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January 29, 2010

Petzal: A Smile from a Smilodon

By David E. Petzal

One of the many reasons to visit the SCI convention is the taxidermy, which ranges from marvelous to astounding. (As Wayne van Zwoll says, it’s worth the price of a plane ticket all by itself.) You just don’t see work of such scope, imagination, and artistry anywhere else.

This is a mount of a critter that you can’t hunt because it went extinct about 10,000 years ago. Popularly known as the sabretooth tiger, Smilodon evolved into several subspecies, the largest of which grew to 880 pounds, which is some big kitty.

This one evolved because a talented young taxidermist named Brian Geer (who works for Nature’s Design Taxidermy in Cody, WY) got hold of a liger pelt. Ligers are tiger/lion crosses; their hides may resemble those of Smilodon, and they’re about the right size, so it seemed only natural to create a sabretooth. There are hundreds of Smilodon skeletons to draw from, so it was no trick to get the size, weight, and musculature down. The tusks are cast directly from fossil teeth. This cat is, I believe Smilodon populator, the medium-sized variety that was found in North America, and in a well-fed state he would have gone about 620 pounds.

The critter on which he is about to dine is a species of primitive horse. Brian Geer gave Smilodon a couple of bloodstains and scuffmarks, figuring that if the cat had gotten into it with a horse he would not come through unmarked.

If you have taken a trophy that is not extinct and would like to have it mounted, you can contact naturesdesigntaxidermy.com; 307-527-6053.

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from PbHead wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

A 650 pound kitty! Now I know why you like the big calibers so much.

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from Mike Diehl wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

That's nice work indeed! The National Museum of Natural History or maybe the Field Museum could use some of those.

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from MLH wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Now I know where to send that woolly mammoth pelt.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

I'll need to bookmark this page so I can reference it to the "What would you do if you saw a Sasquatch" crowd that pops up on the Blog from time to time!

Nice mount.

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from davidpetzal wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

To All: I should mention that Brian Geer's next project is a giant short-faced bear, which checked out about 12,000 years ago. This critter stood 5 feet tall at the shoulder, 12 feet tall on its hind legs, and may have weighed as much as 2,500 pounds.

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from crm3006 wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Nice mount. Since these critters could go a little over 850 lbs, they were not anything to fool around with. Closest thing we have to them now is the Siberian Tiger?

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from crm3006 wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Don't want to mess with that bear, either!

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from Koldkut wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Dave, does his wife do this work with him? I know of a husband/wife team that works out of WY that does some outstanding award winning work. I just don't know his name, her parents live up the road. Just wondering if this may be the same couple.

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from davidpetzal wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

To Koldkut: Dunno. I was rushing around madly at SCI trying to cover everything and not buy every $25,000 gun I saw, so I did not get to spend much time with Mr. Geer.

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from TJ wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Very cool, waiting for that chupacabra mount.

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from Happy Myles wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Dave you must have had quite a week attending first the SHOT Show, then off to SCI. I heard someone say one full lap at SCI was eight plus miles. Must confess I did not check the veracity of the statement. Spent my time visiting with friends and picking my spots so to speak. As always a great adventure. Am going back to Camaroon for another go at Sitatunga in April, then back to South Africa early July more or less as a chaperone.

Smilodon Populator, is it related to our Alligator? As you wrote, to see the quality and variety of the taxidermy is amazing

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from buckhunter wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

The guy up the road from me quit his taxidermy business to concentrate solely on replicating dinosaurs. He made quite a name for himself in the mid 80's making giant life sized dinosaurs for museums, hollywood and amusement parks to name a few. Last I heard he was working for the Smithsonian. A far cry from doing deer heads in his garage.

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from MLH wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

I hope he also has an Irish elk and a woolly rhino on his mind.

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from IowaGuy wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Glad man invented blackpowder! We worry about gutting a deer and having a bear come up, even with friends with high-powers helping us.

Imagine facing this thing with a stone tipped spear! Makes you wonder just how up the food chain mankind was 10,000 years ago.

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from Sneaky wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Where did he get a hide for a bear like that? Was the original frozen in ice, or is he getting it from existing bears?

