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March 18, 2013

Gas and Oil Drilling: Prime CO Trout Watersheds Under Threat

By Tim Romano

I recently asked for your help saving my beloved Colorado River, now I need to tell you about a situation in the area known as the Thompson Divide just west of Aspen, CO. The home to some pristine Colorado River Cutthroat Trout watersheds, as well as one of the most productive elk habitats in the state, is under threat from oil and gas interests that want to drill in the area. As you can see on the map above, the industry is creeping closer and closer.

Our own governor says this is a bad idea, but really has no authority to stop it as the BLM (a federal agency) issues the permits to drill there.  

- A few facts about the area know as the Thompson Divide:

- There are nearly a dozen conservation populations of Colorado River cutthroat trout in the area.

- Several of the recent Applications for Permit to Drill are right in the heart of the very best of these trout populations (Middle Thompson Creek). “Middle Thompson Creek is especially noteworthy because of the large, isolated population that exists without invasive non-native trout near Middle Thompson Park.

- The Thompson Divide contains tributaries to the North Fork of the Gunnison River, the Crystal River, the Colorado River and the Roaring Fork River. A vast majority of the Thompson drains into the Roaring Fork (Gold Medal water).

- It contains 3 of the premier big game hunting units in the state (42, 43, 521). Over 5000 tags are sold each year for these units, not including unlimited bull licenses, which likely put the number near 10,000.

Now, here's how you can help.  

Colorado's Senator Bennet unveiled the “Thompson Divide Withdrawal and Protection Act” but he has not yet introduced it. The powers that be are trying to get him to introduce it by sending him letters and emails. His address is:  458 Russell Senate Office Building, Washington D.C. 20510, and one can email him here. You can view the bill in it's entirety here (it's short - just read it).  

Lastly, get involved online via the website and www.facebook.com/sportsmenforthompsondivide " target="_blank">Facebook page.  

Thanks folks.

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from clinchknot wrote 1 year 4 weeks ago

Prime fishing locations all around the country are being threatened because of the administration's policy of limited oil and gas drilling. The ave. Joe workin stiff is being eliminated by high energy costs, and inflation.

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from Todd Tanner wrote 1 year 4 weeks ago

Thanks, Tim. Keep up the good work. Anglers (and hunters) are getting the short end of the stick - again. If enough of us speak up, maybe special places like the Thompson Divide will be spared from the rush to drill & frack every square inch of public land.

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from Rhythm Rider wrote 1 year 4 weeks ago

I don't know the answer here, and i'll lay my bias on the table...I sell equipment to oil and gas producers, processors, and other mining interest. They're not simply all evil, and most are concerned with doing what's right. That said, there are plenty of schmucks too that care little. Mostly they do the right thing.

Best example I see is the Green River in WY and UT. it's headwaters have been exploited with Hydraulic Fracturing over a decade now (johah field, pinedale anticline) and the Green River above flaming gorge fishes like a champ still (I fish Seedskadee NWR often). There's been no impact to Flaming Gorge reservoir (ling and Million's pipeline are bigger threat) or the tailwaters to the GR by frack'ing either.

That said, I'm still nervous to see the impact, but I don't think it's an all or nothing solution here. Just my dumb opinion....I could be very wrong.

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from clinchknot wrote 1 year 4 weeks ago

Id doubt if you are wrong. Democrat Gov. back East supported fracking for all the jobs that were created, and much needed tax revenue getting states out of debt. And the far left, that emphatically took the position that fracking was polluting the ground water, had to recind their views given the scientific evidence.

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from rfleer87 wrote 1 year 4 weeks ago

This country is turning more to the wrong side because they say we are running out of oil. We all know that there is plenty of oil and gas to keep this country moving forward. They just want that gas and oil to make money.

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from clinchknot wrote 1 year 4 weeks ago

"Want that gas an oil to make money?" What is wrong with making money? And they want to restrict natural gas and oil driving up the price, and making their corrupt green energy policy competitive with fossil fuels.

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from Sasha Kneselac wrote 1 year 4 weeks ago

"corrupt green energy policy"...not denying there is corruption, name me a business where there isn't any, but to even insinuate that it is somehow more corrupt than the fossil fuel industry is just plain wrong...the next time we start a war in order to build and place more wind turbines we can talk....As far as making money, of course there is nothing wrong with it, but do it responsibly and with some consideration of your fellow human being and the planet we live on...

