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November 10, 2011

The Trijicon Accupoint 3X-9X: A High Quality Scope For a Reasonable Price

By David E. Petzal

Trijicon (which is an American company, by the way) is probably best known for its ACOG red-dot sight, which is currently issued to the United States Marine Corps so they can shoot whoever disagrees with Hillary Rodham Clinton. Even if you’re not a Marine, you should be aware of the company’s line of conventional Accupoint rifle scopes. They are of extremely high quality, and I used an Accupoint 3X-9X (Model TR20-1) on a .270 to end the career of a Wyoming mule deer a little while ago.

 

I’ve long had a Trijicon 2.5X-10X-56 on my beanfield rifle, so the brand is nothing new to me, but in case it is to you, what makes Trijicon unique is its ambient-light-powered aiming dot system, used in conjunction with standard or mil-dot crosshairs, or with Trijicon’s post reticle (which is what I have on the beanfield gun). The Trijicon system works to perfection, uses no batteries (in case there’s no ambient light a tritium implant takes over), and lets you adjust the brightness of the dot to where you like it.

My experience with the dot is that you’ll seldomly need it, unless you make a practice of hunting in first and last light. But every once in a while, as I found in Wyoming, it makes all the difference. If that deer had not been standing in a light-colored part of the field so I could get a good look at him, and if I had not had the green dot to aim with, it would have been a different story.

Last summer I had occasion to compare my beanfield Trijicon to three other scopes that cost a lot more (and I do mean a lot) and was shocked at how good its optics are. They stood up just fine in the company of scopes that cost half again as much.

The MSRP for the 3X-9X is $900, but in the real world I see it being sold for $700 and change, and I wouldn’t be at all surprised if you could get one for less than that. At any price, it’s a great all-around scope. For more intel, go to trijicon.com.

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from Jere Smith wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

Sounds decent enough!

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from dneaster3 wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

On that triangle-and-post reticle, what is the precise aiming point? How big is the triangle? Is it a six-o'clock hold like on a pistol, or do you cover your target with the triangle?

With it on a "bean field rifle" (presumably a Jarrett?), I would think you have a surgically precise scope to match the rifle's capabilities, no?

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from Jim in Mo wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

Dave or Phil or Editors,
Why no byline no more? Who am I reading?
BTW, I like Trijicon.

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from tonto wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

Jim in Mo. You know if he even mentions Hillary that it's Uncle Dave. No one else can get away with that stuff.

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from 10527 wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

Dr. Sr. Half of The Gun Nut duo,

Final sentence of paragraph 4, "They stood up just fine in the company of scopes that cost half as much."?? Did you mean 'half the price and every bit as good' or 'just as good for half the money (of the three high-dollar scopes you reviewed)....OR was that a subtle comparison to Hillary ('twice the price, and half as good' OR perhaps 'two for the price of one', which we're STILL paying for!)?

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from Ol Krusty wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

If Petzal says its a great scope that's good enough for me. I bought a Bushnell Elite 4200 a few years ago for my 223 after reading a comment by Petzal about it in a Field and Stream magazine and I have been very satisfied. I have looked at Trijicons in the past but passed on it because i was concerned about the triangle post reticle, it not being a traditional cross hair, I was not sure if I would like it. Perhaps I need to stop being too traditional.

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from O Garcia wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

Trijicon Accupoints are available with crosshair reticles.

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from Jim in Avon wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

Just a tad dyspeptic in the lede there today, aren't we, sir? Besides, although Hillary, much as you may love her, is the Secretary of State, it remains the prerogative of B. Hussein Obama to determine who the Marines will shoot during the next several months (and perhaps years, if the other guys can find none better than a shopworn, Brylcreamed chameleon to bear their gonfalon).

But that's beside today's point, which is: How does one pronounce the name of the company whose product you herein vouchsafe? My best Spanish guess would make it "TRY-he-con," or perhaps "Try-HE-con," while standard American English might render it "TRY-jah-con."

Whatever, it is the sort of detail one should know before exposing one's ignorance before the firearms filberts (forgive the Page-ism) down at the local gun rack and tall tale exchange. So, how say we "Trijicon?"

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from shane wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

Jim -

"Trijicon (which is an American company, by the way)"

None of that Spanish slop. Tridg-ick-on.

