


April 23, 2009
Petzal: Passing Things Along
By David E. Petzal
Recently, I got a package from an old friend in Montana who was diagnosed with lung cancer, which now is in his brain, and he counts every new day as a gift. In the package was a 40-year-old Kabar hunting knife that had belonged to the late Norm Strung. Norm showed him, and me, a lot of what hunting was about before he checked out. The knife was originally Norm’s and he lost it on a mountain top while gutting an elk in deep snow. He told my friend that if he should happen to find it he could have it, and after the Karbar lay there all winter, that’s what happened. I have it now, and I sometimes wonder who I will give it to.
A little while ago, I had gotten a deer down, and the guide and I were waiting for a second guide to show up and help us get the critter out. He pointed to the rangefinder on his belt, and told me that it had belonged to a client whom he took on his last hunt. The client, once a big, powerful man, had been reduced to a skeleton by cancer and had only a few weeks left.
“He was one of the best men I’ve ever known,” said the guide, “and I always carry this and tell this story every chance I get.”
There was a pause, and he said “Excuse me. I think I hear Trevor coming.” Then he stood up and walked quickly uphill to meet his colleague. At least I think that’s why he walked away so fast.
Comments (52)
Sorry to hear about your friend. Quite incredible that he found the Kabar after a winter in deep snow. Also, assuming that it is still in good condition, that shows what a good knife it is. As for the guide... a rangefinder is a pretty nice gift to get from a client that he took on a hunt. Must have had a really good impression on him, or maybe friends. The story does not say... but, they must of hit it off.
I plan on giving useful things to folks who can appreciate and use them, otherwise they'll just end up in an attic or pawn shop.
Many years ago, My Father was talking about his old guns. He said he wanted each of the family men to get one. He knew I like his old Mossberg, but I really liked it because it was his favorite.
During this talk I told him that if he had to die for me to get it, then I never wanted it. Some weeks later, while visiting, he handed it to me.
He lived for years after that. When he died, and his sons from a previous marriage showed up to paw through whatever they could get, some of the pain was helped that I didn't feel I acted as the vultures.
I shoot and clean that same shotgun, and keep it for my son, and his son, who hopefully will continue this.
My wife is the only one who knew this story before now.
I have 2 firearms that will be passed to my son or hopefully a grandson or grandaughter one day. First is a .38 S&W revolver that my grandfather carried as chief deputy sheriff during the Depression (the first one !) and later as head of security for a factory during WWII. He told my dad that it was never fired in anger, but don't be afraid to use it if necessary.
The other is a CZ-27 7.65mm automatic with Nazi stampings that my uncle brought back from Germany after WWII. It is still like new. He gave it to me before he passed away since he knew his son who lived in New York City would get rid of it immediately since he is an anti and a liberal wuss. I also have a Mauser 98 that he gave me that I have offered to his grandson, but has declined it since he is even more liberal and lives in Canada.
When I come closer to the end of my hunting days, I plan to start my pass along early so they go to the person I want, not some estate sale.
Mr. Strung was a helluva writer, interesting and down to earth. For someone to be able to write and relate the way he did he must have been an outdoorsman of the same caliber. Be honored to hold that K-Bar Dave.
I'm getting to the age where I am aware of my own mortality, an age group in which a lot of folks begin to check out, including Mr Strung. Each of my friends and selected family members will get something from me when when check out time is imminent. I too do not wish to be the center of a feeding frenzy or the cause of bad feelings when the probate judge does his or her job.
My dad hunts with a pre-64 'rifleman's rifle' he got from his dad, and will hopefully pass to me. True it's a great shooter and the quintessential bolt-action, but it's more the sentimentality that draws me too it. Imagine the stories of adventure and camaraderie some old guns out there could tell.
You are right Beekeeper, we all need to have a good will. This is a good quote from another blog, "My greatest fear is that my wife will sell my bows for what I told her I paid for them instead of what they are worth".
My Dad didn't have many material things to pass on to me. He did pass on the love of family, Love of other people, the outdoors, and hunting. Pretty much in that order. Couldn't ask for more.
Great story. I treasure everything I rec'd from my Grandfather in 1976 when he passed away. Him and I were the only ones in the family with a passion for the outdoors so we connected differently. I wish I had spent more time with him but when you are young you don't think like that. I often walk the woods holding his gun or wade a stream with one of his fly rods and wonder if we are sharing the same feelings and emotions spawned by the chase.
On the flip side, my grandmother on my mothers side gave everything away when she turned 75 thinking she wouldn't be around much longer. She's 104 years old now and I often ask her if she wants it back. :)
Great story. I treasure everything I rec'd from my Grandfather in 1976 when he passed away. Him and I were the only ones in the family with a passion for the outdoors so we connected differently. I wish I had spent more time with him but when you are young you don't think like that. I often walk the woods holding his gun or wade a stream with one of his fly rods and wonder if we are sharing the same feelings and emotions spawned by the chase.
On the flip side, my grandmother on my mothers side gave everything away when she turned 75 thinking she wouldn't be around much longer. She's 104 years old now and I often ask her if she wants it back. :)
Many years ago my best friend's father owned a Marlin model 46m .22 bolt action rifle. His Dad (who I was very close to) hadn't hunted or shot in years and I asked him if he wanted to sell it. He said no, that he might "get into" hunting and shooting again so I said thanks anyway and never thought about it again.
Some years later, my friend's Dad passed away. A few days after that, my friend's Mom called me to her house and handed me that rifle. She told me how my friend's Dad thought alot of me and how he wanted her to be sure that Mossberg ended up with me.
I've shot thousands of rounds through it and my 11 year old son and 8 year old daughter have both learned to shoot with it as well. Any while it's not a "petzal quality" rifle to me it's worth more than any amount of money or the finest .22 a man could buy.
Jim
I have my dad's old Winchester model 50 shotgun and a Kabar that went thru WWII with his cousin. Somehow there's a conection when you hold a gun or knife that your deceased loved one held and hunted with. I rarely use them for fear of loss or damage and my son probably has no use for them. Probably will just give them to a friend some day.
The most cherished hand me downs in my family are the ones that have to do with hunting and fishing. Most of the items named in my will are guns/knifes/mounts etc.. that I want to go to certain friends and family members. I have my Grandpas 1897 Winchester in a display case with pictures of him holding it with game he took dating back to the 30's, if my house was on fire, after my kids it would be the first thing I saved.
Back in the late '70s we were a family of Arizona transplants living in Idaho. I was the only one in the family born there, hence the name. My dad had friends that hunted an bought a couple of deer rifles. I don't even remember what they were. He sold them when he lost his job and had to buy food for us kids. He never go to hand them down to my brothers and I, but I won't soon forget the sacrafice. He never hunted again. I never hunted with him. I'm doing my best to hunt with my son and will pass everything on to him and let him distribute it to grandkids, etc. I have no plans on selling anything, but if I do, either way I pass on a legacy.
Spud
I love it when someone causes a compunction, a pricking of the mind, that causes us to place life on pause, to reflect and commit, to manifesting and evoking love and affection.
Trevor may have been coming, but I think a part of the guide was about to appear ... tears from the magnitude of his sorrow.
Just as the client gave the guide something that he treasured,something from the heart,something far greater ... time treasured and valued friendship.
The part of a mans heart where the beauty is, where
life seems little more than a matter of struggle and endurance, when difficulty and disappointment form a crust around a mans heart ... yet there is a place that is unprotected that beauty can always reach out and touch!
Norm valued your passing friend, he valued you Dave,time treasured,valued friend.
Tears flooded the keyboard as I read this article.
I was reminded of the passing of my father, October 10th,1973, the day I quit working for him.
It was the end of the summer and construction work (dry wall) was slowing down. I had a new born, and got hired by a government firm, and on my first day I got the call at 9:30am.
