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May 24, 2012

Nonsense Product Names: WEN Will it All End?

By David E. Petzal

Well, there I was sitting at the old Mac, trying to work instead of listening to bluegrass, when I got a press release announcing that Redfield now has a scope out called the “Revenge.” I thought this was a pretty odd name to give an optical sight, but then I remembered that last year, Winchester came out with an all-copper bullet called Power Core, which has no core, so I guess the rules about product names have been relaxed.

But then, just a moment ago, I received word of a new crossbow called the Barnett Vengeance. Vengeance on what? The last time a crossbow was used in an act of vengeance was on March 25, 1199 when Richard the Lionheart, King of England, was killed by crossbow bolt to the neck that was fired by a French boy who claimed that Richard had killed his father and brothers.

Will we now see bumper stickers that read “Payback is a bodkin head?” or “That bolt from the blue is meant for you.”? Will we have to listen to Rachel Maddow screeching about crossbows you can sneak past metal detectors?

As if this weren’t bad enough, there now are ads running on the various cable channels I watch for a shampoo called WEN. I don’t know what marketing genius thought this one up, but “wen” is an archaic English word for a cyst, usually on the neck or face, as in “Will you look at the wen on King Richard’s neck? That thing’s big enough to hit with a crossbow bolt.”

On the other hand, maybe I should just listen to bluegrass more.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

911

MUST READ!

To all 270 shooters using factory ammunition!

cheaperthandirt.com/blog/?p=22277

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from dovebuster wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Dave, don't you know according to some we are at war with the whole deer and hog population on the planet! The new buzz is everyone has to own a Zombie gun and Zombie bullets, live in a celler and required to have stored at least 365 cans of sardines at any given time.

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from CJ wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Why would you shoot 150 grain .270 Win anyway. Just a slow .30-06

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from CL3 wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Saw that crap in my shower recently... then it was gone. My wife said it burned her scalp and smelled funny.

And yes dovebuster, the zombie BS... What. The. Eff? I don't get it...

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from Clay Cooper wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

You forgot David to add this,

(head bangs keyboard)

I remember when the first 3x9 Redfield Widefield hit the market. In fact, it had a release date not to be up on the shelves yet, but my Farther acquired several (6+)for about 50 bucks a peace. Back then the name meant something, but now?

Chevy Yukon to take on the Yukon?

Ford Explorer or should I say Ford Exploder as is breaks the asphalt!

Kinda reminds me of City & Town names in Pennsylvania like Middlesex. I really believe a couple of Librarians got drunk one night playing scrabble who came up with these names!

Some of the names parents give there kids is bad enough.

thechive.com/2010/06/25/parents-can-be-cruel-to-their-kids-and-hilarious-20-photos/

What has infiltrated the coveted ranks of the Sports community? Got to really wonder!

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from Happy Myles wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Well, maybe Redfield's new scope is so super they named it "Revenge" getting even for going bankrupt. Listening to bluegrass is not that all bad... You can be sittin and picken, and I'll be sittin and breakin wen.

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from MReeder wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Personally, I'm tired of seeing the word "tactical" slapped on virtually every piece of shooting and hunting paraphanalia. It would be one thing if its use was actually limited to things employed only in a military or law enforcement situation, but you can't buy a flashlight or a long sleeve shirt anymore that doesn't have "tactical" in the description.
Unless somebody can show me how shooting a turkey or a deer or a duck is going to determine the outcome of a battle there's no reason to slap a tactical label on the equipment -- much less the clothing -- you use in the field.

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from Oryx wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

They're coming out with the Vengeance II this fall. Makes the original Vengeance obsolete and effeminate, and will be the hands-down ultimate in crossbow power and grace. (Until the Vengeance Extreme comes out in the spring.)

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from Dcast wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

I think someone replace my shampoo with wen, I woke up this morning with two large bumps on my head that hurt like lleh, I'm not joking either! How fitting is to find out wen is a cyst applying hair product or at least the old english translation of which!

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from Bob81 wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

I think MReeder touched on it. If the products coming to market (and the hunting videos for that matter) are any indication, there seem to be a lot of jackasses running around the woods living out some sort of Rambo fantasy.

I suppose a crossbow called "The Vengeance", or an AR-15 with tactical mounts, red dot scope and collapsible stock help make them feel more EXTREMMMEEE!!!!

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from Oryx wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Clay, according to Wikipedia, Middlesex is a county in England. The term comes from "Middle Saxons." Apparently, "Sex" is the Plural of "Saxons", which may explain why you often see alto and baritone sax players traveling in pairs on the way to the local singles bar.

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from 99explorer wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

When GM came up with the name "Impact" for a vehicle in 1990, Jay Leno questioned their judgment. He asked, "Was the name 'flaming ball of death' already taken?"

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from jay wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

The Tacti-Cool craze cannot come to an end fast enough.