"none better than a shopworn, Brylcreamed chameleon to bear their gonfalon"

Hire this guy.

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from shane wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

Some crusties on here are slow to warm up to Trijicon. They might be confusing it with TruGlo crap? Trijicon is the real deal, whether you need the low light stuff, or not.

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from shane wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

As for the triangle aiming point - It's just as precise as anything else.

Don't cover anything with the triangle or use a 6 O'clock hold.

Simply use the upper point to lightly poke what you intend to destroy, and pull the trigger.

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from white bison wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

In my opinion, Trijicon Scopes are tops. I have 3 or 4 of them, all with the glowing triangular top post. Amber
mostly & 1 red. Your aim point is the top of the triangle,a single aim point. It works quicker than crosshairs., Just put the top point of the triangle on the target. The triangle is permanently lighted by an
enclosed radioactive substance, like the stuff in Luminox
Watches (Official Navy Seals Watch.) No other scope has this permanent illuminated reticle. If I had a Trijicon in Namibia in the Leopard blind, I wouldn't have had to quit due to darkness & would have gotten my Leopard. I since have bought Trijicons. But although the
Trijicons have this unique feature that all other scopes lack...as a great "Plus"...as the writer says...
the Optics are superb. To me, all other scope makers have missed the mark by not having the glowing, lit reticle of a Trijicon. A lot of hunting is in dusk, low light situations...and the Trijicons are by far the Optimum scopes. In ordinary situations they excel due to the superb optics & quick aim point. Anyone who doesn't use a Trijicon is not up to speed, or behind the times. They just outclass other scopes, period.
Thanks to the writer for this topic, maybe some hunters'
eyes will be opened.
Best Regards,
Tom from Cody

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from white bison wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

I finally recalled the name of the radioactive substance in the reticle of Trijicon scopes..its "Tritium", a
radioactive isotope of Hydrogen. Also used in watches like the Navy Seals "Luminox" watches.
Best Regards,
Tom

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from rock rat wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

If the scope is as good as something that costs half as much why not get the one that costs half as much? Wingnut math?

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from duckcreekdick wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

I'm with Jim in Mo. Why no bylines?

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from tonto wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

Anyone that is shooting an AR type sporting rifle should take a close look at their ACOG scopes. For fast acquistion on moving targets or close ranges they are superb. They use the binding aiming concept in which you keep both eyes open giving you a better view of a wide area. Once you acquire the target you will instinctively focus on the reticle in the scope. Yes, they are expensive, but with a quick detach mount you can use it on several guns. Tough enough for our military. I use mine to shoot pigs in Texas.

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from ishawooa wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

I have never owned a Trijicon but have admired them for years. In fact a friend who trots the globe with his .416 and other rifles prefers this brand to all others. He can afford and does own "all others". His reasoning is exactly as stated regarding the ability to utilize the illuminated recticle and the quality of the scope in general. I think I should put one on my .416 to see if I can more precisely burst local boulders better than with my Leupold. I also might make an African trip one day...

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from davidpetzal wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

To all: The "scopes that cost half as much" was my mistake. It should have read "scopes that cost half again as much."

With the post reticle, which is pointed, I use a 6 o'clock hold. Put the point right under whatever you want to hit and pull the trigger.

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from Beekeeper wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

Dave, I'll add to your posting that if someone is a certified Hunter Ed instructor Trijicon will sell you one at a very good price.

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from Zermoid wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

Your idea of "reasonable" is about twice what mine is.....

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from Zermoid wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

BTW, what do you do when the tritium implant dies in about 10 years? Is it replaceable or do you either live without it or buy a new scope?

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from spuddog wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

DEP, is there a reason that you skipped over the question about the byline? I'm curious, too.