My wife called me, and said that my dad had come to pick me up to go to work, and had a disappointed look as he was told I got a new job.
He left and went to a brother-in-laws house and ended up on the wrong side of a gun. Dead instantly, closed casket. I never got to see or hear him again ... all I wanted was his dry wall hammer.
Never got it, but the memories are beginning to come out of this 'ol crusted heart of mine.
The hardest part?
I only told him once that I loved him, in a letter, while I was in the military.
After typing this, and going through a whole array of emotions, there won't be a probate court. I'm giving away the reminders of the treasured time I have spent with family and friends, and my love for them, while I'm still alive. While I can look them in the eyes and hug them a little closer.
As I look into my rangefinder, I can see the next horizon of my life. I have a lttle longer to live on this journey, thanks be to God, and I'll be sure to make the most of it.
Dave,reach out and touch someone with the beauty of the Kabar,and what it truly means, to someone who will treasure and cherish it, just as you have, and thanks for waking something up inside of me ...finding and celebrating, the treasures in life and death.
Jeff4066,
That's a nice story. I had the same sort of situation when father passed. Luckily I had his 30-06 at my house because i had been hunting with it some the season before he passed. I also have three deer mounts that were his. Every time I look at those mounts it reminds me of those hunts because we were hunting together for every one of them. Couldn't think of a better reminder to have!
Dave-
My prayers go out to the family of your Friend; A bumber sticker I saw recently stated,"CANCER SUCKS" is about the best way I can phrase my thoughts about it. Our family has been hurt by this monster in the past as well. And like some of you here, death really brings out the worst in people's greedy ways.
I have items from father-in-law given to me by his son for safe keeping, for most of the other family can't be trusted not to sell it! Sad, very sad...
At least you can treasure the knife as a lasting memory.
This reminds me of a little story in F&S about a guide who took a dying man on his last hunt. He had the time of his life there, and died just days after. These things are the definition of bittersweet.
To watch my lifelong Teacher, Hunting Buddy, Best Friend and the person I trusted most to succumb to cancer, I to can relate to David. For the past two seasons, the passenger seat he frequented is empty and silent as I go into the field or down town to get something. We enjoyed each others company and cherished each and every second.
To watch your best friend that is bigger than life and tuff as nails to watch them wither away in just months if not days and lay there paralyzed in agony until there last breath.
In my gun safe is a Remington Model 721 30-06 topped with an old Redfield Wide Field 3x9 and the rear sight was turned 180 to accommodate the scope. I remember watching him shoot great distances beyond other shooters.
The rifle belongs to me now
It belonged to my Father
The passenger seat that is empty?
My 9 year old grandson now occupies that seat!
My very best friend taught me to hunt like a gentleman, load my own ammo with the precision of a scientist, never to judge other, respect ladies and always love my family and my friends. My mentor was 67 years old when I met him and I was a very wet behind the ears 16. Laurice was the reason I love the outdoors and wildlife as much as I do. One day he gave the me the old fixed blade he carried whenever he left his house for any type of hunting or fishing trip. About two weeks later my friend died.The blade remains razor sharp, honed the way he taught me, on my hunting belt. I'm constantly reminded of Laurice and all the things he gave me whenever I use his most treasured gift.
Sad when our friends begin to die and we have to hide the tears. It makes you think about your own mortality and just how long you will be around... I'm spending more time in funeral homes than in the woods this month.
As for the hand me downs Dave you can send the Kabar to Tennessee if you want... I've got my dad's biggest buck on the wall and my father in law's too! I've got my wife's grandfather's shotgun and my grandfather's shotgun and pretty much all the hand me downs as I am the only one interested in dangerous politically incorrect behaviour like hunting and fishing. I think my boys will be fighting over the collection.
Ok I think I can see to type now. I am lucky in that no one in the family wanted any of the stuff from my grandpa "Big Daddy" that I did.
I have his old Winchester .22, a couple of Navy issue swiss army type knives, a bunch of old school tools and a collection of books on art, travel and every subject under the sun from metallurgy to mushrooms. While he was alive he taught me how to paddle a canoe, pitch a tent, build a fire, sharpen a knife, clean a northern, a weave a net and leave every campsite clean and with a bark shingled bundle of wood for the next arrival. There wasn't much he couldn't do. I cherish every moment that I spent with him. God I miss you Big Daddy and I wish we had had more time, can't see again gotta go.
Fellow bloggers,
You have said it all. I can only say that I, too, add to your thoughts about a special person who lived life to the fullest in Alaska. A dear friend, fellow pilot, avid hunter/fisherman, and partner in some business. Cancer is no way to go and the way we deal with it is no way to do so. To prolong someone's life with ever stronger doses of deadening drugs, for month after month, is no way to go when the end result is far too evident, rather than to let nature take it's course, or, God Forbid?? --to allow a man to die with dignity when no other course is left, is unconscionable. Should 'eating your gun' be the only recourse to dying with dignity?? Maybe the Inuit people knew far better than we. When the time came they took their people out on the ice to be immortalized forever in their home, the environment where they lived and from which they expected to leave this earth.
Given the time to consider it (which is something of a gift, depending on your psychological perspective or world view), you can choose who will receive the things you'll leave behind because - let's face it - you can't take it with you. Don't wait until you run out of time to consider these issues...who matters, what matters. My father wasn't a shooter, not really an outdoorsman at all. I've been able to share quality time and the shooting sports with my son, and I've asked him which of my rifles he admires most. I've made arrangements to set two rifles and their accessories aside for him. The disposition of other things has already been addressed in writing. Appreciate every moment of your life, and pick those with whom you share your time. Spend less time in front of the television, and more time in discussion over coffee or dinner. Take a stroll after dinner and enjoy a sunset. Learn something about a coworker or friend today by listening; you'll get your chance to talk. It's often a GIFT simply to listen. Treat every day of your life as though you were running out of time. I say these things from the perspective of 60+ years, and I understand the perspective of those who think they have more tomorrows than yesterdays, but I urge you not to take time for granted.
Great post Dave, especially in light of all this economic/political mess we are constantly bombarded with. We often take for granted how truly blessed we are, for so many reasons. Take advantage of the many simple pleasures of life.
My father passed away at age 78 last December. His absolute passion was whitetail hunting in Minnesota. He started hunting whitetails in 1940 and only missed seasons during his 4 year military stint during the Korean War. His health was failing terribly last November and we all assumed he would miss the deer season. We were wrong, he somehow mustered the strength to go. It was hard and I was worried - and now it is the memory that we all hold near and dear. His stories about the "old timers" he knew and hunted with in the 40's were something to hear. We will re-tell some of these many times in deer camps in years to come.
I now possess his Enfield 30-06 that he bought when he was 16, to hear him tell the story about that gun made you understand how proud he was of it. He moved on to a Remington Model 81 auto in .35 Remington, he called it "the club" and then to a Savage 99 in .300 Savage. His last gun was a Remington 7400. These guns all took their fair share of whitetails over the years. The Enfield has probably not been fired in 50 years.
I now own them, I plan on leaving my fancy pants Bolt actions at home until I take at least one deer with each of these rifles. Why? Can't quite put it into words but I'm guessing anyone reading this knows the reasons.
The call you never want came right after the end of a 12 hour workday in Alaska (1984). My sister said Daddy had a stroke and was in a Jacksonville, Florida hospital. The redeye flight got me there by the next morning. When I walked in the room it was obvious the end was near. The only thing he could move was his eyelids. Moments after entering the room I saw tears begin to run from the corner of his eyes-he knew his 3rd son was home from the far North.