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from clinchknot wrote 1 year 4 weeks ago

There are many, many co.'s that are OWNED by Ave. Joe workin stiffs called Stockholders for your info that are not corrupt. If they are they get caught,and severely punished. Green Energy has been corrupt from the getgo. Rich Obama contributors given tax payer money as heads of these co.'s, and then the company goes bankrupt, and the money isn't returned. Spain told Obama they were giving up on their Green Energy policy because for every ONE job the govt created TWO were lost in the private sector because of it. Germany has now given up on their green energy policy. It was a scam ever since Al Gore pushed the notion that man caused global warming. And Gore made millions off of the scam. And you say, "What company isn't corrupt? There are millions of stockholders that beg to differ with that erroneous statement.

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from Sasha Kneselac wrote 1 year 4 weeks ago

Who said anything about companies? I clearly said business, and from the context in which I placed it is pretty obvious the I meant it as a general field of business...i.e. energy, automotive, healthcare...etc.... it would be an insane statement to say all companies are corrupt and even more insane from me to ask you to actually name the specific company....Second, germany and spain are EU nations, and the green policy is dictated by the EU which has not given up on green energy by any means. The green energy field is as corrupt as people want it to be, it is not inherit in the nature of the business (field), it is a business like any other. Since it is a young business there is plenty of corruption, just look at any new field, from oil to banking at the turn of the last century. Capitalism naturally propagates the idea of a monopoly and everyone wants their piece of the pie. The problem, and I will agree with you, is the government involvement, any time government does this there is a money grab...just look at healthcare. That said, there are plenty of GREEN companies and businesses owned by "average Joe's" that are not corrupt...from low water toilet tanks, to solar panel installation, to organic farms to fishing outfits (both recreational and commercial) that embrace the green mantra in order to preserve their livelihood and the planet...next time try reading things within the context they are presented in...

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from clinchknot wrote 1 year 4 weeks ago

Same thing. General field of business is not dishonest. If they are they don't last in business. Bad PR kills business. Germany just stated the fact in the paper...they are giving up on Green Energy. Spain gave up years ago. When private industry develops green energy based on making a profit, and not big govt waisting tax payer money in a corrupt way, green energy will be successful. The biggest contributor to green energy is BIG OIL! BIG OIL, the business that liberals attack. You are so obvious in your anti-capitalist position that gets forwarded by the left. "Business is corrupt, business caused the problems, business doesn't pay their fair share, and thus the need for big govt to interfer.

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from Sasha Kneselac wrote 1 year 4 weeks ago

Do you even read my posts?... General idea of business as business might not be corrupt in its essence but does leave a lot of room for people to be corrupt and dishonest...sports in essence are not corrupt and dishonest but competitive nature makes dishonesty (steroid use...etc) a fact...this is not liberal propaganda, it is reality...I simply asked a question, name me area or field of business with or without government involvement where corruption and dishonesty have not taken root....As for big oil and green energy, of course, they realize that in order to compete in the future they will have to invest heavily in the future of energy, and that future is GREEN....they are not stupid enough to put all their eggs in one basket. As for the government, I do agree that gov involvement is a hinderance to many initiatives but sometimes in order to get started we need someone to start it, big business wasn't doing much...in fact they were more than happy to outsource green technology to china in order to increase their profits and now everyone is scratching their head as to why green tech is failing in this country...the market is flooded with cheap green tech coming from the east ruining US based manufacturers... of course, if you have a vested interest in outsourcing all our production to China in order to make a profit for a select few then so be it...I would like to see more gov involvement and restriction when it comes to getting products from the east, something all parties and administrations from Nixon onward have failed to do....

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from clinchknot wrote 1 year 4 weeks ago

You do understand my understanding the tone of your posts do you not...competition results in evil etc. etc. The foundation of your tone is liberalism, and trying to justify it. What you are really saying is people are basically dishonest. The human fraility thing. But lets look at this theme of mining, or oil drilling, or NG drilling as ruining watersheds. Lots of money has been spent fighting the Alaska mining effort in the upper Kuijak(sp) Lake Illiamna area...can't think of the name for that mining effort right now. It has been portrayed as destroying that huge salmon run watershed. I guided fishermen in that area. When the facts were known, and I dug them up in the insuiing debate, the govts own task force determined that the odds of the mining effort adversely effecting the salmon runs was 10,000 to ONE that it would effect the salmon runs!!! Now considering all the jobs that would be created, would you not think 10,000 to ONE is worth the risk?...yet liberals/environmentalists are fight it.

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from wisc14 wrote 1 year 4 weeks ago

thanks for letting us know about this and keep us updated.

however i will say when it comes to conservation issues this website does have a western bias. i haven't heard anything about the changes in mining regulations signed by gov walker is wisconsin. these regulation will allow the mining company to fill in navigable waters (trout streams) among many other things dealing with ground water. the iron mine will also be the largest in the world. there are some very good trout streams in the area that will be affected and one that may just disappear

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from clinchknot wrote 1 year 4 weeks ago

wisc. 14. I would bet if I contacted Gov. Walker's office they would validate that what you are saying is untrue. No one would want to pollute the ground water, or fill in a navigable stream period unless it was a terrorist.

