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April 02, 2010

Bourjaily: The Patron Saint of Henpecked Husbands

By Philip Bourjaily

For the record I have been happily married for 26 years and plan to stay that way. Nevertheless  . . .

To my knowledge, there is no patron saint of henpecked husbands, which leaves a space wide open for my candidate: Stede Bonnet, “the Gentleman Pirate,” whose flag is shown above. Given his profession there are obvious problems with sainthood for Bonnet. On the other hand, while being hanged for piracy doesn’t normally count as martyrdom, in his case it may.

Born to a wealthy family in Barbados in 1688, Bonnet inherited a 400 acre sugar plantation and was comfortably well off in life. Unfortunately, as recounted by pirate biographer Charles Johnson in 1724, Bonnet suffered “a disorder of the mind” due to “some discomforts he found in a married state.”

That’s the 18th century way of saying Bonnet’s wife Mary, a famous shrew, nagged him until his mind snapped. When Bonnet couldn’t stand her any longer did he get a divorce? Join a men’s group and play drums in the woods? Take up golf to get out of the house more? He did not. In 1717 he set an example for long-suffering husbands everywhere: despite being a complete landlubber and having no prior experience looting and plundering, he bought a ship, hired a crew and left home in the middle of the night to become a pirate.

You can imagine the note Mary found the next day:

“Leaving you to become a pirate.
Stede
PS I’m taking the parrot.”

Bonnet’s career didn’t last long. During his first voyage, half his crew was killed and he was wounded in a fight with a Spanish warship. While recovering, he sailed with Blackbeard for a time, splitting with him on bad terms. Back on his own, he ran his ship aground during the Battle of the Cape Fear River and was captured.  While he was denied clemency and hanged in Charleston in 1718, at least he died free and unnagged.

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from Robert Ewing wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Wow that's interesting,but my wife would make me take her along.AFTER ALL WE ARE STILL HAPPY ,RIGHT HONEY..

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from jamesti wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

there is a reason i fish and hunt as much as i do.

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from SD_Whitetail_Hntr wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

I'm engaged to be married June of 2011. I've gotten my fair share of henpecking already and look forward to many more years of it. As I'm one of those laidback, don't take anything too seriously types.

A couple repeated statements I've heard:

"Why would you possibly need another gun?"

"Do you realize how expensive your hobbies are?"

"I told you 5 times we have plans that weekend!!!"

"Hunny, I don't care how far you were away from the animal you killed."

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from huntnow wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Same here, thank God I don't get cell service in the woods or on the river or at the range. At least that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

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from wgp wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

A friend of mine, thinking ahead, arranged to have the minister at his wedding insert into the BRIDE'S vows, a promise to let her husband go hunting and fishing whenever he wanted.

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from mad_dog9999 wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

wgp, I wish I was as smart as your friend.

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from jakenbake wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

If only we all had the money to follow good Stede's example...

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from ingebrigtsen wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

SD_Whitetail_Hntr u just need to switch it around and go through the bills for makeup, shoes, handbags etc. and so on and in addition tell your girl "no WE dont have plans, U have!" :P

Either that or bring her hunting with u and get her shooting :D
Be a man not a husband first :D:D:P

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from HuntingKS wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Hunting and fishing - the great escape. While I'd love it if my wife took more of an interest in these pastimes, it's kind of nice that I still have these as a refuge.

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from ingebrigtsen wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Having a wife that occasionally hunt and fish with me or having one that nags the itty bits out of me and berates me for wanting a new gun/fishinrod?? hmmmmm, tough choice :P

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from fisherman wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

hunting and fishing are safer

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from 2Poppa wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

I had a buddy that married a "very beautiful" woman. They were married for 2-weeks and he couldn't take the high maintenance so he left and joined the "French Foreign Legion"!
He left everything behind, except his sanity ...as far as I know he is still with the Legion.

http://french-foreign-legion.com/

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from buckhunter wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

My wife is wonderful. There. I said it. Can I go fishing now?

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from Del in KS wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

I only have three words for SD whitetail hnter RUN,RUN,RUN!!! Until you find a girl that likes to hunt.

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from Del in KS wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Just kidding!!!heh,heh.

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from Happy Myles wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

If anyone in my family runs off to become a buccaneer, it would probably be my wife. She is a real pistol. 46 years of marriage, I am too old to break in a new one.

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from Bernie wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

I've been extremely fortunate to have been married to the same woman for 27 years, and she has been very tolerant of my hunting and guns. Nowadays, she might say, "Dear, I think you have enough guns and handmade knives." But if I really want another, I buy it and nothing more is said.

I have lost count of the number of hen-pecked men I have met in my life--they can hunt only a few weekends a year, can't have any mounted heads in the house, and heaven forbid if they ever go on a trip with male friends and have a good time! Young men need to reach an understanding with their women on hunting, fishing, guns etc. before they get "roped in", and then stand firm. Otherwise, it is easy to get emasculated.