I thank God often for allowing me to get there in time to tell the old man I loved him. It was him that bought my first gun and first fishing pole. Then he took me to the woods and lakes of Florida for the time(s) of my life. His last gun is in my care. Dad used that old model 50 Winchester and a load of buckshot to take his last deer. That gun isn't worth much to anyone but me.
well, since i really dont get out very much, and have no hunting buddies, i guess all of my stuff will go to my son and hopefully, daughter. she is very young, but i have already started her shooting. my son will be going hunting with me for the first time this year. i know he already has the bug.
Unless you were born in the South, you probably wouldn't know what a hunter's horn is. Made from a cow's horn, it had to be a certain size and curve. Meticulously scraped and polished with a mouthpiece carved into the horn, they were used to call the dogs during a hunt, call the kids to the house, or locate each other in the woods among other uses. My half-Irish half-Indian grandfathers horn hung on a peg (along with his Colt) next to the door. Given to me by my cousin, I am like Petzal, I don't know who to pass it on to....
Michael
Great topic Dave. I have the Marlin 30-30 336C I gave my dad for his birthday (Dec. 20th), and Christmas. He always had to borrow a rifle to go deer hunting, and I got tired of that. He only got to use it once. He died the next May. He had given me his Mossberg 20ga. bolt for Christmas when I was 12, the shotgun my mother's dad had given him.
His brother, my uncle, died four years ago and left me his Smith and Wesson 9mm. I have not shot it in a good while, but I will today. I seriously doubt I will be able to hit what I am shooting at due to blurry vision.
I will be passing them on as well as others to special people, with the hope that they will appreciate, use and care for them, and not just sell them.
All of the comments about treasured items that will be passed down, not sold, remind me of a quote I keep on a shelf in my office: "Measure your wealth not by what you have, but rather by what you have for which you would not take money".
Great comments, guys! But to answer Dave's question as to what to do with Norm's knife, I offer a suggestion. I have in front of me a book entitled "Communicating the Outdoor Experience", edited by Norm Strung, copyright 1975. In honor of Norm Strung and to the outdoor writer's craft, make this knife the revolving trophy for the recipient of the best yearly writer chosen by the Outdoor Writer's Association of America, with Dave making the presentation.
Being the only boy among my siblings, I inherited the family arsenal which is probably half of my present collection of a couple dozen. Each weapon has its own story and sentimental value = the Colt Police Positive in .38 Short that my grandfather, Ciruit Judge over three West Virginia counties carried in his suit coat pocket in the 1910's - '40's. The percussion lock shotgun he cobbled together as a boy in the 1880's out of civil war musket scraps. The Yeager Rifle that somehow found its way from Germany to Ireland then into the trunk of a 16 year old girl who was shipped off to America. Her parents sent her off fearing she might otherwise be destined for the same fate that her brothers faced in mid-1800's Ireland -- to be shipped to Australian penal colonies. She became my Great Grandmother. Settling in Washington DC, the rifle was always at the ready during the War between the States.
As far as the family arsenal goes, I'll be passing on more than wood and metal to my kids. As long as the guns remain in the family, there will be generational connections to our family heritage.
My father took his own life about 20 years ago after a long battle with Parkinsons Disease. Just couldn't handle not being able to hunt anymore. He left me a pre64 Model 70 featherweight. In the meantime I have managed to aquire quite a few more. I am married but we have no children and I have but two really close hunting buddies. Nobody in the immediate family has much interest in the outdoors. I am only 40 but my health is failing also. It has really been bothering me as to what to do with these guns. I want somebody to have them that will use and cherish them as much as I have. What to do?
My Father and late brother left me some beautiful rifles and a single shot 16 gauge Stevens with a patina that is best described as rust. My first time skeet shooting was with that "Farmer's gun" as Dad called it. I was 10 or so and that beast kicked so bad I don't know why I shot a second time. That farmer's gun means as much to me as the premium rifles from my Dad, brother, and my uncle. It is a portal in time to when they were still alive and next to me eating the lunch my Mom made for all of us.
My Father never carried me hunting. But one Thanksgiving day a couple neighbors invited him and me I was l4 to go Rabbit hunting. That was the only time my Dad and i everhunted period. I was the only boy in our family of 5 and for some reason I loved the outdoors and hunting and guns. I have collected quite a number of high dollar firearms over my 73 ys. I have one Son and a FDaghtetr, both love hunting. My Son and I have hunted every fall for 40 odd years. My firearms will go to my Son except 4 that i plan to leave for my Daughter who loves w-tail hunting. I had a Uncle who I derly Loved and I wa sick in l945 and he brought me a MARBLES sheath knife. I carried that knife for 30 yrs or more then feared i might loose it. So, i put it in the safe and bought a new Marbles when they begun production a few years back. That knife my Uncle gave me when I was l0 yrs old is worth more to me than the Denver mint. It goes to my Son or my first Grandson. In my Dads will, he instructed that no estate sale was to be, that my two sisters and I were to divide and share. Now I have one sister left and heaven forbit when we settle his estate as my Mother who is 94 is yet alive an healthy. How I wish my Dad had been hunting with memor, but his interest was Horses not hunting. I look forward to hunting season each year as i know My Son and will be hunting everey chance we get. Two years ago we both killed a nice Buck on the same day about l5 minutes apart. Then this past year we both killed a 9 and a 8 pointer about 10 minutes befoe drk on opening day of B/Pseason. For Christmas he had a Magazine cover type picture made up with both of us and our deer, my most treasured gift ever since that Marbles knife. Most of us know or think we know when we are near the end and i want thoe last days to be spent in the woods. I told my Pastor I wanted to live to be 92????9(why I chose that #) and be found sitting on my hunting stool beside a tree wth my 06 in my hand wih a smile on my face.I have one request left to fill and that is for my Son and I to go to the Rockies together and he get him a nice Elk like mine. Hopefully we can arrange that while i'm able to travel.I've have the opportunity to hunt the Rockies many times and killed the game I wanted, and meet many new firends Most all the game I've taken and mounted on my Den Wall.Wealth is not the amount of $$$$ you have and leave behind, but the special places you went and the endless memories left behind. Shoot-um-straigh and very often. A old Southern Country Boy, who will be in the woods in the Am for that old Tom.
Gunslinger,
I hope ol' Tom struts his stuff about 20 yards right out in front of you about 0730!
Good Luck!
WMH
When the time is right, the right person for the Kabar will be there, and you'll know.
cliff88,
The answers obvious.
WAMtnhunter Thanks: Did not go hunting this Am as was not up to par, but hopefully Monday i can go. Hunting seasons are to far apart for me now. Days i wish I lived in a area where could hunt 24/7. I envy the guys out west they have so much game to hunt and able to hunt most of the year. But suppose if could do so doubt would enjoy as I do now. Most guys/ladies all have a special hobby, me its my guns and hunting. Suppose if owned one of each firerm made i'd want more. With the many I have, I only use about 4 on a regular bases. Those just jump out to me when I open the safes. But, confidence in those 4 I feel is the reason I choose them. I will try the new Marlin XL7 in 270 come fall. Never owned a 270 prior or even shot one. So i expect great results on w-tails here on the farm come November.Kinda funny to me, when hunting season is in I can hop out of bed t 4 Am and thrilled to get dressed and in the woods, then when season is over i sleep till 9 or so.Suppose that tells all where my priorities lie. There is so much to see and enjoy in the great outdoors even if your eat your tags.I am in HOG heaven when in the rockies at l0-12K feet and just look out over the wonders our good Lord provided for us. I expect my wife and I have made near 5.000 phots of the rockies and here. I can enjoy chipmonks play all day and contended. Too bad when was younger and good health I never had the $$$ or the time to go hunting to the places that I would like to hunt. But for the past 25 years have made up some of the lost time. Just pray I have many falls left to enjoy what I am able to do,. At present a nice oldtom is my goal, hopefully come next week will fill that tag. We are short on Turkeys here this spring and not many to be found. But do have a flock that passes by ever few days. Got plenty of w-tails this year and a spotted deer i got my eye set for. Son killed one last year. O I could go on and on , but you guys have other things to read about. Shoot-um-straight and often. Prepare to give that special item to whom-ever you have in mind. Don't wait till you are gone , do it now. Good hunting to all.