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from buckhunter wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

I love bluegrass music. They don't play enough of it on the radio.

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from Douglas wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Nice rant. I share disgust with stupid product names. Along with rancor for the packaging industry that cannot keep it simple.
Speaking of all copper bullets, when will there be a blog on "new green grass fed free range non-toxic" rifle bullets? I truly am curious on the performance of those.

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from davidpetzal wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

"You can train someone into being a super musician, but you can't teach them soul. They've got to have that."--John Duffey, the greatest Bluegrass tenor of them all.

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from Ontario Honker ... wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Well, sad to say, the booby prize for a stupid product name goes to ... of all things ... the current reigning political party up here in Canada. Yep. A few years back, after years of fiddling around and wrangling and threats of unification, the Progressive Reform Party and the Conservative Party finally did throw their lot in together and formed a new political party. Hold onto your hats folks: the name selected was Conservative Reform Alliance Party. And yes, the name actually stuck for the better part of a week before some pundit finally did the acronym math! Baahaahaa! Well, one could hardly expect that an alliance between Conservatives and Progressives could be anything but CRAP! The new name quickly selected was the Progressive Conservative Party. Well, that is an oxymoron if there ever was one! But at least it doesn't sound like sh*t! Needless to say, it's been a long time since I have heard them referred to as anything but Conservatives or the PC Party. The "Progressive" aspect has kinda evaporated.

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from Mark-1 wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

"If you can't make a better pickle, you make a better pickle jar".

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from spuddog wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

As my boss used to tell me, "there you go being logical again".

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from 99explorer wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

The U.S. Navy had a torpedo bomber named the Grumman Avenger during World War Two that saw action in the Pacific. But that plane had something to avenge.

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from PbHead wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Dave, Madison Avenue is just like Hollywood. After 100 years it is hard to come up with something new.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

CNN: Steve Martin: Bluegrass over comedy?

www.bing.com/videos/search?q=steve+martin+bluegrass+band&view=detail&mid...

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from RJ Arena wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Am I missing something on this thread? everyone seems to have a short attention span, like we are all dogs and someone yells"squirrel!"

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from Carney wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

The name "Infiniti" for a car has always troubled me...

I prefer Zydeco to Bluegrass. Hands down.

After being out of town for a week and a half my WW2 buddy Dave, saw me coming down the hall and said, "Well, here he comes, lookin' like he's full of piss and vinegar!" I think that would make a good name for dietary supplements.

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from kaanimal wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Squirrel! Where?!?!?
MReeder: does this mean us hunters will need to go "tactical" to counter the tactical crowd in the woods?

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from O Garcia wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

There's the silly name of the professional basketball team of Washington D.C., the former Washington Bullets. Now they're called Wizards, bowing to political correctness.

The way they're losing games, they're not wizards either, they're better off being named after the whipping boys of the Harlem Globetrotters.

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from MReeder wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

To kaanimal;
I sure hope I don't have to adopt new tactics. I kind of like the ones I've already worked out. I find a nice comfortable place to sit and watch a trail, crack open a book and slowly nod off to sleep, depending on the uncanny sixth sense I've developed after decades in the woods to wake me when something furry or feathery walks by. The last thing I need is some idiot in a black tactical vest with a tactical rifle and tactical scope whooping and hollering and waking me up...

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from nc30-06 wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Dave, I have to agree. Product names have be getting weirder and weirder. Biggest offenders though are the car names. How about Prius (what the heck is a "Prius"?), or Tribeca, Soul, Scion, Fiesta, etc. Those names sound like liberal gobbledy-gook. Nothing like the names in the past like Trans Am, Mustang, Sting Ray, Barracuda, names of cars that you would be proud to own.
Heaven help us when there is a shotgun named Puff the Magic Pheasant Popper or a rifle named Hunter's Buddy.

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from deadeyedick wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Thanks alot, Dave. You got me in trouble with that wen thingy. It seems that my wife has had a wen on her butt for years and she has been contemplating getting it removed. After reading your rant I decided that I would take my croosbow and remove it for free. She told me I was crazy and I was NOT going to shoot her WEN off. LOL
On the more serious side, the one that gets me is NEW AND IMPROVED. I swear, more americans went into bankruptcy because of those three words Just last week They got me. I was out at the local store to buy some some .22 ammo and lo and behold there it was NEW AND IMPROVED. Sure they cost more. I took them to the range and did not see any new and improved performance.
Vengeance is mine sayeth the LORD so I guess that crossbow is for GOD

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from Ontario Honker ... wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Nc3, at least "Puff" is a name, sort of. Seems all the gun names today have to be numbers and letters. What the heck is the sense in that? Back in the old days the number at least alluded to the year of the patent or when the gun was introduced. What is 700-BDL supposed to mean? Borderline DeLuxe? At least a name that means ANYTHING might stick in my head a bit better. Like Wingmaster. Okay, that had some kind of point of reference related to hunting. Seems like when the gun folks actually do decide to slap a name on something it doesn't mean anything. For example there's Browning Citori introduced in 1973. According to Wikipedia, the name has "no meaning and is [just] an advertising construct." What the heck is it supposed to "advertise"? A gunmaker that specializes in meaningless thought patterns? So today's geeky Japanese car marketers are just following the precedent set forty years ago by Belgian gunmakers? Man, that's shameful.