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from ishawooa wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

My wife hunted, camped, and fished with me for years until she got pitched off a horse and broke her neck. This lead to an early retirement from her 22 year teaching career as well. We've been married for 34 years and I do miss her camp cooking. Regardless she still knows how much I enjoy the outdoors and urges me to continue. Maybe this is a way of getting me out of the house and out from under her feet. My sister on the other hand is anti-hunting, barely tolerates gun owners, probably is a member of PETA, and certainly sends in money to all the animal rights people who advertise on TV. We barely speak to each other every year or so.

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from seadog wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

SD Whitetail Hntr, congrats on your future nuptuals. I hope she's as good as Mrs. Seadog--20 years and I still love her as much as I did on the wedding day. She likes to remind me that the gun safe is already past full, but she doesn't make a big fuss if I buy one anyway. Take Bernie's advice & train her while she's young. Some women tend to try to change you--hold your ground. You have to compromise a little, but if you compromise too much you'll be the new patron saint of henpecked husbands.

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from 007 wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

SD Whitetail Hunter, wives are like a good dog, get one when she's young, train her right, and she'll make you a lifetime companion. Just don't make the same mistake I made and tell your lady that. Mine was not amused. It is what you make of it tho. If mine will tolerate me two more months it will be 32 great years.

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from Happy Myles wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Ishawooa.
Over a two month period my wife sprained an ankle attempting a double axel jump on ice skates, then broke her back when her horse stopped out in the finals of an open Grand Prix jumper class. She was in her early 50's at the time. Since then she has hung up her skates and saddle.
that was 15 years or so ago

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from PbHead wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Escaping to the high seas is always a noble path. If this is not an option and it is not too late, consider picking a wife who has a father, brothers, or uncles who hunt and/or fish. Then the 0300 get-ups and coming home covered with slough slime and feathers seems normal to her.

Also, if you spouse suggest that you have too many guns, point out that she has way too much jewelry.

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from PbHead wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

I forgot to wish everyone a Happy Easter, so Happy Easter everybody!

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from randwarner wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Best Blog Post. Ever. Arghhh

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from Jere Smith wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Resist at all costs once the sink the spurs they never take them off. ;)

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from Beekeeper wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

I must be a lucky man! My wife loves to hunt and fish and encourages me to go when she can't. She does get tired of the noise made by turkey calls though...

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from Hunter Savage wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Arr matey been thar dun dat , and me timbers got shivered and splintered by the wench I call the wicked witch of the west. I tell ye this I wont set a course for that port never agin !!!!!!!

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from JOHN ANDERSON wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

"Free and Unnagged!Now thats the life for me!!Smooth sailing,For Im alone at sea where no one can bother me!!"LMAO"

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from crm3006 wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Running away to be a pirate sounds like less and less of a long range career choice. Some of the lads in Somalia or somewhere off the African coast took on the U.S. Navy.
Career Ending Decision!

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from crm3006 wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Here is the link if anyone is interested.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/apr/02/pirates-pick-wrong-targe...?

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from Bella wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Stede Bonnett was an incompetent pirate whose story reads like "Mr. Bean goes to sea". Likely he was henpecked because he was such a putz and putting to sea only proved that some people will screw anything up. I'm more of a fan of Anne Bonney and Mary Read. I had an ancestor who came over on the Mayflower, named William Bonney, we could be related even. Still Calico Jack Rackham may have been a fancy dresser, but like most pirates was too much of a drunk to save his own (or Mary and Anne's) skin.
I don't henpeck my husband, I don't have to, besidesa I liked him when I took up with him, why would I want to change him? Anyway in our house, the guns are mine, not his. His preferred weapon is a keyboard.

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from dukkillr wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

I knew we could count on Bella to have an issue with this post. Bingo.

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from ingebrigtsen wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

And to all you wildcats out over the sea a link to a free book all u henpecked husbands and boyfriends and even singles should read, and what ho its free ;)
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4924914/Frank_B._Kermit__Everything_Out_...

And since were setting up for a lazy night in bed we introduce some sweet seduction music that will work on anything female; and if not your not doing it right :D:P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T20SuBHqpQ

To all a good night and a hope of peace a night for all worlds people from radio norway :)

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from Happy Myles wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Bella.
I am glad you are here

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from Jim in Mo wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

I think the guy led a much happier if not shorter life doing as he did. There has been twice in my life as regulars here know, that I should have done the same thing Bonnet did..
Ish, Happy; dang guys I love horses but they are so powerful. When I ride them the most I can do is keep them on the trail, the hell with jumping, etc. Of course maybe that's a woman's way of living out a fantasy as us guys do. Hope for the best for your ladies, they are special aren't they? Why the hell I don't know but I keep going back.

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from Jeff4066 wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Oh, I don't know. After 19 years of marriage, I finally got to hear those three simple words every loyal husband wants, but rarely gets, from his wife...

"You were right."

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from jamesti wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

my ex hated all the hunting and fishing i did even if i was doing it with my daughters or her son. not long before our marriage ended, she was always encouraging me to go whenever i wanted. i'll let you guess why!

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from ingebrigtsen wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago
from smallfrey wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

hey phil, then who is my patron saint? my husband brings me along so he can double his limit!!!

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from philbourjaily wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Bella -- Always fun to read your posts. It comes as no surprise to any of us that you have strong opinions on pirates. No doubt that even on their worst day either Mary Read or Ann Bonney could out-pirate Stede Bonnet, who was pretty much of a loser. To me, that makes his story even better.
Ingebrigsten -- I'm dating myself here, but good song choice.