Gunslinger
I hope you find even a "young" tom!
I have been thinking about gifting some of my guns to young 'uns who might need them soon. I think I will ask my son which 3 or 5 or whatever guns he really wants sometime soon. I know there are a few that he would have little interest in, but I would hate to give one away that he had his heart set on. Like my dad who sold the '66 Mustang that I wanted to buy!
WMH
Family guns...the heart of a good blog topic, so thank you Dave.
Few in here seem to mention muzzleloaders in their catalog of firearms to hand down...but, they should be included, too. After all, some of them are a good deal older, and represent a lot more desperation in the hands of our forefathers. Like...Great Granddad's Tennessee rifle, with double-set triggers; the 1973 Winchester, from Indian territory; the plains rifle rebored by Russ Carpenter; the 1862 Springfield musket...and so forth.
I think we all agree that these kinds of gifts are not for everyone, or just any of our kids and relatives. They may belong in a good friend's hands...or a young shooter's closet. I have seen family guns given away to unappreciative youngsters, or hung on nails on the wall, forgotten, and neglected. One of my daughters has urged that I write down the stories behind the family guns, so that whoever gets them, the heritage will accompany the gift.
Good idea. Nice blog idea...enjoyed the trip.
Blue
Make that an 1873 Winchester, thank you....
Blue
True story: Some years back I went to a Estate sale that advertised a Parker s x s 20 ga. That was all I was interested in. I started the bid at 500.00 bucks (gun was as NIB. A young fellow raised to 550.00 and we continued this process for several bids. I finally asked a guy beside me who the young kid was and he said the man who owned this farm and that gun was his Grandpa's and he had promished his grandson the Parker, but the family would not do so and insisted it be sold.I went over to the young man and appolizided for my bidding.Had i know the story would not have bid. I told the young boy , about l8-20 ys old ( I had the last bid) that had I know would not have increased any bid. Told him to bid 5 bucks more and the gun was his as far as i was involved. So the kid did so and the gun went to him. After the sale he came to me and let me hold/see the gun and told me thanks for allowing him to own what grandpa promished. So if you got a specal gun for a special person, give it to him while you around, as most families are greedy and want every dime they can get. I never have gotten a Parker 20 but did find a excellent Fox in 16 ga s x s and a Rabbit ear Wesley C Scott l2 ga s x s. . Now hopefully can use the Fox and kill my Tom this week. Shoot-um-straight and often.
Wingshooter54,
My father had one of those old cow horns you mentioned. An old timer even older than dad made it for him many years ago. Glad you mentioned it because I don't know which sibling has it but will try to find out. Dad's horn in particular was rather difficult to blow. Even the mouthpiece was hand carved. I've seen many with a metal mouthpiece added that was easier to blow.
The first memory I have of my Grandpa was at the age of 5. He had given me a dip of Garrett snuff and I got sick as the proverbial dog. My mother was so angry at him, I thought she would punch him but subsided as soon as I quit pucking. After I had settled down a bit, he put his arm around me and asked if I wanted to see the gun that killed the very last turkey in the county. I asked him if it would make Momma mad again, and he said who cares, I've made her mad so many times one more won't matter.
He went into the house and brought out a lever action rifle and showed it to me. He told me how it operated and
how to load it, and to always keep my finger off of the trigger except to let down the hammer to half-cock, or to shoot, would I like to hold it? Yes. It was very heavy, but I managed to keep from dropping it. He said it had killed many deer and turkeys, but he always cleaned it and oiled it after he got home even if he hadn't fired a shot. Over the next 5yrs. I visited him many times, and almost every time he would let me hold that old rifle. Then one day when I was ten, he called my mother and aunt ,her sister and my uncle,her brother out on the porch while I was holding the rifle, and said this boy gets this Winchester when I'm gone, Does everyone understand? Well, Grandpa died 6 weeks later, and although my dad asked the whole family where the rifle was, nobody had seen it for a year or more. We all knew who took it, but my dad said it wasn't worth a split in the family, to make a fuss. The reason I didn't "make a fuss" was more weakness of limb rather than purity of heart. I haven't seen my cousin for 40yrs. and am unlikely to ever see him again, but if I do, I will make that overdue "fuss". My dad told me the old man had told him it was a .32/20 m1873. I fired it a few times after I could hold it up, but it's greatest value to me was my Granddad had hunted with it for 50yrs. My own firearms, fishing tackle, knives, loading equipment and hand tools will be distributed by me, or if I die before I get it completed, by my wife according to my written instructions. I haven't waited till the last minute.
Hey, Shaky...regrets to ya about the 73, and the family incident. I am sure that tale could be told many, many times over. By the by, my family's two Winchesters were .44 and 32-20...wish I had gotten the .44-40, but your experience makes me grateful for having the old 32-20.
You are right though...write it down, and leave it in your will.
Blue
Hey, Shaky...regrets to ya about the 73, and the family incident. I am sure that tale could be told many, many times over. By the by, my family's two Winchesters were .44 and 32-20...wish I had gotten the .44-40, but your experience makes me grateful for having the old 32-20.
You are right though...write it down, and leave it in your will.
Blue
Shaky & Gunslinger
Those sound oh too familiar. Sparing the details, that has hapened in our family. Guns and heirloom belongings were not received by the person intended to receive them. This subject has given me inspiration to ensure my stuff goes to whom I designate. Only a few things mind you, as the wife can sell the rest if she chooses.
Remember, you can choose your friends. Family is what it is. As my late father in law often remarked, "You see what they are". Meaning here it is and that's all there is; from what's for dinner to any situation at hand... I often heard his mother say the same thing. Maybe it was a Mississippi thing.
I have written instructions on all my hunting materila and my shop equiptment.Who gets what and when. All the other junk i own they can do what-ever. i would like all my mounts to be on display someplace if the family does not care to have them, as would take a room 24 x 26 to hang all of them. I;ve been told that Cabelas'and Bass will buy Mounts? There is a Steak house in Missoula, Mt that I eat in often when out there and the guy who owns the place has hunted the world over. He sold the resturant last year and I want to re-visit to see if the mounts remained with the sale.On a personal basis, I would not give 2 cents for a mount that i did not kill myself, but to each his own. In certain business's mounts do have a place for all to see and i enjoy looking at them. All my mounts have a brass plae under the mount stating when, where and what caliber gun I used. So down the road anyone can know the facts. Good hunting guys. Shoot-um-straight and often.
WA Mtn hunter: No its not just Miss. it's world wide. I was in the Banking Business for 23 yrs and i saw first hand families break-apart and never speak again over 2 cens worth of junk. A simular thing happened in my family to my Aunt who i had trusted all my life. Not untill my Grandmother died did I really find out what type Aunt she realy was.So sometimes the true person does not show up till it involves $$$$$, then we learn the hard facts.Do you know ahat a Buff soft nose bullet is? i do not just trying to find out. All i know it's used in Africia HAve you read John Taylors ("Pondoro")? if not by all means read it.I learned a lot I never dreamed of. It's one of thoe books you canno lay aside till thru reading.It's titled Big Game and Big Game rifles
I come from a big family. I have two brothers who are much older and stopped hunting about six years ago. The hard part is that we all had our favorite rifles and now my brother in-law hunts with my father and I on a regular basis. He quit hunting for a very long time and recently caught the bug when I got him out with us. His son, the oldest boy in our family is starting to hunt next year. My father "barrows" his 308 browning BLR to him every season but that is the rifle that my older brother "used" to use. I feel bad because I know that this rifle truly belongs in the hands of my in-law and when something happens I am sure it is going to get messy. My father does not seem to let go of anything. He would rather "barrow" things out at time of need. I have purchased my own rifles and equipment just for that reason because I know that I am not assured anything if things get harry. I would really hate to see my old 30wcf go because that is the gun my grandfather used and my father started hunting in the 50's with and then I used for my first 15 years of hunting. But I am prepared and resolved to not let it get in the way of my family. I have already begun my collection with retained value in mind but when it comes to it things are just things. It could all burn in a fire and I would shed tears for only a little while. I would give them all up happily if it meant another few seasons hunting with my brothers (probably never to happen again).
