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September 15, 2011

2011 Gun Nuts Target Photo Contest Winner Announced!

By Editors

Our editors have scoured the hudreds of submissions to this year's Gun Nuts Target Photo Contest and a winner has been chosen:

This recreation of the flag raising on Iwo Jima earns user nathansdad a Smith & Wesson M&P15-22 .22LR Realtree APG HD Camo rifle. Congrats nathansdad! We'll be contacting you shortly.

UPDATE (Sept. 16, 9:45 AM EST): Here is nathansdad's caption for the photo:
"We picked some American symbols and their weapons an shot the target accordingly. The cowboy with his .44 revolver, the law enforcement agent with his Smith and Wesson, the soldier and his AR 15, and the Native American with his Henry lever action. Each took one shot(we wanted to make sure there was enough of the target left to put on the pole) an we raised the flag as American as we could."

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from vasportsman wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

Awesome job, congrats!

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from gxx9sdb wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

Congratulations to the winners, great photo... but what happened to the contest?!? I thought the rules said that people could vote on the pictures and pick the top 5 or something.

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from CL3 wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

oh, that is excellent! well done!

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from buckstopper wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

great pic....but is that supposed to be the Village People?!

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

Y-M-C-A

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from tgarrett wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

Boy I didn't know that the contest was to pick "the most patriotic" picture, considering the exact same picture was picked to win 2 years in a row...both with the gun nut target on a flag pole under the American flag...the only difference is the village people are in this year's. I thought it was supposed to be "the most creative" picture. I guess at least I know what to for next year. Find a flag pole with the American flag and put the new gun nut target below it, and I'll win the gun.

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from Jim in Mo wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

There is no by-line under who posted and is speaking for the contest.

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from Joe Wright wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

I find this picture in very bad tast. The people in the original, suffered greatly during WW II. Field & Stream, must be hard up for a story !!

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from Tim Platt wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

Yeah I am not impressed myself. You can't even see the target...

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from Bernie wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

Very bad taste--I am surprised at you people. Those Marines on Iwo Jima went through hell, something like 6,000 of them killed, including all but one or two of the ones in Joe Rosenthal's photo. I'd expect something like this from The Rolling Stone but not FIELD & STREAM!

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from beaver93 wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

Congrats to the winner and to everyone who participated!!! There were many clever photos. I can agree that this years winner is controversial, but it is the winner. the S&W M&P 22 LR is a fun gun and you will enjoy it.
I believe that a one photo per person rule should be enforced to filter the "clutter" of one person submitting dozens of pictures, it almost seems like desperation rather than good sportsmanship. Let everyone have an equal chance, that is my opinion.
Again, it was great to see everyones photos. Be safe and HAPPY SHOOTING!!!

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from buckhunter wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

Can you name the men represented in the photo? I can only name one. Ira Hayes. Ira was an American Indian and I assume represented by the Indian in the photo. The identity of one other remained a mystery for sometime and debated to this day. The name is on the tip of my tongue.

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from Big Country wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

Congrats on the new rifle.
BTW from Wikipedia,
"Raising the Flag on Iwo Jima" is a historic photograph taken on 23 February 1945 by Joe Rosenthal. It depicts five Marines and a U.S. Navy corpsman raising the flag of the United States atop Mount Suribachi.[7] The photograph was extremely popular, being reprinted in thousands of publications. Later, it became the only photograph to win the Pulitzer Prize for Photography in the same year as its publication, and ultimately came to be regarded as one of the most significant and recognizable images of the war, and possibly the most reproduced photograph of all time.[7] Of the six men depicted in the picture, three (Franklin Sousley, Harlon Block, and Michael Strank) did not survive the battle; the three survivors (John Bradley, Rene Gagnon, and Ira Hayes) became celebrities upon the publication of the photo. For a while, it was believed that the man now known to be Block was actually Hank Hansen, but Hayes set the record straight. The picture was later used by Felix de Weldon to sculpt the Marine Corps War Memorial, located adjacent to Arlington National Cemetery.[7]"

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from Moose1980 wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

I believe that photo will stir the bee's nest so to speak. My father, a Marine Corp veteran was none to happy to see that moment trivialized for a magazine contest. I believe it's a sign of our times where good taste is often pushed aside for shock value. They may very well have been trying to honor the moment by recreating it, however the indian head dress pretty much rules that out. Ok, off my sopabox now and back to work I guess.