Washington D.C. Wizards? Wow, how appropriate! A lot of magic wand waving goes on in that city! The center of the smoke-and-mirrors universe! Har, har.

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from shane256 wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

The zombie thing is just a popular type of horror movie/situation. The use of "zombie" is a stand-in for any massive, eventually unwinnable/unrecoverable, catastrophic event. The thing about the zombie horde is that each zombie isn't that big of a deal but they just keep coming and coming and coming with no end. It's a hopeless situation because you *will* eventually fail... run out of ammo/weapons, or whatever, but you will eventually fall from exhaustion, lack of sleep, etc. It's just a construct to give a long-term hopeless situation. You can win small battles here and there but eventually you will lose.

Personally, I'm not a big fan of zombies either but it's just one of those things... back in the 70s/80s people liked to dress up in country/western gear because of "Urban Cowboy" /shrug

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from Scott Jones wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Given that marketing is idiotic, look who they're marketing to. God help us, they do this because it works.

All the tacti-cool BS aside, there is nothing like thousands of troops living with equipment to work out what's good and what ain't.

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from CJ wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

OHH

BDL translates to B-grade DeLuxe. ADL is one grade lower A-grade DeLuxe. A CDL is a Classic Deluxe. No sillier than your Chevy Blazer. Has it caught fire yet?

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from Ontario Honker ... wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

I own a GMC Jimmy, not a Blazer. It's a great rig to help those of us who are trying to become "a real boy." Now, why is an ADL one step below a BDL? What the ...? And where does the "Classic De Luxe" fit into the picture? At the bottom or the top? Why? Sheesh! Sometimes I think no one can get an MBA in marketing without having a frontal lobotomy first. The point was well-made above: the consuming public seems to have half a brain so who else but a half-wit could be better suited for getting their money?

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from Carl Huber wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

This is nothing new marketing has always played on the sub conscience and the not so conscience. I mentioned this with the fairy tale rounds 50 Beowulf [wolf killer] and 6.5 Grinddel [bone grinder]. We all should have known something was up when "Jumbo Shrimp" hit the market and what is the difference between jumbo and colossal olives. Also how much of a deal does your brain really tell you is $9.99 or ten dollars. It's more than a penny. Of course the fins on Dad's 50's Cadillac did add a little to the miles per hour. Face it if I could develop a package that would create the individual smell of your Prom Dates After Shave or Perfume. It would matter very little what I put in the box.Someday I will tell you after 50 years the taste of Spearmint gum still holds a special place in my heart. I would say just hitch up your big boy pants and be prepared to go groundhog hunting with the new and improve .17 Tom Thumb round.

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from Carl Huber wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

PS To through some real sh*t in the game some times a name means exactly what it is. A leatherman tool has nothing to do with a guy that used to work with leather. Rather an engineer named Leatherman who thought it would be a good idea to carry a lot of tools in his pocket. Then my favorite in the north east. The Outerbridge Crossing and Arthur Kill. The Outerbridge Crossing is not a remote bridge or a path around a bridge over Arthur Kill. It's a bridge named after Eugene Harvey Outerbridge . The first chairman to the Port Authority of New York. And nobody name Author was ever Killed there. Kill is Dutch for river. As a side note a bunch of tree huggers want to change the name of their town from Fish Kill to Fish Save. No lie.

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from 1uglymutha wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

dep: fun read as always. when a person lives in a time where every new gun product is named "zombie" something-or-another, i guess anything is possible. strawberry fields forever?

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from Longbeard wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

How about MSR's? If the term refers to "Modular Sniper Rifle" then it makes some sense, but it has come to be "Modern Sporting Rifle"...what the heck is that? I mean, everybody reading this blog knows what it is, but a lot of long gun users would look at those letters and say "huh?" There has to be a better, more descriptive term we could come up with.

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from hutter wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

I think I'll start a new magazine, Pasture and Crick

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from CJ wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

OH

Your ignorance of 'America's Oldest Gunmaker' is showing.

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from Carl Huber wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Reminds me of the old story why the Chevy Nova didn't sell well in Mexico. I wasn't till someone told the Anglos that Nova means No Go in Spanish.

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from DSMbirddog wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Carl Huber I believe they mean well with the renaming. Seriously they must be idiots. I like these little tidbits about people doing foolish things and wasting everyone's time.

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from Beekeeper wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Dave,

The next time you are in GA or SC drop me an email. I'll hook you up with the genuine article played live for your listening pleasure in the Blueridge Mountains by some of the best Bluegrass musicians still around.

