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September 18, 2012

An Outdoor Philosophy

By David E. Petzal

As a rule, I try to avoid philosophy as strenuously as I avoid honest work. I would as soon read Hegel or Kant or Nietzsche as I would pound a darning needle up my nose. But sometimes one is forced to think about something more all encompassing than Ms. Mila Kunis (pictured here).

While hunting in New Zealand this past spring, I ran into a South African hunter of vast experience who said, in the course of our conversation, “The purpose of hunting isn’t to kill some stupid animal. It’s to give yourself a chance to stand alone in the wilderness and realize how insignificant you are.”

Forty years ago Ted Trueblood (There was an outdoorsman!) wrote about feeling exactly the same thing while looking up at the stars in an Idaho night sky.

A Montanan I was hunting with in the Bangtails on a bitter cold November day, apropos of nothing, said, “I love these mountains … but they scare the hell out of me.”

I had my own moment sitting on the beach at Midway Atoll, the only human around, looking out at the Pacific Ocean. If you would ever care for a good dose of your own insignificance, I highly recommend regarding the Pacific.

Take these thoughts into the woods with you this fall.

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from TED FORD wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

In Alaska on the the Golsovia River a little NE of St.Michaels,watching Grizzly bears feeding on blueberries across a seemingly endless tundra,,,insignificant indeed.

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from SD_Whitetail_Hntr wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

DP- I thought your posts usually had words to go along with the picture. I'm having trouble spotting them.

But seriously. This weekend I will be chasing speed goats and muleys across the western South Dakota prairie with nothing but a bow in hand. I will hump somewhere between 30 and 40 miles in 3 days. And will never once feel like anything more than a needle in a pretty ridiculously sized haystack. Sounds like 30 degree mornings, 60 degree high temps. Millions of people will be sitting in front of their Televisions the whole time I'm out there. Pity.

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from DSMbirddog wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

Good thoughts DEP. We all need to experience this from time to time to keep our persective. And I am sure if Mila Kunis could read she would agree.

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from LWarren wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

Sure me and the bugs or me and Mila... I love bugs but am really having problems making this decision. How about me and the bugs with Mila?

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from TED FORD wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

SD Whitetail Hntr,what part of South Dakota?I've a fair amount of history out there.

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from CL3 wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

DEP and all, check out "A Quiet Place of Violence," Allen Morris Jones.

I just finished it, and I think there's the right amount of "philosophy" in it. It's along the same lines... instead of just observing nature, hunting allows you to take part in nature. Hunting is the original "project," possibly the only one that matters. And also, realize how insignificant you are.

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from elmer f. wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

i had that moment, when i was about 20. i was lost in a huge swamp, getting more lost by the hour. it was my first time out hunting on my own. no one went with me. i was 20, i was invincible, right? in my youthful ignorance, i had total faith in my compass. after all, a compass can never read wrong. well, as i learned after about 3 hours of tromping deeper and deeper into the swamp, they can. IF you read it with your gun barrel to close to it. it was not until i had to sit and rest, that i discovered my mistake. sitting there, alone, with no person or even animal in sight, i realized, that it was just me. no one to come looking, no one even knew where i was. i told my father that i was going to hunt in West Branch, not the swamps around Houghton Lake. some 35 miles apart. when you are completely alone, you really are insignificant. at 20, i had nothing to really say i was on this earth, except my parents, and a piece of paper saying i was born. i had done nothing memorable, did not have a girl friend of any significance, no real accomplishments other than graduating high school. it took me another 5 hours to get out of that swamp. but i came out within a mile of my car. with some very valuable knowledge under my belt. first, i REALLY was a nobody. just another young punk kid, whom if never returned, only a few would even notice. the rest of the world would have no knowledge, or care that i was gone. really, the vast majority of us live our entire life that way. sometimes, that is a good thing. i would rather live my entire life as a nobody, than to be remembered as a tyrant, or other miserable human being that inflicted pain and horrors onto others.