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from jbird wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Great mount. Wish you could've stood next to it to give a little more sense of the size of the thing. I think it's really cool that the guy is doing mounts of extinct animals. Gives you a better perspective of what the critter really looked like than some CGI on tv, or a drawing. Iowaguy, you're right, those folks were some tough SOB's to wander the woods w/ these kittys.

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from davidpetzal wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

To Sneaky: Two possibilities. He may have been pulling my leg, but I don't think so. Second, he will have to patch together a number of hides from currently defunct bears and make a skull form from scratch, since there is nothing like the giant short-faced bear around today.

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from Beekeeper wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

I saw a TV show a while back that featured a Liger. He was only about half grown and weighed nearly 1000 pounds. That brings on a whole new meaning to Here kitty, kitty... As somwhat of a nut over extinct mammals especially Smilodon, I enjoyed seeing the photo. It is much more creative than the digital recreations you see on the History Channel. Very good work! Thanks Dave!

A short faced bear would be interesting, maybe he could use to Brown Bear hides...

The link below shows the afore mentioned Liger. The shot of him with his feet on the platform of a tripod stand makes me pucker a bit...

http://www.naturesafariindia.com/liger.html

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from Sneaky wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Thanks Dave. That's what I figured. It's truly amazing what a skilled taxidermist can do.

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from crm3006 wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Anyone-
Is a liger a natural occurrence, or a hybrid?
I thought lions were restricted to Africa, and Tigers to Asia.
Beekeeper, thanks for the link, that is QUITE a kitty-cat!

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from Beekeeper wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

CRM,

According to a reference book I have Ligers are a "planned" hybrid. It appears that due to larger size a caesarian birth is sometimes required. It is thought that at one time they may have occured naturally in the wild when lion and tiger habitat touched in southern Asia. They get much larger than either parent due to hybrid vigor...

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from BrigMarine wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

I want that mount!

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from crm3006 wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Beekeeper-
Questions keep on coming-
Are ligers mules, or fertile?
Has there been one recorded in modern times that was a natural occurrence?

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from Bella wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

What an awesome Smilodon! That cat could advertise toothpolish!I enjoyed an exhibit of megafauna from the La Brea Tarpits in LA. It is hard to comprehend the size of this kitty till you see the skeleton up close, they were huge, with teeth like bowie knives. Get out yer express rifles for this hunt or yer Barrett .50 at least!

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from libertyfirst wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Beautiful work! The man has a tremendous talent! It's wonderful to get a look at what once was. I agree with Bella- a big rifle would be handy!

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from freeparking wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Smilodon hunt'n: 270 v. 3006?

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from Carney wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Deb: What are you drawing?
Napoleon Dynamite: A liger.
Deb: What's a liger?
Napoleon Dynamite: It's pretty much my favorite animal. It's like a lion and a tiger mixed... bred for its skills in magic.

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from Walt Smith wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

I've seen quite a few shows on the short faced bear. We all should be quite thankful they are extinct. The size of the skull compared to a brown bear is mind blowing.

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from focusfront wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Fantastic mount! Give this guy an "A" for effort and execution! Not a museum in the world has a mount this cool in it.

Here's my usual two cents' worth. Odds are that while a Smilodon would have eaten anything made of meat, it probably couldn't have taken a horse because it couldn't have caught one. Most paleontologists think Smilodon's huge canines and bulky build suited it to hunting very large, thick skinned, slower moving animals. It would have gone for young, crippled, or very old Mammoths, Mastodons, rhinos, giant ground sloths, etc. Smilodon would only have been able to prey on extremely unlucky deer, antelope, horses, elk, buffalo, or anything small or fast. After the human hunters wiped out all the really big animals, Smilodon went away, too.

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from Ralph the Rifleman wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

That's one BIG,Scary, cat!

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from cbanks wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Dave: You, too can have a smilodon trophy (replica) of your very own: check out http://itsophia.com/55843/feature.html

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from shane wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

It is said that the massive canines are useless for biting, they were too long to open the jaw past them. They kept the mouth closed and used them as - well...sabers - slashing and stabbing with them.

Bound to be in the Answers section -

Q: "How can you bait a smilodon?"

A: "Remington 870."

Q: "Do you think I can use my .223 to hunt smilodon?"

A: "Shot placement."