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from 007 wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

I didn't enter so this isn't sour grapes on my part but this picture does seem to be in rather bad taste and has nothing to do with shooting the target as earlier indicated. Just my opinion.

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from Dewline wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

This is a sad comment on one of the most famous images from WWII. F&S, you should be ashamed for allowing this, and the submitters should be ashamed as well.

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from buckhead wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

love it! patriotic and speaks to our guns heritage.

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from VAHunter540 wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

I agree with 007 on this, has that target even been shot?
And along with many of the others I completely disagree with the editors choice. The winners can keep the gun, but I think the picture should be taken down.

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from firedog11 wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

I would rather people take the photo in a positive way rather than negative. I believe in my heart that those in the photo meant this as a sort of tribute than anything else. I do agree it is time to put some limits on what is expected one being that the target must be clearly visible and understandable.

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from deanlikes2fish wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

As a 16 year Marine Coprs Veteran, I dislike the picture but I understand what the photo was trying to communicate. Like I have heard many times, good initative, bad judgement.

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from deanlikes2fish wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

As a 16 year Marine Coprs Veteran, I dislike the picture but I understand what the photo was trying to communicate. Like I have heard many times, good initative, bad judgement.

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from buckhunter wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

The problem is Big Country gets +2 for looking it up on Google and I get nothing for reading the book. What is this country going to? No offense Big Country. Just making a point.

Google is going to be the death of this country.

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from Tom-Tom wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

I believe that the "editors" had their beaks a little too deep in the elderberries on this one. Why not allow Phil and David to select their top five and then let us, the fans, vote for our pick. Does anyone else feel the same way?

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from Jeff Bowers wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

Jeez, people! I'm a Marine and a veteran, and I'm not all that fussed about it.

Even the Rosenthal picture was staged. The original flag was smaller, and thrown up for gunners to see not to shell the place.

Rosenthal set up a nice, posed picture that is the one that became the better known one. This makes it the idea of the flag-raising that is memorialized.

Really. Did anybody bother going to:
http://www.iwojima.com/raising/raisingb.htm

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from combat.medic wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

As the editors posted, the winning picture shown came with a caption from the sender. They were trying to embrace and memorialize many aspects of American history, and I, for one, believe they accomplished it. Yes, in WWII, many fine marines, sailors, soldiers, and airmen lost their lives. Same as every other war. That part is not up for debate. The authors of this picture were creating a tribute to our heritage and history as Americans. Also, for those who complained about not being able to see the holes in the target, that was not the point of emphasis. The emphasis for the contest was creativity, and I do believe those involved in this photo were pretty creative in making a tribute to American history.

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from Arlo269 wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

I guess agree to disagree!!

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from steelbird wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

When I saw this image, I had a gut feeling that this would be the winner. Not so much based on creativity or originality, but because for all of the sentiment behind it ( and it is a nice tribute, I won't dispute that ), the Rosenthal image is copied so many times in so many ways that it has become a cliche to do so. And in my experience, the most obvious cliche is the one that wins the contest. I am not faulting the photographer here, as this is a good image. But it (and this is my opinion, of course ) isn't very original, and as tgarrett pointed out, makes me wonder if this contest was oriented toward the most patriotic image that could be submitted.

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from duckcreekdick wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

The famous still photo of the second flag raising was not staged, Jeff4066, as the movie footage of the same event will show. The posed group photo taken afterwards was staged, as your recommended website clearly shows.
Yes, the winning picture shows creative tackiness.

