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May 03, 2010

Bourjaily: Tased Sheep on Meth and a Cool Cheap Flashlight

By Philip Bourjaily

First of all, there’s this: to test the safety of using tasers on meth-heads, Taser International conducted a study in which researchers gave meth to sixteen sheep, then tased them to see if their hearts would fail. All 16 lived to bleat the tale. The story is datelined April 12, not April 1, and it’s on the Internet so it must be true.

Honestly, I have nothing to say about this, although the possibilities for commentary are endless. I’m just going to post the link as a Gun Nut Public Service, leave the responses to you, and move on to a cool cheap flashlight.

I like keeping a flashlight in my car. Problem is, it can be months between uses, and with regular battery-powered flashlights you have to remember to change the batteries, or, if you live up North, bring it in at night during the winter. The light you see pictured here in the dash of my Jeep is the Great-Lite rechargeable flashlight. It charges in your car outlet in 20 minutes. It will then throw a respectably bright LED beam for over an hour and a half before the juice runs out. With regular LED lights like Surefires you would then have to go buy a new, expensive CR123A battery for it. This, you just plug into the car again. And, this costs a tenth the price of a Sure-Fire at a mere $9.99 from great-lite.com.

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from tjfslaughter wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

I wonder if they did similar testing on the expandable baton (ASP). The effectiveness on Rodney King was not the best in terms of proper police usage or publicity.

I like the flash light, the tactical bezel is a nice touch, some people call those forehead stamps.... What type of battery is in it? Does it have memory?

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from tjfslaughter wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

on another note, if the tazer does not work you could always take the flashlight and mesmorize the sheep with it!

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from suburban bushwacker wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

Had a look at their site, which model is the torch Phil?
SBW

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from pbshooter1217 wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

A flash light is always useful, especially if you can recharge it in your car.

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from SD_Whitetail_Hntr wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

I probly would still prefer my trusty Mag Light. Yes it runs on batteries, yes I forget to replace them precisely when I might neet it most, but I lose too many handy items the size of the above flashlight. Plus my Mag Light doubles as a club if a perp tried to carjack me and somehow lived through 13 rounds of .40 S&W. Just my opinion.

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from johntalbott wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

My standard flashlight is a mini mag light with an upgraded bulb. it sits in a sheath on my door handle. I keep a surefire in the center console of my grand cherkoee. (along with a similar gander mtn flashlight). I keep the batteries and extra bulbs in ziplock bags, so the batteries remain fresh. That being said, the flashlight listed here looks awesome and is probably reliable (barring a dead battery).

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from Beekeeper wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

Looks like a great item to have on hand.

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from JOHN ANDERSON wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

If you know of a flashlight that is wife and child proof Ill buy it.

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from Jere Smith wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

Mag-Lite makes a tough one out of Aircraft Aluminum and tests them by driving an automobile of it. ( Be sure it has Batteries in it if you decide to test it your self)

I bought the 6 D Cell model, it can serve as a club if needed ( beleive me I KNOW)!

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

All flashlights that are in my truck are childproof and spouse resistant due only to their location :)

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from ishawooa wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

My Sure Fire (a birthday gift) throws a great beam but does require expensive and often difficult to find batteries. The Mag-Lights hold up for years, have a decent beam, and use ordinary batteries. Nevertheless a lot can be said for a "plug in" light for the price indicated. Maybe a pair of them in your outfit would be the trick. Of course the Great Lite would be almost useless on a horse on a dark night 20 miles on the other side of Nowhere, WY unless you can take along some sort of charger. That's probably available from some source.

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from ingebrigtsen wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

Bought a rather cheap maglite looking LED flashlight of unknown make 2 years ago.. have used it everytime i needed a handy torch.. and have never had to swap the single AA battery in it so far.. might need to soon. like in another 6 months.. and i estimate it has had its light on for more than 30+ hours by now :P watertight and robust enough to survive me bringing it in my motorbike jacket too ;)

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from MLH wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

Were these sheepish meth monsters in a mosh pit getting blasted by heavy metal when they were tasered? I wonder what becomes of meth addicted sheep.

They might not be as indestructible as a Surefire, but a replacement Surefire lamp assembly is twice this price! Makes one consider what really comes with the higher price.

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from buckstopper wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

Did they use the new flashlight to find the sheep before they tazed' em bro? Did they also sell the wool to make sweeters you couldn't resist to buy? Or was this on an episode of BREAKING BAD?