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from Huntn4Bigft wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

WOW!
I thought I was the only one to feel this way. Stick your finger in the pacific and pull it out. THAT is how I feel and it isnt a bad feeling.
Semper Fi.

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from RipperIII wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

I get the same sense of "insignificance" fishing a certain stretch of the Madison, she just keeps on rolling on.

This is one of the reasons that i enjoy hunting alone, working my way deep into the woods far removed from any extraneous noise or bothersome people, I can hunt, I can shoot or just simply stretch out under a big old oak and take a nap.

I live in Atlanta, and when I go out to Montana, Idaho, Wyoming or South Dakota, I always spend a few hours away from the campfire just to stare up at the clear night sky...not another feeling like it.

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from Amflyer wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

I'm sure the Pacific is wild, majestic, powerful, and all that, but I remember having this feeling watching my future wife and her mother plan our wedding.

Regarding the accompanying picture to this post, it made more sense when I remembered that you are a composite stock kind of guy, and not a fan of walnut.

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from deadeyedick wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

The rocky Mountains Look down from the high peaks and you can see forever. Then you will know your rightful place in this vast and magnificent universe. John Denver said it best in his song "Rocky Mountain High"

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from coachsjike wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

after staring at the picture for several minutes, i completely forgot what you said in your post so my response will be " sure!"

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from Ontario Honker ... wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

Ripper, and I thought I was the only guy in the world who hunts alone. Been doing it for forty years and sometimes for weeks at a time.

When riding out alone for twenty miles on a mountain trail with snowflakes falling as big as saucers in the night(of course, it never gets totally dark if there's snow on the ground) one has lots of time to reflect. Swaying back and forth in the saddle barely awake and sometimes barely asleep with only the sound of the horses to break the total quiet ... for hours. I did it many times. And I'll do it again. At least one more time. I'm sure that's what it'll be like riding to heaven at the end of my last hunt. Hopefully the same for the rest of you too. No one should exist without the benefit of that experience at least once. Pray for it boys!

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from Sarge01 wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

I have had that feeling a couple of times. Standing on the shore of the Yellow Sea off of the coast of Korea with no one around thinking how far I was from the mountains of WV, laying in a bunker in South East Asia with rockets raining all around wondering why I had volunteered for something like that and standing on top of the Purcell Mts. in BC looking down on the Canadian Rockies thinking just how far I had come and how much effort I had put forth to to get there with no other humans in sight.

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from Tim Platt wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

All you have to do is sit in the woods from sunup until sundown to realize how insignificant your life is in the great scheme of things. The animals are still out there doing what they have been doing forever. We have just built little boxes to hide in so we are no longer included in their daily rituals.

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from davycrockettfv wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

That feeling is the entire reason why I hunt in the first place. I don't get it when just hiking or camping. It takes a real hunt experience to get my to come alive enough to realize how small and insignificant I am. Not everyone on this site is religious, but if you care to, read Psalm 8 and you'll see that the author knew exactly what that felt like.

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from buckhunter wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

I think to be satisfactorily insignificant, you must be alone. Have two solo back country trips planned this fall. Once I the mule train rides off, I'm alone until they come back. Can't wait.

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from SD Bob wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

I totally disagree that the purpose of hunting is to stand alone and realize how insignificant we are! If that's his take on what hunting is about,I feel sorry for him? For me, it's about the total experience: the chase, the terrain, the time spent with friends, the time spent away from friends, the challenge, the kill, not killing anything, eating what you kill, telling the story, hearing others stories, the anticipation of the next hunt, the enjoyment of past hunts etc etc. The philosophical feeling of being insignificant in the grand scope has nothing to do with being a hunter.