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from Carney wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

Click on the link provided in the article to get the paragraph that came with the submission.

While there's no pleasing everybody (myself included), I find it lopsided to consider the photo either tacky or downright inappropriate. The title is: "America Loves Guns". The obvious sentiment of the photo is that our 2nd Amendment has been fought for and died for to be protected and the benefit touches all segments of society. The magazine page flies beneath our American flag showing that support of gun ownership and usage is a fundamental, patriotic value in our society.

Congrats to the winners.

PS = Everybody give buckhunter a +1. He read the book and he's feeling left out...

PSS = and stop giving -1's to buckhead just because he figured out the intent of the submission and actually likes it.

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from nathansdad wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

Hi everyone,
I'm the guy that posted the picture. I guess i'm here to apologize to all the guys who apparently find the picture so offensive. Rest assure the intention of the photo was anything but levity or disrespect. I'm a student of military history, spending most of my time studying battles of WWII. I have nothing but the utmost respect and love for the men who fought suffered and died for this country, and for those who continue to do so. The picture was merely meant to represent symbols and icons of american heritage and freedom, all of whom (the cowboy, the law enforcement officer, the soldier, and the indian) have the right to carry their guns because of the men who fought and died on so many battle fields in so many places. The names of the six young men in the original Rosenthal Photo are: (visible from right to left) Harlon Block, James Bradley, Franklin Sousley, and Ira Hayes. The two not visible are Mike Strank and Rene Gagnon. The famouse Rosenthal photo was actually not a posed picture. Nor was it the original raising of the flag. After the first flag had been raised, a CO on the ground gave Rene a new flag to put up in its place because he wanted to keep the origianl flag. He also wanted to put a bigger flag up so it would be more visible to everyone. The flag in the famous photo is that replacement flag being put up by the six marines. Harlon, Franklin, and Mike did not leave the island alive. The thought that people think i meant this photo with levity makes me feel sick to my stomach. I apologize again for anyone who is offended. I especially apologize to any American soldiers, active or retired, alive or dead, who find this in bad taste. I am sorry. For those of you who can see it in the light in which it was meant, thanks for your comments. Thanks all.

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from Carney wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

Good job Nathan'sDad. You're obviously a stand up guy. Enjoy your gun.

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from Jeff Bowers wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

Cop, Soldier, Cowboy, and Indian?

My Gosh! You ARE the Village People!

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from Jeff Bowers wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

I didn't mean staged, as in with a director and script girls.

I meant that in the original raising, people were hunkered down because they were still getting sporadic fire. The photographer seems pretty low to the ground. I believe his camera was damaged during this.

In the movie you reference, when the second flag is raised, people are just standing around watching.

I have been inspired by the Rosenthal picture pretty much my whole life. But the second raising, for the very fact that it is the second raising, is 'A' symbol of freedom and sacrifice, not 'The' symbol.

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from VAHunter540 wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

Nathansdad, Please accept my apologies. I definitely jumped the gun in my first post, I was in a hurry and just wrote what my gut thoughts where. After going back and reading about the historical significance of each individual in the photo and why they (and their guns) where chosen, I realized I was completely out of line with asking for this photo to be taken down. You explained yourself perfectly in your original submission summary and if I had taken the time to read that first I would not have had the ignorant reaction that I did. Maybe the editors could add that to this blog, might help win a few more of us overThis photo does a great job of representing us! Enjoy your gun!

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from Eric Greene wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

Buckhunter I read Flags of Our Fathers, the story of the Men who raised the flag. Great book.