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from seadog wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

The flashlight looks like a good idea if it works.

Tasering methed up sheep?? Hmmmm-mixed feelings. I'm in favor of testing things on animals before they test them on me, or other humans. But ... most of the guys that died when the LEOs tased them while jacked on meth were no great loss to society. I think it's a toss up.

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from crm3006 wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

Range maggots, also known as sheep, and meth heads, both fall into the same category as far as I'm concerned. The only thing a RM is good for is a wool shirt. In a less PC world, meth heads would make great pop-up targets. As to the flashlight, I get along fine with a 3 cell Mag light, a Surefire E-2D, and various Pelican Light models.

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from Dcast wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

If that sheep wasn't the most freaky thing you ever seen you live in a dark and twisted world!!! I'm with crm3006! Meth heads would make perfect pop-up targets!

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from jbird wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

I read the sheep article, and I don't think an anesthetized sheep on meth is quite the same as a REALLLLY awake tweaker on meth. I wonder if theres a bunch of 'twitchy' sheep runnin around now.

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from jbird wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

Oh, and if the flashlight's battery lasts through multiple charges, then it's a steal, and I gotta have one.

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from Ralph the Rifleman wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

PETA will have a field day with that sheep meth test...which I don't understand cause most of the Peta people seem to all be on drugs anyway?
The $10 flashlight sounds like a winner.

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from focusfront wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

I remember the Strasbourg tests, in which hundreds of man sized goats were shot to test handgun lethality. Glad to see that that sheep were finally able to get into the act. Next up; using Great Danes to find out if broccoli gives you gas.

No offense to the testers, but tasing meth heads is most big city cops' favorite outdoor sport. If tasing meth heads killed them, we'd know already. I'd like to know how effective the tasers were at putting the kibosh on those sheep, however. I've seen coke and meth heads soak up the current to jump-start a battleship (after inhaling enough pepper spray to gag a grizzly) and still run around afterwards.

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from RJ Arena wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

Ralph, your comment was the best!!!!!
I love the flashlight now I have to figure out how to drop the hint to my wife for my birthday next week......

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from buckhunter wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

I have an LED Mag-Lite rolling around the floor of my pick-up in case I'm attacked by sheep on meth.

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from vork23 wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

why do we need to test to see if a taser is going to stop a meth heads heart? people who use meth die young any way and if they are high and need to be tased and di well they should just become a statistic then but that is just my personal opinion.
on a diffrent note that flashlight is pretty cool and i will probually invest in it if i can find one in a store.

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from kaanimal wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

Where does the $9.99 price come from? The Great-Lite website has the rechargeable car light listing from $22 to $30.

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from Bella wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

Tasers are for sadists, they are an instrument of torture. I can understand tasing a guy attacking with a knife or club, but Cops in my state tend to use them as playthings, they tased an 80 year old lady IN custody In the police station!
Tasing people already in handcuffs is torture and any "peace officer" who does it should be fired as a menace. Whatever happened to "serve and protect". I trained for years with a Massachusetts State Police Officer in Aikido which covers most situations a taser would be used.
As far as tasing sheep on meth to see if people similarly tased would have heart failure goes, it is not only stupid but it annoys the sheep! I like sheep and raise a few, they are sooo tasty!
Flashlights? while for years I have been a Mag lite girl (with all 4 sizes in inventory, Double dee, double cee, double double a and double triple a) but recently I have been "turned on" to NEBO flashlights. I have a little one (triple triple A) that has Green and white LED's as well as a neat red laser pointer that my dog likes to chase!
Not cheap though, but lesson #43721 is cheap flashlights suck.

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from dale freeman wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

Good point, Johntalbot;
No car battery, no flashlight battery, what then ?

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from Tom-Tom wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

A small Mag-Lite is a traditional Christmas gift to my spouse and daughters, along with a package of batteries to refill the ones from year past. They each have two for their car, one for their purse, and who knows where the rest are, but they all look forward to the new one...and so far, the D cell ML in my truck has not disappeared for a long time.

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from wingshooter54 wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

The reason the U.S. Military went from .38 caliber revolvers back to the S&W .45 during the Phillipine insurrection was the fact that drug-crazed Moros would soak up .38 bullets like a sponge and keep attacking. The .45 would put them off their feet. Now, I'm not saying meth heads should be shot with a .45; that would not be politically correct for the police to do. Then again, maybe they should.

