My God I want your job Dave.
The only real advantage I can see for having a silencer would be to suppress the sound from echoing off the hills and thru the valleys giving your position away. Up close I'm not sure of its value.

I'm with Jim-I want your job, Dave!
Neat little piece, and perfectly legal, hummm.
Did you get any hunting in while you were there, Dave?

With sprawl continuing to eat up the places we all hunt/shoot, suppressed firearms could make for better relationships w/neighbors who don't like to listen to gunfire.

Jim

"Why the suppressor if the bullet is sub-sonic??"

Because there is still the sound of the charge exploding in the chamber and escaping out the barrel. The suppressor reduces or eliminates most of that sound.

Anyone know if the sniper rifle in "Clear and present danger" was an actual weapon, or just a completely made up prop? I never saw a "silenced" rifle while I was on active duty?

No doubt in a few months there will be a story in the magazine about Dave slaying a huge Red Stag or some other exotic critter from down under.
That is a very interesting rifle. Unfortunately in the wrong hands a poacher could do much damage to the local wildlife with one of those.

WOW” and I thought I was mortaring rounds at 55gal drums a ½ mile or more with a 45ACP 1911A1!

Couldn’t find a 338 Cal 300 grain Soft Point of hand, so I went with a 250 grain match bullet. With a 100
yard zero it drops -35.3 with 945fps and 496 Energy (ft.-lb.) at 200 yards and -1882.0 with 793fps
and 349 Energy (ft.-lb.) at 1000 yards

http://www.hornady.com/cgi-bin/ball10.cgi?firearm=Long&desc=338+Cal+250+...

Would be a heck of an Urban Bear gun.

A shooting friend has a Colt AR-15 fitted with a silencer from Advanced Armament. The rifle is entertaining to fire since you need no ear protection. The most disconcerting feature of the weapon is that I can hear the action close after each pull of the trigger. I never heard that sound before on a Stoner system rifle.

Here in old blighty (UK) moderated rifles are very much the order of the day, and the extension to a firearms cert is granted to protect the shooters hearing. It's primarily a health and safety issue, but they also seem to soften recoil.

SBW

i certainly wish that we american could have silenced toys, if for nothing else than target pracice. hunting with one would be nice as well. and while it seems nice in thought to be able to ccw with a silencer, i would not want to have to pull out a gun with a foot of barrel and silencer on it. not only would it be a slow draw but it would be quite hard to conceal as well. i know, that the suposed reason we can not have them is for criminal use. which makes no sence at all. because the crininals will do what ever they want, reguardles of the laws.

A slincer may be very usefull in the coming REVOLUTION :0

Guys, in my home state of Wisconsin it used to be possible to shoot cans and targets in old abandoned quarries, farms, etc. No more. Why not? Because the Starbucks crowd now lives out there. They move out to the country, hear gunshots, and commence making phone calls to the local sheriff and starting petitions. Viola, a place shooters were able to shoot at for eighty years is now off limits.

If we are going to keep our ranges and hunting privileges in the Age of Obama, we are going to have to learn to be good neighbors to these people. Silencing the guns makes a lot of sense. We can talk big, but we'll be talking big while they escort us off our ranges. The world has changed, Obama voters, and you helped change it. We have to adapt. Silencers are a good thing.

I know a guy who lives in the outskirts or a huge City and shooting and hunting are not allowed. This guy bought a 22 Mag. mounted a high mount scope then went to a Lawn Mower sales office and bought a LAWN mower muffler. He clamped the muffler on the end of his bbl of the 22 mag and it did not interfer wih his high mounted scope.(zeroed for 100 yds) He would sit on his back porch and shoot deer between the eye and ear when ever he needed to refill his freezer. I was at his place one Am when he shot the rifle, and there was no more noise than a BB gun going off.So sound reducers can be obtained with out spending the last $$bucks you got and get results. PS: he only attached the muffler just far back on the bbl for the clamp to hold tight. IT WORKS>. I use battery operated ear muffs when I hunt or shoot and they reduce any noise when the gun goes off, plus enhances my bad hearing when not firing. I think they cost me about l50.00 bucks, worth every dime to save your hearing. I waited to late, lost one ear, but saved the other.