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from macbeth101 wrote 2 years 30 weeks ago

Who voted for this pic? Can anyone realy say that they clicked on the vote box for this pic? I demand a recount call me bitter. Had anyone noticed the contest photos were on two different F&S web pages. One site had all photos with no way to vote... the other had 1/2 the photos and let you vote and this pic was not on that page. Not fair to the other half, myself included. I contacted F&S and they did nothing about it even if it was bad software I received no response on this matter. The pic looks alot like the photo that won last years 2010 Gun Nut Target Photo Contest. Why is that? If you photo crop it where the flag pole meets the hands and add color you'll see that they are almost the same photo. If I won this 2011 contest I would not accept the prize or any recognition.

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from JDubYa wrote 2 years 30 weeks ago

I'm not going to say much as for whether they were wrong or right in winning the contest, I myself entered quite a few pictures hoping to win a "first gun" for my First son. But I will express how ridiculous it is that people are calling them "Village People" imitators.
Looks to me like they were trying to portray those who were originally in the the "Iwo Jima" Raising of the flag picture. The Indian being as previously stated Ira Hayes.
Show a little respect.

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from JDubYa wrote 2 years 30 weeks ago

And just to add to my comment, my family history has a very long line of Marines.
My grandfather being one of them, who was deployed for quite some time during WW2.
So yes I take very offensively when someone disrespects a soldier, especially a Marine.

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from steelbird wrote 2 years 30 weeks ago

Hey Macbeth,

AFAIK (or remember the posted rules ), the rifle winner was chosen by F&S staff, not popular vote. I don't have any problems with the image itself, I can see the symbolism involved in it. But I think that in the future, F&S should be more attentive to posting ALL the images, as they are submitted - I think some of this was done on autopilot, without a person looking them over on a daily basis. The criteria for judging listed should also be changed to something along the lines of "whatever we think looks good."
I think it's a decent image, but again, because the Rosenthal image is repeatedly copied in tribute, parody, or symbolism in visual presentation, it becomes a cliche to do so. A tribute to the original isn't a bad thing, and I understand what nathansdad was doing, and he's created a good tribute photo. But creating a tribute image, which duplicates the original, and borrowing an element from the winner of last year's contest, I believe, does not match F&S's own posted judging criteria of creativity and originality listed in the rules. I can't blame F&S; it's their contest, and their opinion of what they like the most. And creativity and originality is very subjective. But it seems to me that they didn't follow their own criteria for judging the winner, and that is what is very disappointing.

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from macbeth101 wrote 2 years 30 weeks ago

Well written steelbird.
I am disappointed by F&S myself.

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from Jim in Mo wrote 2 years 30 weeks ago

Dave nor Phil did this post, it was the editors. I get it, but they should put a by-line so we all get it.

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from tractorman wrote 2 years 30 weeks ago

I would like to add my voice to those few that have stepped up to the plate for nathansdad. I think if i were him this whole winning thing might be completely ruined by now. Maybe not, who knows... I would like to point out that he has explained himself twice (which i don't think he should have to do) and apologized profusely to all those taking offense (which i think is down-right decent of him). It seems to me he is genuinely concerned that people feel he is making light of something that HE, himself, apparently feels strongly about. My dad once told me that only a great fool takes offense when offense isn't meant, and I think we can all agree that his intention was to honor and thank those who gave themselves to the cause. My grandfather fought in the pacific and far from offended, i feel he has been honored. Thankyou nathansdad. Nathan, i say you got a good dad. Enjoy your gun!
p.s. those of you who can agree, give this post a plus one or put your own two cents in. Lets let the man feel good about winning. He deserves it.

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from grossmandesign wrote 2 years 30 weeks ago

The official rules explicitly state NO TEAM ENTRIES. Just saying.

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from Shaw07 wrote 2 years 30 weeks ago

Awesome picture!

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from Jere Smith wrote 2 years 30 weeks ago

I was pretty po'd UNTIL I read nathansdad's explanation, not I am just a little disappointed in the Method of the picture,. I don't approve of "copying" or reproducing photos that other Professional Photographer's have taken combat photographers especially (since I was one in Viet Nam). But it was not done with malice, so let them enjoy their prize.

