I have received a lot of very odd advice and comments, most stated as indisputable fact, from the Guy at the gun store.
Among the classics:
1. CCI Mini-Mag solids are "armour piercing" rounds.
2. There is no such thing as a .222. "Sir, it is a .223."
3. A Springfield Armory M1A is a "machine gun" and cannot be bought.
4. Only Savage makes left-handed rifles, and they are "cheap and no good."
5. There is no such thing as a .41 Remington Magnum. "it is a .44 Magnum, like Dirty Harry used."
6. 7 1/2 shot won't kill doves. It is only a trap load.
7. "A .30-'06 won't kill a deer past 300 yds."
8. Have been offered .45 ACP for .45 LC, and told "They are the same thing."
9. "You can't change the barrels in a Remington 1100. It has to be done at the factory."
10. "You don't need to clean your black powder rifle if you use lard for patch lube. That's what the mountain men did."
There are more, but I think these are the top ten.

Yep. I have used it to clean my firearm barrels for a few years now and have found it to be efficient in cleaning the barrel of any residual powder as well as through. It is very harmful to any wood finish so remove the barrel to treat it. It is faster than a wire brush and running an endless number of wads to get a barrel clean. Make sure you use it in a vented area.

does it come in a 55 gallon drum? home depot has a pressure washer on sale and I have a high school trap team in need of a gun cleaning lesson

I've gotten it both in my eye and on my skin. Probably explains a lot right there.

Welkin is an archaic, English term; it refers to the sky, the upper air, the firmament, the heavens or the Celestial sphere. Heaven and Earth, in other words. When you make the welkin ring, the sound is only comparable to Hiroshima and Nagasaki after a visit from the Enola Gay and Bockscar, a hand grenade in your own personal foxhole, or the stupid next door neighbors playing rap music at full volume.

Be careful with the carburetor cleaner (aka Gun Scrubber). Don't get it on your skin, breathe it or have it anywhere near a flame. The resulting explosion will rearrange your gun room faster than a shu mine doing the same to your foot.

Does Gun Scrubber work for muzzleloaders, too? ie, Pyrodex?

I use windex to clean black powder guns' must be the amonia...

crm3006

Did you drop of a "SIGN" for them? LMAO!

Dave and All,
Gun Scrubber is excellent. I've been using it for four years. It's the application that's harmful to guns.
The full power stuff cannot be used on pistols or rifles with synthetic stocks. The first can I bought I ruined the plastic grips on my Ruger MkII pistol. Can't imagine how I would react if I had sprayed it on a rifle with a McMillan stock.
Remove barreled actions when using this stuff. I do understand they are making plastic friendly stuff, haven't seen it though.

I also use break cleaner. You can get chlorinated and non-chlorinated break cleaner at Wal-Mart for a lot less than you can get Gun Scrubber.
Works great for getting into cracks and crevices.
Break cleaner does a great job of removing crud, oil and grease, which if not followed by some sort of oil, can result in rust.

I would avoid getting it on your skin, in your eyes, or on plastic or a wood stocks. The stuff is pretty nasty.

Oh, by the way, if you heat up chlorinated break cleaner, the resulting gas can do really harmful things to your nervous system.

@ dale freeman
There, now you know Dave is archaic.

Zermoid: That is the method I have used to date and, of course, it works.

Del in KS: I have read of your method, but being naturally lazy, I'm not crazy about running around town to get all that stuff.

Sarge: never heard of Windex, but it does appeal to my lazy nature.

Which is why I asked whether Gun Scrubber works on BP/substitutes - I already have some of that and it is muzzleloader season here in SWFLA. But I don't think anyone answered the question. What say ye, gang?

To Ed J.
I don't believe a word of it.
I am an American, he's my uncle, so that makes him an AMERICAN ##

Me-Two boxes of .22 rimfire please. Checkout person-Wadda ya huntin, deers ?

scratchgolf72

How's that .300 Roy working out for you?

I like good ole hoppes #9 by the way someone should tell John_written_words that it's brake fluid not break fluid!

gun scrubber is awesome for cleaning inside the actions and barrels. when i need to clean regular firearms of others before i work on them i use a lot of rubbing alcohol that is 95% or more. don't be a moron only use gun products on your guns. c.v.a. makes some of the best cleaner for black powder substitutes. when some person puts on his big girl panties behind the counter and tries to give me some of his minimal experienced advice i just tell him or her that i'm a gunsmith so you can't tell me something i don't already know. it shuts them up. to the guy who tells you i can hit something running at anything over about 300 yards needs is eyes checked and better turn his guns into the ethical hunting police.

Ballistol this stuff really works well for a lot of applications. That reminds me I need to buy an other can it comes in spray cans or non aerosol containers. Look it up.

[quote]Use Ballistol and experience all that this wonderful product has to offer!

FIREARMS - Cleans & dissolves traces of copper, lead, brass, zinc, & tombac. Lubricates & protects firearms, lock, stock & barrel. Forms a film that protects against rust. Will never gum-up or harden. Ideal for pistol grips, & rifle stocks. Removes residue from corrosive ammo.

BLACK POWDER - Dissolves black powder residues. Emulsifies with water. Mildly alkaline, neutralizes acids. Excellent patch lube.

LEATHER - Use on boots, shoes, gloves, holsters, slings, & saddles. Protects leather against water. Keeps leather soft & pliable, will darken lighter colors. Do not use on suede.

KNIVES & TOOLS - Lubricates, cleans, & protects metal, plastic, rubber, & wood. Outstanding penetrating oil, creeps into the finest cracks, loosens nuts & bolts. Also use as a cutting/boring oil (5:1 or 10:1).

MARINE - Use in motor compartments, on joints, links, wire pulls, & around battery terminals. Protects electrical contacts. Beautifies faded gel coats. Lubricates zippers, push buttons, & winches. Great for fishing rods, reels, & tackle. Protects Aluminum, prevents pitting.

ROAD & TRAIL - Lubricates autos, motorcycles, bicycles, rollerblades, skateboards, skis, & sports equipment. Protects all camping gear.[/quote]

I use the drug store stuff works fine. Made a batch couple weeks ago. Now I'm set for at least a year.

Pulp, That's a good idea if you don't have a wife. Now to figure out how to haul the toilet to the range.