I wish they allowed silencers and automatics for the regular using firearms enthusiasts... but unfortunantly, I know it would get way out of hand if they did allow it. So many bad things could happen if weapons like that got into the hands of criminals or poachers... I could only imagine the chaos. Well, even though it would be nice to those who do follow the laws, we must suffer due to the stupidity and selfishness of some.

For more about the Kiwi fully moderated (length of the barrel) set ups, this article is worth a look - Mark Percy is considered the expert according to my sources down under.

http://home.xtra.co.nz/hosts/suppress/news.htm

SBW

That should have been "crop" field. Sorry...

I would comment on focus Fronts observation regarding the Obama crowd somehow being the cause of our loss of countryside and the invasion of the "Starbucks Crowd". Yes, we are ALL responsible for what has happened! This is because we as Americans have chosen to view our land as just another commodity to be bought and sold like groceries or motor vehicles, instead of a sacred trust. We have no "land ethic", thus we have converted our landscapes to strip malls, endless highways and future slum housing developments extending to the horizon. We are now paying the price and deservedly so. Sportsman may be more to blame for this atrocity than most, since we all knew better, and have sat on our collective rear-ends and said nothing, while our children's heritage was sold off for mere money. We have gotten what we deserve. How dumb can we be? Americans claim to "love their country", but have forgotten what "our country" really means, and have that love confused with the damn government - who has never been our friend and never will be. Tom

This just in, the Federal government is sponsoring a contest. Make your own suppressor without a Class III license to manufacture one, and you could win an all expenses paid trip to Kansas. That's Leavenworth, Kansas, where you will enjoy the fine accommodations of the Federal prison. Don't try this at home, kids. The Feds have zero sense of humor about this sort of thing.

That rifle looks crazy, and i was just wondering if that is as fast as sound. I just learned it is 765 fps

In the expected "revolution that would be a handy gadget EH?

I live out in the country, way off the raod in the woods. All my neighbors are hunters and feel as i do. We all are declaring war on the Hawks,Yotes, foxes, etc. Trying to save our Birds and small game as well as the Turkeys. Our Turkey crops is about l/2 of normal.

So I can hunt the ajoining farm where most of the Hawks are nesting now. And, we do not feel as if we breaking th law, we are saving the smaller game. What Idiot passed the Law about HAWKS must be the same guy who is bitching about saving the WOLF,bears. Who's helpig who, we hunters protecting the small game, birds, rabbits, squirels, turney's Quail, etc, or the care less so called hunters for large game only. Let me get my sights on Hawks, Wolves, Coyotes, Foxes and they dead animals. If in doubt, just go West and see the fewer animals where the Wolf,Grizs and Cougar has taken over.Or come here to my farm and see the few small animals left now.Sometimes animals need or help as well as well we can provide. Ask the Rancher out West what he thinks about the P/D's that break his fine horses, cows legs in thir holes.

I'd drop a dime on someone who shoots a hawk.

Gunslinger,

If the hawks weren't eating the squirrels and rabbits, then you would be bitching about them raiding your garden and bird feeder.

"Sounds" like a wonderful OSHA hunter safety device!

I was growling to the local warden the other day about the over abundance of turkey on my property. I've managed for grouse but the population keeps going down or at less it seems that way to me. I suspect that the huge roaming flocks of turkey are breaking and eating the eggs. The warden tells me that I'm crazy and that the real culprit are the ever increasing hawk and owl population. I'm constantly on my land and I see as many as 4-5 large birds of prey each and every day. They have certainly made a big comeback here. I know that this isn't a response to the silencer issue but I do agree with gunslinger that hawks are certainly common, as least here in Maine. I don't agree that we should be shooting them, but soon the fish and wildlife department will have to have some limited shooting to control them to reasonable levels.