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from alabamaoutlaw wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Mans ability to harness fire and the domestication of the wolves of those days were of great help to him safeguarding him and his camp.A man wandering on his own was foder for such predators.
There is no doubt in my mind that there was and is a difference in a hunter or man of that day compared to today,they were some badasses individuals.

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from Zermoid wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

In that day "Couch Potatoes" would have truly been potatoes, a staple food for the indigenous fauna.

The weak did not survive for long back then, might have been a good thing too.

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from focusfront wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Shane:

Everything about how Smilodon hunted is a guess, as there is no modern predator that specifically targets pachyderms.

The best guess seems to be this. Smilodon had an extremely thick skull, strong neck and shoulders, and weak lower jaw. Mostly likely he would attack by opening his mouth to expose those long canines, then deeply stab his prey, the shoulder and neck muscles driving the canines home rather than the biting force of the bottom jaw. After deeply wounding his thick skinned target he'd disengage, then follow the bleeding victim until it dropped due to blood loss. This is exactly how Komodo Dragons hunt, and for that matter most sharks operate the same way; seriously wound the prey, then track it until it stops moving.

What we don't know is if they were solitary animals, or hunted as part of a pride. A half-dozen sabertoothed cats all biting at once could probably take down anything they could catch up with. Again, who knows.

Alabamaoutlaw:

You hit the nail on the head. Teamwork always wins in the end, and men and dogs are a team.

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from p852pck wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Old joke, a man's two pets die at the same time. The taxidermist asks if he would like them mounted. He says"no, they were just friends"

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from JohnR wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Beekeeper great link. I am somewhat confused by the final weight...90 tonns? Is that weight (tonns) from a different set of measurements (as British)?
The Smilodon mount is fantastic. Now we can settle back and debate guns, loads, and hunt strategy. :-)

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from Beekeeper wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

CRM,
It appears Ligers are infertile as a hybrid. No one knows of a "naturally" mated Liger in recent times.

John,

I think that is a mis print. The adult weight of the liger is around 1000 pounds.

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from Jim in Mo wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Beekeeper,
I believe you are absolutely correct that the Liger is infertile much as the mule (horse/donkey) is infertile.
Dave I'm glad the short nosed bear is extinct, it would render the '06 and 338 obsolete in it's neck of the woods.

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from Big Ed wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Hey Dave,

Got a few comments, although I am not a vertebrate paleo guy. I suspect this should not be referred to as S. populator since these were mainly a south american species. Probably should be S. fatalis, the common north american type. Also, the sabers did not flare to the sides as shown, but this is likely an adaptation to the available forms. Also, the body weights seem a bit high, probably more in line with 300± lbs for fatalis. Not to say that this was not a serious critter! I think we are talking .375 H&H or .458 WM at a minimum for this kitty.

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from O Garcia wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

ligers are hybrids, like mules. While very, very rare mules are capable of reproducing, most mules we will ever see are sterile.

mules have the size of their horse/mare mother, so logically ligers should have the size of their tiger mother. but they're actually larger. The liger has no growth inhibitor as a result of the union, and accdg to scientists, it theoretically could grow as long as it lives. in the National Geographic show "Supercat" the liger was placed side by side with a Siberian, and the tiger looked like a juvenile.

Smilodon are denser, more "packed" than modern cats. The closest we have is the lion.

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from O Garcia wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

I think it was also shown in Nat Geo that one of the supersized bears (I forgot if it was the short-faced or the cave bear) couldn't compete with the modern bears because its long spindly legs and massive body actually made it less mobile. Maybe the bears we have today are the best ones.

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from Del in KS wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Tigons and Ligers get huge. About a couple years ago I recieved the email about these big cats in an animal park in Florida. The tigon has a male tiger crossed with a lioness and the liger is the cross with a male lion and a tigress. I still have that message it looks like the same pics Bee posted.

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from matt28 wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

An astounding piece of art. However, Dave, I being a biology major (read: no imagination or sense of humor) feel the need to rap your knuckles with the switch of taxonomy. On the lower rungs of the taxonomical ladder we have (high to lowest) genus, species, and finaly subspecies. There are in fact, six SPECIES of Smilodon which are recognized: S. gracilis, S. fatalis, S. populator, S. californicus, S. floridus, and S. neogaeus. SUBSPECIES is a lower (as far as one can go) level of classification typically based on minor differences in color, pattern, or similar concerns, i.e. the midget deer of the Florida Keys being a subspecies of the larger, similar-looking, and tasty white-tailed deer we all know. Smilodon is a genus, not a species, and it is not possible to have a subspecies of a genus.