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from Aaron L wrote 1 year 3 weeks ago

So what IS the threat. Just like most uneducated statements about the oil field here is another. I fish, I am an environmentalist, and I do care what happens to our planet. But something most hypocrites don't want to admit to, I also drive a vehicle to get me to the fishing hole. Also think about this. Starting tomorrow, walk to work and everywhere else you usually drive to. Stop wearing cloths and eating because both of those are produced using petroleum products. This article is nothing more than liberal nonsense trying to scare people into doing what the lame writer wants. Call me if you ever start practicing what you are preaching.

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from Todd Tanner wrote 1 year 4 weeks ago

Thanks, Tim. Keep up the good work. Anglers (and hunters) are getting the short end of the stick - again. If enough of us speak up, maybe special places like the Thompson Divide will be spared from the rush to drill & frack every square inch of public land.

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from clinchknot wrote 1 year 4 weeks ago

There are many, many co.'s that are OWNED by Ave. Joe workin stiffs called Stockholders for your info that are not corrupt. If they are they get caught,and severely punished. Green Energy has been corrupt from the getgo. Rich Obama contributors given tax payer money as heads of these co.'s, and then the company goes bankrupt, and the money isn't returned. Spain told Obama they were giving up on their Green Energy policy because for every ONE job the govt created TWO were lost in the private sector because of it. Germany has now given up on their green energy policy. It was a scam ever since Al Gore pushed the notion that man caused global warming. And Gore made millions off of the scam. And you say, "What company isn't corrupt? There are millions of stockholders that beg to differ with that erroneous statement.

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from rfleer87 wrote 1 year 4 weeks ago

This country is turning more to the wrong side because they say we are running out of oil. We all know that there is plenty of oil and gas to keep this country moving forward. They just want that gas and oil to make money.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from clinchknot wrote 1 year 4 weeks ago

"Want that gas an oil to make money?" What is wrong with making money? And they want to restrict natural gas and oil driving up the price, and making their corrupt green energy policy competitive with fossil fuels.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Sasha Kneselac wrote 1 year 4 weeks ago

Do you even read my posts?... General idea of business as business might not be corrupt in its essence but does leave a lot of room for people to be corrupt and dishonest...sports in essence are not corrupt and dishonest but competitive nature makes dishonesty (steroid use...etc) a fact...this is not liberal propaganda, it is reality...I simply asked a question, name me area or field of business with or without government involvement where corruption and dishonesty have not taken root....As for big oil and green energy, of course, they realize that in order to compete in the future they will have to invest heavily in the future of energy, and that future is GREEN....they are not stupid enough to put all their eggs in one basket. As for the government, I do agree that gov involvement is a hinderance to many initiatives but sometimes in order to get started we need someone to start it, big business wasn't doing much...in fact they were more than happy to outsource green technology to china in order to increase their profits and now everyone is scratching their head as to why green tech is failing in this country...the market is flooded with cheap green tech coming from the east ruining US based manufacturers... of course, if you have a vested interest in outsourcing all our production to China in order to make a profit for a select few then so be it...I would like to see more gov involvement and restriction when it comes to getting products from the east, something all parties and administrations from Nixon onward have failed to do....

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from wisc14 wrote 1 year 4 weeks ago

thanks for letting us know about this and keep us updated.

however i will say when it comes to conservation issues this website does have a western bias. i haven't heard anything about the changes in mining regulations signed by gov walker is wisconsin. these regulation will allow the mining company to fill in navigable waters (trout streams) among many other things dealing with ground water. the iron mine will also be the largest in the world. there are some very good trout streams in the area that will be affected and one that may just disappear

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Rhythm Rider wrote 1 year 4 weeks ago

I don't know the answer here, and i'll lay my bias on the table...I sell equipment to oil and gas producers, processors, and other mining interest. They're not simply all evil, and most are concerned with doing what's right. That said, there are plenty of schmucks too that care little. Mostly they do the right thing.

Best example I see is the Green River in WY and UT. it's headwaters have been exploited with Hydraulic Fracturing over a decade now (johah field, pinedale anticline) and the Green River above flaming gorge fishes like a champ still (I fish Seedskadee NWR often). There's been no impact to Flaming Gorge reservoir (ling and Million's pipeline are bigger threat) or the tailwaters to the GR by frack'ing either.