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from white bison wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

About the Tritium...I think it lasts longer than 10 years...but you would have to ask Trijicon about it. They
may even offer a replacement. Also...some said the price is high...but if you have a friendly dealer...the dealer
price is a lot lower. Scopes are notorious for being marked up a lot. I bought my first 3-9X Trijicon for
under $500...now I think the dealer price is about $525 for the 3-9X. I have a Tritium watch that has lasted well
over 10 years, more than 15,so I'm not sure what the longevity of the Tritium is.
Tom

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from dtownley wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

A Kahles scope that was on a Steyr SSG I was loaned had this type of reticle and was the most user friendly I had used. I found out that the scope was near 3Xs the cost of the rifle, so to read the Trijicon received a thumbs up from the Gun Nut has me digging in the back yard for one of my jars.
Questions for Mr. Petzal, you mention a green dot, is the green a contrast" go to hue "? Do you also
have the red dot and / or amber dot on another set-up ?
Thanks for your timely editorial on this equipment.
White Bison a similar question for you, the red & amber dot models you have, did find the amber the more useable hue ? not meaning to sound rude are you stuck with the red ?
The questions for you both are based on hunting in very green surrounding here in E. TX. Thanks

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from davidpetzal wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

To all, about the byline: I called the website administrator, asked where the byline was, and received as an answer some kind of technoid gibberish which completely escaped me. Apparently they are working on posting a byline, or not, and it will be up by Thanksgiving, or not. Maybe Christmas.

About tritium implants: I think most of them run about 25 years.

About dot colors. All the colors work fine. They are bright enough, and contrasty enough, that you have no trouble picking them up. But given a choice, I'd opt for red.

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from fitch270 wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

Beekeeper,
How do you go about getting the Hunter Ed deal
from them? I've tried with other companies that
make those offers, but never get answers to my
E-mails.
Thanks

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from white bison wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

dtownley: In answer to your question...There are different choices of reticles available on the Trijicon scopes. The ones I have are a vertical post with an amber or red triangle at the top of each post. Trijicon has now made scopes, responding to popular demand no doubt,has offered scopes with crosshair & lighted Tritium dot at the center of the crosshairs. I prefer the top
triangle...when you need to be aware of...if you choose the crosshair & dot reticle...the dot,has less Tritium..since the dot has to be small to not subtend too much at a distance. Otherwise, if the dot is too big, it will cover up too much of the target...so the dot, having to be made small, contains less Tritium, hence is less bright. (Trijicon's tech advised me of this). Now...I like the amber triangle as it is very contrasty to whatever you are shooting at. Seems the brightest & offers most contrast. I didn't think I'd like the red triangle reticle as much, but after using it...it is just fine. I understand your question re. the green dot...of course. The green dot would blend in too much in a green setting, I would choose an amber dot (if you choose a crosshair & dot type)...but would recommend the single point post with top triangle reticle amber color. That handles it all. Red is also good. But not green in a green backgound.
Now...a point I want to make...every shooter is brought up with a crosshair scope..and like human nature, is reluctant to change habits...I was the same, but after trying & using the post with triangle aim point, I like it better now...its quicker for me...no need to find the crosshair center...(only probably a split second...but its there). Place the apex of the triangle at the aim point...one point, easy & as accurate. Like some, old dogs can be taught new tricks.
Trijicon also claims its faster.
The best idea is jut to go to www.Trijicon.com and see the type reticles offered. I endorse the post tritium
triangle reticle. Its brighter than the dot, and again, instead of putting a dot on target, you are putting a top point of the triangle instead.
I recently shot a nice Fallow Deer with the 3-9X Trijicon with the red triangle post.
Best regards,
Tom

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from white bison wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

To be scrupulously honest...what are any drawbacks to the
Trijicon scopes?...I find only one, if it can be called one. The daylight light shield just forward of the power adjustment ring, makes the main scope body shorter...and
thus spacing of the rings is restricted...so you may need to play with the mounts, maybe going to an extended ring type to get your best eye relief. But, that's minor. I
remember the old, long main tube scopes...you could adjust with a lot of latitude, no problem.
Trijicon just got a new contract for their military type scopes...into the thousands...so they are doing something right. After my ignominous episode with running out of enough light for my standard scope in the Leopard blind (Leopard was incidental anyway on my hunt)...I went to Trijicon...now like them for any purpose.
Tom from Cody

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from Clay Cooper wrote 1 year 30 weeks ago

How do they stand up to magnum recoil?

$900 bucks?

I can buy 3 Leupold VX-II 3-9x40mm and I know they are Alaskan proven and even in low light, I never had an issue.

