



July 11, 2012
Slugging it Out: What to Feed Your Rifled Shotgun
By Phil Bourjaily
Slug Week continues. Today’s topic: hybrid slugs, a category comprised of Lightfield Hybreds, Winchester Rackmasters, various Brenneke* offerings and Remington Buckhammers. These slugs are all fullbore slugs with attached wads designed to shoot well in rifled barrels.
Idduckhunter asked about Rackmasters, which look like an old-style Foster slug with a wad attached to it. The year they came out, Winchester had a bunch of them at the pre-SHOT Show shooting day along with scoped Browning Gold rifled slug guns sitting in Lead Sleds. There were wooden frames set up at 100 yards with a variety of things to shoot on them: hanging bowling pins and plastic water bottles and some golf balls underneath them. I loaded a Rackmaster into one of the guns, put the crosshairs on a golf ball and pulled the trigger. The ball disappeared so fast I can’t tell you if I hooked it or sliced it, but I bet it went a long way. That is incredibly impressive accuracy (with a little luck mixed in) from a shotgun slug.
While most guns and attached wad slugs don’t deliver consistent minute-of-golf-ball accuracy, Remington’s Buckhammers will reliably put five shots into a little over three inches at 100 yards from a rifled barrel, as will Lightfield Lites, in my experience. The deer in the picture fell to a 20 gauge Buckhammer at 80 yards fired by my younger son, John, then a high school freshman. (The gun is an H&R Ultra Slug Hunter topped with a Bushnell Elite 3200 1.5x-4.5x scope. The Ultra Slug Hunter is a very accurate, very cheap slug gun.)
The 20 gauge Buckhammer slug weighs a full ounce, and this deer did not go far. Once you move past foster slugs into hybrids and sabots, 20s are enough for deer and lighter and less punishing to shoot than 12s. If I were buying a rifled deer gun today it would be a 20 gauge. Not everyone agrees. I once asked Randy Fritz, maker of Tar-Hunt slug guns and consultant for Lightfield, why he felt the need to offer a 3-inch, 1 3/8 ounce slug fullbore attached wad slug at 1900 fps (they have since added a 3 ½-inch slug). He said: “In some parts of the east, you may have a hunter every 70 yards. If your deer runs at all after you hit it, three more people will shoot at it and two will fight you for it. You want a slug that stops deer in their tracks.”
I can’t argue with that. Friday: sabots.
*Brennekes have been around almost as long as the print edition of Field & Stream (1898 vs. 1895). In Europe, “Brenneke” is synomous with “slug” the way “Kleenex” stands for “tissue” here. Ry Guy, they have been imported under the Rottweil name in the past. Now the website is brennekeusa.com
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I have not seen any of those rackmaster slugs here in Ohio yet but I sure do want to try them. I have been using sabots but the ones I use (SST) don't expand as they should. They are very acurate in my gun but they do not make a large wound channel and leaves little in the way of a blood trail. Perhaps another brand will work better or I am going back to lightfield lites I shot a nice buck 2 years ago those sabot slugs and it ran a long ways before there was any blood trail at all. another hunter harvested that buck. I once used the lightfield but went to the sabot for more accuracy but those lightfield slugs put a deer on the ground like it was hit with a sledge hammer. perhaps you could do aa in depth comparison of the performance of varios slugs This is great stuff, Phil, keep it coming
I have not seen any of those rackmaster slugs here in Ohio yet but I sure do want to try them. I have been using sabots but the ones I use (SST) don't expand as they should. They are very acurate in my gun but they do not make a large wound channel and leaves little in the way of a blood trail. Perhaps another brand will work better or I am going back to lightfield lites I shot a nice buck 2 years ago those sabot slugs and it ran a long ways before there was any blood trail at all. another hunter harvested that buck. I once used the lightfield but went to the sabot for more accuracy but those lightfield slugs put a deer on the ground like it was hit with a sledge hammer. perhaps you could do aa in depth comparison of the performance of varios slugs This is great stuff, Phil, keep it coming
I have a new Savage 220 slug gun which I will be using with 20 ga. Remington Accutips this fall. It will easily take out the x ring on a target at 100 yds. Previously I have used a Remington 870 in 12 ga. The Brenneke slugs worked great with the 870, dropping the deer quite nicely. Before the last two years, I used 12 ga. Buckhammers and they were brutal on both ends of the gun. I look forward to hunting with the Savage. I believe it gives me a significant advantage in accuracy over the 870.
A couple of thoughts....
The Ultra slug hunter is "inexpensive" not cheap (lol) and very accurate.
As for Lightfield slugs. They are very accurate out of most guns and every deer I've ever shot with one didn't get very far. Amazing stuff.
Probably explains why after all these years Lightfield is still around and still very popular.
so sorry about the double post. I have been expirencing technical difficulties with my pc Please forgive me
deadeyedick, join the club I think everybody has had double or triple posts at least one time before.