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from MikeD wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

Couldn't find the $9.99 rechargeable anywhere on the website and $21.97 or more is way more than I'd pay for that light.

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from Zermoid wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

Lesson #43721 is cheap flashlights suck???

I thought it was further up the list........

LED Maglites are great, batteries last for months, the bulbs last dang near forever (got REALLY tired of replacing those expensive 2AA Mag bulbs), also got a 2D LED Maglite, over a year ago, still original batteries! And the kid even took it to Boy Scout camp!
Both are almost as bright as a standard Maglite, only drawback is a LED light does not start dimming as the batteries wear down, so you get no advance notice before the light just shuts off!

And yeah, I found out the hard way not to leave a flashlight in the truck in the winter, had a flashlight in my hunting pack which I forgot about and left it in the truck overnight. Went to use it to walk out of the woods after sunset and no amount of cussing and beating would get it to turn on. I tried.
Collected quite a few bruises before getting out by cell phone light. Thank God for lighted screens.

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from elmer f. wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

thanks david, i like knowing about decent products at a resonable price. the fact that is electric blue, which is my favorite color doesnt hurt matters either. as for the dope feind sheep, and the tasing, i will pass. realisticly, if a person is on drugs and the cops have to tase him/her to get them restrained, and they have a medical problem in the meantime due to illegal drugs, which they took of their own free will, that is just tough shi*. chances are, if they were decent people, they wouldnt be in the mess to begin with. the people in this country need to stand up, take responsibility for their own actions, and get tough. if this does not happen soon, this once great country is going to die. and it will be a miserable death.

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from gdcook wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

I want to know where you can buy these flashlights for 9.99.

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from crm3006 wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

Must be a lot of sheep lovers or meth heads reading this.
Or could it be anti Surefire, anti Pelican light People?

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from focusfront wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

Bella:

Today's law enforcement is burdened by a two pronged problem.

1. Back when there were height, weight, and gender requirements for police, cops could do their thinking with their fists (or use Jujutsu, Aikido, etc.). Now there are no height and weight requirements and you are as apt to run into a 5'6" 130 pound female officer as anyone bigger. You cannot ask or train the 6'3", 225 pound officer to do anything you don't expect the 5'6" officer to be able to do as well and vice-versa.

2. This is a dirty age. In these needle happy days, when you grapple with a perp, you may also be grappling with a case of active tuberculosis, infectious Hepatitis A, B, C, D, or HIV. Nobody wants anyone's sweat, snot, or blood on any part of him/herself any more.

Hence the taser.

You aren't really angry with the taser, Bella. If you have taken Aikido, you know you can cause exquisite pain using your hands alone. I like the idea of the taser; I just don't know how effective they are. Do those little hand held, walkie talkie type units work?

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from Bella wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

Yes Focusfront, I can cause exquisite pain using Aikido compliance techniques, but I try not to hurt people. A disadvantage of Aikido is that it takes years to get good and yes you can train with a taser in a day. It is the old longbow versus crossbow argument.
I don't object to LEO's using their tasers to subdue violent individuals armed with hand to hand weapons. I learned how to take a sword out of a mans hand (or a pistol) but I too would rather face a sword with a taser than bare handed.
I object to gratuitous use of tasers on the unarmed and restrained(like that poor old lady who must have weighed all of 90 pounds they tased) Any LEO must know that they are always in daylight and are always under watch. To hold the power a policeman does, his moral quality must be the highest, but we have been approaching a dichotomy,is a policeman a paladin who serves the people in the community or the community as institution?
As far s physical size goes though, it is irrelevant to a skilled Aikidoist, I have seen tiny women throw big men 3 times their size. I have thrown big men myself.It ain't the size of the dog, it is the size of the fight in the dog!

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from focusfront wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

Bella;

The operative word is "skilled." I've never taken Aikido (one of the few) but from what I hear it is not a quick learn. I don't know of any martial art you can learn inside at least a couple of years of hard training (unless you are tough enough that you hardly needed the training in the first place). As to size not mattering to an Aikidoist, not to tell you your business but size is ALWAYS relevant. Big people can be just as skilled as small people, and keep their reach/ strength/ durability edge all the way. That's why there are 17 boxing weight classes, and at least seven wrestling weight classes; even a twenty pound edge is unfair if both competitors are skilled. Most street punks are exactly that, but once in a while you run into somebody who knows what he's doing. Hence the taser. I hate to start giving inanimate objects a personality; that's the tactic liberals use on guns.