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from Ralph the Rifleman wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Now Phil,
This is an interesting story, as pirate stories go...we recently celebrated our 27th year together.
Personally, I'll remain married VS getting the hangeman's noose.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Bella

While I don't always agree with your politics, I applaud your audacity in throwing them out her knowing full well you are going to get flame sprayed!

I also enjoy your historical perspectives and related posts. Keep on keeping on!

best regards

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Aarrgh! The beatings will continue until morale improves!

http://www.cmt.com/videos/misc/493588/a-pirate-looks-at-40-from-cmt-cros...

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from Zermoid wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Well at least I'm not henpecked, the wife told me so just yesterday..............

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from buckhunter wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Thank you WA Mtnhunter. That's just what I needed to get ingebrigstens song out of my head. (nothing personal inge). I've been to more Buffet concerts than I can count and still can't get enough.

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from Ed J wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

WAM Isn't that suposed to be "The flogings".
Enjoyed the flash back.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Ed J

In strict nautical jargon, I believe you are correct with floggings!

I bet there are more than a few Parrotheads on here!

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from jwallen wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

When I met my wife she was a seventeen year old runaway living in Barrow, Alaska. She had a model 70 in .300 Winchester Magnum and had killed her own caribou. She wore a fur parka with a wolverine fur ruff that she had made herself. Thirty five years later she still scares me a little. Henpeck away dear, you are probably right. I am the luckiest man in the world!

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from kudukid wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

My wife told me early on that if was considering disagreeing with her I would be wise to take a hike.

Long happiness in said marriage has been due in large part to living a mostly outdoor life.

Long live hunting and fishing.

P.S. If you have the hutzpah, try going on an elk hunt in Colorado on your anniversary.

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from elmer f. wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

the only real problem with being married for a long time is there just isnt much to get excited about anymore. it is funny that most men pick up a fishing pole or gun and go play in the woods, while women sit at home and gab on the phone all day. we truely are 2 different species. that realisticly get together to procreate. sometimes, i wonder if marrige sholdnt be a 20 year hitch, instead of a lifetime sentance.

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from Bella wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Thanks Phil and WMt hunter for the good words. I've read a lot about the Brotherhood of the Coast.
It seemed like a lot of seafairers turned pirate because they was plumb whipsawed, damned to starve on land or serve at sea. All those fellows who got letters of Marque during Queen Anne's War just too late for action, but who had still invested lot's o gelt at the Ship's Chandlers to make ready for sea had to recoup their investment somehow. Still the world is a big place, pirating never ended and still goes on. One wonders why more pirates didn't sail to Asia for booty, with no British Navy to hinder them on the other side of the world?

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from Bella wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Oh and guys, I know only too well that there are guys out there who would flame me for saying "Good Morning", but it is a public venue and I know I have as much right as anybody else to post opinions about stuff. There are a lot of people who would rather listen to nothing but the voices in their own heads which makes what I write all the more important, just to establish diversity of thought. I am not concerned about Minuses, I have been out of Grammar school many years. If they flame my house, then I will have blood in my eye but little symbols at the bottom of a post make little difference. Besides vigorous discussion stimulates the mind.

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from nc30-06 wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Your last post Bella, had a -1. I cancelled it. I disagree with a lot you say, but as the saying goes, I will defend your right to say it.

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from Happy Myles wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

I have to chuckle. While sitting here reading of wives, parrots, and piracy, my wife's parrot is squawking over my shoulder . She is back east for a month so I am bird sitting while she is along the Bounding Main. Naw, I am not hen pecked.

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from Mark-1 wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

I consider Girlfriends/SO's/Wives...scorekeepers. I noticed my life was less complicated without these score- keepers.

BTW have you ever noticed how affectionate women are when you bring home something big, hairy, and bloody to eat? Must be something ancient hard-wired into the DNA.

Bella, If you suddenly become free, can we date? I will admit I'm on the wrong side of 60, but trim with all parts working....more or less.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Just be sure to get the last word in..... as in "YES, DEAR"!

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from dukkillr wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Mark-1 - I have never had that happen to me! Last fall, I called my girlfriend after I shot the first deer of the season and she said "You killed Bambi!" So I naturally tried Bill Heavey's response and said "No, this isn't Bambi! This deer was bullying Bambi and stealing his lunch money at school..." but she didn't buy it. Geez. What does a fellow have to do to catch a break around here?

Bella - Good point about the letters of marque, I had never thought of it that way before.

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from Happy Myles wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Groucho Marx said " a wise husband keeps his mouth shut and his check book open "

Will Rogers did not believe in the equality of women, rather he believed in the superiority of women. However he did hedge his bet by predicting with civilizations progress " the time ain't far off when a woman won't know any more than a man. "

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from Del in KS wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

It's been 36+ years since me and my gal met and married. It hasn't all been smooth sailin' but she's a keeper. Before you get married ask yourself do I trust this woman with my bank account and all my worldly goods? Is there any doubt in your mind that she will do the right thing in your absence? Have you ever caught her in even a little lie? If so you might want to rethink that marriage thing. Once you're hitched you can pay dearly for a bad decision. Remember she gets half of everything and you get the bill in the event of a divorce.