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from dtownley wrote 2 years 29 weeks ago

Congratulations NATHANSDAD ! I see nothing iconoclastic in this photo. Its history relived, we acknowledge the sacrifice. When I see our flag representing this country, it never fails to cause an emotional release of both joy & sorrow. Painful memories of hard fought for territories are part of this countries history, hence reenactments. No one in this country has to travel far to thank a veteran.

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from Jeff Bowers wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

Jeez, people! I'm a Marine and a veteran, and I'm not all that fussed about it.

Even the Rosenthal picture was staged. The original flag was smaller, and thrown up for gunners to see not to shell the place.

Rosenthal set up a nice, posed picture that is the one that became the better known one. This makes it the idea of the flag-raising that is memorialized.

Really. Did anybody bother going to:
http://www.iwojima.com/raising/raisingb.htm

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from nathansdad wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

Hi everyone,
I'm the guy that posted the picture. I guess i'm here to apologize to all the guys who apparently find the picture so offensive. Rest assure the intention of the photo was anything but levity or disrespect. I'm a student of military history, spending most of my time studying battles of WWII. I have nothing but the utmost respect and love for the men who fought suffered and died for this country, and for those who continue to do so. The picture was merely meant to represent symbols and icons of american heritage and freedom, all of whom (the cowboy, the law enforcement officer, the soldier, and the indian) have the right to carry their guns because of the men who fought and died on so many battle fields in so many places. The names of the six young men in the original Rosenthal Photo are: (visible from right to left) Harlon Block, James Bradley, Franklin Sousley, and Ira Hayes. The two not visible are Mike Strank and Rene Gagnon. The famouse Rosenthal photo was actually not a posed picture. Nor was it the original raising of the flag. After the first flag had been raised, a CO on the ground gave Rene a new flag to put up in its place because he wanted to keep the origianl flag. He also wanted to put a bigger flag up so it would be more visible to everyone. The flag in the famous photo is that replacement flag being put up by the six marines. Harlon, Franklin, and Mike did not leave the island alive. The thought that people think i meant this photo with levity makes me feel sick to my stomach. I apologize again for anyone who is offended. I especially apologize to any American soldiers, active or retired, alive or dead, who find this in bad taste. I am sorry. For those of you who can see it in the light in which it was meant, thanks for your comments. Thanks all.

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from Joe Wright wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

I find this picture in very bad tast. The people in the original, suffered greatly during WW II. Field & Stream, must be hard up for a story !!

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from Tim Platt wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

Yeah I am not impressed myself. You can't even see the target...

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from Bernie wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

Very bad taste--I am surprised at you people. Those Marines on Iwo Jima went through hell, something like 6,000 of them killed, including all but one or two of the ones in Joe Rosenthal's photo. I'd expect something like this from The Rolling Stone but not FIELD & STREAM!

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from 007 wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

I didn't enter so this isn't sour grapes on my part but this picture does seem to be in rather bad taste and has nothing to do with shooting the target as earlier indicated. Just my opinion.

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from Carney wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

Click on the link provided in the article to get the paragraph that came with the submission.

While there's no pleasing everybody (myself included), I find it lopsided to consider the photo either tacky or downright inappropriate. The title is: "America Loves Guns". The obvious sentiment of the photo is that our 2nd Amendment has been fought for and died for to be protected and the benefit touches all segments of society. The magazine page flies beneath our American flag showing that support of gun ownership and usage is a fundamental, patriotic value in our society.

Congrats to the winners.

PS = Everybody give buckhunter a +1. He read the book and he's feeling left out...

PSS = and stop giving -1's to buckhead just because he figured out the intent of the submission and actually likes it.

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from deanlikes2fish wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

As a 16 year Marine Coprs Veteran, I dislike the picture but I understand what the photo was trying to communicate. Like I have heard many times, good initative, bad judgement.