By the way, I had a Mauser like your new one. Cool little rifle. Had to eat it in the end, though.

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from boogin wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

Ok so where can we buy this flashlight? Cheapest on site was around 29 bucks. I would rather they try tazing Illegals instead of sheep to see if any harm is done?

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from Mike Plotner wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

ya know i like my 2 d cell maglight my grandpa got me for Cristmas

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from AlaskanExile wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

There is a company out there (Nite-Ize) making LED conversions for all Mag-Lite flashlights (AA, C&D). They also make tailcap switches for the mini-mags. Bright light and they last a long time.

Stop being a cheapskate! Don't trust your life or the lives of people you care about to sub-standard equipment. As for me, I would not be without my Sure-Fire(s). I own 4, and have given several away as gifts. I have had 7 "vacations" to Iraq and Afghanistan, with lots and lots of night pre-flight inspections, and night missions, (more than 500 combat sorties). I have used Sure-Fire flashlights over the last 10 years, in all conditions imaginable, punctuated by Alaska and Wyoming winters, and hunting and fishing in-between. I have put these flashlights to the test, and they have passed every one. I would not be without one. I won't fly without one, not in Air Force planes, not as a private pilot, and I won't go afield without one, period.

I know, the batteries are expensive, but if you search the internet, you can find those for around $1 each. I buy in bulk, and keep plenty on-hand. The very best light Sure-Fire makes is the G2 LED. The price is very resonable (for what you get),it's tough, it has a brilliant white light that runs a long, long time on a set of batteries, and as far as I know, the bulb lasts forever. The incandescent Sure-Fire lights are very bright, but they use expensive bulbs that can be prone to failure if dropped after or during extensive use. I keep spares.

I've never had cold affect the performace of my Sure-Fire, I'm sure that it could, but I just haven't seen it.
If cold kills the batteries in your flashlight, they needed replacing anyway.
Just my two-cents worth.
AKX

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from Mock1 wrote 2 years 2 weeks ago

Come on Dave. Fess up. Where can you get this light for 9.99 :)

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from philbourjaily wrote 2 years 2 weeks ago

According to Great Neck tools, the item is 32806 Mini Rechargeable
Flashlight for $9.99. Found on newark-tools.com

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from timhansford wrote 2 years 2 weeks ago

I don't know if this has already been posted but I tried to go to the site to check it out and it doesn't exist.

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from chrishinson1971 wrote 1 year 36 weeks ago

i think this would be a great light to keep with you in your car or truck i am going to look into getting one because i am always needing a light

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from smallgamehunter wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

where did they get the meth

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from JOHN ANDERSON wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

If you know of a flashlight that is wife and child proof Ill buy it.

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from tjfslaughter wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

I wonder if they did similar testing on the expandable baton (ASP). The effectiveness on Rodney King was not the best in terms of proper police usage or publicity.

I like the flash light, the tactical bezel is a nice touch, some people call those forehead stamps.... What type of battery is in it? Does it have memory?

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from SD_Whitetail_Hntr wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

I probly would still prefer my trusty Mag Light. Yes it runs on batteries, yes I forget to replace them precisely when I might neet it most, but I lose too many handy items the size of the above flashlight. Plus my Mag Light doubles as a club if a perp tried to carjack me and somehow lived through 13 rounds of .40 S&W. Just my opinion.

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from ingebrigtsen wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

Bought a rather cheap maglite looking LED flashlight of unknown make 2 years ago.. have used it everytime i needed a handy torch.. and have never had to swap the single AA battery in it so far.. might need to soon. like in another 6 months.. and i estimate it has had its light on for more than 30+ hours by now :P watertight and robust enough to survive me bringing it in my motorbike jacket too ;)

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from MLH wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

Were these sheepish meth monsters in a mosh pit getting blasted by heavy metal when they were tasered? I wonder what becomes of meth addicted sheep.

They might not be as indestructible as a Surefire, but a replacement Surefire lamp assembly is twice this price! Makes one consider what really comes with the higher price.

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from seadog wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

The flashlight looks like a good idea if it works.

Tasering methed up sheep?? Hmmmm-mixed feelings. I'm in favor of testing things on animals before they test them on me, or other humans. But ... most of the guys that died when the LEOs tased them while jacked on meth were no great loss to society. I think it's a toss up.