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from Del in KS wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Oh and Bella I usually don't agree with you but I too gave you +'s. It's that freedom of speech thing.

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from Happy Myles wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Whoops, my last comments were supposed to be a segue into wishing all a thankful Easter. Rumor has it that due to my advanced senility, I get to track down Easter eggs left by a wiley rogue lagomorph, of course with the aid of my three grandchildren. Nice to make the traveling squad.

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from Jere Smith wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubertus

Patron Saint of Hunter's above.

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from Carney wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Been married once. We celebrate 23 years this summer. I believe that maleness and femaleness were designed to be complementary, not antagonistic -- but self centeredness has a way of blurring the purpose for the differences...

If you can spare 10 minutes, you will all probably enjoy this video from Mark Gungor: A Tale of Two Brains.
http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=GuMZ73mT5zM&feature=fvw

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from Zermoid wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Bella,

No Flamin' here, spout off whenever ya see fit!
As has been said before, I may not agree with all you say, but I'll defend your right to say it.

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from Del in KS wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Happy there's a question for you in the answer section.

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from focusfront wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Dukkiller: find another girl.

I love my wife of many years and even when I know she is manipulating me, I almost always do what she wants anyway. Having said that, women are dangerous. How dangerous?

Consider Roy Sullivan, aka "Dooms", the park ranger who is in the Guinness Book of World Records for being struck by lightning SEVEN times. He survived all those strikes.

But he'd dead now. He committed suicide over a woman.

Shoulda become a pirate instead. Arrrrr.

W

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from BowtechWVU wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Cool post about a interesting article

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from KJ wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

You know why husbands die before their wives?

They want to.

Bonnet proves the point.

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from Ed J wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Happy Myles is not henpecked he is parrot pecked. heh heh heh.

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from Jim in Mo wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Hey yea, Happy Easter to all Christians, and to those who think it un-pc, tough.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Jim in Mo

Right. I don't taunt folks about Ramadan, Winter Solstice, Halloween, Mardi Gras, or whatever they observe. I don't expect them to call the PC Police on me either. More than 83% of Americans claim Christianity of one sort or another. A greeting to the crowd on the holiest of days is not inappropriate in my book.

He is risen!

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from Shaky wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Caeney; I was reading to the end of comments to write just what you said, but since you already said it, I don't have to. Happily married 37 years and counting. We neither nag nor become combative with each other. "And they twain shall become one flesh". On the other hand, had I been Stede, rather than become a pirate and intentionally murder innocent people, I'd probably just have shot her and hidden the evidence somewhere on my vast sugarcane plantation. Oh, and I wouldn't let the parrot witness the act.

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from Jere Smith wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Passover just ended, Happy Easter to those who observe it.

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from Jere Smith wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

And if it's not pc tuff.

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from waldman79 wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

CAN YOU USE A DUCK BOAT TO BECOME A PIRATE? AND CAN A YELLOW LAB REPLACE A PARROT?

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from Carney wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Several points:
Shaky: Congratulations on 37 years of marital bliss. Thankfully, neither you nor I are Stede, so we don't have to worry about the parrot...

Moishe: We should have expected from your name that you celebrate Passover -- I celebrate it too. AND also First Fruits!

Finally, I notice that my name now has 5 stars beside it when I comment. I am more fulfilled than I can possibly say. It suffices that I tell, "I could now die a happy man."

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from nc30-06 wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Congratulations Carney. I am still aspiring.

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from kenthebusdriver wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

My wife says if I ever leave her, she's coming with me.

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from Carney wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

NC30-06:
I +1'd you to get you closer to the next star!

Kenthebusdriver:
That's the kind of wife a guy needs!

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from 007 wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

To those of you still blessed to have your mothers, remember, they can be just as threatening as the wife can be. I was sitting in front of the TV at mom's one day, watching an NBA and an NCAA basketball game at the same time, remote in one hand, push-pull turkey call in the other, keeping up with both games and practicing yelps and I thought doing both rather well. Suddenly, just like in the movies, a shadow fell across me and I found Mom's finger pointing at the turkey call. Her immortal words were "either that can go, or you can go, either way is fine with me".

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from silsbyj wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

A preacher from a small town in Louisianna told me one time....."You can tell a good woman.......but you cant tell her much"!

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from VAHunter540 wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

I had some similar troubles, so I took her with me a few times, now I just bought her a new Bear Apprentice Bow (They are awesome) and she looks damn good in her Waders on a trout stream. I still get to go do what I like and now I have a great companion to go with me. And when its time to slip off to the woods or river with the fellas shes all for it because she knows I'll take her later.

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from seadog wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

I read kenthebusdriver's comment & just for laughs, I asked my wife what she'd do if I left her--she said I couldn't leave her 'cause she'd come with me. Funny thing is that I feel the same way about her. I guess we have it pretty good.

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from Sarge01 wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

I would just like everyone to know that I wear the pants in my family- I wear which ever pair she tells me to put on.

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from bluegraytx wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

I always figured wives were like guns ... you trade them in when you see something better or they wear out.