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from Tom-Tom wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

I believe that the "editors" had their beaks a little too deep in the elderberries on this one. Why not allow Phil and David to select their top five and then let us, the fans, vote for our pick. Does anyone else feel the same way?

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from combat.medic wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

As the editors posted, the winning picture shown came with a caption from the sender. They were trying to embrace and memorialize many aspects of American history, and I, for one, believe they accomplished it. Yes, in WWII, many fine marines, sailors, soldiers, and airmen lost their lives. Same as every other war. That part is not up for debate. The authors of this picture were creating a tribute to our heritage and history as Americans. Also, for those who complained about not being able to see the holes in the target, that was not the point of emphasis. The emphasis for the contest was creativity, and I do believe those involved in this photo were pretty creative in making a tribute to American history.

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from Carney wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

Good job Nathan'sDad. You're obviously a stand up guy. Enjoy your gun.

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from VAHunter540 wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

Nathansdad, Please accept my apologies. I definitely jumped the gun in my first post, I was in a hurry and just wrote what my gut thoughts where. After going back and reading about the historical significance of each individual in the photo and why they (and their guns) where chosen, I realized I was completely out of line with asking for this photo to be taken down. You explained yourself perfectly in your original submission summary and if I had taken the time to read that first I would not have had the ignorant reaction that I did. Maybe the editors could add that to this blog, might help win a few more of us overThis photo does a great job of representing us! Enjoy your gun!

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from grossmandesign wrote 2 years 30 weeks ago

The official rules explicitly state NO TEAM ENTRIES. Just saying.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

Y-M-C-A

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from buckhunter wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

Can you name the men represented in the photo? I can only name one. Ira Hayes. Ira was an American Indian and I assume represented by the Indian in the photo. The identity of one other remained a mystery for sometime and debated to this day. The name is on the tip of my tongue.

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from Big Country wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

Congrats on the new rifle.
BTW from Wikipedia,
"Raising the Flag on Iwo Jima" is a historic photograph taken on 23 February 1945 by Joe Rosenthal. It depicts five Marines and a U.S. Navy corpsman raising the flag of the United States atop Mount Suribachi.[7] The photograph was extremely popular, being reprinted in thousands of publications. Later, it became the only photograph to win the Pulitzer Prize for Photography in the same year as its publication, and ultimately came to be regarded as one of the most significant and recognizable images of the war, and possibly the most reproduced photograph of all time.[7] Of the six men depicted in the picture, three (Franklin Sousley, Harlon Block, and Michael Strank) did not survive the battle; the three survivors (John Bradley, Rene Gagnon, and Ira Hayes) became celebrities upon the publication of the photo. For a while, it was believed that the man now known to be Block was actually Hank Hansen, but Hayes set the record straight. The picture was later used by Felix de Weldon to sculpt the Marine Corps War Memorial, located adjacent to Arlington National Cemetery.[7]"

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from Moose1980 wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

I believe that photo will stir the bee's nest so to speak. My father, a Marine Corp veteran was none to happy to see that moment trivialized for a magazine contest. I believe it's a sign of our times where good taste is often pushed aside for shock value. They may very well have been trying to honor the moment by recreating it, however the indian head dress pretty much rules that out. Ok, off my sopabox now and back to work I guess.

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from VAHunter540 wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

I agree with 007 on this, has that target even been shot?
And along with many of the others I completely disagree with the editors choice. The winners can keep the gun, but I think the picture should be taken down.

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from steelbird wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

When I saw this image, I had a gut feeling that this would be the winner. Not so much based on creativity or originality, but because for all of the sentiment behind it ( and it is a nice tribute, I won't dispute that ), the Rosenthal image is copied so many times in so many ways that it has become a cliche to do so. And in my experience, the most obvious cliche is the one that wins the contest. I am not faulting the photographer here, as this is a good image. But it (and this is my opinion, of course ) isn't very original, and as tgarrett pointed out, makes me wonder if this contest was oriented toward the most patriotic image that could be submitted.