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from Carl Huber wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

I would have to say climbing Mount Greylock Mass. with my father as a child. It was the highest point in the north east and the muse for Herman Melville's Moby D*ick. You where literally in the clouds. I could make it rain by waving my hand. When the clouds blew off you could see the Green Mountains in 5 states. My father remarked that if you can't see Gods hand here you'll never find it in a building. The summer of that year we where in Montauk point. Frank Mundus had harpooned a record Great White Shark. Laying on the dock I noticed he was as big around as a nearby VW bug. I felt very small that year!! Not to denigrate Miss Kunis it did take the fall of the USSR to bring that smokey eyed beauty to America.

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from 99explorer wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

I actually have that feeling of insignificance all the time:-)

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from Carl Huber wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

For extra credit can anyone tell me why I had to use an Asterisk in the above post!

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from Jerry A. wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

Looking at the stars in the night sky while I was in Saudi Arabia for Desert Storm gave me that feeling. They are so much more visible in places where there isn't so much extraneous light. I wasn't alone (surrounded by thousands of Iraqi POW's and hundreds of other soldiers) but I got the feeling nonetheless.

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from RipperIII wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

I' tell ya another moment of insignificance I experienced...
A few years back I went to visit a girlfriend who lived out of state, I arrived at her house a few minutes before she did, headed upstairs to stow my gear and noticed what appeared to be a personal service device plugged into the wall, Black & Decker no less...I was relieved to discover on closer examination that it was an electric screwdriver...

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from scottrods wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

I completely agree. You appreciate the wonder of creation when you realise how small a part of it you actually are!

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from grizzbear wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

Dave you have very good taste in young ladies . I have never out of place in the woods , I feel at home there . Have never been any place that many of you have hunted nor have I wanted to . Mostly hunted alone when younger now with my sons and with Gods blessing my grandchildren when they get a little older .Hunting is a way of getting back to a life that we dearly need and to many have forgotten . I feel sorry for them . Many more days in the woods small or big for all of you , may you find what you are look for .

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from Gtbigsky wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

I don't get that feeling so much here in PA but i did all the time living in the West. Wether it was hunting, fishing, backpacking or skiing in the vast wilderness areas i philosophyzed a lot about mine and the rest of human civilizations insignificance in relation to earth, space and everything in between. The earth is 4,500,000,000 years old, but tell that to Michelle Bachmann..

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from Gtbigsky wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

Petzal,

I too prefer Brunettes over Blondes

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from T.W. Davidson wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

All . . .

When I was about thirteen, I went on a hunting trip iun Northern California. We were on the slopes of mountains in deep forest. Redwood trees. The air was so clean, so cold and so saturated with oxygen that I felt high.

My stepfather, who I never saw use a compass or map no matter where we went into any wilderness anywhere, and who always knew where magnetic north was even in a fog so thick you couldn't see your own nose, parked me in a spot in the forest and told me that a deer (or several) would come my way within the next few hours. He specifically told me not to leave my spot.

Naturally, an hour later I was wandering all over the woods and an hour after that I knew I was completely lost. I felt that "I am insignificant" feeling even though I had my beloved .257 Roberts in my hands and matches and firestarter and the will and the knowledge to make myself warm. (Two hours later my stepfather appeared out of nowhere, completely relaxed, nonchalant. He slapped me alongside the head for disobeying his order and, equally bad, for getting lost (but he spent the next six months teaching me to use a compass and a map, and I've not been lost since).

The only other time I've felt completely insignificant started about three days after my wife became pregnant with our daughter. That period of insignificance lasted for the next twelve years. (I've been divorced for quite a while now and, quite honestly, feel much better and not nearly as insignificant anymore.)

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from spuddog wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

I think Charles Lindbergh said it best - "In wilderness I sense the miracle of life, and behind it our scientific accomplishments fade to trivia."

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from spuddog wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

By the way, Dave, I can live without the fleshy pics. They are definitely appealing, but there is no beauty.

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from Logan C. Adams wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

“The purpose of hunting isn’t to kill some stupid animal. It’s to give yourself a chance to stand alone in the wilderness and realize how insignificant you are.”