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I love it when someone causes a compunction, a pricking of the mind, that causes us to place life on pause, to reflect and commit, to manifesting and evoking love and affection.
Trevor may have been coming, but I think a part of the guide was about to appear ... tears from the magnitude of his sorrow.
Just as the client gave the guide something that he treasured,something from the heart,something far greater ... time treasured and valued friendship.
The part of a mans heart where the beauty is, where
life seems little more than a matter of struggle and endurance, when difficulty and disappointment form a crust around a mans heart ... yet there is a place that is unprotected that beauty can always reach out and touch!
Norm valued your passing friend, he valued you Dave,time treasured,valued friend.
Tears flooded the keyboard as I read this article.
I was reminded of the passing of my father, October 10th,1973, the day I quit working for him.
It was the end of the summer and construction work (dry wall) was slowing down. I had a new born, and got hired by a government firm, and on my first day I got the call at 9:30am.
My wife called me, and said that my dad had come to pick me up to go to work, and had a disappointed look as he was told I got a new job.
He left and went to a brother-in-laws house and ended up on the wrong side of a gun. Dead instantly, closed casket. I never got to see or hear him again ... all I wanted was his dry wall hammer.
Never got it, but the memories are beginning to come out of this 'ol crusted heart of mine.
The hardest part?
I only told him once that I loved him, in a letter, while I was in the military.
After typing this, and going through a whole array of emotions, there won't be a probate court. I'm giving away the reminders of the treasured time I have spent with family and friends, and my love for them, while I'm still alive. While I can look them in the eyes and hug them a little closer.
As I look into my rangefinder, I can see the next horizon of my life. I have a lttle longer to live on this journey, thanks be to God, and I'll be sure to make the most of it.
Dave,reach out and touch someone with the beauty of the Kabar,and what it truly means, to someone who will treasure and cherish it, just as you have, and thanks for waking something up inside of me ...finding and celebrating, the treasures in life and death.
Many years ago, My Father was talking about his old guns. He said he wanted each of the family men to get one. He knew I like his old Mossberg, but I really liked it because it was his favorite.
During this talk I told him that if he had to die for me to get it, then I never wanted it. Some weeks later, while visiting, he handed it to me.
He lived for years after that. When he died, and his sons from a previous marriage showed up to paw through whatever they could get, some of the pain was helped that I didn't feel I acted as the vultures.
I shoot and clean that same shotgun, and keep it for my son, and his son, who hopefully will continue this.
My wife is the only one who knew this story before now.
Given the time to consider it (which is something of a gift, depending on your psychological perspective or world view), you can choose who will receive the things you'll leave behind because - let's face it - you can't take it with you. Don't wait until you run out of time to consider these issues...who matters, what matters. My father wasn't a shooter, not really an outdoorsman at all. I've been able to share quality time and the shooting sports with my son, and I've asked him which of my rifles he admires most. I've made arrangements to set two rifles and their accessories aside for him. The disposition of other things has already been addressed in writing. Appreciate every moment of your life, and pick those with whom you share your time. Spend less time in front of the television, and more time in discussion over coffee or dinner. Take a stroll after dinner and enjoy a sunset. Learn something about a coworker or friend today by listening; you'll get your chance to talk. It's often a GIFT simply to listen. Treat every day of your life as though you were running out of time. I say these things from the perspective of 60+ years, and I understand the perspective of those who think they have more tomorrows than yesterdays, but I urge you not to take time for granted.
Being the only boy among my siblings, I inherited the family arsenal which is probably half of my present collection of a couple dozen. Each weapon has its own story and sentimental value = the Colt Police Positive in .38 Short that my grandfather, Ciruit Judge over three West Virginia counties carried in his suit coat pocket in the 1910's - '40's. The percussion lock shotgun he cobbled together as a boy in the 1880's out of civil war musket scraps. The Yeager Rifle that somehow found its way from Germany to Ireland then into the trunk of a 16 year old girl who was shipped off to America. Her parents sent her off fearing she might otherwise be destined for the same fate that her brothers faced in mid-1800's Ireland -- to be shipped to Australian penal colonies. She became my Great Grandmother. Settling in Washington DC, the rifle was always at the ready during the War between the States.
As far as the family arsenal goes, I'll be passing on more than wood and metal to my kids. As long as the guns remain in the family, there will be generational connections to our family heritage.
I plan on giving useful things to folks who can appreciate and use them, otherwise they'll just end up in an attic or pawn shop.
To watch my lifelong Teacher, Hunting Buddy, Best Friend and the person I trusted most to succumb to cancer, I to can relate to David. For the past two seasons, the passenger seat he frequented is empty and silent as I go into the field or down town to get something. We enjoyed each others company and cherished each and every second.
To watch your best friend that is bigger than life and tuff as nails to watch them wither away in just months if not days and lay there paralyzed in agony until there last breath.
In my gun safe is a Remington Model 721 30-06 topped with an old Redfield Wide Field 3x9 and the rear sight was turned 180 to accommodate the scope. I remember watching him shoot great distances beyond other shooters.
The rifle belongs to me now
It belonged to my Father
The passenger seat that is empty?
My 9 year old grandson now occupies that seat!
The call you never want came right after the end of a 12 hour workday in Alaska (1984). My sister said Daddy had a stroke and was in a Jacksonville, Florida hospital. The redeye flight got me there by the next morning. When I walked in the room it was obvious the end was near. The only thing he could move was his eyelids. Moments after entering the room I saw tears begin to run from the corner of his eyes-he knew his 3rd son was home from the far North.
I thank God often for allowing me to get there in time to tell the old man I loved him. It was him that bought my first gun and first fishing pole. Then he took me to the woods and lakes of Florida for the time(s) of my life. His last gun is in my care. Dad used that old model 50 Winchester and a load of buckshot to take his last deer. That gun isn't worth much to anyone but me.
My Father never carried me hunting. But one Thanksgiving day a couple neighbors invited him and me I was l4 to go Rabbit hunting. That was the only time my Dad and i everhunted period. I was the only boy in our family of 5 and for some reason I loved the outdoors and hunting and guns. I have collected quite a number of high dollar firearms over my 73 ys. I have one Son and a FDaghtetr, both love hunting. My Son and I have hunted every fall for 40 odd years. My firearms will go to my Son except 4 that i plan to leave for my Daughter who loves w-tail hunting. I had a Uncle who I derly Loved and I wa sick in l945 and he brought me a MARBLES sheath knife. I carried that knife for 30 yrs or more then feared i might loose it. So, i put it in the safe and bought a new Marbles when they begun production a few years back. That knife my Uncle gave me when I was l0 yrs old is worth more to me than the Denver mint. It goes to my Son or my first Grandson. In my Dads will, he instructed that no estate sale was to be, that my two sisters and I were to divide and share. Now I have one sister left and heaven forbit when we settle his estate as my Mother who is 94 is yet alive an healthy. How I wish my Dad had been hunting with memor, but his interest was Horses not hunting. I look forward to hunting season each year as i know My Son and will be hunting everey chance we get. Two years ago we both killed a nice Buck on the same day about l5 minutes apart. Then this past year we both killed a 9 and a 8 pointer about 10 minutes befoe drk on opening day of B/Pseason. For Christmas he had a Magazine cover type picture made up with both of us and our deer, my most treasured gift ever since that Marbles knife. Most of us know or think we know when we are near the end and i want thoe last days to be spent in the woods. I told my Pastor I wanted to live to be 92????9(why I chose that #) and be found sitting on my hunting stool beside a tree wth my 06 in my hand wih a smile on my face.I have one request left to fill and that is for my Son and I to go to the Rockies together and he get him a nice Elk like mine. Hopefully we can arrange that while i'm able to travel.I've have the opportunity to hunt the Rockies many times and killed the game I wanted, and meet many new firends Most all the game I've taken and mounted on my Den Wall.Wealth is not the amount of $$$$ you have and leave behind, but the special places you went and the endless memories left behind. Shoot-um-straigh and very often. A old Southern Country Boy, who will be in the woods in the Am for that old Tom.