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from steelbird wrote 2 years 30 weeks ago

Hey Macbeth,

AFAIK (or remember the posted rules ), the rifle winner was chosen by F&S staff, not popular vote. I don't have any problems with the image itself, I can see the symbolism involved in it. But I think that in the future, F&S should be more attentive to posting ALL the images, as they are submitted - I think some of this was done on autopilot, without a person looking them over on a daily basis. The criteria for judging listed should also be changed to something along the lines of "whatever we think looks good."
I think it's a decent image, but again, because the Rosenthal image is repeatedly copied in tribute, parody, or symbolism in visual presentation, it becomes a cliche to do so. A tribute to the original isn't a bad thing, and I understand what nathansdad was doing, and he's created a good tribute photo. But creating a tribute image, which duplicates the original, and borrowing an element from the winner of last year's contest, I believe, does not match F&S's own posted judging criteria of creativity and originality listed in the rules. I can't blame F&S; it's their contest, and their opinion of what they like the most. And creativity and originality is very subjective. But it seems to me that they didn't follow their own criteria for judging the winner, and that is what is very disappointing.

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from buckstopper wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

great pic....but is that supposed to be the Village People?!

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from beaver93 wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

Congrats to the winner and to everyone who participated!!! There were many clever photos. I can agree that this years winner is controversial, but it is the winner. the S&W M&P 22 LR is a fun gun and you will enjoy it.
I believe that a one photo per person rule should be enforced to filter the "clutter" of one person submitting dozens of pictures, it almost seems like desperation rather than good sportsmanship. Let everyone have an equal chance, that is my opinion.
Again, it was great to see everyones photos. Be safe and HAPPY SHOOTING!!!

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from Jeff Bowers wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

I didn't mean staged, as in with a director and script girls.

I meant that in the original raising, people were hunkered down because they were still getting sporadic fire. The photographer seems pretty low to the ground. I believe his camera was damaged during this.

In the movie you reference, when the second flag is raised, people are just standing around watching.

I have been inspired by the Rosenthal picture pretty much my whole life. But the second raising, for the very fact that it is the second raising, is 'A' symbol of freedom and sacrifice, not 'The' symbol.

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from Eric Greene wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

Buckhunter I read Flags of Our Fathers, the story of the Men who raised the flag. Great book.

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from JDubYa wrote 2 years 30 weeks ago

I'm not going to say much as for whether they were wrong or right in winning the contest, I myself entered quite a few pictures hoping to win a "first gun" for my First son. But I will express how ridiculous it is that people are calling them "Village People" imitators.
Looks to me like they were trying to portray those who were originally in the the "Iwo Jima" Raising of the flag picture. The Indian being as previously stated Ira Hayes.
Show a little respect.

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from JDubYa wrote 2 years 30 weeks ago

And just to add to my comment, my family history has a very long line of Marines.
My grandfather being one of them, who was deployed for quite some time during WW2.
So yes I take very offensively when someone disrespects a soldier, especially a Marine.

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from macbeth101 wrote 2 years 30 weeks ago

Well written steelbird.
I am disappointed by F&S myself.

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from Jim in Mo wrote 2 years 30 weeks ago

Dave nor Phil did this post, it was the editors. I get it, but they should put a by-line so we all get it.

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from tractorman wrote 2 years 30 weeks ago

I would like to add my voice to those few that have stepped up to the plate for nathansdad. I think if i were him this whole winning thing might be completely ruined by now. Maybe not, who knows... I would like to point out that he has explained himself twice (which i don't think he should have to do) and apologized profusely to all those taking offense (which i think is down-right decent of him). It seems to me he is genuinely concerned that people feel he is making light of something that HE, himself, apparently feels strongly about. My dad once told me that only a great fool takes offense when offense isn't meant, and I think we can all agree that his intention was to honor and thank those who gave themselves to the cause. My grandfather fought in the pacific and far from offended, i feel he has been honored. Thankyou nathansdad. Nathan, i say you got a good dad. Enjoy your gun!
p.s. those of you who can agree, give this post a plus one or put your own two cents in. Lets let the man feel good about winning. He deserves it.

