Um.. Is that man simple or suffering from a lack of sense disorder. And I am not to sure that is a job I would want when the guy said he shoots all his employess unless they make 8 figures. Just makes me wonder what the hell is wrong with some people nowadays. Gives a new meaning to the phrase Hey watch this!

Had to be a low power handload. No way is he just going to stand there and say "Oh look, my knee is shaking" if he was shot with a full power .38 special. Moron.

Reminds me of a saying I heard the other day: "There are a lot of dumb people in the world...and it is the responsibility of smart people to take advantage of them."

also it looked like a plain lead slug with out a copper jacket

Just a plain old solid lead bullet - quite a bit of expansion for sure. Seems the ballistic material and looseness over his gut just spread the force out. Hit him in the chest with the material tight against bone and the reporter might be sore and swearing.

I suppose he shoots all his employees in this relatively benign way to drive home the fact that lives depend on the quality of their work.

I call bs on this one. The physics just don't add up. I don't doubt that the jacket could stop the bullet, but the reporter should have still felt a large impact from the shot.

Perhaps a little "fine Columbian" in the back room to loosen him up... He was dude and all that...

In the slow mo you can see the slug fall after impact. But it must have been a very light load.

Man, am I impressed....not!! Something seems fishy here.That .38 acted quite "less than lethal" based on the vest wearer's response. But as WAM pointed out, it MUST be true, after all it was on the 'net and U tube. Now i did notice the pretty girl in the white top, but let's not go there.........

All right Petzal..how about you let someone shoot you with a pissant 9mm. I use +P 124 gr. bonded JHP's at 1,225 fps.
That's about 413 ft.lbs. of muzzle energy. I certainly wouldn't want it shot at me.
I also own & use a .45 ACP and yes, there is no contest about which caliber will hit harder. That said, I certainly would not care to be shot by one of my +P 9mm loads.
Aside from that I agree with you; concerning both the brain damage and the ceramic plate.
I will give the clothier this - he had a lot of you-know-what showing a picture of Chavez in his advertising.

...."Big OUCH"....

One thing I've noticed over the years about bulletproof vests and jackets--They don't just don't protect the head!

Here's some bullet proof testing that'll make you cringe:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7mr7CK7zEk

master petzal, I hope this comment is responded too. I am an avid reader, and relatively new to the world of firearms. I recently saw a steyr for sale, and remembering your praise for the pro alaskan, decided to check it out. It is, I believe, a pro-hunter carbon chambered in 7mm Rem Mag, has NO marks on the stock, the action is beautiful and functions very well, and the barrel is still blued perfectly and looks not o have seen hard action. They wan 1100 canadian, is that a reasonable deal?

Talk about armour for reporters, the guy who needs it more is the cameraman! Cameramen are always getting shot because their attention is all focused out the lens and they get "into the shot" and forget that they may not have cover.
SciFi writers predicted fashion designers like Senior Cabalero. What a lot of parents might like would be little bulletproof snorkel parkas for tiny tots, put Aramid fiber on the outer shell so they are fireproof too. Of course the key to this strategy would be to teach yer kid to get the parka on in less than 2 seconds and drill him(or her) till they can do it every time (gee just like chem war training). Being a Pollyanna Pessimist, I rather like the idea of snazzy frock impervious to handgun fire...I don't need it at all, but what a calming warm secure notion. Can you get 'em with concealed holsters? I'll take a nice Carmin Sandiego tailored red trenchcoat, thank you.

well, i can not imagine standing there and getting shot on purpose, they would have to pay me a ton of money, and do it right outside of a hospital operating room with the entire surgical staff waiting. oh yeah, they would also have to sign me up at their cost (paid in full) for a $500,000.00 life insurance policy with no clauses for the shooting.

Stupid! Why anyone would willing stand there..one in a million chance it goes wrong...

The weapon vs armor debate is age old, stone club vs. leather shield, steel sword vs bronze armor, sword vs chain mail, longbow vs plate mail, catapult vs stone wall, cannon vs oak hulled ship, 88mm vs Sherman cast armor, AK47 vs Kevlar, chobham armor vs HEAT round, and on it will go...