I have 2 firearms that will be passed to my son or hopefully a grandson or grandaughter one day. First is a .38 S&W revolver that my grandfather carried as chief deputy sheriff during the Depression (the first one !) and later as head of security for a factory during WWII. He told my dad that it was never fired in anger, but don't be afraid to use it if necessary.
The other is a CZ-27 7.65mm automatic with Nazi stampings that my uncle brought back from Germany after WWII. It is still like new. He gave it to me before he passed away since he knew his son who lived in New York City would get rid of it immediately since he is an anti and a liberal wuss. I also have a Mauser 98 that he gave me that I have offered to his grandson, but has declined it since he is even more liberal and lives in Canada.
When I come closer to the end of my hunting days, I plan to start my pass along early so they go to the person I want, not some estate sale.
You are right Beekeeper, we all need to have a good will. This is a good quote from another blog, "My greatest fear is that my wife will sell my bows for what I told her I paid for them instead of what they are worth".
My Dad didn't have many material things to pass on to me. He did pass on the love of family, Love of other people, the outdoors, and hunting. Pretty much in that order. Couldn't ask for more.
Many years ago my best friend's father owned a Marlin model 46m .22 bolt action rifle. His Dad (who I was very close to) hadn't hunted or shot in years and I asked him if he wanted to sell it. He said no, that he might "get into" hunting and shooting again so I said thanks anyway and never thought about it again.
Some years later, my friend's Dad passed away. A few days after that, my friend's Mom called me to her house and handed me that rifle. She told me how my friend's Dad thought alot of me and how he wanted her to be sure that Mossberg ended up with me.
I've shot thousands of rounds through it and my 11 year old son and 8 year old daughter have both learned to shoot with it as well. Any while it's not a "petzal quality" rifle to me it's worth more than any amount of money or the finest .22 a man could buy.
Jim
Dave-
My prayers go out to the family of your Friend; A bumber sticker I saw recently stated,"CANCER SUCKS" is about the best way I can phrase my thoughts about it. Our family has been hurt by this monster in the past as well. And like some of you here, death really brings out the worst in people's greedy ways.
I have items from father-in-law given to me by his son for safe keeping, for most of the other family can't be trusted not to sell it! Sad, very sad...
At least you can treasure the knife as a lasting memory.
My very best friend taught me to hunt like a gentleman, load my own ammo with the precision of a scientist, never to judge other, respect ladies and always love my family and my friends. My mentor was 67 years old when I met him and I was a very wet behind the ears 16. Laurice was the reason I love the outdoors and wildlife as much as I do. One day he gave the me the old fixed blade he carried whenever he left his house for any type of hunting or fishing trip. About two weeks later my friend died.The blade remains razor sharp, honed the way he taught me, on my hunting belt. I'm constantly reminded of Laurice and all the things he gave me whenever I use his most treasured gift.
Ok I think I can see to type now. I am lucky in that no one in the family wanted any of the stuff from my grandpa "Big Daddy" that I did.
I have his old Winchester .22, a couple of Navy issue swiss army type knives, a bunch of old school tools and a collection of books on art, travel and every subject under the sun from metallurgy to mushrooms. While he was alive he taught me how to paddle a canoe, pitch a tent, build a fire, sharpen a knife, clean a northern, a weave a net and leave every campsite clean and with a bark shingled bundle of wood for the next arrival. There wasn't much he couldn't do. I cherish every moment that I spent with him. God I miss you Big Daddy and I wish we had had more time, can't see again gotta go.
Sorry to hear about your friend. Quite incredible that he found the Kabar after a winter in deep snow. Also, assuming that it is still in good condition, that shows what a good knife it is. As for the guide... a rangefinder is a pretty nice gift to get from a client that he took on a hunt. Must have had a really good impression on him, or maybe friends. The story does not say... but, they must of hit it off.
I have my dad's old Winchester model 50 shotgun and a Kabar that went thru WWII with his cousin. Somehow there's a conection when you hold a gun or knife that your deceased loved one held and hunted with. I rarely use them for fear of loss or damage and my son probably has no use for them. Probably will just give them to a friend some day.
Back in the late '70s we were a family of Arizona transplants living in Idaho. I was the only one in the family born there, hence the name. My dad had friends that hunted an bought a couple of deer rifles. I don't even remember what they were. He sold them when he lost his job and had to buy food for us kids. He never go to hand them down to my brothers and I, but I won't soon forget the sacrafice. He never hunted again. I never hunted with him. I'm doing my best to hunt with my son and will pass everything on to him and let him distribute it to grandkids, etc. I have no plans on selling anything, but if I do, either way I pass on a legacy.
Spud
Sad when our friends begin to die and we have to hide the tears. It makes you think about your own mortality and just how long you will be around... I'm spending more time in funeral homes than in the woods this month.
As for the hand me downs Dave you can send the Kabar to Tennessee if you want... I've got my dad's biggest buck on the wall and my father in law's too! I've got my wife's grandfather's shotgun and my grandfather's shotgun and pretty much all the hand me downs as I am the only one interested in dangerous politically incorrect behaviour like hunting and fishing. I think my boys will be fighting over the collection.
Great post Dave, especially in light of all this economic/political mess we are constantly bombarded with. We often take for granted how truly blessed we are, for so many reasons. Take advantage of the many simple pleasures of life.
My father passed away at age 78 last December. His absolute passion was whitetail hunting in Minnesota. He started hunting whitetails in 1940 and only missed seasons during his 4 year military stint during the Korean War. His health was failing terribly last November and we all assumed he would miss the deer season. We were wrong, he somehow mustered the strength to go. It was hard and I was worried - and now it is the memory that we all hold near and dear. His stories about the "old timers" he knew and hunted with in the 40's were something to hear. We will re-tell some of these many times in deer camps in years to come.
I now possess his Enfield 30-06 that he bought when he was 16, to hear him tell the story about that gun made you understand how proud he was of it. He moved on to a Remington Model 81 auto in .35 Remington, he called it "the club" and then to a Savage 99 in .300 Savage. His last gun was a Remington 7400. These guns all took their fair share of whitetails over the years. The Enfield has probably not been fired in 50 years.
I now own them, I plan on leaving my fancy pants Bolt actions at home until I take at least one deer with each of these rifles. Why? Can't quite put it into words but I'm guessing anyone reading this knows the reasons.
well, since i really dont get out very much, and have no hunting buddies, i guess all of my stuff will go to my son and hopefully, daughter. she is very young, but i have already started her shooting. my son will be going hunting with me for the first time this year. i know he already has the bug.
Unless you were born in the South, you probably wouldn't know what a hunter's horn is. Made from a cow's horn, it had to be a certain size and curve. Meticulously scraped and polished with a mouthpiece carved into the horn, they were used to call the dogs during a hunt, call the kids to the house, or locate each other in the woods among other uses. My half-Irish half-Indian grandfathers horn hung on a peg (along with his Colt) next to the door. Given to me by my cousin, I am like Petzal, I don't know who to pass it on to....