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from white bison wrote 1 year 30 weeks ago

Trijicons stand up to magnum recoil as well as any scope.
You can get them much cheaper than $900...find a reasonable dealer...my 3-9X cost less than $500.
Tom

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from dale freeman wrote 1 year 30 weeks ago

For those wanting to know the life of the "Trigicons", I can't say, but I can tell you the life a "Leupold".
I had one for about 30 years and used it often and rough as hell.
Finely it got "spider wires" around the ouside of the sight picture.
I called "Leupold" and they asked that I send it back to them.
About three days later they called me and offered the scope of my choice.
God bless an American, "Leupold".

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from dale freeman wrote 1 year 30 weeks ago

For those wanting to know the life of the "Trigicons", I can't say, but I can tell you the life a "Leupold".
I had one for about 30 years and used it often and rough as hell.
Finely it got "spider wires" around the ouside of the sight picture.
I called "Leupold" and they asked that I send it back to them.
About three days later they called me and offered the scope of my choice.
God bless an American, "Leupold".

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from Clay Cooper wrote 1 year 30 weeks ago

dale freeman

I REST MY CASE!

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from VJ wrote 1 year 30 weeks ago

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from Beekeeper wrote 1 year 30 weeks ago

Fitch,

I called them through the customer service line and they quoted a price after I faxed a copy of my certification card. That is generally the way it works with all the companies. Leupold and Burris make it really easy.

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from Steve in Virginia wrote 1 year 30 weeks ago

Dave -- you had me when you said "American company".

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from dtownley wrote 1 year 30 weeks ago

White Bison & Gun Nut, thank you for the insight on the product.

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from Jim in Mo wrote 1 year 30 weeks ago

Tom (white bison) lets talk, I'd love to have an extra scope as this for the price you mentioned.
jim9076@att.net

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from GuyGene wrote 1 year 30 weeks ago

$900 or $500, I don't know what y'all do for a living, but I just cannot afford that for a scope. I need a scope, so read this article, but still too expensive for me. Think I'll check out the Nikon again at Cabela's for $129. It has good reviews, and I can still eat eggs and bacon and drink coffee after buying one of those!

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from nelsol wrote 1 year 30 weeks ago

To GuyGene: while your are checking out the Nikon at Cablea's, take a look at the Redfield. Made by Leupold and a real bargain.
To DEP: Thanks for your wisdom. You did a piece on the Leupold VX111 3x-9x CDS scope a while back. Great concept without having to look at multiple lines or dots within the reticle for elevation compensation. The elevation turret is custom to your caliber and load (bullet weight, fps, and BC). You call Leupold, give them the information, and within 3 weeks or so receive the custom elevation turret.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 1 year 30 weeks ago

Ditto 'nelsol'

I had a Leupold 3-9x40 retrofitted with the CDS turret system for one of my rifles and am very pleased with it. It tracks spot on at 100 and 200 yards and appears to be on at 300 yards as well. A good basic system!

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from Jim in Mo wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

Dave or Phil or Editors,
Why no byline no more? Who am I reading?
BTW, I like Trijicon.

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from Jim in Avon wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

Just a tad dyspeptic in the lede there today, aren't we, sir? Besides, although Hillary, much as you may love her, is the Secretary of State, it remains the prerogative of B. Hussein Obama to determine who the Marines will shoot during the next several months (and perhaps years, if the other guys can find none better than a shopworn, Brylcreamed chameleon to bear their gonfalon).

But that's beside today's point, which is: How does one pronounce the name of the company whose product you herein vouchsafe? My best Spanish guess would make it "TRY-he-con," or perhaps "Try-HE-con," while standard American English might render it "TRY-jah-con."

Whatever, it is the sort of detail one should know before exposing one's ignorance before the firearms filberts (forgive the Page-ism) down at the local gun rack and tall tale exchange. So, how say we "Trijicon?"

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from white bison wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