I'm gonna have to commit that to memory.

It makes me pause and feel sorry for all those poor, sad souls who hide in big cities, far from nature, so they can imagine themselves bigger than they really are.

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from Carney wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

NIV Psalm 8:1 A psalm of David.
O LORD, our Lord, how majestic is your name in all the earth! You have set your glory above the heavens.
2 From the lips of children and infants you have ordained praise because of your enemies, to silence the foe and the avenger.
3 When I consider your heavens, the work of your fingers, the moon and the stars, which you have set in place,
4 what is man that you are mindful of him, the son of man that you care for him?
5 You made him a little lower than the heavenly beings and crowned him with glory and honor.
6 You made him ruler over the works of your hands; you put everything under his feet:
7 all flocks and herds, and the beasts of the field,
8 the birds of the air, and the fish of the sea, all that swim the paths of the seas.
9 O LORD, our Lord, how majestic is your name in all the earth!

Feeling small in the expanse of God's creation should direct us to get to know the King of Kings. Just sayin'.

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from dale freeman wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

I was standing, looking at the vastness, while visiting "Billy the kids'" grave, looking at the sky, and I felt so alone and insignificant.
Mother nature is such a woderful thing and Im afraid we've pissed her off.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

Carney, you humble me often, my friend.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

Fishing out of Neah Bay or La Push, WA out on the open Pacific sout hof Cape Flattery, even on a nice day, you might not see another boat for hours. You get to feeling mighty snall, especially if you are by yourself.

It might not be the end of the Earth, but you can see it from there!

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from bullock wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

There's a little stratch of river close by that I don't wade often enough. You'll never see another person, unless you take a friend. All it is is you, the bugs, the birds, and the occasional smallmouth. The river, she never stops. She'll be there ten thousand years after I'm gone. It may not exactly be the Pacific, but you realize just how tiny a piece of the puzzle you actually are. Goodluck and Godspeed to those getting out this weekend.

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from AlaskanExile wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

I had that moment again last year. I had finally returned to Alaska having retired from active duty and too many combat sorties in Iraq and Afghanistan. I finally got away to do some moose hunting in September.
After a few hours of glassing and calling in the perfect, 50F weather under clear skies with autumn raging all around me, I lay there in the sunshine contemplating it all. Looking up to the Heavens I noticed up high, very high probably 5000 ft above me were gigantic flocks of waterfowl, heading south so high I could not hear them in the deafening silence of the tundra.
I had to wonder how many thousands of years they had done that and how many thousands more they would.
If I had all the ammo I could carry, and a gun to reach them with a barrel that wouldn't melt down, I couldn't have made the slightest dent in their population, their numbers were so vast. Knowing that in 20 or 30 or 40 years they would still be there and I would not. That's insignificance!

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from z41 wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

My moment of insignificance came when I realized there was a judging God and I was eternally lost. My significance came when I met Jesus and found my Father.

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from kudukid wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

The Big Bonus:
It has been my observation that folks who go out with such an attitude always score much higher success than those whose goal is to "upgrade my mountain caribou listing", or some other such menial pursuit!
Best wishes to all.

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from nc30-06 wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

First, Carney, thank you. Second, WAM You state the truth in response to Carney.

Now, two of my times of having this experience. One was while flying alone, on a clear night at Fl 330, and seeing the stars and all that vastness, then looking down and seeing the lights of large cities that at that altitude looked pretty small, I realized just how tiny and insignificant I was.
The next was while sitting in a tree stand watching all the life around me. Squirrels, crows, field mice, other birds, a raccoon, spiders and flying insects. And here am I, up in a tree watching it all, and I again felt small.

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from MICHMAN wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

"As much as I love to hunt, I realize that hunting is but one piece of the puzzle when looking at the Big Picture of Life. Through hunting, I have a front row seat on nature, and it speaks forth much truth about life and death. My first hand observations of nature reinforce my belief in a higher power, which I believe to be the living God of Christianity. I believe in Creation and enjoy my interactions with our amazing earth while pursuing wild game."