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from nc30-06 wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Thanks Carney. I need all the help I can get.

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from GERG wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Think Im gonna have to get a new tatoo!!

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

bluegraytx

Let us know how that works out for you, OK?

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from bluegraytx wrote 2 years 6 weeks ago

@WA Mtnhunter

Working out real well. Buried a couple, lost track of a couple more, and still hanging with No. 5 (a much younger model) however, the birth of 5 kids in 8 years has caused me to reconsider trade-ins. The cunundrum is: would alimony for an ex-wife and child support for 5 kids be so onerous that I'd have to hock my guns and fishing gear to stay out of jail?

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from Jere Smith wrote 2 years 6 weeks ago

A vasectomy would have saved you money there tex ;) worked well for me years ago. Only 1 son.

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from bluegraytx wrote 2 years 6 weeks ago

@Moishe

I'm guessing you shoot blanks in the field, too?

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from Bernie wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

I've been extremely fortunate to have been married to the same woman for 27 years, and she has been very tolerant of my hunting and guns. Nowadays, she might say, "Dear, I think you have enough guns and handmade knives." But if I really want another, I buy it and nothing more is said.

I have lost count of the number of hen-pecked men I have met in my life--they can hunt only a few weekends a year, can't have any mounted heads in the house, and heaven forbid if they ever go on a trip with male friends and have a good time! Young men need to reach an understanding with their women on hunting, fishing, guns etc. before they get "roped in", and then stand firm. Otherwise, it is easy to get emasculated.

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from smallfrey wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

hey phil, then who is my patron saint? my husband brings me along so he can double his limit!!!

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from Robert Ewing wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Wow that's interesting,but my wife would make me take her along.AFTER ALL WE ARE STILL HAPPY ,RIGHT HONEY..

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from jamesti wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

there is a reason i fish and hunt as much as i do.

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from SD_Whitetail_Hntr wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

I'm engaged to be married June of 2011. I've gotten my fair share of henpecking already and look forward to many more years of it. As I'm one of those laidback, don't take anything too seriously types.

A couple repeated statements I've heard:

"Why would you possibly need another gun?"

"Do you realize how expensive your hobbies are?"

"I told you 5 times we have plans that weekend!!!"

"Hunny, I don't care how far you were away from the animal you killed."

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from huntnow wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Same here, thank God I don't get cell service in the woods or on the river or at the range. At least that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

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from wgp wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

A friend of mine, thinking ahead, arranged to have the minister at his wedding insert into the BRIDE'S vows, a promise to let her husband go hunting and fishing whenever he wanted.

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from Happy Myles wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

If anyone in my family runs off to become a buccaneer, it would probably be my wife. She is a real pistol. 46 years of marriage, I am too old to break in a new one.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Jim in Mo

Right. I don't taunt folks about Ramadan, Winter Solstice, Halloween, Mardi Gras, or whatever they observe. I don't expect them to call the PC Police on me either. More than 83% of Americans claim Christianity of one sort or another. A greeting to the crowd on the holiest of days is not inappropriate in my book.

He is risen!

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from HuntingKS wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Hunting and fishing - the great escape. While I'd love it if my wife took more of an interest in these pastimes, it's kind of nice that I still have these as a refuge.

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from Del in KS wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

I only have three words for SD whitetail hnter RUN,RUN,RUN!!! Until you find a girl that likes to hunt.

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from crm3006 wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Running away to be a pirate sounds like less and less of a long range career choice. Some of the lads in Somalia or somewhere off the African coast took on the U.S. Navy.
Career Ending Decision!

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from dukkillr wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

I knew we could count on Bella to have an issue with this post. Bingo.

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from philbourjaily wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Bella -- Always fun to read your posts. It comes as no surprise to any of us that you have strong opinions on pirates. No doubt that even on their worst day either Mary Read or Ann Bonney could out-pirate Stede Bonnet, who was pretty much of a loser. To me, that makes his story even better.
Ingebrigsten -- I'm dating myself here, but good song choice.

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from Bella wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Thanks Phil and WMt hunter for the good words. I've read a lot about the Brotherhood of the Coast.
It seemed like a lot of seafairers turned pirate because they was plumb whipsawed, damned to starve on land or serve at sea. All those fellows who got letters of Marque during Queen Anne's War just too late for action, but who had still invested lot's o gelt at the Ship's Chandlers to make ready for sea had to recoup their investment somehow. Still the world is a big place, pirating never ended and still goes on. One wonders why more pirates didn't sail to Asia for booty, with no British Navy to hinder them on the other side of the world?

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from Bella wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Oh and guys, I know only too well that there are guys out there who would flame me for saying "Good Morning", but it is a public venue and I know I have as much right as anybody else to post opinions about stuff. There are a lot of people who would rather listen to nothing but the voices in their own heads which makes what I write all the more important, just to establish diversity of thought. I am not concerned about Minuses, I have been out of Grammar school many years. If they flame my house, then I will have blood in my eye but little symbols at the bottom of a post make little difference. Besides vigorous discussion stimulates the mind.

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from waldman79 wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

CAN YOU USE A DUCK BOAT TO BECOME A PIRATE? AND CAN A YELLOW LAB REPLACE A PARROT?