dtownley: In answer to your question...There are different choices of reticles available on the Trijicon scopes. The ones I have are a vertical post with an amber or red triangle at the top of each post. Trijicon has now made scopes, responding to popular demand no doubt,has offered scopes with crosshair & lighted Tritium dot at the center of the crosshairs. I prefer the top
triangle...when you need to be aware of...if you choose the crosshair & dot reticle...the dot,has less Tritium..since the dot has to be small to not subtend too much at a distance. Otherwise, if the dot is too big, it will cover up too much of the target...so the dot, having to be made small, contains less Tritium, hence is less bright. (Trijicon's tech advised me of this). Now...I like the amber triangle as it is very contrasty to whatever you are shooting at. Seems the brightest & offers most contrast. I didn't think I'd like the red triangle reticle as much, but after using it...it is just fine. I understand your question re. the green dot...of course. The green dot would blend in too much in a green setting, I would choose an amber dot (if you choose a crosshair & dot type)...but would recommend the single point post with top triangle reticle amber color. That handles it all. Red is also good. But not green in a green backgound.
Now...a point I want to make...every shooter is brought up with a crosshair scope..and like human nature, is reluctant to change habits...I was the same, but after trying & using the post with triangle aim point, I like it better now...its quicker for me...no need to find the crosshair center...(only probably a split second...but its there). Place the apex of the triangle at the aim point...one point, easy & as accurate. Like some, old dogs can be taught new tricks.
Trijicon also claims its faster.
The best idea is jut to go to www.Trijicon.com and see the type reticles offered. I endorse the post tritium
triangle reticle. Its brighter than the dot, and again, instead of putting a dot on target, you are putting a top point of the triangle instead.
I recently shot a nice Fallow Deer with the 3-9X Trijicon with the red triangle post.
Best regards,
Tom

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from white bison wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

In my opinion, Trijicon Scopes are tops. I have 3 or 4 of them, all with the glowing triangular top post. Amber
mostly & 1 red. Your aim point is the top of the triangle,a single aim point. It works quicker than crosshairs., Just put the top point of the triangle on the target. The triangle is permanently lighted by an
enclosed radioactive substance, like the stuff in Luminox
Watches (Official Navy Seals Watch.) No other scope has this permanent illuminated reticle. If I had a Trijicon in Namibia in the Leopard blind, I wouldn't have had to quit due to darkness & would have gotten my Leopard. I since have bought Trijicons. But although the
Trijicons have this unique feature that all other scopes lack...as a great "Plus"...as the writer says...
the Optics are superb. To me, all other scope makers have missed the mark by not having the glowing, lit reticle of a Trijicon. A lot of hunting is in dusk, low light situations...and the Trijicons are by far the Optimum scopes. In ordinary situations they excel due to the superb optics & quick aim point. Anyone who doesn't use a Trijicon is not up to speed, or behind the times. They just outclass other scopes, period.
Thanks to the writer for this topic, maybe some hunters'
eyes will be opened.
Best Regards,
Tom from Cody

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from duckcreekdick wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

I'm with Jim in Mo. Why no bylines?

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from white bison wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

To be scrupulously honest...what are any drawbacks to the
Trijicon scopes?...I find only one, if it can be called one. The daylight light shield just forward of the power adjustment ring, makes the main scope body shorter...and
thus spacing of the rings is restricted...so you may need to play with the mounts, maybe going to an extended ring type to get your best eye relief. But, that's minor. I
remember the old, long main tube scopes...you could adjust with a lot of latitude, no problem.
Trijicon just got a new contract for their military type scopes...into the thousands...so they are doing something right. After my ignominous episode with running out of enough light for my standard scope in the Leopard blind (Leopard was incidental anyway on my hunt)...I went to Trijicon...now like them for any purpose.
Tom from Cody

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from white bison wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

I finally recalled the name of the radioactive substance in the reticle of Trijicon scopes..its "Tritium", a
radioactive isotope of Hydrogen. Also used in watches like the Navy Seals "Luminox" watches.
Best Regards,
Tom

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from ishawooa wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

I have never owned a Trijicon but have admired them for years. In fact a friend who trots the globe with his .416 and other rifles prefers this brand to all others. He can afford and does own "all others". His reasoning is exactly as stated regarding the ability to utilize the illuminated recticle and the quality of the scope in general. I think I should put one on my .416 to see if I can more precisely burst local boulders better than with my Leupold. I also might make an African trip one day...