I still shoot the old remington sluggers but most of my shots are under 75 yards where I do my hunting in western MN. I put a Tru Glo sight on my Browning BPS stalker and it seems to do the trick. Deer tend not to go very far if you hit them with one of those slugs.
if I recall correctly, H&R Ultras also have extra-heavy barrels. The 12-ga has the outer diameter of a 10-gauge, making it, in H&R's advertising, a bull barrel. Because they're simple single shots, H&R can add extra steel on the barrel without turning the guns into unwieldy logs. They're very accurate, simple, inexpensive.
H&R's Pardner pump was also accurate in OL's test a few years back.
Savage and Browning are back with their bolt actions. The Savage now has the Accu-Trigger.
When I worked at Dicks sporting goods, all the slugs mentioned in the article sold well with good reason! The Lighfields seemed to have a very loyal following...with some of my customers making claims that they could," drop shots in a tea cup at 200 yards all day" with them.
What say you of this claim Sir Phil?
Thank you Phil. Looks like Midway carries them, and i'll be getting a few boxes soon.
Ralph -- I would believe they could hit a large tea kettle at 200 yards if they could shoot, had a solid bench rest, and the wind wasn't blowing.
Pretty soon we will be entertained by the tale of mildot slug guns scopes and dropping deer at unheard of ranges with 10 gauges necked down to .410 bore.
I have a 12 gauge Remington 11-87 smoothbore that I shoot the Federal TruBall Slugs out of with nice accuracy using an IC choke (just as described in the post earlier this week). I do have a rifled choke that came with the barrel, but I have never used it. What type of slugs would be best using a rifled choke? Is a rifled choke somewhere between a smoothbore and a fully rifled barrel in terms of performance?
i have an h&r ultra slug hunter as well but it likes the remington accutips in 20 guage. very, very accurate gun for the money. mine is paired up with a leupold 3x9x40.
When I moved to CT I shocked to find out it was a shotgun state. So having to do like romans do, i bought a shotgun. Being New to Hunting with a Shoot gun I didnt want to spend alot of money so I purchased a bought a old reliable Mossberg 500a Pump. It came with 2 barrels. 1 ported Smooth bore and 1 ported rifeld.
I took it to the range to sight it in a best a shotgun could (so I thought) with irons sights.
I was amazed with the results. I can confirm the Buck Hammer slugs in 12G will group within the size of a tennis ball at 100 yards.
I shot 2 at 50 yards and 3 at 100 yards.
All five grouped nice and tight.
I took a picture of the target to share to all the other no belivers as I once was.
@Sapper49. My brother has and 11-87 as well that is a smoothbore but he has a rifled choke tube that he uses to shoot Remington Sluggers out of. He has taken deer out to 100 yards with it and dropped them cleanly in there tracks.
I think WA Mtnhunter is on to something with the 10-.410....lol
Found this post a bit late. I picked up a Mossberg combo before rifled tubes came out, with a 28" vented bird barrel and a 24" smoothbore, no-choke slug barrel, that beats the heck out of me if I put more than 25 slugs downrange but with a 2x Weaver on top, I keep Them within a 2-1/2-3" group at 100 yards with plain old Federal one-ounce Forster slugs, so long as I clean it every 10-15 shots. That was after much trial and many errors over 3-4 years; when I got 5 groups like that I did a BAD thing; I went to Walmart(!) and bought all they had of that lot number, about 75 boxes as I recall; this was in the mid-80's so forgive the memory. I still have most of those slugs; I sight the gun in for deer every year in case anyone in the family wants to use it, as I've decided I like my .41 Mag pistol for this role better, but in that gun, that barrel, that lot number I'm a happy camper; several have fallen to it, and it's kinda fun to blast a clay bird the kids have set up for .22 targets with it now and then!
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I have not seen any of those rackmaster slugs here in Ohio yet but I sure do want to try them. I have been using sabots but the ones I use (SST) don't expand as they should. They are very acurate in my gun but they do not make a large wound channel and leaves little in the way of a blood trail. Perhaps another brand will work better or I am going back to lightfield lites I shot a nice buck 2 years ago those sabot slugs and it ran a long ways before there was any blood trail at all. another hunter harvested that buck. I once used the lightfield but went to the sabot for more accuracy but those lightfield slugs put a deer on the ground like it was hit with a sledge hammer. perhaps you could do aa in depth comparison of the performance of varios slugs This is great stuff, Phil, keep it coming
I have a new Savage 220 slug gun which I will be using with 20 ga. Remington Accutips this fall. It will easily take out the x ring on a target at 100 yds. Previously I have used a Remington 870 in 12 ga. The Brenneke slugs worked great with the 870, dropping the deer quite nicely. Before the last two years, I used 12 ga. Buckhammers and they were brutal on both ends of the gun. I look forward to hunting with the Savage. I believe it gives me a significant advantage in accuracy over the 870.