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from tbogg10 wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

well all i can say is i hope i never cross one of their paths, but it would be pretty sweet to see one of those beasts from a safe viewing range

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from jwallen wrote 2 years 15 weeks ago

I just had to stare at this picture for a few minutes. It makes you wonder what kind of skills the first people of North America must have had to be able to deal with animals like this. Weakness would not be an option!

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from grant77 wrote 1 year 45 weeks ago

awsome work!

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from Beekeeper wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

CRM,

According to a reference book I have Ligers are a "planned" hybrid. It appears that due to larger size a caesarian birth is sometimes required. It is thought that at one time they may have occured naturally in the wild when lion and tiger habitat touched in southern Asia. They get much larger than either parent due to hybrid vigor...

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from MLH wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Now I know where to send that woolly mammoth pelt.

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from buckhunter wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

The guy up the road from me quit his taxidermy business to concentrate solely on replicating dinosaurs. He made quite a name for himself in the mid 80's making giant life sized dinosaurs for museums, hollywood and amusement parks to name a few. Last I heard he was working for the Smithsonian. A far cry from doing deer heads in his garage.

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from crm3006 wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Beekeeper-
Questions keep on coming-
Are ligers mules, or fertile?
Has there been one recorded in modern times that was a natural occurrence?

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from Bella wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

What an awesome Smilodon! That cat could advertise toothpolish!I enjoyed an exhibit of megafauna from the La Brea Tarpits in LA. It is hard to comprehend the size of this kitty till you see the skeleton up close, they were huge, with teeth like bowie knives. Get out yer express rifles for this hunt or yer Barrett .50 at least!

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from focusfront wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Shane:

Everything about how Smilodon hunted is a guess, as there is no modern predator that specifically targets pachyderms.

The best guess seems to be this. Smilodon had an extremely thick skull, strong neck and shoulders, and weak lower jaw. Mostly likely he would attack by opening his mouth to expose those long canines, then deeply stab his prey, the shoulder and neck muscles driving the canines home rather than the biting force of the bottom jaw. After deeply wounding his thick skinned target he'd disengage, then follow the bleeding victim until it dropped due to blood loss. This is exactly how Komodo Dragons hunt, and for that matter most sharks operate the same way; seriously wound the prey, then track it until it stops moving.

What we don't know is if they were solitary animals, or hunted as part of a pride. A half-dozen sabertoothed cats all biting at once could probably take down anything they could catch up with. Again, who knows.

Alabamaoutlaw:

You hit the nail on the head. Teamwork always wins in the end, and men and dogs are a team.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

I'll need to bookmark this page so I can reference it to the "What would you do if you saw a Sasquatch" crowd that pops up on the Blog from time to time!

Nice mount.

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from TJ wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Very cool, waiting for that chupacabra mount.

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from jbird wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Great mount. Wish you could've stood next to it to give a little more sense of the size of the thing. I think it's really cool that the guy is doing mounts of extinct animals. Gives you a better perspective of what the critter really looked like than some CGI on tv, or a drawing. Iowaguy, you're right, those folks were some tough SOB's to wander the woods w/ these kittys.

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from davidpetzal wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

To Sneaky: Two possibilities. He may have been pulling my leg, but I don't think so. Second, he will have to patch together a number of hides from currently defunct bears and make a skull form from scratch, since there is nothing like the giant short-faced bear around today.

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from Carney wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Deb: What are you drawing?
Napoleon Dynamite: A liger.
Deb: What's a liger?
Napoleon Dynamite: It's pretty much my favorite animal. It's like a lion and a tiger mixed... bred for its skills in magic.

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from focusfront wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Fantastic mount! Give this guy an "A" for effort and execution! Not a museum in the world has a mount this cool in it.