As for the in your face ad names. It seems that getting the attention of the 20 and 30 somethings out there these days is dependent on a product name being "bad axx" I guess the Redfield label gives the youth element at Leupold and avenue to let their WEN covered hair down.

Carl Huber: Nova into Spanish is nuevo meaning "New". No va can be translated as "doesn't go" but Nova and No va are two entirely different unrelated entities in the Spanish language

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from Nyflyangler wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Petzal uses a Mac. That explains so much. Only whiny little bitches use Macs.

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from Nyflyangler wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

I always thought about creating an old age facility that advertises it beats it's inmates would be a gold mine. Call it Revenge Retirement.

'Remember back in May of 1972 when you wouldn't let your kid keep the dog that followed him home from the park.

And you told him to stop crying or you'd give him a reason to cry? Well, it's backback time. Here's five across the eyes.

SMACK!!!!

Now YOU have a reason to cry old man.'

It'd be a gold mine. ;-)

Clay Cooper wrote:

"Some of the names parents give there kids is bad enough.

thechive.com/2010/06/25/parents-can-be-cruel-to-their-kids-and-hilarious-20-photos/

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Beekeeper,

Nyflyangler clearly illustrates the point we were discussing earlier.

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from 007 wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Wam and Bee, I was going to say the same thing. Guess great minds think alike.

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from Beekeeper wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Hey Fly Angler,

Beware of old men. They didn't get that way be being stupid. That five across the face might result in two rolling around on the floor.

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from Carl Huber wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Thanks Bee good to have you back. Still wouldn't buy a Chevy that doesn't go.

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from Carl Huber wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Plus 1 Bee better to be over the hill. Than never have seen the hill.

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from Beekeeper wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Amen Carl!

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from Carney wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

NY Fly,
Most kids have grown up and gotten over that stuff. People who haven't probably don't have the money to put their parents into any kind of retirement center.

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from country road wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

When it comes to giving reasonable names to products, I think Emerson hit the nail on the head when he said, "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds--".

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from Safado wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Nyflyangler,
I'm with Beekeeper. Respect your elders and you might grow up to be one!

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from Tim Platt wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Breakin wen with a crossbow bolt. You guys tear me up. My AR is called a Light Saber, you know that weapon of choice for the Star Wars geeks. At least it is an apt description, the lightest AR made by Sabre.

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from RockySquirrel wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Now that we are trashing marketers: What the HELL is a SNOOKI and why should I care? And Why would anyone want to keep up with Kardasians? Who gives a flying.....

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from 99explorer wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

The Brooklyn Dodgers were originally known as "The Bridegrooms," and then "The Trolley Dodgers," and I believe the Boston Red Sox were once known a "The Boston Beaneaters."

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from Ontario Honker ... wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

CJ, you are correct. Give the man a cigar! Citori was made in Japan not Belgium. Maybe that helps explain the Citori to Prius product nonsense-name tradition more clearly. Pick a name that is meaningless in both languages. Hmmm. Maybe those little guys over there aren't so dumb after all.

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from Sanjuancb wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

I'm with you Dave. Chances are that any product deemed the Marauder/Mutilator/Executioner/Impaler/etc isn't classy enough to be in my weapons cache. Time to get back to the Del McCoury Band...

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from Ralph the Rifleman wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Dave, I firmly believe that advertising is geared for the semi-illiterate, you sir; are too educated for them.
Bluegrass, you say? Are you a gee-tar player, too, by chance?

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from davidpetzal wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

To Ralph: I played guitar and mandolin for 40 plus years. I was a pretty good Travis picker, and decent flatpicker, but not much on the mandolin. Had to give them both up a while back on account of deafness and arthritis.

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from Ralph the Rifleman wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

I can relate, Dave; Getting old sucks...my string pickin` days are coming to an end, too..

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from Fat guy Aaron wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

David, you forgot to mention, Horniday zombie max, the Taurus Judge, it's smaller cohort, the public Defender, and the Savage Edge.

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from 99explorer wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Colt once made a gun in its 'snake' line of revolvers called "The Viper." It reminded me of toilet paper.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

A few of my (un)favorites: Hornady Zombie max, Savage Axis/Edge, Marlin XL7, Winchester Black Shadow, Super Black Eagle, Rem. Golden Sabre, Power Core (which is monolithic), T/C Contender (for what?), Venture, Viper, Prius, Altima, Accord, Camry, etc. Wonder when KIA is coming out with the new DOA?