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from Ralph the Rifleman wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

PETA will have a field day with that sheep meth test...which I don't understand cause most of the Peta people seem to all be on drugs anyway?
The $10 flashlight sounds like a winner.

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from buckhunter wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

I have an LED Mag-Lite rolling around the floor of my pick-up in case I'm attacked by sheep on meth.

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from vork23 wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

why do we need to test to see if a taser is going to stop a meth heads heart? people who use meth die young any way and if they are high and need to be tased and di well they should just become a statistic then but that is just my personal opinion.
on a diffrent note that flashlight is pretty cool and i will probually invest in it if i can find one in a store.

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from kaanimal wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

Where does the $9.99 price come from? The Great-Lite website has the rechargeable car light listing from $22 to $30.

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from Bella wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

Tasers are for sadists, they are an instrument of torture. I can understand tasing a guy attacking with a knife or club, but Cops in my state tend to use them as playthings, they tased an 80 year old lady IN custody In the police station!
Tasing people already in handcuffs is torture and any "peace officer" who does it should be fired as a menace. Whatever happened to "serve and protect". I trained for years with a Massachusetts State Police Officer in Aikido which covers most situations a taser would be used.
As far as tasing sheep on meth to see if people similarly tased would have heart failure goes, it is not only stupid but it annoys the sheep! I like sheep and raise a few, they are sooo tasty!
Flashlights? while for years I have been a Mag lite girl (with all 4 sizes in inventory, Double dee, double cee, double double a and double triple a) but recently I have been "turned on" to NEBO flashlights. I have a little one (triple triple A) that has Green and white LED's as well as a neat red laser pointer that my dog likes to chase!
Not cheap though, but lesson #43721 is cheap flashlights suck.

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from crm3006 wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

Must be a lot of sheep lovers or meth heads reading this.
Or could it be anti Surefire, anti Pelican light People?

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from boogin wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

Ok so where can we buy this flashlight? Cheapest on site was around 29 bucks. I would rather they try tazing Illegals instead of sheep to see if any harm is done?

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from tjfslaughter wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

on another note, if the tazer does not work you could always take the flashlight and mesmorize the sheep with it!

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from suburban bushwacker wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

Had a look at their site, which model is the torch Phil?
SBW

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from pbshooter1217 wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

A flash light is always useful, especially if you can recharge it in your car.

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from johntalbott wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

My standard flashlight is a mini mag light with an upgraded bulb. it sits in a sheath on my door handle. I keep a surefire in the center console of my grand cherkoee. (along with a similar gander mtn flashlight). I keep the batteries and extra bulbs in ziplock bags, so the batteries remain fresh. That being said, the flashlight listed here looks awesome and is probably reliable (barring a dead battery).

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from Beekeeper wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

Looks like a great item to have on hand.

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from Jere Smith wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

Mag-Lite makes a tough one out of Aircraft Aluminum and tests them by driving an automobile of it. ( Be sure it has Batteries in it if you decide to test it your self)

I bought the 6 D Cell model, it can serve as a club if needed ( beleive me I KNOW)!

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

All flashlights that are in my truck are childproof and spouse resistant due only to their location :)

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from ishawooa wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

My Sure Fire (a birthday gift) throws a great beam but does require expensive and often difficult to find batteries. The Mag-Lights hold up for years, have a decent beam, and use ordinary batteries. Nevertheless a lot can be said for a "plug in" light for the price indicated. Maybe a pair of them in your outfit would be the trick. Of course the Great Lite would be almost useless on a horse on a dark night 20 miles on the other side of Nowhere, WY unless you can take along some sort of charger. That's probably available from some source.

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from buckstopper wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

Did they use the new flashlight to find the sheep before they tazed' em bro? Did they also sell the wool to make sweeters you couldn't resist to buy? Or was this on an episode of BREAKING BAD?

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from Dcast wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

If that sheep wasn't the most freaky thing you ever seen you live in a dark and twisted world!!! I'm with crm3006! Meth heads would make perfect pop-up targets!

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from focusfront wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

I remember the Strasbourg tests, in which hundreds of man sized goats were shot to test handgun lethality. Glad to see that that sheep were finally able to get into the act. Next up; using Great Danes to find out if broccoli gives you gas.