"Big Picture thinking gives me perspective and I realize that the creator of life communicates to us through his hadiwork of nature, through His loving spirit and through His word; the Bible. Our time on earth is limited and can be measured like a single drop of water on a mighty ocean.God tells us in His book about life beyond earth and how we can acquire it."

From the chapter "The Big Picture," TROPHY WHITE TALES.

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from Dcast wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

Insignificance in my opinion is a form of self pity. I felt insignificant up until Jan. 24, 2006 when my daughter was born and now with a 6 yr old daughter and a 4 yr old son with the world in turmoil I feel significant. Try telling your wife and children that if daddy passes on it is no big deal! Try telling the man or woman in military garb that just came home from Iraq or Afganistan that you & they alone are insignificant. I doubt the guy that I found face down in his blood on the highway off ramp after wrecking his motorcycle two weeks ago thought I was insignificant. We all are a grain of sand in the vast oceans, but we are all significant to someone or something!

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from Steve in Virginia wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

"Insignificance" is probably fair, but I think why certain people love to hunt -- at least in my case -- is the simplicity of the experience. It's experiencing nature and your surroundings at a very basic level that's so appealing, particularly when workdays are filled with stresses that in reality are quite insignificant.

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from RJ Arena wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

My wife drags me to church (without much kicking and screaming) on a fairly regular basis, but I feel closest to God when I am out in His country, be it a mountain top, desert, or the ocean.

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from Safado wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

I have experienced this at least twice. Once while in a small plane about 25 years ago...the pilot let me sit in the co-pilot seat; we were flying in the clouds for quite a while...and final broke threw them and all around us was an ocean of white clouds...I felt like I was with the angels, my heart was beating I looked over at he pilot and could tell he was as moved as I even though he probably experienced that quite a bit.
The other time was when I was stuck on the side of a mountain in South America, all alone in a thunderstorm at least 12 hours by car from anyone that I knew...boy did I feel insignificant!

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from aferraro wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

Maybe it's because I've spent so many years living and working in NYC. Hunting and fishing lets my brain relax and connect with nature in a way that I can't begin to explain and I don't need to escape to a remote location. Fields or a trout steam 5 minutes from my house work just fine. "Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment" is a philosophy that works for me in the field and in life.

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from azduane wrote 38 weeks 3 days ago

I'm not a religious man but I always feel when I'm outdoors hunting or camping that I'm in the best, grandest church there ever was.

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from duckcreekdick wrote 38 weeks 3 days ago

I feel insignificant just looking at Ms. Mila, but I'm 67 years old, so cut me some slack.

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from Bizzydays wrote 38 weeks 3 days ago

Yeah. Every once in awhile I begin to feel mankind is omnipotent and there is no God. Then I screw up out doors. The first time I thought I would lose a few fingers to the cold I became a better man if not better sportsman.
I do agree that I would rather say I read the great philosophers than to say I am reading them. Sorta like freezing those fingers again.

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from Longbeard wrote 38 weeks 3 days ago

A beach is a place where a man can feel
He's the only soul in the world that's real.

I feel the same way in deep woods or on tops of mountains.

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from SL wrote 38 weeks 3 days ago

What a bizarre post. It starts with a picture of Mila Kunis and then it goes into the philosophical analysis of why we hunt?? I say to hell with all this creationist and philosophical jibberish! I will guarantee any of you dudes that you would feel VERY significant if Mila let you romance her. You would think you owned the world, let alone think you are all alone in the Pacific. LOL

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from Ricardo Rodríguez wrote 38 weeks 2 days ago

Just something I read last week and seems to be pertinent with the topic.