Here's my usual two cents' worth. Odds are that while a Smilodon would have eaten anything made of meat, it probably couldn't have taken a horse because it couldn't have caught one. Most paleontologists think Smilodon's huge canines and bulky build suited it to hunting very large, thick skinned, slower moving animals. It would have gone for young, crippled, or very old Mammoths, Mastodons, rhinos, giant ground sloths, etc. Smilodon would only have been able to prey on extremely unlucky deer, antelope, horses, elk, buffalo, or anything small or fast. After the human hunters wiped out all the really big animals, Smilodon went away, too.

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from Ralph the Rifleman wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

That's one BIG,Scary, cat!

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from shane wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

It is said that the massive canines are useless for biting, they were too long to open the jaw past them. They kept the mouth closed and used them as - well...sabers - slashing and stabbing with them.

Bound to be in the Answers section -

Q: "How can you bait a smilodon?"

A: "Remington 870."

Q: "Do you think I can use my .223 to hunt smilodon?"

A: "Shot placement."

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from PbHead wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

A 650 pound kitty! Now I know why you like the big calibers so much.

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from Mike Diehl wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

That's nice work indeed! The National Museum of Natural History or maybe the Field Museum could use some of those.

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from davidpetzal wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

To All: I should mention that Brian Geer's next project is a giant short-faced bear, which checked out about 12,000 years ago. This critter stood 5 feet tall at the shoulder, 12 feet tall on its hind legs, and may have weighed as much as 2,500 pounds.

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from crm3006 wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Nice mount. Since these critters could go a little over 850 lbs, they were not anything to fool around with. Closest thing we have to them now is the Siberian Tiger?

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from crm3006 wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Don't want to mess with that bear, either!

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from Koldkut wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Dave, does his wife do this work with him? I know of a husband/wife team that works out of WY that does some outstanding award winning work. I just don't know his name, her parents live up the road. Just wondering if this may be the same couple.

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from davidpetzal wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

To Koldkut: Dunno. I was rushing around madly at SCI trying to cover everything and not buy every $25,000 gun I saw, so I did not get to spend much time with Mr. Geer.

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from Happy Myles wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Dave you must have had quite a week attending first the SHOT Show, then off to SCI. I heard someone say one full lap at SCI was eight plus miles. Must confess I did not check the veracity of the statement. Spent my time visiting with friends and picking my spots so to speak. As always a great adventure. Am going back to Camaroon for another go at Sitatunga in April, then back to South Africa early July more or less as a chaperone.

Smilodon Populator, is it related to our Alligator? As you wrote, to see the quality and variety of the taxidermy is amazing

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from MLH wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

I hope he also has an Irish elk and a woolly rhino on his mind.

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from IowaGuy wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Glad man invented blackpowder! We worry about gutting a deer and having a bear come up, even with friends with high-powers helping us.

Imagine facing this thing with a stone tipped spear! Makes you wonder just how up the food chain mankind was 10,000 years ago.

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from Sneaky wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Where did he get a hide for a bear like that? Was the original frozen in ice, or is he getting it from existing bears?

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from Beekeeper wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

I saw a TV show a while back that featured a Liger. He was only about half grown and weighed nearly 1000 pounds. That brings on a whole new meaning to Here kitty, kitty... As somwhat of a nut over extinct mammals especially Smilodon, I enjoyed seeing the photo. It is much more creative than the digital recreations you see on the History Channel. Very good work! Thanks Dave!

A short faced bear would be interesting, maybe he could use to Brown Bear hides...

The link below shows the afore mentioned Liger. The shot of him with his feet on the platform of a tripod stand makes me pucker a bit...

http://www.naturesafariindia.com/liger.html

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from crm3006 wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Anyone-
Is a liger a natural occurrence, or a hybrid?
I thought lions were restricted to Africa, and Tigers to Asia.
Beekeeper, thanks for the link, that is QUITE a kitty-cat!

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from BrigMarine wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

I want that mount!

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from libertyfirst wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Beautiful work! The man has a tremendous talent! It's wonderful to get a look at what once was. I agree with Bella- a big rifle would be handy!

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from freeparking wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Smilodon hunt'n: 270 v. 3006?

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from Walt Smith wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

I've seen quite a few shows on the short faced bear. We all should be quite thankful they are extinct. The size of the skull compared to a brown bear is mind blowing.