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from nc30-06 wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Congratulations Carney. I am still aspiring.

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from kenthebusdriver wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

My wife says if I ever leave her, she's coming with me.

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from mad_dog9999 wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

wgp, I wish I was as smart as your friend.

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from ingebrigtsen wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

SD_Whitetail_Hntr u just need to switch it around and go through the bills for makeup, shoes, handbags etc. and so on and in addition tell your girl "no WE dont have plans, U have!" :P

Either that or bring her hunting with u and get her shooting :D
Be a man not a husband first :D:D:P

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from ingebrigtsen wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Having a wife that occasionally hunt and fish with me or having one that nags the itty bits out of me and berates me for wanting a new gun/fishinrod?? hmmmmm, tough choice :P

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from 2Poppa wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

I had a buddy that married a "very beautiful" woman. They were married for 2-weeks and he couldn't take the high maintenance so he left and joined the "French Foreign Legion"!
He left everything behind, except his sanity ...as far as I know he is still with the Legion.

http://french-foreign-legion.com/

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from buckhunter wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

My wife is wonderful. There. I said it. Can I go fishing now?

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from Del in KS wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Just kidding!!!heh,heh.

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from ishawooa wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

My wife hunted, camped, and fished with me for years until she got pitched off a horse and broke her neck. This lead to an early retirement from her 22 year teaching career as well. We've been married for 34 years and I do miss her camp cooking. Regardless she still knows how much I enjoy the outdoors and urges me to continue. Maybe this is a way of getting me out of the house and out from under her feet. My sister on the other hand is anti-hunting, barely tolerates gun owners, probably is a member of PETA, and certainly sends in money to all the animal rights people who advertise on TV. We barely speak to each other every year or so.

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from PbHead wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Escaping to the high seas is always a noble path. If this is not an option and it is not too late, consider picking a wife who has a father, brothers, or uncles who hunt and/or fish. Then the 0300 get-ups and coming home covered with slough slime and feathers seems normal to her.

Also, if you spouse suggest that you have too many guns, point out that she has way too much jewelry.

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from Beekeeper wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

I must be a lucky man! My wife loves to hunt and fish and encourages me to go when she can't. She does get tired of the noise made by turkey calls though...

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from Hunter Savage wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Arr matey been thar dun dat , and me timbers got shivered and splintered by the wench I call the wicked witch of the west. I tell ye this I wont set a course for that port never agin !!!!!!!

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from Bella wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Stede Bonnett was an incompetent pirate whose story reads like "Mr. Bean goes to sea". Likely he was henpecked because he was such a putz and putting to sea only proved that some people will screw anything up. I'm more of a fan of Anne Bonney and Mary Read. I had an ancestor who came over on the Mayflower, named William Bonney, we could be related even. Still Calico Jack Rackham may have been a fancy dresser, but like most pirates was too much of a drunk to save his own (or Mary and Anne's) skin.
I don't henpeck my husband, I don't have to, besidesa I liked him when I took up with him, why would I want to change him? Anyway in our house, the guns are mine, not his. His preferred weapon is a keyboard.

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from Happy Myles wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Bella.
I am glad you are here

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from Jeff4066 wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Oh, I don't know. After 19 years of marriage, I finally got to hear those three simple words every loyal husband wants, but rarely gets, from his wife...

"You were right."

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from jamesti wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

my ex hated all the hunting and fishing i did even if i was doing it with my daughters or her son. not long before our marriage ended, she was always encouraging me to go whenever i wanted. i'll let you guess why!

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Aarrgh! The beatings will continue until morale improves!

http://www.cmt.com/videos/misc/493588/a-pirate-looks-at-40-from-cmt-cros...

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from jwallen wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

When I met my wife she was a seventeen year old runaway living in Barrow, Alaska. She had a model 70 in .300 Winchester Magnum and had killed her own caribou. She wore a fur parka with a wolverine fur ruff that she had made herself. Thirty five years later she still scares me a little. Henpeck away dear, you are probably right. I am the luckiest man in the world!

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from Happy Myles wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

I have to chuckle. While sitting here reading of wives, parrots, and piracy, my wife's parrot is squawking over my shoulder . She is back east for a month so I am bird sitting while she is along the Bounding Main. Naw, I am not hen pecked.

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from dukkillr wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Mark-1 - I have never had that happen to me! Last fall, I called my girlfriend after I shot the first deer of the season and she said "You killed Bambi!" So I naturally tried Bill Heavey's response and said "No, this isn't Bambi! This deer was bullying Bambi and stealing his lunch money at school..." but she didn't buy it. Geez. What does a fellow have to do to catch a break around here?

Bella - Good point about the letters of marque, I had never thought of it that way before.

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from Carney wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Been married once. We celebrate 23 years this summer. I believe that maleness and femaleness were designed to be complementary, not antagonistic -- but self centeredness has a way of blurring the purpose for the differences...

If you can spare 10 minutes, you will all probably enjoy this video from Mark Gungor: A Tale of Two Brains.
http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=GuMZ73mT5zM&feature=fvw

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from Jim in Mo wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Hey yea, Happy Easter to all Christians, and to those who think it un-pc, tough.