Hunting is not understood by the majority, this is an alienated world. People go in car to the university and to their home or their job, whitout idea of nature, which is not innocent, it does not lack malice and cruelty, It is though. You cannot love nature if not completely, whitout contradictions. Hunting gets you closer, like a deep rite, to mysteries difficult to reach other way. By understanding the process of death you tend to be less violent, you know what your doings cause, you understand your place there and that you are part of the ecological chain. I have taken detractors hunting and they transform, people with passion that get to realize it and had not imagined it.
It is difficult, but if you understand hunting, you understand the human being.
-Guillermo Arriaga, Movie director (The three burials of Melquiades Estrada, 21 grams, Dog loves, Babel, etc.), preffers to be defined as a hunter.

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from Ralph the Rifleman wrote 38 weeks 2 days ago

Nice topic Dave, ps-Nicer Pic!

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from Ralph the Rifleman wrote 38 weeks 2 days ago

Nice topic Dave, ps-Nicer Pic!

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from Del in KS wrote 38 weeks 1 day ago

Alaskan exile, I too did that. Back in the 80's with a friend I caught a bush plane across the Tanana River and packed into the Wood river wilderness area South of Fairbanks (we were stationed at Ft. Wainwright). to hunt caribou. All day long for 3 days huge flocks of sandhill cranes passed over heading South. We saw hundreds of caribou and a record class bull moose. Shot 2 caribou bulls and packed them out to a small airstrip. Man that was the most fun I can ever remember. Had to let the moose walk as there was no way to get the meat out and wanton waste is a major crime in AK. I can still hear those cranes. There are some photos of that hunt in my files if you punch my username.

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from missedit wrote 37 weeks 3 days ago

Dose she hunt like THAT

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from Marine ATC wrote 30 weeks 9 hours ago

Great quote. I love to get out and just see all different types of nature. In the last two years I've gotten to see everything from the bayous of Louisiana, to the mountains of Arizona, the forests of Virginia, the vastness of the Pacific Ocean, and the deserts of Afghanistan. It's all beautiful and sure does make you realize how insignificant you are compared to it all.

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from Mh Ripon wrote 4 weeks 3 days ago

Lovely place . Very good outdoor facility. Most informative.
Park City Fly Fishing

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from Carney wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

NIV Psalm 8:1 A psalm of David.
O LORD, our Lord, how majestic is your name in all the earth! You have set your glory above the heavens.
2 From the lips of children and infants you have ordained praise because of your enemies, to silence the foe and the avenger.
3 When I consider your heavens, the work of your fingers, the moon and the stars, which you have set in place,
4 what is man that you are mindful of him, the son of man that you care for him?
5 You made him a little lower than the heavenly beings and crowned him with glory and honor.
6 You made him ruler over the works of your hands; you put everything under his feet:
7 all flocks and herds, and the beasts of the field,
8 the birds of the air, and the fish of the sea, all that swim the paths of the seas.
9 O LORD, our Lord, how majestic is your name in all the earth!

Feeling small in the expanse of God's creation should direct us to get to know the King of Kings. Just sayin'.

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from Ontario Honker ... wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

Ripper, and I thought I was the only guy in the world who hunts alone. Been doing it for forty years and sometimes for weeks at a time.

When riding out alone for twenty miles on a mountain trail with snowflakes falling as big as saucers in the night(of course, it never gets totally dark if there's snow on the ground) one has lots of time to reflect. Swaying back and forth in the saddle barely awake and sometimes barely asleep with only the sound of the horses to break the total quiet ... for hours. I did it many times. And I'll do it again. At least one more time. I'm sure that's what it'll be like riding to heaven at the end of my last hunt. Hopefully the same for the rest of you too. No one should exist without the benefit of that experience at least once. Pray for it boys!