A couple of thoughts....
The Ultra slug hunter is "inexpensive" not cheap (lol) and very accurate.
As for Lightfield slugs. They are very accurate out of most guns and every deer I've ever shot with one didn't get very far. Amazing stuff.
Probably explains why after all these years Lightfield is still around and still very popular.
so sorry about the double post. I have been expirencing technical difficulties with my pc Please forgive me
Pretty soon we will be entertained by the tale of mildot slug guns scopes and dropping deer at unheard of ranges with 10 gauges necked down to .410 bore.
I have not seen any of those rackmaster slugs here in Ohio yet but I sure do want to try them. I have been using sabots but the ones I use (SST) don't expand as they should. They are very acurate in my gun but they do not make a large wound channel and leaves little in the way of a blood trail. Perhaps another brand will work better or I am going back to lightfield lites I shot a nice buck 2 years ago those sabot slugs and it ran a long ways before there was any blood trail at all. another hunter harvested that buck. I once used the lightfield but went to the sabot for more accuracy but those lightfield slugs put a deer on the ground like it was hit with a sledge hammer. perhaps you could do aa in depth comparison of the performance of varios slugs This is great stuff, Phil, keep it coming
deadeyedick, join the club I think everybody has had double or triple posts at least one time before.
I still shoot the old remington sluggers but most of my shots are under 75 yards where I do my hunting in western MN. I put a Tru Glo sight on my Browning BPS stalker and it seems to do the trick. Deer tend not to go very far if you hit them with one of those slugs.
if I recall correctly, H&R Ultras also have extra-heavy barrels. The 12-ga has the outer diameter of a 10-gauge, making it, in H&R's advertising, a bull barrel. Because they're simple single shots, H&R can add extra steel on the barrel without turning the guns into unwieldy logs. They're very accurate, simple, inexpensive.
H&R's Pardner pump was also accurate in OL's test a few years back.
Savage and Browning are back with their bolt actions. The Savage now has the Accu-Trigger.
When I worked at Dicks sporting goods, all the slugs mentioned in the article sold well with good reason! The Lighfields seemed to have a very loyal following...with some of my customers making claims that they could," drop shots in a tea cup at 200 yards all day" with them.
What say you of this claim Sir Phil?
Thank you Phil. Looks like Midway carries them, and i'll be getting a few boxes soon.
Ralph -- I would believe they could hit a large tea kettle at 200 yards if they could shoot, had a solid bench rest, and the wind wasn't blowing.
I have a 12 gauge Remington 11-87 smoothbore that I shoot the Federal TruBall Slugs out of with nice accuracy using an IC choke (just as described in the post earlier this week). I do have a rifled choke that came with the barrel, but I have never used it. What type of slugs would be best using a rifled choke? Is a rifled choke somewhere between a smoothbore and a fully rifled barrel in terms of performance?
i have an h&r ultra slug hunter as well but it likes the remington accutips in 20 guage. very, very accurate gun for the money. mine is paired up with a leupold 3x9x40.
When I moved to CT I shocked to find out it was a shotgun state. So having to do like romans do, i bought a shotgun. Being New to Hunting with a Shoot gun I didnt want to spend alot of money so I purchased a bought a old reliable Mossberg 500a Pump. It came with 2 barrels. 1 ported Smooth bore and 1 ported rifeld.
I took it to the range to sight it in a best a shotgun could (so I thought) with irons sights.
I was amazed with the results. I can confirm the Buck Hammer slugs in 12G will group within the size of a tennis ball at 100 yards.
I shot 2 at 50 yards and 3 at 100 yards.
All five grouped nice and tight.
I took a picture of the target to share to all the other no belivers as I once was.
@Sapper49. My brother has and 11-87 as well that is a smoothbore but he has a rifled choke tube that he uses to shoot Remington Sluggers out of. He has taken deer out to 100 yards with it and dropped them cleanly in there tracks.
I think WA Mtnhunter is on to something with the 10-.410....lol
Found this post a bit late. I picked up a Mossberg combo before rifled tubes came out, with a 28" vented bird barrel and a 24" smoothbore, no-choke slug barrel, that beats the heck out of me if I put more than 25 slugs downrange but with a 2x Weaver on top, I keep Them within a 2-1/2-3" group at 100 yards with plain old Federal one-ounce Forster slugs, so long as I clean it every 10-15 shots. That was after much trial and many errors over 3-4 years; when I got 5 groups like that I did a BAD thing; I went to Walmart(!) and bought all they had of that lot number, about 75 boxes as I recall; this was in the mid-80's so forgive the memory. I still have most of those slugs; I sight the gun in for deer every year in case anyone in the family wants to use it, as I've decided I like my .41 Mag pistol for this role better, but in that gun, that barrel, that lot number I'm a happy camper; several have fallen to it, and it's kinda fun to blast a clay bird the kids have set up for .22 targets with it now and then!
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