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from silsbyj wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

A preacher from a small town in Louisianna told me one time....."You can tell a good woman.......but you cant tell her much"!

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from Sarge01 wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

I would just like everyone to know that I wear the pants in my family- I wear which ever pair she tells me to put on.

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from jakenbake wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

If only we all had the money to follow good Stede's example...

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from fisherman wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

hunting and fishing are safer

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from seadog wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

SD Whitetail Hntr, congrats on your future nuptuals. I hope she's as good as Mrs. Seadog--20 years and I still love her as much as I did on the wedding day. She likes to remind me that the gun safe is already past full, but she doesn't make a big fuss if I buy one anyway. Take Bernie's advice & train her while she's young. Some women tend to try to change you--hold your ground. You have to compromise a little, but if you compromise too much you'll be the new patron saint of henpecked husbands.

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from 007 wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

SD Whitetail Hunter, wives are like a good dog, get one when she's young, train her right, and she'll make you a lifetime companion. Just don't make the same mistake I made and tell your lady that. Mine was not amused. It is what you make of it tho. If mine will tolerate me two more months it will be 32 great years.

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from Happy Myles wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Ishawooa.
Over a two month period my wife sprained an ankle attempting a double axel jump on ice skates, then broke her back when her horse stopped out in the finals of an open Grand Prix jumper class. She was in her early 50's at the time. Since then she has hung up her skates and saddle.
that was 15 years or so ago

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from PbHead wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

I forgot to wish everyone a Happy Easter, so Happy Easter everybody!

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from randwarner wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Best Blog Post. Ever. Arghhh

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from JOHN ANDERSON wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

"Free and Unnagged!Now thats the life for me!!Smooth sailing,For Im alone at sea where no one can bother me!!"LMAO"

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from crm3006 wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Here is the link if anyone is interested.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/apr/02/pirates-pick-wrong-targe...?

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from ingebrigtsen wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

And to all you wildcats out over the sea a link to a free book all u henpecked husbands and boyfriends and even singles should read, and what ho its free ;)
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4924914/Frank_B._Kermit__Everything_Out_...

And since were setting up for a lazy night in bed we introduce some sweet seduction music that will work on anything female; and if not your not doing it right :D:P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T20SuBHqpQ

To all a good night and a hope of peace a night for all worlds people from radio norway :)

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from Jim in Mo wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

I think the guy led a much happier if not shorter life doing as he did. There has been twice in my life as regulars here know, that I should have done the same thing Bonnet did..
Ish, Happy; dang guys I love horses but they are so powerful. When I ride them the most I can do is keep them on the trail, the hell with jumping, etc. Of course maybe that's a woman's way of living out a fantasy as us guys do. Hope for the best for your ladies, they are special aren't they? Why the hell I don't know but I keep going back.

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from ingebrigtsen wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago
from Zermoid wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Well at least I'm not henpecked, the wife told me so just yesterday..............

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from Ed J wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

WAM Isn't that suposed to be "The flogings".
Enjoyed the flash back.

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from elmer f. wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

the only real problem with being married for a long time is there just isnt much to get excited about anymore. it is funny that most men pick up a fishing pole or gun and go play in the woods, while women sit at home and gab on the phone all day. we truely are 2 different species. that realisticly get together to procreate. sometimes, i wonder if marrige sholdnt be a 20 year hitch, instead of a lifetime sentance.

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from Del in KS wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

It's been 36+ years since me and my gal met and married. It hasn't all been smooth sailin' but she's a keeper. Before you get married ask yourself do I trust this woman with my bank account and all my worldly goods? Is there any doubt in your mind that she will do the right thing in your absence? Have you ever caught her in even a little lie? If so you might want to rethink that marriage thing. Once you're hitched you can pay dearly for a bad decision. Remember she gets half of everything and you get the bill in the event of a divorce.

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from Del in KS wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Oh and Bella I usually don't agree with you but I too gave you +'s. It's that freedom of speech thing.

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from Zermoid wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Bella,

No Flamin' here, spout off whenever ya see fit!
As has been said before, I may not agree with all you say, but I'll defend your right to say it.

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from Ed J wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Happy Myles is not henpecked he is parrot pecked. heh heh heh.

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from Jere Smith wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Passover just ended, Happy Easter to those who observe it.

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from Jere Smith wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

And if it's not pc tuff.

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from Carney wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

NC30-06:
I +1'd you to get you closer to the next star!

Kenthebusdriver:
That's the kind of wife a guy needs!

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from 007 wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

To those of you still blessed to have your mothers, remember, they can be just as threatening as the wife can be. I was sitting in front of the TV at mom's one day, watching an NBA and an NCAA basketball game at the same time, remote in one hand, push-pull turkey call in the other, keeping up with both games and practicing yelps and I thought doing both rather well. Suddenly, just like in the movies, a shadow fell across me and I found Mom's finger pointing at the turkey call. Her immortal words were "either that can go, or you can go, either way is fine with me".

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from VAHunter540 wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

I had some similar troubles, so I took her with me a few times, now I just bought her a new Bear Apprentice Bow (They are awesome) and she looks damn good in her Waders on a trout stream. I still get to go do what I like and now I have a great companion to go with me. And when its time to slip off to the woods or river with the fellas shes all for it because she knows I'll take her later.