No offense to the testers, but tasing meth heads is most big city cops' favorite outdoor sport. If tasing meth heads killed them, we'd know already. I'd like to know how effective the tasers were at putting the kibosh on those sheep, however. I've seen coke and meth heads soak up the current to jump-start a battleship (after inhaling enough pepper spray to gag a grizzly) and still run around afterwards.

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from RJ Arena wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

Ralph, your comment was the best!!!!!
I love the flashlight now I have to figure out how to drop the hint to my wife for my birthday next week......

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from wingshooter54 wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

The reason the U.S. Military went from .38 caliber revolvers back to the S&W .45 during the Phillipine insurrection was the fact that drug-crazed Moros would soak up .38 bullets like a sponge and keep attacking. The .45 would put them off their feet. Now, I'm not saying meth heads should be shot with a .45; that would not be politically correct for the police to do. Then again, maybe they should.

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from MikeD wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

Couldn't find the $9.99 rechargeable anywhere on the website and $21.97 or more is way more than I'd pay for that light.

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from elmer f. wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

thanks david, i like knowing about decent products at a resonable price. the fact that is electric blue, which is my favorite color doesnt hurt matters either. as for the dope feind sheep, and the tasing, i will pass. realisticly, if a person is on drugs and the cops have to tase him/her to get them restrained, and they have a medical problem in the meantime due to illegal drugs, which they took of their own free will, that is just tough shi*. chances are, if they were decent people, they wouldnt be in the mess to begin with. the people in this country need to stand up, take responsibility for their own actions, and get tough. if this does not happen soon, this once great country is going to die. and it will be a miserable death.

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from gdcook wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

I want to know where you can buy these flashlights for 9.99.

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from focusfront wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

Bella:

Today's law enforcement is burdened by a two pronged problem.

1. Back when there were height, weight, and gender requirements for police, cops could do their thinking with their fists (or use Jujutsu, Aikido, etc.). Now there are no height and weight requirements and you are as apt to run into a 5'6" 130 pound female officer as anyone bigger. You cannot ask or train the 6'3", 225 pound officer to do anything you don't expect the 5'6" officer to be able to do as well and vice-versa.

2. This is a dirty age. In these needle happy days, when you grapple with a perp, you may also be grappling with a case of active tuberculosis, infectious Hepatitis A, B, C, D, or HIV. Nobody wants anyone's sweat, snot, or blood on any part of him/herself any more.

Hence the taser.

You aren't really angry with the taser, Bella. If you have taken Aikido, you know you can cause exquisite pain using your hands alone. I like the idea of the taser; I just don't know how effective they are. Do those little hand held, walkie talkie type units work?

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from focusfront wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

Bella;

The operative word is "skilled." I've never taken Aikido (one of the few) but from what I hear it is not a quick learn. I don't know of any martial art you can learn inside at least a couple of years of hard training (unless you are tough enough that you hardly needed the training in the first place). As to size not mattering to an Aikidoist, not to tell you your business but size is ALWAYS relevant. Big people can be just as skilled as small people, and keep their reach/ strength/ durability edge all the way. That's why there are 17 boxing weight classes, and at least seven wrestling weight classes; even a twenty pound edge is unfair if both competitors are skilled. Most street punks are exactly that, but once in a while you run into somebody who knows what he's doing. Hence the taser. I hate to start giving inanimate objects a personality; that's the tactic liberals use on guns.

By the way, I had a Mauser like your new one. Cool little rifle. Had to eat it in the end, though.

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from jbird wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

I read the sheep article, and I don't think an anesthetized sheep on meth is quite the same as a REALLLLY awake tweaker on meth. I wonder if theres a bunch of 'twitchy' sheep runnin around now.

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from jbird wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

Oh, and if the flashlight's battery lasts through multiple charges, then it's a steal, and I gotta have one.

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from dale freeman wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

Good point, Johntalbot;
No car battery, no flashlight battery, what then ?

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from Tom-Tom wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

A small Mag-Lite is a traditional Christmas gift to my spouse and daughters, along with a package of batteries to refill the ones from year past. They each have two for their car, one for their purse, and who knows where the rest are, but they all look forward to the new one...and so far, the D cell ML in my truck has not disappeared for a long time.

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from Zermoid wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

Lesson #43721 is cheap flashlights suck???

I thought it was further up the list........