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from O Garcia wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Glock pistols are the either the best or worst named. You have a number, and it's specific as to caliber and frame size.
17= 9mm full size
19= 9mm compact
21= 45ACP full size
30= 45ACP compact
36= 45ACP single stack

and you have Glock 18, same size as G17, but law enforcement or military only, 9mm full automatic "machine pistol"

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from JamesD wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Sometimes as silly as it sounds it works, Colt "peacemaker" Shakespeare "ugly stik". Product advertising often reflects the general attitudes of an era. Since 911 it's been all about payback. After reading different articles on hunting and fishing the words method or technique have been replaced by the words tactic or tactical and many products are not just products they're now systems. Even the term "assault weapon" has become passe, now the term is "tactical rifle" and that shotgun with a folding stock and light on it is a "home defense system".

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

A "home defense system" must contain more than one entity to be a system. A system is two dawgs, one to bark and alert the perp, big dawg, and homeowner and the big black one to attack and bite his ass and a autoloading shotgun to take out the trash. THAT is a system.

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from Happy Myles wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Well, maybe Redfield's new scope is so super they named it "Revenge" getting even for going bankrupt. Listening to bluegrass is not that all bad... You can be sittin and picken, and I'll be sittin and breakin wen.

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from MReeder wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Personally, I'm tired of seeing the word "tactical" slapped on virtually every piece of shooting and hunting paraphanalia. It would be one thing if its use was actually limited to things employed only in a military or law enforcement situation, but you can't buy a flashlight or a long sleeve shirt anymore that doesn't have "tactical" in the description.
Unless somebody can show me how shooting a turkey or a deer or a duck is going to determine the outcome of a battle there's no reason to slap a tactical label on the equipment -- much less the clothing -- you use in the field.

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from Beekeeper wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Hey Fly Angler,

Beware of old men. They didn't get that way be being stupid. That five across the face might result in two rolling around on the floor.

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from jay wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

The Tacti-Cool craze cannot come to an end fast enough.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Beekeeper,

Nyflyangler clearly illustrates the point we were discussing earlier.

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from dovebuster wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Dave, don't you know according to some we are at war with the whole deer and hog population on the planet! The new buzz is everyone has to own a Zombie gun and Zombie bullets, live in a celler and required to have stored at least 365 cans of sardines at any given time.

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from 99explorer wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

When GM came up with the name "Impact" for a vehicle in 1990, Jay Leno questioned their judgment. He asked, "Was the name 'flaming ball of death' already taken?"

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from Ontario Honker ... wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Well, sad to say, the booby prize for a stupid product name goes to ... of all things ... the current reigning political party up here in Canada. Yep. A few years back, after years of fiddling around and wrangling and threats of unification, the Progressive Reform Party and the Conservative Party finally did throw their lot in together and formed a new political party. Hold onto your hats folks: the name selected was Conservative Reform Alliance Party. And yes, the name actually stuck for the better part of a week before some pundit finally did the acronym math! Baahaahaa! Well, one could hardly expect that an alliance between Conservatives and Progressives could be anything but CRAP! The new name quickly selected was the Progressive Conservative Party. Well, that is an oxymoron if there ever was one! But at least it doesn't sound like sh*t! Needless to say, it's been a long time since I have heard them referred to as anything but Conservatives or the PC Party. The "Progressive" aspect has kinda evaporated.

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from 007 wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Wam and Bee, I was going to say the same thing. Guess great minds think alike.

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from Carney wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

NY Fly,
Most kids have grown up and gotten over that stuff. People who haven't probably don't have the money to put their parents into any kind of retirement center.

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from Safado wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Nyflyangler,
I'm with Beekeeper. Respect your elders and you might grow up to be one!

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from Bob81 wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

I think MReeder touched on it. If the products coming to market (and the hunting videos for that matter) are any indication, there seem to be a lot of jackasses running around the woods living out some sort of Rambo fantasy.

I suppose a crossbow called "The Vengeance", or an AR-15 with tactical mounts, red dot scope and collapsible stock help make them feel more EXTREMMMEEE!!!!

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from Oryx wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Clay, according to Wikipedia, Middlesex is a county in England. The term comes from "Middle Saxons." Apparently, "Sex" is the Plural of "Saxons", which may explain why you often see alto and baritone sax players traveling in pairs on the way to the local singles bar.

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from buckhunter wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

I love bluegrass music. They don't play enough of it on the radio.

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from davidpetzal wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

"You can train someone into being a super musician, but you can't teach them soul. They've got to have that."--John Duffey, the greatest Bluegrass tenor of them all.

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from Carney wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

The name "Infiniti" for a car has always troubled me...

I prefer Zydeco to Bluegrass. Hands down.

After being out of town for a week and a half my WW2 buddy Dave, saw me coming down the hall and said, "Well, here he comes, lookin' like he's full of piss and vinegar!" I think that would make a good name for dietary supplements.

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from MReeder wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

To kaanimal;
I sure hope I don't have to adopt new tactics. I kind of like the ones I've already worked out. I find a nice comfortable place to sit and watch a trail, crack open a book and slowly nod off to sleep, depending on the uncanny sixth sense I've developed after decades in the woods to wake me when something furry or feathery walks by. The last thing I need is some idiot in a black tactical vest with a tactical rifle and tactical scope whooping and hollering and waking me up...