100 years from now it will be lasers vs nanoarmor and a bunch guys talking about how the 1,250 gigapower laser pistol is better than a 20,000 meagflux raygun and how the 5000 joule flux capacitor round on the S&W models is superior to any "pisant" little exothermic ray from a Browning, but still shaped like 1911! ;)......

Any round can be deadly and needs to be treated as such...would you rather get shot in the hand with a .338 or the heart with a .32?

PS That had to be a very low powered round, getting hit wearing body armor by a nonpenetrating high powered round, HURTS like a .......well I won't say it here

Carney

The 9mm is a good cartridge if you want to shoot something a lot. Use a .357 magnum with a good load or a .41 Rem Mag with anything when you want something shot once and for all.

That reporter was shot with a round nosed lead .38 Special bullet; one of the easiest rounds for Kevlar soft armor to stop. An FMJ 9mm is tough to stop not because it is powerful, but because its bullet is fairly pointy and smooth, and the kevlar fibers have a tougher time grabbing pointy smooth brass than they do soft, blunt lead.

As for the impact harming the reporter, Jeff Cooper once said that getting shot with a .45 ACP while wearing body armor was like getting punched by a muscular woman. You know she hit you, but your ribs are intact, in other words. Again, the .38 wouldn't have hit nearly as hard as the .45 ACP.

I've never had the pleasure of being shot while wearing body armor, but I worked with a guy who did, and he said it wasn't bad. He was only shot with pocket pistols, of course. A rifle would have been a different matter.

I don't buy it, people who get shot with bullet proof vest still walk away with a very sore chest cavity for a couple days. Maybe even bruised ribs, I mean the guy doesn't even get pushed back by the force of the bullet.

Ain't nothing wrong with a 9mm, since it's such a "girlie round" and those idiots in teh Army and Marines use it I bet you tough guys with your "manly pistols" would be willing to take a 9mm hydroshok in the chest?

With decent bullet the 9mm is deadly, the human body can only take soo much force, anything more is overkill. Shooting a person, not a 400 pound bear

Military uses 9mm carry more rounds, compatabile with NATO for supply pulling a pistol in a firefight you are in a seriousally *^*&(**(& situation. pistol is the weapon of second to last choice, right above a knife. Dude you went through tac air, BN mortars, SAW support, couple hundred rounds in the M4/M16, if reaching for a pistol you need every round the extra "stopping power" is overkill Been there done that, when all you got is a pistol takes the pucker factor through the roof

If we follow more stoppage is better give all the troops a .454? No way! too big too heavy not enough rounds lots of folks join the military hardle ever shot any kind of weapon, 9mm is easier to shoot than most other rounds

45 is an awesome round, A 1911 in .45 is standard otehrs are measured by and proven weapon no argument. But 9mm is a good round with good bullets 9mm also did great in WWI and II and provided itself, far as me, rather ditch the pistol of any size and use the saved weight to carry more 5.56

workmandave-
There is no such thing as OVERKILL when some SOB is shooting at YOU!

Hey workmandave-
So don't make inane comments to people you have no understanding of on your third day on the blog. Several people who post here are knowledgeable about taking hostile fire.

I also pick .45ACP in my 1911. As I don't have an M-4 (and don't think I'd ever need one) as well as not having access to air support My plan is that the .45 is the First thing I grab, unless I grab that wakizashi sword instead. But my worst case scenario is "only home invasion" not supressing the Brutals.
I had thought I might like to have a Luger for my collection, but for general purposes,I feel I'm better off with my 1911. The only "field" I expect to "deploy" to is my back pasture so I don't need to ever have more than an extra magazine or two. I was out getting a little practice just yesterday...

I see a fairly good flash from that muzzle. Looks like a slow burning powder to me. I agree with the assertion that it seems like a squib load. But it is hard to see the actual thickness of the over coat.