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from white bison wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

About the Tritium...I think it lasts longer than 10 years...but you would have to ask Trijicon about it. They
may even offer a replacement. Also...some said the price is high...but if you have a friendly dealer...the dealer
price is a lot lower. Scopes are notorious for being marked up a lot. I bought my first 3-9X Trijicon for
under $500...now I think the dealer price is about $525 for the 3-9X. I have a Tritium watch that has lasted well
over 10 years, more than 15,so I'm not sure what the longevity of the Tritium is.
Tom

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from dtownley wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

A Kahles scope that was on a Steyr SSG I was loaned had this type of reticle and was the most user friendly I had used. I found out that the scope was near 3Xs the cost of the rifle, so to read the Trijicon received a thumbs up from the Gun Nut has me digging in the back yard for one of my jars.
Questions for Mr. Petzal, you mention a green dot, is the green a contrast" go to hue "? Do you also
have the red dot and / or amber dot on another set-up ?
Thanks for your timely editorial on this equipment.
White Bison a similar question for you, the red & amber dot models you have, did find the amber the more useable hue ? not meaning to sound rude are you stuck with the red ?
The questions for you both are based on hunting in very green surrounding here in E. TX. Thanks

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from davidpetzal wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

To all, about the byline: I called the website administrator, asked where the byline was, and received as an answer some kind of technoid gibberish which completely escaped me. Apparently they are working on posting a byline, or not, and it will be up by Thanksgiving, or not. Maybe Christmas.

About tritium implants: I think most of them run about 25 years.

About dot colors. All the colors work fine. They are bright enough, and contrasty enough, that you have no trouble picking them up. But given a choice, I'd opt for red.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 1 year 30 weeks ago

How do they stand up to magnum recoil?

$900 bucks?

I can buy 3 Leupold VX-II 3-9x40mm and I know they are Alaskan proven and even in low light, I never had an issue.

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from white bison wrote 1 year 30 weeks ago

Trijicons stand up to magnum recoil as well as any scope.
You can get them much cheaper than $900...find a reasonable dealer...my 3-9X cost less than $500.
Tom

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from Jere Smith wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

Sounds decent enough!

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from dneaster3 wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

On that triangle-and-post reticle, what is the precise aiming point? How big is the triangle? Is it a six-o'clock hold like on a pistol, or do you cover your target with the triangle?

With it on a "bean field rifle" (presumably a Jarrett?), I would think you have a surgically precise scope to match the rifle's capabilities, no?

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from tonto wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

Jim in Mo. You know if he even mentions Hillary that it's Uncle Dave. No one else can get away with that stuff.

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from 10527 wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

Dr. Sr. Half of The Gun Nut duo,

Final sentence of paragraph 4, "They stood up just fine in the company of scopes that cost half as much."?? Did you mean 'half the price and every bit as good' or 'just as good for half the money (of the three high-dollar scopes you reviewed)....OR was that a subtle comparison to Hillary ('twice the price, and half as good' OR perhaps 'two for the price of one', which we're STILL paying for!)?

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from Ol Krusty wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

If Petzal says its a great scope that's good enough for me. I bought a Bushnell Elite 4200 a few years ago for my 223 after reading a comment by Petzal about it in a Field and Stream magazine and I have been very satisfied. I have looked at Trijicons in the past but passed on it because i was concerned about the triangle post reticle, it not being a traditional cross hair, I was not sure if I would like it. Perhaps I need to stop being too traditional.

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from O Garcia wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

Trijicon Accupoints are available with crosshair reticles.

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from shane wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

Jim -

"Trijicon (which is an American company, by the way)"

None of that Spanish slop. Tridg-ick-on.

"none better than a shopworn, Brylcreamed chameleon to bear their gonfalon"

Hire this guy.

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from shane wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

Some crusties on here are slow to warm up to Trijicon. They might be confusing it with TruGlo crap? Trijicon is the real deal, whether you need the low light stuff, or not.

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from shane wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

As for the triangle aiming point - It's just as precise as anything else.

Don't cover anything with the triangle or use a 6 O'clock hold.

Simply use the upper point to lightly poke what you intend to destroy, and pull the trigger.

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from rock rat wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

If the scope is as good as something that costs half as much why not get the one that costs half as much? Wingnut math?

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from tonto wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

Anyone that is shooting an AR type sporting rifle should take a close look at their ACOG scopes. For fast acquistion on moving targets or close ranges they are superb. They use the binding aiming concept in which you keep both eyes open giving you a better view of a wide area. Once you acquire the target you will instinctively focus on the reticle in the scope. Yes, they are expensive, but with a quick detach mount you can use it on several guns. Tough enough for our military. I use mine to shoot pigs in Texas.

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from davidpetzal wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

To all: The "scopes that cost half as much" was my mistake. It should have read "scopes that cost half again as much."