That said, I'm still nervous to see the impact, but I don't think it's an all or nothing solution here. Just my dumb opinion....I could be very wrong.

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from Sasha Kneselac wrote 1 year 4 weeks ago

Who said anything about companies? I clearly said business, and from the context in which I placed it is pretty obvious the I meant it as a general field of business...i.e. energy, automotive, healthcare...etc.... it would be an insane statement to say all companies are corrupt and even more insane from me to ask you to actually name the specific company....Second, germany and spain are EU nations, and the green policy is dictated by the EU which has not given up on green energy by any means. The green energy field is as corrupt as people want it to be, it is not inherit in the nature of the business (field), it is a business like any other. Since it is a young business there is plenty of corruption, just look at any new field, from oil to banking at the turn of the last century. Capitalism naturally propagates the idea of a monopoly and everyone wants their piece of the pie. The problem, and I will agree with you, is the government involvement, any time government does this there is a money grab...just look at healthcare. That said, there are plenty of GREEN companies and businesses owned by "average Joe's" that are not corrupt...from low water toilet tanks, to solar panel installation, to organic farms to fishing outfits (both recreational and commercial) that embrace the green mantra in order to preserve their livelihood and the planet...next time try reading things within the context they are presented in...

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from Aaron L wrote 1 year 3 weeks ago

So what IS the threat. Just like most uneducated statements about the oil field here is another. I fish, I am an environmentalist, and I do care what happens to our planet. But something most hypocrites don't want to admit to, I also drive a vehicle to get me to the fishing hole. Also think about this. Starting tomorrow, walk to work and everywhere else you usually drive to. Stop wearing cloths and eating because both of those are produced using petroleum products. This article is nothing more than liberal nonsense trying to scare people into doing what the lame writer wants. Call me if you ever start practicing what you are preaching.

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from clinchknot wrote 1 year 4 weeks ago

Id doubt if you are wrong. Democrat Gov. back East supported fracking for all the jobs that were created, and much needed tax revenue getting states out of debt. And the far left, that emphatically took the position that fracking was polluting the ground water, had to recind their views given the scientific evidence.

-1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Sasha Kneselac wrote 1 year 4 weeks ago

"corrupt green energy policy"...not denying there is corruption, name me a business where there isn't any, but to even insinuate that it is somehow more corrupt than the fossil fuel industry is just plain wrong...the next time we start a war in order to build and place more wind turbines we can talk....As far as making money, of course there is nothing wrong with it, but do it responsibly and with some consideration of your fellow human being and the planet we live on...

-1 Good Comment? | | Report
from clinchknot wrote 1 year 4 weeks ago

Same thing. General field of business is not dishonest. If they are they don't last in business. Bad PR kills business. Germany just stated the fact in the paper...they are giving up on Green Energy. Spain gave up years ago. When private industry develops green energy based on making a profit, and not big govt waisting tax payer money in a corrupt way, green energy will be successful. The biggest contributor to green energy is BIG OIL! BIG OIL, the business that liberals attack. You are so obvious in your anti-capitalist position that gets forwarded by the left. "Business is corrupt, business caused the problems, business doesn't pay their fair share, and thus the need for big govt to interfer.

-1 Good Comment? | | Report
from clinchknot wrote 1 year 4 weeks ago

You do understand my understanding the tone of your posts do you not...competition results in evil etc. etc. The foundation of your tone is liberalism, and trying to justify it. What you are really saying is people are basically dishonest. The human fraility thing. But lets look at this theme of mining, or oil drilling, or NG drilling as ruining watersheds. Lots of money has been spent fighting the Alaska mining effort in the upper Kuijak(sp) Lake Illiamna area...can't think of the name for that mining effort right now. It has been portrayed as destroying that huge salmon run watershed. I guided fishermen in that area. When the facts were known, and I dug them up in the insuiing debate, the govts own task force determined that the odds of the mining effort adversely effecting the salmon runs was 10,000 to ONE that it would effect the salmon runs!!! Now considering all the jobs that would be created, would you not think 10,000 to ONE is worth the risk?...yet liberals/environmentalists are fight it.

-1 Good Comment? | | Report
from clinchknot wrote 1 year 4 weeks ago

wisc. 14. I would bet if I contacted Gov. Walker's office they would validate that what you are saying is untrue. No one would want to pollute the ground water, or fill in a navigable stream period unless it was a terrorist.

-1 Good Comment? | | Report
from clinchknot wrote 1 year 4 weeks ago

Prime fishing locations all around the country are being threatened because of the administration's policy of limited oil and gas drilling. The ave. Joe workin stiff is being eliminated by high energy costs, and inflation.

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