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from Scott Jones wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Given that marketing is idiotic, look who they're marketing to. God help us, they do this because it works.

All the tacti-cool BS aside, there is nothing like thousands of troops living with equipment to work out what's good and what ain't.

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from Carl Huber wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

This is nothing new marketing has always played on the sub conscience and the not so conscience. I mentioned this with the fairy tale rounds 50 Beowulf [wolf killer] and 6.5 Grinddel [bone grinder]. We all should have known something was up when "Jumbo Shrimp" hit the market and what is the difference between jumbo and colossal olives. Also how much of a deal does your brain really tell you is $9.99 or ten dollars. It's more than a penny. Of course the fins on Dad's 50's Cadillac did add a little to the miles per hour. Face it if I could develop a package that would create the individual smell of your Prom Dates After Shave or Perfume. It would matter very little what I put in the box.Someday I will tell you after 50 years the taste of Spearmint gum still holds a special place in my heart. I would say just hitch up your big boy pants and be prepared to go groundhog hunting with the new and improve .17 Tom Thumb round.

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from Carl Huber wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

PS To through some real sh*t in the game some times a name means exactly what it is. A leatherman tool has nothing to do with a guy that used to work with leather. Rather an engineer named Leatherman who thought it would be a good idea to carry a lot of tools in his pocket. Then my favorite in the north east. The Outerbridge Crossing and Arthur Kill. The Outerbridge Crossing is not a remote bridge or a path around a bridge over Arthur Kill. It's a bridge named after Eugene Harvey Outerbridge . The first chairman to the Port Authority of New York. And nobody name Author was ever Killed there. Kill is Dutch for river. As a side note a bunch of tree huggers want to change the name of their town from Fish Kill to Fish Save. No lie.

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from hutter wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

I think I'll start a new magazine, Pasture and Crick

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from CJ wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

OH

Your ignorance of 'America's Oldest Gunmaker' is showing.

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from Beekeeper wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Dave,

The next time you are in GA or SC drop me an email. I'll hook you up with the genuine article played live for your listening pleasure in the Blueridge Mountains by some of the best Bluegrass musicians still around.

As for the in your face ad names. It seems that getting the attention of the 20 and 30 somethings out there these days is dependent on a product name being "bad axx" I guess the Redfield label gives the youth element at Leupold and avenue to let their WEN covered hair down.

Carl Huber: Nova into Spanish is nuevo meaning "New". No va can be translated as "doesn't go" but Nova and No va are two entirely different unrelated entities in the Spanish language

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from RockySquirrel wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Now that we are trashing marketers: What the HELL is a SNOOKI and why should I care? And Why would anyone want to keep up with Kardasians? Who gives a flying.....

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from Ralph the Rifleman wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Dave, I firmly believe that advertising is geared for the semi-illiterate, you sir; are too educated for them.
Bluegrass, you say? Are you a gee-tar player, too, by chance?

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from davidpetzal wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

To Ralph: I played guitar and mandolin for 40 plus years. I was a pretty good Travis picker, and decent flatpicker, but not much on the mandolin. Had to give them both up a while back on account of deafness and arthritis.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

A few of my (un)favorites: Hornady Zombie max, Savage Axis/Edge, Marlin XL7, Winchester Black Shadow, Super Black Eagle, Rem. Golden Sabre, Power Core (which is monolithic), T/C Contender (for what?), Venture, Viper, Prius, Altima, Accord, Camry, etc. Wonder when KIA is coming out with the new DOA?

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from CL3 wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Saw that crap in my shower recently... then it was gone. My wife said it burned her scalp and smelled funny.

And yes dovebuster, the zombie BS... What. The. Eff? I don't get it...

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from Clay Cooper wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

You forgot David to add this,

(head bangs keyboard)

I remember when the first 3x9 Redfield Widefield hit the market. In fact, it had a release date not to be up on the shelves yet, but my Farther acquired several (6+)for about 50 bucks a peace. Back then the name meant something, but now?

Chevy Yukon to take on the Yukon?

Ford Explorer or should I say Ford Exploder as is breaks the asphalt!

Kinda reminds me of City & Town names in Pennsylvania like Middlesex. I really believe a couple of Librarians got drunk one night playing scrabble who came up with these names!

Some of the names parents give there kids is bad enough.

thechive.com/2010/06/25/parents-can-be-cruel-to-their-kids-and-hilarious-20-photos/

What has infiltrated the coveted ranks of the Sports community? Got to really wonder!

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from Oryx wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

They're coming out with the Vengeance II this fall. Makes the original Vengeance obsolete and effeminate, and will be the hands-down ultimate in crossbow power and grace. (Until the Vengeance Extreme comes out in the spring.)