With the post reticle, which is pointed, I use a 6 o'clock hold. Put the point right under whatever you want to hit and pull the trigger.

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from Beekeeper wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

Dave, I'll add to your posting that if someone is a certified Hunter Ed instructor Trijicon will sell you one at a very good price.

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from Zermoid wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

Your idea of "reasonable" is about twice what mine is.....

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from Zermoid wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

BTW, what do you do when the tritium implant dies in about 10 years? Is it replaceable or do you either live without it or buy a new scope?

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from spuddog wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

DEP, is there a reason that you skipped over the question about the byline? I'm curious, too.

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from fitch270 wrote 1 year 31 weeks ago

Beekeeper,
How do you go about getting the Hunter Ed deal
from them? I've tried with other companies that
make those offers, but never get answers to my
E-mails.
Thanks

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from dale freeman wrote 1 year 30 weeks ago

For those wanting to know the life of the "Trigicons", I can't say, but I can tell you the life a "Leupold".
I had one for about 30 years and used it often and rough as hell.
Finely it got "spider wires" around the ouside of the sight picture.
I called "Leupold" and they asked that I send it back to them.
About three days later they called me and offered the scope of my choice.
God bless an American, "Leupold".

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from dale freeman wrote 1 year 30 weeks ago

For those wanting to know the life of the "Trigicons", I can't say, but I can tell you the life a "Leupold".
I had one for about 30 years and used it often and rough as hell.
Finely it got "spider wires" around the ouside of the sight picture.
I called "Leupold" and they asked that I send it back to them.
About three days later they called me and offered the scope of my choice.
God bless an American, "Leupold".

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from Clay Cooper wrote 1 year 30 weeks ago

dale freeman

I REST MY CASE!

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from Beekeeper wrote 1 year 30 weeks ago

Fitch,

I called them through the customer service line and they quoted a price after I faxed a copy of my certification card. That is generally the way it works with all the companies. Leupold and Burris make it really easy.

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from Steve in Virginia wrote 1 year 30 weeks ago

Dave -- you had me when you said "American company".

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from dtownley wrote 1 year 30 weeks ago

White Bison & Gun Nut, thank you for the insight on the product.

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from Jim in Mo wrote 1 year 30 weeks ago

Tom (white bison) lets talk, I'd love to have an extra scope as this for the price you mentioned.
jim9076@att.net

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from GuyGene wrote 1 year 30 weeks ago

$900 or $500, I don't know what y'all do for a living, but I just cannot afford that for a scope. I need a scope, so read this article, but still too expensive for me. Think I'll check out the Nikon again at Cabela's for $129. It has good reviews, and I can still eat eggs and bacon and drink coffee after buying one of those!

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from nelsol wrote 1 year 30 weeks ago

To GuyGene: while your are checking out the Nikon at Cablea's, take a look at the Redfield. Made by Leupold and a real bargain.
To DEP: Thanks for your wisdom. You did a piece on the Leupold VX111 3x-9x CDS scope a while back. Great concept without having to look at multiple lines or dots within the reticle for elevation compensation. The elevation turret is custom to your caliber and load (bullet weight, fps, and BC). You call Leupold, give them the information, and within 3 weeks or so receive the custom elevation turret.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 1 year 30 weeks ago

Ditto 'nelsol'

I had a Leupold 3-9x40 retrofitted with the CDS turret system for one of my rifles and am very pleased with it. It tracks spot on at 100 and 200 yards and appears to be on at 300 yards as well. A good basic system!

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from VJ wrote 1 year 30 weeks ago

Please see the below email and provide support! It would be greatly appreciated if you guys could write a blog post about this situation!

Dear fellow 2nd amendment supporters,

I would not write a mass email like this if there weren't a dire emergency to do so. First and foremost, I apologize for contacting you in a mass email format instead of taking the time to contact you individually. If there were time to contact you individually, I would. If you reply to this email that you do not wish to be contacted, I will respect your wishes.