LED Maglites are great, batteries last for months, the bulbs last dang near forever (got REALLY tired of replacing those expensive 2AA Mag bulbs), also got a 2D LED Maglite, over a year ago, still original batteries! And the kid even took it to Boy Scout camp!
Both are almost as bright as a standard Maglite, only drawback is a LED light does not start dimming as the batteries wear down, so you get no advance notice before the light just shuts off!

And yeah, I found out the hard way not to leave a flashlight in the truck in the winter, had a flashlight in my hunting pack which I forgot about and left it in the truck overnight. Went to use it to walk out of the woods after sunset and no amount of cussing and beating would get it to turn on. I tried.
Collected quite a few bruises before getting out by cell phone light. Thank God for lighted screens.

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from Mike Plotner wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

ya know i like my 2 d cell maglight my grandpa got me for Cristmas

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from AlaskanExile wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

There is a company out there (Nite-Ize) making LED conversions for all Mag-Lite flashlights (AA, C&D). They also make tailcap switches for the mini-mags. Bright light and they last a long time.

Stop being a cheapskate! Don't trust your life or the lives of people you care about to sub-standard equipment. As for me, I would not be without my Sure-Fire(s). I own 4, and have given several away as gifts. I have had 7 "vacations" to Iraq and Afghanistan, with lots and lots of night pre-flight inspections, and night missions, (more than 500 combat sorties). I have used Sure-Fire flashlights over the last 10 years, in all conditions imaginable, punctuated by Alaska and Wyoming winters, and hunting and fishing in-between. I have put these flashlights to the test, and they have passed every one. I would not be without one. I won't fly without one, not in Air Force planes, not as a private pilot, and I won't go afield without one, period.

I know, the batteries are expensive, but if you search the internet, you can find those for around $1 each. I buy in bulk, and keep plenty on-hand. The very best light Sure-Fire makes is the G2 LED. The price is very resonable (for what you get),it's tough, it has a brilliant white light that runs a long, long time on a set of batteries, and as far as I know, the bulb lasts forever. The incandescent Sure-Fire lights are very bright, but they use expensive bulbs that can be prone to failure if dropped after or during extensive use. I keep spares.

I've never had cold affect the performace of my Sure-Fire, I'm sure that it could, but I just haven't seen it.
If cold kills the batteries in your flashlight, they needed replacing anyway.
Just my two-cents worth.
AKX

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from Mock1 wrote 2 years 2 weeks ago

Come on Dave. Fess up. Where can you get this light for 9.99 :)

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from philbourjaily wrote 2 years 2 weeks ago

According to Great Neck tools, the item is 32806 Mini Rechargeable
Flashlight for $9.99. Found on newark-tools.com

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from timhansford wrote 2 years 2 weeks ago

I don't know if this has already been posted but I tried to go to the site to check it out and it doesn't exist.

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from chrishinson1971 wrote 1 year 36 weeks ago

i think this would be a great light to keep with you in your car or truck i am going to look into getting one because i am always needing a light

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from smallgamehunter wrote 1 year 16 weeks ago

where did they get the meth

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from Bella wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

Yes Focusfront, I can cause exquisite pain using Aikido compliance techniques, but I try not to hurt people. A disadvantage of Aikido is that it takes years to get good and yes you can train with a taser in a day. It is the old longbow versus crossbow argument.
I don't object to LEO's using their tasers to subdue violent individuals armed with hand to hand weapons. I learned how to take a sword out of a mans hand (or a pistol) but I too would rather face a sword with a taser than bare handed.
I object to gratuitous use of tasers on the unarmed and restrained(like that poor old lady who must have weighed all of 90 pounds they tased) Any LEO must know that they are always in daylight and are always under watch. To hold the power a policeman does, his moral quality must be the highest, but we have been approaching a dichotomy,is a policeman a paladin who serves the people in the community or the community as institution?
As far s physical size goes though, it is irrelevant to a skilled Aikidoist, I have seen tiny women throw big men 3 times their size. I have thrown big men myself.It ain't the size of the dog, it is the size of the fight in the dog!

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from crm3006 wrote 2 years 3 weeks ago

Range maggots, also known as sheep, and meth heads, both fall into the same category as far as I'm concerned. The only thing a RM is good for is a wool shirt. In a less PC world, meth heads would make great pop-up targets. As to the flashlight, I get along fine with a 3 cell Mag light, a Surefire E-2D, and various Pelican Light models.

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