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from Dcast wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

I think someone replace my shampoo with wen, I woke up this morning with two large bumps on my head that hurt like lleh, I'm not joking either! How fitting is to find out wen is a cyst applying hair product or at least the old english translation of which!

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from Douglas wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Nice rant. I share disgust with stupid product names. Along with rancor for the packaging industry that cannot keep it simple.
Speaking of all copper bullets, when will there be a blog on "new green grass fed free range non-toxic" rifle bullets? I truly am curious on the performance of those.

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from Mark-1 wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

"If you can't make a better pickle, you make a better pickle jar".

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from spuddog wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

As my boss used to tell me, "there you go being logical again".

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from 99explorer wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

The U.S. Navy had a torpedo bomber named the Grumman Avenger during World War Two that saw action in the Pacific. But that plane had something to avenge.

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from PbHead wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Dave, Madison Avenue is just like Hollywood. After 100 years it is hard to come up with something new.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

CNN: Steve Martin: Bluegrass over comedy?

www.bing.com/videos/search?q=steve+martin+bluegrass+band&view=detail&mid...

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from RJ Arena wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Am I missing something on this thread? everyone seems to have a short attention span, like we are all dogs and someone yells"squirrel!"

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from kaanimal wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Squirrel! Where?!?!?
MReeder: does this mean us hunters will need to go "tactical" to counter the tactical crowd in the woods?

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from O Garcia wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

There's the silly name of the professional basketball team of Washington D.C., the former Washington Bullets. Now they're called Wizards, bowing to political correctness.

The way they're losing games, they're not wizards either, they're better off being named after the whipping boys of the Harlem Globetrotters.

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from nc30-06 wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Dave, I have to agree. Product names have be getting weirder and weirder. Biggest offenders though are the car names. How about Prius (what the heck is a "Prius"?), or Tribeca, Soul, Scion, Fiesta, etc. Those names sound like liberal gobbledy-gook. Nothing like the names in the past like Trans Am, Mustang, Sting Ray, Barracuda, names of cars that you would be proud to own.
Heaven help us when there is a shotgun named Puff the Magic Pheasant Popper or a rifle named Hunter's Buddy.

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from deadeyedick wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Thanks alot, Dave. You got me in trouble with that wen thingy. It seems that my wife has had a wen on her butt for years and she has been contemplating getting it removed. After reading your rant I decided that I would take my croosbow and remove it for free. She told me I was crazy and I was NOT going to shoot her WEN off. LOL
On the more serious side, the one that gets me is NEW AND IMPROVED. I swear, more americans went into bankruptcy because of those three words Just last week They got me. I was out at the local store to buy some some .22 ammo and lo and behold there it was NEW AND IMPROVED. Sure they cost more. I took them to the range and did not see any new and improved performance.
Vengeance is mine sayeth the LORD so I guess that crossbow is for GOD

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from Ontario Honker ... wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Nc3, at least "Puff" is a name, sort of. Seems all the gun names today have to be numbers and letters. What the heck is the sense in that? Back in the old days the number at least alluded to the year of the patent or when the gun was introduced. What is 700-BDL supposed to mean? Borderline DeLuxe? At least a name that means ANYTHING might stick in my head a bit better. Like Wingmaster. Okay, that had some kind of point of reference related to hunting. Seems like when the gun folks actually do decide to slap a name on something it doesn't mean anything. For example there's Browning Citori introduced in 1973. According to Wikipedia, the name has "no meaning and is [just] an advertising construct." What the heck is it supposed to "advertise"? A gunmaker that specializes in meaningless thought patterns? So today's geeky Japanese car marketers are just following the precedent set forty years ago by Belgian gunmakers? Man, that's shameful.

Washington D.C. Wizards? Wow, how appropriate! A lot of magic wand waving goes on in that city! The center of the smoke-and-mirrors universe! Har, har.

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from shane256 wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

The zombie thing is just a popular type of horror movie/situation. The use of "zombie" is a stand-in for any massive, eventually unwinnable/unrecoverable, catastrophic event. The thing about the zombie horde is that each zombie isn't that big of a deal but they just keep coming and coming and coming with no end. It's a hopeless situation because you *will* eventually fail... run out of ammo/weapons, or whatever, but you will eventually fall from exhaustion, lack of sleep, etc. It's just a construct to give a long-term hopeless situation. You can win small battles here and there but eventually you will lose.

Personally, I'm not a big fan of zombies either but it's just one of those things... back in the 70s/80s people liked to dress up in country/western gear because of "Urban Cowboy" /shrug

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from CJ wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

OHH

BDL translates to B-grade DeLuxe. ADL is one grade lower A-grade DeLuxe. A CDL is a Classic Deluxe. No sillier than your Chevy Blazer. Has it caught fire yet?