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from seadog wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

I read kenthebusdriver's comment & just for laughs, I asked my wife what she'd do if I left her--she said I couldn't leave her 'cause she'd come with me. Funny thing is that I feel the same way about her. I guess we have it pretty good.

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from bluegraytx wrote 2 years 6 weeks ago

@WA Mtnhunter

Working out real well. Buried a couple, lost track of a couple more, and still hanging with No. 5 (a much younger model) however, the birth of 5 kids in 8 years has caused me to reconsider trade-ins. The cunundrum is: would alimony for an ex-wife and child support for 5 kids be so onerous that I'd have to hock my guns and fishing gear to stay out of jail?

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from Jere Smith wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Resist at all costs once the sink the spurs they never take them off. ;)

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from Ralph the Rifleman wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Now Phil,
This is an interesting story, as pirate stories go...we recently celebrated our 27th year together.
Personally, I'll remain married VS getting the hangeman's noose.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Bella

While I don't always agree with your politics, I applaud your audacity in throwing them out her knowing full well you are going to get flame sprayed!

I also enjoy your historical perspectives and related posts. Keep on keeping on!

best regards

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from buckhunter wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Thank you WA Mtnhunter. That's just what I needed to get ingebrigstens song out of my head. (nothing personal inge). I've been to more Buffet concerts than I can count and still can't get enough.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Ed J

In strict nautical jargon, I believe you are correct with floggings!

I bet there are more than a few Parrotheads on here!

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from kudukid wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

My wife told me early on that if was considering disagreeing with her I would be wise to take a hike.

Long happiness in said marriage has been due in large part to living a mostly outdoor life.

Long live hunting and fishing.

P.S. If you have the hutzpah, try going on an elk hunt in Colorado on your anniversary.

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from nc30-06 wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Your last post Bella, had a -1. I cancelled it. I disagree with a lot you say, but as the saying goes, I will defend your right to say it.

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from Mark-1 wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

I consider Girlfriends/SO's/Wives...scorekeepers. I noticed my life was less complicated without these score- keepers.

BTW have you ever noticed how affectionate women are when you bring home something big, hairy, and bloody to eat? Must be something ancient hard-wired into the DNA.

Bella, If you suddenly become free, can we date? I will admit I'm on the wrong side of 60, but trim with all parts working....more or less.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Just be sure to get the last word in..... as in "YES, DEAR"!

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from Happy Myles wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Groucho Marx said " a wise husband keeps his mouth shut and his check book open "

Will Rogers did not believe in the equality of women, rather he believed in the superiority of women. However he did hedge his bet by predicting with civilizations progress " the time ain't far off when a woman won't know any more than a man. "

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from Happy Myles wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Whoops, my last comments were supposed to be a segue into wishing all a thankful Easter. Rumor has it that due to my advanced senility, I get to track down Easter eggs left by a wiley rogue lagomorph, of course with the aid of my three grandchildren. Nice to make the traveling squad.

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from Jere Smith wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubertus

Patron Saint of Hunter's above.

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from Del in KS wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Happy there's a question for you in the answer section.

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from focusfront wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Dukkiller: find another girl.

I love my wife of many years and even when I know she is manipulating me, I almost always do what she wants anyway. Having said that, women are dangerous. How dangerous?

Consider Roy Sullivan, aka "Dooms", the park ranger who is in the Guinness Book of World Records for being struck by lightning SEVEN times. He survived all those strikes.

But he'd dead now. He committed suicide over a woman.

Shoulda become a pirate instead. Arrrrr.

W

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from BowtechWVU wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Cool post about a interesting article

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from KJ wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

You know why husbands die before their wives?

They want to.

Bonnet proves the point.

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from Shaky wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Caeney; I was reading to the end of comments to write just what you said, but since you already said it, I don't have to. Happily married 37 years and counting. We neither nag nor become combative with each other. "And they twain shall become one flesh". On the other hand, had I been Stede, rather than become a pirate and intentionally murder innocent people, I'd probably just have shot her and hidden the evidence somewhere on my vast sugarcane plantation. Oh, and I wouldn't let the parrot witness the act.

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from Carney wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Several points:
Shaky: Congratulations on 37 years of marital bliss. Thankfully, neither you nor I are Stede, so we don't have to worry about the parrot...

Moishe: We should have expected from your name that you celebrate Passover -- I celebrate it too. AND also First Fruits!

Finally, I notice that my name now has 5 stars beside it when I comment. I am more fulfilled than I can possibly say. It suffices that I tell, "I could now die a happy man."

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from nc30-06 wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Thanks Carney. I need all the help I can get.

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from GERG wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Think Im gonna have to get a new tatoo!!

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

bluegraytx

Let us know how that works out for you, OK?

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from bluegraytx wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

I always figured wives were like guns ... you trade them in when you see something better or they wear out.

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from Jere Smith wrote 2 years 6 weeks ago

A vasectomy would have saved you money there tex ;) worked well for me years ago. Only 1 son.

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from bluegraytx wrote 2 years 6 weeks ago

@Moishe

I'm guessing you shoot blanks in the field, too?

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