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from Shaw07 wrote 2 years 30 weeks ago

Awesome picture!

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from tgarrett wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

Boy I didn't know that the contest was to pick "the most patriotic" picture, considering the exact same picture was picked to win 2 years in a row...both with the gun nut target on a flag pole under the American flag...the only difference is the village people are in this year's. I thought it was supposed to be "the most creative" picture. I guess at least I know what to for next year. Find a flag pole with the American flag and put the new gun nut target below it, and I'll win the gun.

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from Jim in Mo wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

There is no by-line under who posted and is speaking for the contest.

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from Dewline wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

This is a sad comment on one of the most famous images from WWII. F&S, you should be ashamed for allowing this, and the submitters should be ashamed as well.

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from deanlikes2fish wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

As a 16 year Marine Coprs Veteran, I dislike the picture but I understand what the photo was trying to communicate. Like I have heard many times, good initative, bad judgement.

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from buckhunter wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

The problem is Big Country gets +2 for looking it up on Google and I get nothing for reading the book. What is this country going to? No offense Big Country. Just making a point.

Google is going to be the death of this country.

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from Arlo269 wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

I guess agree to disagree!!

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from duckcreekdick wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

The famous still photo of the second flag raising was not staged, Jeff4066, as the movie footage of the same event will show. The posed group photo taken afterwards was staged, as your recommended website clearly shows.
Yes, the winning picture shows creative tackiness.

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from Jeff Bowers wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

Cop, Soldier, Cowboy, and Indian?

My Gosh! You ARE the Village People!

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from vasportsman wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

Awesome job, congrats!

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from gxx9sdb wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

Congratulations to the winners, great photo... but what happened to the contest?!? I thought the rules said that people could vote on the pictures and pick the top 5 or something.

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from CL3 wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

oh, that is excellent! well done!

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from firedog11 wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

I would rather people take the photo in a positive way rather than negative. I believe in my heart that those in the photo meant this as a sort of tribute than anything else. I do agree it is time to put some limits on what is expected one being that the target must be clearly visible and understandable.

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from Jere Smith wrote 2 years 30 weeks ago

I was pretty po'd UNTIL I read nathansdad's explanation, not I am just a little disappointed in the Method of the picture,. I don't approve of "copying" or reproducing photos that other Professional Photographer's have taken combat photographers especially (since I was one in Viet Nam). But it was not done with malice, so let them enjoy their prize.

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from dtownley wrote 2 years 29 weeks ago

Congratulations NATHANSDAD ! I see nothing iconoclastic in this photo. Its history relived, we acknowledge the sacrifice. When I see our flag representing this country, it never fails to cause an emotional release of both joy & sorrow. Painful memories of hard fought for territories are part of this countries history, hence reenactments. No one in this country has to travel far to thank a veteran.

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from buckhead wrote 2 years 31 weeks ago

love it! patriotic and speaks to our guns heritage.

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from macbeth101 wrote 2 years 30 weeks ago

Who voted for this pic? Can anyone realy say that they clicked on the vote box for this pic? I demand a recount call me bitter. Had anyone noticed the contest photos were on two different F&S web pages. One site had all photos with no way to vote... the other had 1/2 the photos and let you vote and this pic was not on that page. Not fair to the other half, myself included. I contacted F&S and they did nothing about it even if it was bad software I received no response on this matter. The pic looks alot like the photo that won last years 2010 Gun Nut Target Photo Contest. Why is that? If you photo crop it where the flag pole meets the hands and add color you'll see that they are almost the same photo. If I won this 2011 contest I would not accept the prize or any recognition.

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