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from Ontario Honker ... wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

I own a GMC Jimmy, not a Blazer. It's a great rig to help those of us who are trying to become "a real boy." Now, why is an ADL one step below a BDL? What the ...? And where does the "Classic De Luxe" fit into the picture? At the bottom or the top? Why? Sheesh! Sometimes I think no one can get an MBA in marketing without having a frontal lobotomy first. The point was well-made above: the consuming public seems to have half a brain so who else but a half-wit could be better suited for getting their money?

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from 1uglymutha wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

dep: fun read as always. when a person lives in a time where every new gun product is named "zombie" something-or-another, i guess anything is possible. strawberry fields forever?

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from Longbeard wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

How about MSR's? If the term refers to "Modular Sniper Rifle" then it makes some sense, but it has come to be "Modern Sporting Rifle"...what the heck is that? I mean, everybody reading this blog knows what it is, but a lot of long gun users would look at those letters and say "huh?" There has to be a better, more descriptive term we could come up with.

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from Carl Huber wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Reminds me of the old story why the Chevy Nova didn't sell well in Mexico. I wasn't till someone told the Anglos that Nova means No Go in Spanish.

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from DSMbirddog wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Carl Huber I believe they mean well with the renaming. Seriously they must be idiots. I like these little tidbits about people doing foolish things and wasting everyone's time.

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from Carl Huber wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Thanks Bee good to have you back. Still wouldn't buy a Chevy that doesn't go.

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from Carl Huber wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Plus 1 Bee better to be over the hill. Than never have seen the hill.

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from Beekeeper wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Amen Carl!

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from country road wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

When it comes to giving reasonable names to products, I think Emerson hit the nail on the head when he said, "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds--".

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from Tim Platt wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Breakin wen with a crossbow bolt. You guys tear me up. My AR is called a Light Saber, you know that weapon of choice for the Star Wars geeks. At least it is an apt description, the lightest AR made by Sabre.

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from 99explorer wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

The Brooklyn Dodgers were originally known as "The Bridegrooms," and then "The Trolley Dodgers," and I believe the Boston Red Sox were once known a "The Boston Beaneaters."

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from Ontario Honker ... wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

CJ, you are correct. Give the man a cigar! Citori was made in Japan not Belgium. Maybe that helps explain the Citori to Prius product nonsense-name tradition more clearly. Pick a name that is meaningless in both languages. Hmmm. Maybe those little guys over there aren't so dumb after all.

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from Sanjuancb wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

I'm with you Dave. Chances are that any product deemed the Marauder/Mutilator/Executioner/Impaler/etc isn't classy enough to be in my weapons cache. Time to get back to the Del McCoury Band...

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from Ralph the Rifleman wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

I can relate, Dave; Getting old sucks...my string pickin` days are coming to an end, too..

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from Fat guy Aaron wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

David, you forgot to mention, Horniday zombie max, the Taurus Judge, it's smaller cohort, the public Defender, and the Savage Edge.

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from 99explorer wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Colt once made a gun in its 'snake' line of revolvers called "The Viper." It reminded me of toilet paper.

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from O Garcia wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Glock pistols are the either the best or worst named. You have a number, and it's specific as to caliber and frame size.
17= 9mm full size
19= 9mm compact
21= 45ACP full size
30= 45ACP compact
36= 45ACP single stack

and you have Glock 18, same size as G17, but law enforcement or military only, 9mm full automatic "machine pistol"

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from JamesD wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Sometimes as silly as it sounds it works, Colt "peacemaker" Shakespeare "ugly stik". Product advertising often reflects the general attitudes of an era. Since 911 it's been all about payback. After reading different articles on hunting and fishing the words method or technique have been replaced by the words tactic or tactical and many products are not just products they're now systems. Even the term "assault weapon" has become passe, now the term is "tactical rifle" and that shotgun with a folding stock and light on it is a "home defense system".

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

A "home defense system" must contain more than one entity to be a system. A system is two dawgs, one to bark and alert the perp, big dawg, and homeowner and the big black one to attack and bite his ass and a autoloading shotgun to take out the trash. THAT is a system.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

911

MUST READ!

To all 270 shooters using factory ammunition!

cheaperthandirt.com/blog/?p=22277

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from CJ wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Why would you shoot 150 grain .270 Win anyway. Just a slow .30-06

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from Nyflyangler wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Petzal uses a Mac. That explains so much. Only whiny little bitches use Macs.

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from Nyflyangler wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

I always thought about creating an old age facility that advertises it beats it's inmates would be a gold mine. Call it Revenge Retirement.

'Remember back in May of 1972 when you wouldn't let your kid keep the dog that followed him home from the park.

And you told him to stop crying or you'd give him a reason to cry? Well, it's backback time. Here's five across the eyes.

SMACK!!!!

Now YOU have a reason to cry old man.'

It'd be a gold mine. ;-)

Clay Cooper wrote:

"Some of the names parents give there kids is bad enough.

thechive.com/2010/06/25/parents-can-be-cruel-to-their-kids-and-hilarious-20-photos/

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