Michael
Great topic Dave. I have the Marlin 30-30 336C I gave my dad for his birthday (Dec. 20th), and Christmas. He always had to borrow a rifle to go deer hunting, and I got tired of that. He only got to use it once. He died the next May. He had given me his Mossberg 20ga. bolt for Christmas when I was 12, the shotgun my mother's dad had given him.
His brother, my uncle, died four years ago and left me his Smith and Wesson 9mm. I have not shot it in a good while, but I will today. I seriously doubt I will be able to hit what I am shooting at due to blurry vision.
I will be passing them on as well as others to special people, with the hope that they will appreciate, use and care for them, and not just sell them.
Great comments, guys! But to answer Dave's question as to what to do with Norm's knife, I offer a suggestion. I have in front of me a book entitled "Communicating the Outdoor Experience", edited by Norm Strung, copyright 1975. In honor of Norm Strung and to the outdoor writer's craft, make this knife the revolving trophy for the recipient of the best yearly writer chosen by the Outdoor Writer's Association of America, with Dave making the presentation.
My Father and late brother left me some beautiful rifles and a single shot 16 gauge Stevens with a patina that is best described as rust. My first time skeet shooting was with that "Farmer's gun" as Dad called it. I was 10 or so and that beast kicked so bad I don't know why I shot a second time. That farmer's gun means as much to me as the premium rifles from my Dad, brother, and my uncle. It is a portal in time to when they were still alive and next to me eating the lunch my Mom made for all of us.
WAMtnhunter Thanks: Did not go hunting this Am as was not up to par, but hopefully Monday i can go. Hunting seasons are to far apart for me now. Days i wish I lived in a area where could hunt 24/7. I envy the guys out west they have so much game to hunt and able to hunt most of the year. But suppose if could do so doubt would enjoy as I do now. Most guys/ladies all have a special hobby, me its my guns and hunting. Suppose if owned one of each firerm made i'd want more. With the many I have, I only use about 4 on a regular bases. Those just jump out to me when I open the safes. But, confidence in those 4 I feel is the reason I choose them. I will try the new Marlin XL7 in 270 come fall. Never owned a 270 prior or even shot one. So i expect great results on w-tails here on the farm come November.Kinda funny to me, when hunting season is in I can hop out of bed t 4 Am and thrilled to get dressed and in the woods, then when season is over i sleep till 9 or so.Suppose that tells all where my priorities lie. There is so much to see and enjoy in the great outdoors even if your eat your tags.I am in HOG heaven when in the rockies at l0-12K feet and just look out over the wonders our good Lord provided for us. I expect my wife and I have made near 5.000 phots of the rockies and here. I can enjoy chipmonks play all day and contended. Too bad when was younger and good health I never had the $$$ or the time to go hunting to the places that I would like to hunt. But for the past 25 years have made up some of the lost time. Just pray I have many falls left to enjoy what I am able to do,. At present a nice oldtom is my goal, hopefully come next week will fill that tag. We are short on Turkeys here this spring and not many to be found. But do have a flock that passes by ever few days. Got plenty of w-tails this year and a spotted deer i got my eye set for. Son killed one last year. O I could go on and on , but you guys have other things to read about. Shoot-um-straight and often. Prepare to give that special item to whom-ever you have in mind. Don't wait till you are gone , do it now. Good hunting to all.
Mr. Strung was a helluva writer, interesting and down to earth. For someone to be able to write and relate the way he did he must have been an outdoorsman of the same caliber. Be honored to hold that K-Bar Dave.
I'm getting to the age where I am aware of my own mortality, an age group in which a lot of folks begin to check out, including Mr Strung. Each of my friends and selected family members will get something from me when when check out time is imminent. I too do not wish to be the center of a feeding frenzy or the cause of bad feelings when the probate judge does his or her job.
My dad hunts with a pre-64 'rifleman's rifle' he got from his dad, and will hopefully pass to me. True it's a great shooter and the quintessential bolt-action, but it's more the sentimentality that draws me too it. Imagine the stories of adventure and camaraderie some old guns out there could tell.
Great story. I treasure everything I rec'd from my Grandfather in 1976 when he passed away. Him and I were the only ones in the family with a passion for the outdoors so we connected differently. I wish I had spent more time with him but when you are young you don't think like that. I often walk the woods holding his gun or wade a stream with one of his fly rods and wonder if we are sharing the same feelings and emotions spawned by the chase.
On the flip side, my grandmother on my mothers side gave everything away when she turned 75 thinking she wouldn't be around much longer. She's 104 years old now and I often ask her if she wants it back. :)
Great story. I treasure everything I rec'd from my Grandfather in 1976 when he passed away. Him and I were the only ones in the family with a passion for the outdoors so we connected differently. I wish I had spent more time with him but when you are young you don't think like that. I often walk the woods holding his gun or wade a stream with one of his fly rods and wonder if we are sharing the same feelings and emotions spawned by the chase.
On the flip side, my grandmother on my mothers side gave everything away when she turned 75 thinking she wouldn't be around much longer. She's 104 years old now and I often ask her if she wants it back. :)
The most cherished hand me downs in my family are the ones that have to do with hunting and fishing. Most of the items named in my will are guns/knifes/mounts etc.. that I want to go to certain friends and family members. I have my Grandpas 1897 Winchester in a display case with pictures of him holding it with game he took dating back to the 30's, if my house was on fire, after my kids it would be the first thing I saved.
Jeff4066,
That's a nice story. I had the same sort of situation when father passed. Luckily I had his 30-06 at my house because i had been hunting with it some the season before he passed. I also have three deer mounts that were his. Every time I look at those mounts it reminds me of those hunts because we were hunting together for every one of them. Couldn't think of a better reminder to have!
This reminds me of a little story in F&S about a guide who took a dying man on his last hunt. He had the time of his life there, and died just days after. These things are the definition of bittersweet.
Fellow bloggers,
You have said it all. I can only say that I, too, add to your thoughts about a special person who lived life to the fullest in Alaska. A dear friend, fellow pilot, avid hunter/fisherman, and partner in some business. Cancer is no way to go and the way we deal with it is no way to do so. To prolong someone's life with ever stronger doses of deadening drugs, for month after month, is no way to go when the end result is far too evident, rather than to let nature take it's course, or, God Forbid?? --to allow a man to die with dignity when no other course is left, is unconscionable. Should 'eating your gun' be the only recourse to dying with dignity?? Maybe the Inuit people knew far better than we. When the time came they took their people out on the ice to be immortalized forever in their home, the environment where they lived and from which they expected to leave this earth.
All of the comments about treasured items that will be passed down, not sold, remind me of a quote I keep on a shelf in my office: "Measure your wealth not by what you have, but rather by what you have for which you would not take money".
My father took his own life about 20 years ago after a long battle with Parkinsons Disease. Just couldn't handle not being able to hunt anymore. He left me a pre64 Model 70 featherweight. In the meantime I have managed to aquire quite a few more. I am married but we have no children and I have but two really close hunting buddies. Nobody in the immediate family has much interest in the outdoors. I am only 40 but my health is failing also. It has really been bothering me as to what to do with these guns. I want somebody to have them that will use and cherish them as much as I have. What to do?
Family guns...the heart of a good blog topic, so thank you Dave.
Few in here seem to mention muzzleloaders in their catalog of firearms to hand down...but, they should be included, too. After all, some of them are a good deal older, and represent a lot more desperation in the hands of our forefathers. Like...Great Granddad's Tennessee rifle, with double-set triggers; the 1973 Winchester, from Indian territory; the plains rifle rebored by Russ Carpenter; the 1862 Springfield musket...and so forth.
