Oh my God. What else will they think of?? Maybe they can come up with a butt wiping attachment for the AR15 platform. Put some sort of attachment to where the magazine is usually attached and just swing the rifle over your shoulder towards your butt and it can do the trick without you having to reach back with your hand. Unbelievable. I have never seen the gun industry look as stupid as it is looking right now.

After carrying one in Vietnam for a year, I never have understood the fascination with the AR-15/M-16, whatever one wishes to call it. But a .50 caliber muzzleloader in this rifle...that is completely nuts!

I can see the game warden shaking his head as he writes the ticket or confiscates the weapon in my WMA muzzleloader only area asking where the upper that I was actually hunting with is hidden and WTF was I thinkin' ??!!

That is really a stretch. What other junk will they come up with for the AR Platform?

For some reason I can't stop my eye from twitching!

Oh goodies. More Craptical Gear. Yay.

I do enjoy the thought of someone dishing out round after round of 250+ grain ammo in front of 150 grains of Pyrodex. Prolly leave that thing in pieces in no time at all.

Wonder if they pressure test each bbl or what the proof mark is for it?

Watch a fly rod upper will be next followed by multiple golf club uppers.

It seems to me, the Gun Nuts have studiously ignored muzzleloading rifles. That AR thing, while cute and testament to the cleverality of us Americans, is just not what I hoped to see.

U_R

I'm all for more muzzleloader info and all and not opposed to any post previewing new shooting and hunting gear. The article is not ridiculous, the weapon is!

During a Gunsite long gun training course a sheriff with a Winchester model 94 cleaned up the course. Everyone else had an AR platform rifle and they all got their asses whipped by the old lever gun.......

I'm sure you could build an upper for any round you want and some folks will love this and sing its praises. Not me, I think this is just silliness.

When I commented on the Mossbergs tactical model 94, I thought I had seen everything. Well, that was pretty naive on my part. An AR muzzeloader? Now I have seen everything. The horror ...the horror.

I have never understood the AR-15/AR-10 craze. I don't care for the gun. As far as I am concerned its a gun for mall ninjas.

Phil,

Now you have gone and done it. I have to see the crossbow upper, please do a thread on it. I need an uncontrolled belly laugh!

I too would liike to see more muzzleloader reviews and articles on the realistic and practical. Maybe even "encourage" Dave to shoot one.

Hopefully they come out with a shovel upper so the owner can bury the gahstly ugly thing when they realize what a inferior gun they have purchased! I've often wondered why manufacturers haven't came out with one with a long action so we hunters can shoot .270 30-06 .280 etc. instead of being limited to short action calibers and pistol rounds, must be the design can't handle the pressures generated by true big game rounds!

I think it stupid, I use a Halken .50 because it looks like and is a Muzzle loader. Not a modern plastic unit.

I don't even have any desire to own an inline, however, this is no more ridiculous than the Savage inline that uses smokeless powder. A lot of the inlines cannot be told from a regular bolt rifle, so what is the difference? Just because this one uses an EBR platform. I will stick with my sidelocks, but I can see where a guy who likes the AR's might want one of these. OK, flame away.

Kevin

From an ATF pov the basic receiver is their jurisdiction. From a G&F pov the means of propulsion are their jurisdiction. Thus in most states the xbow married to the AR platform receiver probably doesn't make it a firearm.

The Pod People got Dave?

They call it a GizMODO, I think Giz MOFO yould be appropriate!

Is there a contest for stupidest AR upper going on?
First a crossbow and now this.......

Is there going to be a slingshot upper brought out soon too?

@ Walt, COBB Manufacturing, a maker of small arms, has a long action AR rifle in 30-06. To date I believe they are the only company that manufactures one in 30-06.
It is a bit pricey too being the only child it is.
As much as I like the AR platform in its many calibers, the crossbow and muzzle loader is a bit over the top for even me.
In reality, a flat top AR with a scope and 5 round magazine, in .243 or .308 is no different except cosmetically than any other semi-auto hunting rifle.

Personally it looks inconvenient bulky and not real practical especially with the .223 primer system.

I have to say that this mussle loader upper is strange and not the best solution for a high tech muzzle loader. However, it is great to see this kind of creativity coming out of the fire arms industry. This is defininately not for everyone, but it is nice to see the industry pushing the limits again allowing for shooters to have all kinds of different experiences. The desire for that experience can be seen through the attendance (both exibitors and participants) at Shot Show this year.

I found the AR Crowbow. AARRRRRRRRRRRRRGH!
http://gizmodo.com/5230045/tac+15-tactical-crossbow-makes-me-wish-for-a-...

I was one of those who was a bit slow to come around and accept the AR's for hunting, but after the firing of a famous hunting writer over the issue and his repentance, I took a closer look and realized that the history of hunting rifles closely follows the history of military weapons. So who was I to say an AR platform is inappropriate for hunting. They make great varmint guns even if they aren't very pretty. But...I think this new use as a muzzleloader is just some AR nuts desperately trying to fob AR acceptance in every corner of the rifle world and is pretty ridiculous.

I'd have half the county and state dnr on my butt if I dropped by state land with that thing in hand. "Sorry officer it's just a muzzle loader with a few modifications!"
On a serious note these so called black rifles have been under a lot of attack by politicians and media. So I support them in legitimizing their product and jumping in bed with the rest of us. In the end we are all on the same team. Team Browning, Ruger, Why, Rem, AR and so on. Good for them and I'll laugh if I see one but will be glad someone has made a connection with our hunting and shooting heritage with adequate caliber for hunting and not a pee shooter.