Many of you may have heard that a good friend of mine and a staunch 2nd amendment rights supporter in Arizona, Attorney David Appleton, is in jail on charges of 2nd degree MURDER for morally and lawfully defending his life. He was driving on Thursday night when another driver began to tailgate him and threaten him. He pulled over, and the other guy followed. The other guy approached Dave's car, reached through the window, and tried to choke him with his shirt inside his car. In the news videos, you can clearly see that Dave's shirt is ripped. Dave is a 60 year-old man with a small frame, and the man who tried to kill him is a 50 year-old man of a lot larger stature. Dave was forced to either shoot and kill the man who was choking him or die. He did the responsible thing and called the police immediately to try to save the man's life. The man died an hour later in the hospital. Dave did the right thing, and now he is in the middle of a nightmare.

As usual, the media has completely twisted the story into lies. You may have read that Dave Appleton succumbed to road rage and was the aggressor. This is the same typical propaganda that the media uses to persecute anyone who is forced to use their 2nd amendment rights to protect themselves. Here are some links filled with the one-sided story and lies. The press has already tried, convicted, and sentenced Dave without even knowing what actually happened. This is very sad and unfortunate for the man's family, but I know that if Dave pulled the trigger, it was because he had no other choice.
http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2011/11/scottsdale_defense_...
http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region_northeast_valley/scottsdale/Scottsd...
http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/crime/road-rage-victims-friend-talk...

Dave Appleton is an upstanding citizen and the type of guy that goes out of his way to help others. He has been a responsible gun owner for over 30 years. The media is portraying him as a criminal who was itching to shoot someone. If Dave was itching to shoot someone, he would have done so by now. He is a kind, gentle, caring, even-keel man. I became friends with him when he went out of his way to help my family. He has been a strong supporter of our 2nd amendment rights in AZ for decades.

This issue is not just about Dave. This is about our 2nd amendment rights to be able to defend ourselves and not be put through legal and financial hell. This generous, caring, loving man could be in jail for the rest of his life if we don't take action immediately. This could happen to any one of us who carry guns responsibly and are forced to defend ourselves. If Dave gets indicted this week and his case goes to trial, he will have to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to get himself out of this mess. The damage to his reputation and his career will most likely remain with him for the rest of his life no matter what happens.

There is a whole community of supporters behind Dave because of his generosity and help to his community for decades. Please join us in getting justice for Dave and protecting your 2nd amendment rights. Let's let law enforcement and the media know that it is not OK to put law-abiding gun owners through this. Let's force our side of the story to be heard by the media. Dave was well within his 2nd amendment rights and Arizona Castle Doctrine because AZ Castle Doctrine extends to your vehicle in Arizona.

We have to be ever vigilant in protecting our 2nd amendment rights. Every time this happens, we must band together and fight for our Constitution-given rights. Do not let this slide. Do not take your rights for granted. Do not think that someone else will protect your rights for you. YOU must stand up for your rights continually, or they will be taken away. Now is the time to join together.

Here is how you can help:
1. Join, like, and post your messages of support on our Facebook page
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Friends-of-Justice-for-David-Appleton/2372...

2. Show up tomorrow for a press conference tomorrow Monday, November 14 at 10:45 to 11:30. We need 45 minutes of your time. Stand up and stand with us, "Friends of Justice for Dave Appleton".

Media Press Conference
Nov. 14 Monday
10:45 a.m. to 11:30 a.m.
in front of the
The 4th Ave Jail
201 S 4th Ave
Phoenix, AZ

We need as many people as we can muster. There will be 2 or 3 of us that are the spokespersons for "Friends of Justice for Dave Appleton". You do not need to speak to the media. To avoid the media sling us through the mud, do not wear any camo type clothing.

3. If Dave is not indicted and the case goes to a pre-trial hearing, join us in Court to show your support. There is a big chance that Dave will be indicted via grand jury and that this pre-trial hearing will not occur. Please check the Facebook page late Wednesday night or early Thursday morning to find out. We will post as soon as we have the information.

If the hearing is held on November 17 at 8:15AM, it will be located at
Downtown Central Court Building
201 W Jefferson Room 2-4
Phoenix, AZ 85003

4. Make a contribution toward Dave's legal expenses by contacting Ina Mlekush at ina@talktoina.com.

5. PASS THIS INFORMATION ALONG!

6. If you have any resources including press, legal, NRA, or anything else, please email Ina Mlekush at ina@talktoina.com.

7. Post your comments of support for Dave on the above news websites to encourage people not to believe what they hear in the news. There is a lot of misinformation spreading around.

Thank you for your time in reading this email. We would greatly appreciate your support.

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