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from cbanks wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Dave: You, too can have a smilodon trophy (replica) of your very own: check out http://itsophia.com/55843/feature.html

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from alabamaoutlaw wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Mans ability to harness fire and the domestication of the wolves of those days were of great help to him safeguarding him and his camp.A man wandering on his own was foder for such predators.
There is no doubt in my mind that there was and is a difference in a hunter or man of that day compared to today,they were some badasses individuals.

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from Zermoid wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

In that day "Couch Potatoes" would have truly been potatoes, a staple food for the indigenous fauna.

The weak did not survive for long back then, might have been a good thing too.

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from matt28 wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

An astounding piece of art. However, Dave, I being a biology major (read: no imagination or sense of humor) feel the need to rap your knuckles with the switch of taxonomy. On the lower rungs of the taxonomical ladder we have (high to lowest) genus, species, and finaly subspecies. There are in fact, six SPECIES of Smilodon which are recognized: S. gracilis, S. fatalis, S. populator, S. californicus, S. floridus, and S. neogaeus. SUBSPECIES is a lower (as far as one can go) level of classification typically based on minor differences in color, pattern, or similar concerns, i.e. the midget deer of the Florida Keys being a subspecies of the larger, similar-looking, and tasty white-tailed deer we all know. Smilodon is a genus, not a species, and it is not possible to have a subspecies of a genus.

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from Sneaky wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Thanks Dave. That's what I figured. It's truly amazing what a skilled taxidermist can do.

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from p852pck wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Old joke, a man's two pets die at the same time. The taxidermist asks if he would like them mounted. He says"no, they were just friends"

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from JohnR wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Beekeeper great link. I am somewhat confused by the final weight...90 tonns? Is that weight (tonns) from a different set of measurements (as British)?
The Smilodon mount is fantastic. Now we can settle back and debate guns, loads, and hunt strategy. :-)

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from Beekeeper wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

CRM,
It appears Ligers are infertile as a hybrid. No one knows of a "naturally" mated Liger in recent times.

John,

I think that is a mis print. The adult weight of the liger is around 1000 pounds.

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from Jim in Mo wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Beekeeper,
I believe you are absolutely correct that the Liger is infertile much as the mule (horse/donkey) is infertile.
Dave I'm glad the short nosed bear is extinct, it would render the '06 and 338 obsolete in it's neck of the woods.

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from Big Ed wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Hey Dave,

Got a few comments, although I am not a vertebrate paleo guy. I suspect this should not be referred to as S. populator since these were mainly a south american species. Probably should be S. fatalis, the common north american type. Also, the sabers did not flare to the sides as shown, but this is likely an adaptation to the available forms. Also, the body weights seem a bit high, probably more in line with 300± lbs for fatalis. Not to say that this was not a serious critter! I think we are talking .375 H&H or .458 WM at a minimum for this kitty.

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from O Garcia wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

ligers are hybrids, like mules. While very, very rare mules are capable of reproducing, most mules we will ever see are sterile.

mules have the size of their horse/mare mother, so logically ligers should have the size of their tiger mother. but they're actually larger. The liger has no growth inhibitor as a result of the union, and accdg to scientists, it theoretically could grow as long as it lives. in the National Geographic show "Supercat" the liger was placed side by side with a Siberian, and the tiger looked like a juvenile.

Smilodon are denser, more "packed" than modern cats. The closest we have is the lion.

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from O Garcia wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

I think it was also shown in Nat Geo that one of the supersized bears (I forgot if it was the short-faced or the cave bear) couldn't compete with the modern bears because its long spindly legs and massive body actually made it less mobile. Maybe the bears we have today are the best ones.

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from Del in KS wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

Tigons and Ligers get huge. About a couple years ago I recieved the email about these big cats in an animal park in Florida. The tigon has a male tiger crossed with a lioness and the liger is the cross with a male lion and a tigress. I still have that message it looks like the same pics Bee posted.

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from tbogg10 wrote 2 years 16 weeks ago

well all i can say is i hope i never cross one of their paths, but it would be pretty sweet to see one of those beasts from a safe viewing range

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from grant77 wrote 1 year 45 weeks ago

awsome work!

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from jwallen wrote 2 years 15 weeks ago

I just had to stare at this picture for a few minutes. It makes you wonder what kind of skills the first people of North America must have had to be able to deal with animals like this. Weakness would not be an option!

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