I think we all agree that these kinds of gifts are not for everyone, or just any of our kids and relatives. They may belong in a good friend's hands...or a young shooter's closet. I have seen family guns given away to unappreciative youngsters, or hung on nails on the wall, forgotten, and neglected. One of my daughters has urged that I write down the stories behind the family guns, so that whoever gets them, the heritage will accompany the gift.
Good idea. Nice blog idea...enjoyed the trip.
Blue
True story: Some years back I went to a Estate sale that advertised a Parker s x s 20 ga. That was all I was interested in. I started the bid at 500.00 bucks (gun was as NIB. A young fellow raised to 550.00 and we continued this process for several bids. I finally asked a guy beside me who the young kid was and he said the man who owned this farm and that gun was his Grandpa's and he had promished his grandson the Parker, but the family would not do so and insisted it be sold.I went over to the young man and appolizided for my bidding.Had i know the story would not have bid. I told the young boy , about l8-20 ys old ( I had the last bid) that had I know would not have increased any bid. Told him to bid 5 bucks more and the gun was his as far as i was involved. So the kid did so and the gun went to him. After the sale he came to me and let me hold/see the gun and told me thanks for allowing him to own what grandpa promished. So if you got a specal gun for a special person, give it to him while you around, as most families are greedy and want every dime they can get. I never have gotten a Parker 20 but did find a excellent Fox in 16 ga s x s and a Rabbit ear Wesley C Scott l2 ga s x s. . Now hopefully can use the Fox and kill my Tom this week. Shoot-um-straight and often.
Gunslinger,
I hope ol' Tom struts his stuff about 20 yards right out in front of you about 0730!
Good Luck!
WMH
When the time is right, the right person for the Kabar will be there, and you'll know.
cliff88,
The answers obvious.
Gunslinger
I hope you find even a "young" tom!
I have been thinking about gifting some of my guns to young 'uns who might need them soon. I think I will ask my son which 3 or 5 or whatever guns he really wants sometime soon. I know there are a few that he would have little interest in, but I would hate to give one away that he had his heart set on. Like my dad who sold the '66 Mustang that I wanted to buy!
WMH
Make that an 1873 Winchester, thank you....
Blue
Wingshooter54,
My father had one of those old cow horns you mentioned. An old timer even older than dad made it for him many years ago. Glad you mentioned it because I don't know which sibling has it but will try to find out. Dad's horn in particular was rather difficult to blow. Even the mouthpiece was hand carved. I've seen many with a metal mouthpiece added that was easier to blow.
The first memory I have of my Grandpa was at the age of 5. He had given me a dip of Garrett snuff and I got sick as the proverbial dog. My mother was so angry at him, I thought she would punch him but subsided as soon as I quit pucking. After I had settled down a bit, he put his arm around me and asked if I wanted to see the gun that killed the very last turkey in the county. I asked him if it would make Momma mad again, and he said who cares, I've made her mad so many times one more won't matter.
He went into the house and brought out a lever action rifle and showed it to me. He told me how it operated and
how to load it, and to always keep my finger off of the trigger except to let down the hammer to half-cock, or to shoot, would I like to hold it? Yes. It was very heavy, but I managed to keep from dropping it. He said it had killed many deer and turkeys, but he always cleaned it and oiled it after he got home even if he hadn't fired a shot. Over the next 5yrs. I visited him many times, and almost every time he would let me hold that old rifle. Then one day when I was ten, he called my mother and aunt ,her sister and my uncle,her brother out on the porch while I was holding the rifle, and said this boy gets this Winchester when I'm gone, Does everyone understand? Well, Grandpa died 6 weeks later, and although my dad asked the whole family where the rifle was, nobody had seen it for a year or more. We all knew who took it, but my dad said it wasn't worth a split in the family, to make a fuss. The reason I didn't "make a fuss" was more weakness of limb rather than purity of heart. I haven't seen my cousin for 40yrs. and am unlikely to ever see him again, but if I do, I will make that overdue "fuss". My dad told me the old man had told him it was a .32/20 m1873. I fired it a few times after I could hold it up, but it's greatest value to me was my Granddad had hunted with it for 50yrs. My own firearms, fishing tackle, knives, loading equipment and hand tools will be distributed by me, or if I die before I get it completed, by my wife according to my written instructions. I haven't waited till the last minute.
Hey, Shaky...regrets to ya about the 73, and the family incident. I am sure that tale could be told many, many times over. By the by, my family's two Winchesters were .44 and 32-20...wish I had gotten the .44-40, but your experience makes me grateful for having the old 32-20.
You are right though...write it down, and leave it in your will.
Blue
Hey, Shaky...regrets to ya about the 73, and the family incident. I am sure that tale could be told many, many times over. By the by, my family's two Winchesters were .44 and 32-20...wish I had gotten the .44-40, but your experience makes me grateful for having the old 32-20.
You are right though...write it down, and leave it in your will.
Blue
Shaky & Gunslinger
Those sound oh too familiar. Sparing the details, that has hapened in our family. Guns and heirloom belongings were not received by the person intended to receive them. This subject has given me inspiration to ensure my stuff goes to whom I designate. Only a few things mind you, as the wife can sell the rest if she chooses.
Remember, you can choose your friends. Family is what it is. As my late father in law often remarked, "You see what they are". Meaning here it is and that's all there is; from what's for dinner to any situation at hand... I often heard his mother say the same thing. Maybe it was a Mississippi thing.
I have written instructions on all my hunting materila and my shop equiptment.Who gets what and when. All the other junk i own they can do what-ever. i would like all my mounts to be on display someplace if the family does not care to have them, as would take a room 24 x 26 to hang all of them. I;ve been told that Cabelas'and Bass will buy Mounts? There is a Steak house in Missoula, Mt that I eat in often when out there and the guy who owns the place has hunted the world over. He sold the resturant last year and I want to re-visit to see if the mounts remained with the sale.On a personal basis, I would not give 2 cents for a mount that i did not kill myself, but to each his own. In certain business's mounts do have a place for all to see and i enjoy looking at them. All my mounts have a brass plae under the mount stating when, where and what caliber gun I used. So down the road anyone can know the facts. Good hunting guys. Shoot-um-straight and often.
WA Mtn hunter: No its not just Miss. it's world wide. I was in the Banking Business for 23 yrs and i saw first hand families break-apart and never speak again over 2 cens worth of junk. A simular thing happened in my family to my Aunt who i had trusted all my life. Not untill my Grandmother died did I really find out what type Aunt she realy was.So sometimes the true person does not show up till it involves $$$$$, then we learn the hard facts.Do you know ahat a Buff soft nose bullet is? i do not just trying to find out. All i know it's used in Africia HAve you read John Taylors ("Pondoro")? if not by all means read it.I learned a lot I never dreamed of. It's one of thoe books you canno lay aside till thru reading.It's titled Big Game and Big Game rifles
I come from a big family. I have two brothers who are much older and stopped hunting about six years ago. The hard part is that we all had our favorite rifles and now my brother in-law hunts with my father and I on a regular basis. He quit hunting for a very long time and recently caught the bug when I got him out with us. His son, the oldest boy in our family is starting to hunt next year. My father "barrows" his 308 browning BLR to him every season but that is the rifle that my older brother "used" to use. I feel bad because I know that this rifle truly belongs in the hands of my in-law and when something happens I am sure it is going to get messy. My father does not seem to let go of anything. He would rather "barrow" things out at time of need. I have purchased my own rifles and equipment just for that reason because I know that I am not assured anything if things get harry. I would really hate to see my old 30wcf go because that is the gun my grandfather used and my father started hunting in the 50's with and then I used for my first 15 years of hunting. But I am prepared and resolved to not let it get in the way of my family. I have already begun my collection with retained value in mind but when it comes to it things are just things. It could all burn in a fire and I would shed tears for only a little while. I would give them all up happily if it meant another few seasons hunting with my brothers (probably never to happen again).
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