knock him away. My kayak was his only safe haven. At that time my rod was laid across the kayak, the hook had snagged a rock, a wave rolled through, raised my kayak and busted my rod in two. I have been contemplating returning my rod to Loomis with this story but fear no one will believe me. I doubt it's covered anyway. Not sure I want it replace, lots of fond memories with that rod, including the last.

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from Charlie Nichols wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

My call is to buy my rods and reels at Cabela's, buy their CXP, Cabela's eXtended Protection plan and then enjoy the sweet deal of not paying for others rods with an inflated price at the register. I am paying for my rod warranty not everyone that didn't want one! Ah the free market does have its advantages, you just have to do some research guys and gals.

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from Rhythm Rider wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

It's an interesting thought. The straight math would be 25% off not 1/3. If you're paying for 1.33 rods, 1/1.33 = .75 right. So the $750 rod would cost $562 and change.

Here's another thought, what if manufacturers stopped selling to guides at deep discounts, and doing giveaways and sponsoring every movie with their gear? There's a cost for that. A guide friend of mine was told a 'staggering' amount (30-40% of goods made) of some manufactures market is to guides and pro staff that get gear at deep discounts or free.

I understand business is business, but reality is expensive gear has some ego boosting cost built in. If they were really into cheap gear they'd follow TFO's business model. In the end the expensive stuff is seriously quality stuff and I want it too, but just can't justify most of it until it hits the used market.

As for warranties, charge on a case by case basis or get a replacement plan cost. That would help a little, but my guess is not a 25-33% cost reduction.

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from jaukulele wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

That's very interesting. I know that I never spring for the protection plans when the store offers them. I am, like everyone who's willing to admit it, tempted to break my rod on "accident" near the end of its unused warranty period. Would getting rid of it benefit the company or the fisherman, though? I would say only the fisherman, which is why I doubt they'll ever completely go away. Even if they do get rid of the program, They will still find something to justify keeping the markup. That's business.

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from smccardell wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

I key point in the math analysis is that the "replacement" rod is costing the manufacturer the full price we pay for it at retail. The correct calculation could only be done if we new the per unit cost of the manufacturer. If it only costs them $50 to actually make the rod, then the resulting price decrease of offering a warranty-less rod would be minimal. In the end I think keeping the warranty is as much a PR/marketing issue as it is anything else. I mean lets face it, if I am paying a premium price for something and i have a choice between company A that stands behind their product with a warranty or company B who doesn't but is slightly cheaper, who do you REALLY think I am going to buy it from?

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from labrador12 wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

2011 I fished in Ak from the end of April to mid Oct. I fished every day for at least a little while and put in as much as 6 hours on some days. I was fishing steelhead in the spring and salmon into Oct. Last year I didn't break a rod. Some years you do, some years you don't. I've broken two rods fishing from a submerged gravel bar trying to net good silvers with a short handled net. This year an Orvis reel seat malfunctioned on me and I cobbed up a cork grip on a snagged silver that had me into the backing while I was trying to keep the reel from falling off. I carry two Orvis and two Fenwicks. I also have the Ugly Stick big water that I brought up in 2000 when I first decided to chase salmon on a fly rod. I've never broken the Ugly Stick, but my arm can't handle that rod for hours at a time for weeks at a time. I'm a geezer, I love chasing big silvers on a fly rod but without a warranty I guess I would be done. Stuff breaks when you're chasing big fish with light rods and weighted flies.

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from smccardell wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

Isn't costing. I HATE auto correct!

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from clinchknot wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

I think Buckhunter is snake bit. Where did you hook a bass in Lake Erie? Near what Island, or off what area? Probably off of Rattlesnake Island if the bass had a snake in its mouth.

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from Josh Thigpen wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

Interesting article...not sure I agree. I have never broken a spinning rod...I've broken rods casting or fighting fish 3 or 4 times with a fly pole. I might just be a crap fly fisherman....

I've got two sage rods and a fethastyx that is in pieces in the garage. I've not been fly fishing long (+3 years but lots of fish under my belt), but I'm fishing salmon and steelhead in WA and AK and bass, carp, whatever in TX pretty regularly.

In the last three years, I have had my 5wt replaced 2 times and my 8wt replaced 3 times (one because I left it on the roof). Ultilatly you pay for what you get...it's pay now, pay later. The fethastyx rod was fantastic, purchased for 120$ while the 8wt was being replaced and broke while casting. It's now trash....

If the 5wt and 8wt were 150 blanks, I'd be out 750 now. I'll say I'm about 200$ from even with no chance recoupoing the fethastyx rod. The 8wt is about to go back in for replacement...that adds another.

I guess it boils down to how much you fish and what you fish for.
-josh.

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from Josh Thigpen wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

PS - When I'm fishing a lot (+10 hours a week) I break two to three fly rods a year...if you're not doing that perhaps you're not fishing hard enough....

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from Josh Thigpen wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

PS - When I'm fishing a lot (+10 hours a week) I break two to three fly rods a year...if you're not doing that perhaps you're not fishing hard enough....

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from natureonthefly wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

I am sort of with Mr. Thigpen. Could be a crap fly fisherman too, but of the 3 rods I own two have already gone to warranty. It's always traumatic to have a rod break, but I couldn't imagine breaking one and knowing I was out a couple hundred bucks. I appreciate being able to spend a much smaller fee to have a new rod back before too much heartache sets in. of course i wish these fees were cheaper, but $30 will always be << $300.

I also feel that I probably pay as much or even more to get a company's name on my rod. There's always a mark up in retail and who knows how much is in a warranty vs what's in a profit margin.

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from fflutterffly wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

I fish two rod companies: Sage and Allen. Every time I have a Sage break it's 50.00 and takes over a month to get the rod back. When I broke my Allen it cost 35.00 and I had the tip in three days. I like warranties, but I also like customer service better. I can't afford to have rods out of service and not in the hands of students. I amortize the cost of the repair over the life of the rod, hours it is used and full replacement cost. If you do the math with those factors in mind the replacement option (it's not really a warranty) is not that 'over the top.' If I break a rod twice in it's life time the cost is worth the option.

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from clinchknot wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

Bottomline with all of this?..good bye US rod makers. Rods wil continue to be made in the Far East.

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from buckhunter wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

Clinch, It is not proper etiquette to mention specific spots on the internet but I will tell you I was near a lighthouse. As always, I am flattered you respond to my post.

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from fflutterffly wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

Does anyone know where or who is making Cabela's rods? Just curious.

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from clinchknot wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

buck. You didn't have to give me a GPS coordinate location. :) I was just interested in the general area. And that lighthouse? I slipped off the rocks as a wee youngster, maybe 2-3 yrs. old, and came very close to drowning. Slipped off the marble. :)

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from buckhunter wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

Clinch, I slipped myself and landed on my backside in front of many onlookers while putting in.

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from Hornd wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

Here's a way to fix it to make everyone quasi happy. Serial number the rods. (If they can screen print on a beer bottle it's surely cheap enough for a rod)
Sell the rods at normal price with no warranty. They come with a postcard that also has a website where the rod can be registered for a 5 yr or lifetime warranty for set $. Rod company returns an equivalent rod (not newest model) when broken rod is returned and the warranty fee covers the shipping back to consumer. Or they could do something like 33% off newest model.
Why not give the consumer the choice? Just please don't call it an Extended Warranty or I will never buy it and ask "Why do I need that, don't you think it's gonna hold up?"

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from clinchknot wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

Hornd,
It is not...don't you think it will hold up regarding the mfger. It is the fact the darn product is 9 ft. long, and can't be a Sharkespeare 'Ugly stick" if you want it virtually indestructible. They are finely made instruments that are light wt. and thin at the tip especially. Think of all the abuses the mfger expects to have happen. Guys clomping around a boat, I've seen rod tips extended off the bed of a P/U going down a chuck hole road. Overloading a rod on snags expecting the rod to win the battle against an 8 lb or better tippet, or line. Car doors, house pets destroying them, and many other ways you can think of. YOu do have a good idea...you buy the policy, or not, and purchase the rod at the fair price.

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from BackRoad600 wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

I like warranties...I tend to break things accidentally,and not just fishing stuff. don't ask why, because I might have to admit that I'm sometimes careless...

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from Koldkut wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

It seems to sink in when I say that you buy a car and drive it off the lot and hit a lightpole, they have to replace your car? I agree that warranties are overinflated here, folks should take better care of their gear.

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from scooterg10 wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

I don't think many people are going to be willing to drop $800+ on a fragile, luxury product without some sort of insurance. I believe the fly rod companies are going to have to offer something to sell the high end rods. If moral hazard is such a big problem, raise the deductible- make it more expensive for someone to abuse their rod. Besides, in the one in three example, I doubt most rods are completely replaced when broken. Most of the time I would guess the company simply replaces the broken section. This makes it hard for me to believe you would really see a 25% drop in prices.

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from clinchknot wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

It is labor time as well. An employee has to receive the broken rod, open it, take care of the repair, repackage it, and send it off...time is money. I see more, and more rods exiting the country, and built oversees, and their conditions of purchase.

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from clinchknot wrote 1 year 26 weeks ago

And in Alaska?....land of the broken sports rods. I guided in Alaska, and rods broke like preparing kindling for the fire.

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from PSEarcher33 wrote 1 year 15 weeks ago

I agree It seems like most fly rod warranties are going away. I think we should have the choice to add the warranty to the rod or not. If im buying a more expensive rod im going to put a warranty on it but if its just a cheap rod no I dont want to pay the extra for the warranty. They should start offering store warranties that you can pay for and giving you options on how many years of warrant you can pay for.

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