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from elmer f. wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

i had that moment, when i was about 20. i was lost in a huge swamp, getting more lost by the hour. it was my first time out hunting on my own. no one went with me. i was 20, i was invincible, right? in my youthful ignorance, i had total faith in my compass. after all, a compass can never read wrong. well, as i learned after about 3 hours of tromping deeper and deeper into the swamp, they can. IF you read it with your gun barrel to close to it. it was not until i had to sit and rest, that i discovered my mistake. sitting there, alone, with no person or even animal in sight, i realized, that it was just me. no one to come looking, no one even knew where i was. i told my father that i was going to hunt in West Branch, not the swamps around Houghton Lake. some 35 miles apart. when you are completely alone, you really are insignificant. at 20, i had nothing to really say i was on this earth, except my parents, and a piece of paper saying i was born. i had done nothing memorable, did not have a girl friend of any significance, no real accomplishments other than graduating high school. it took me another 5 hours to get out of that swamp. but i came out within a mile of my car. with some very valuable knowledge under my belt. first, i REALLY was a nobody. just another young punk kid, whom if never returned, only a few would even notice. the rest of the world would have no knowledge, or care that i was gone. really, the vast majority of us live our entire life that way. sometimes, that is a good thing. i would rather live my entire life as a nobody, than to be remembered as a tyrant, or other miserable human being that inflicted pain and horrors onto others.

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from TED FORD wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

In Alaska on the the Golsovia River a little NE of St.Michaels,watching Grizzly bears feeding on blueberries across a seemingly endless tundra,,,insignificant indeed.

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from Amflyer wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

I'm sure the Pacific is wild, majestic, powerful, and all that, but I remember having this feeling watching my future wife and her mother plan our wedding.

Regarding the accompanying picture to this post, it made more sense when I remembered that you are a composite stock kind of guy, and not a fan of walnut.

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from davycrockettfv wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

That feeling is the entire reason why I hunt in the first place. I don't get it when just hiking or camping. It takes a real hunt experience to get my to come alive enough to realize how small and insignificant I am. Not everyone on this site is religious, but if you care to, read Psalm 8 and you'll see that the author knew exactly what that felt like.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

Carney, you humble me often, my friend.

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from MICHMAN wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

"As much as I love to hunt, I realize that hunting is but one piece of the puzzle when looking at the Big Picture of Life. Through hunting, I have a front row seat on nature, and it speaks forth much truth about life and death. My first hand observations of nature reinforce my belief in a higher power, which I believe to be the living God of Christianity. I believe in Creation and enjoy my interactions with our amazing earth while pursuing wild game."

"Big Picture thinking gives me perspective and I realize that the creator of life communicates to us through his hadiwork of nature, through His loving spirit and through His word; the Bible. Our time on earth is limited and can be measured like a single drop of water on a mighty ocean.God tells us in His book about life beyond earth and how we can acquire it."

From the chapter "The Big Picture," TROPHY WHITE TALES.

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from SD_Whitetail_Hntr wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

DP- I thought your posts usually had words to go along with the picture. I'm having trouble spotting them.

But seriously. This weekend I will be chasing speed goats and muleys across the western South Dakota prairie with nothing but a bow in hand. I will hump somewhere between 30 and 40 miles in 3 days. And will never once feel like anything more than a needle in a pretty ridiculously sized haystack. Sounds like 30 degree mornings, 60 degree high temps. Millions of people will be sitting in front of their Televisions the whole time I'm out there. Pity.

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from RipperIII wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

I get the same sense of "insignificance" fishing a certain stretch of the Madison, she just keeps on rolling on.

This is one of the reasons that i enjoy hunting alone, working my way deep into the woods far removed from any extraneous noise or bothersome people, I can hunt, I can shoot or just simply stretch out under a big old oak and take a nap.

I live in Atlanta, and when I go out to Montana, Idaho, Wyoming or South Dakota, I always spend a few hours away from the campfire just to stare up at the clear night sky...not another feeling like it.

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from Sarge01 wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

I have had that feeling a couple of times. Standing on the shore of the Yellow Sea off of the coast of Korea with no one around thinking how far I was from the mountains of WV, laying in a bunker in South East Asia with rockets raining all around wondering why I had volunteered for something like that and standing on top of the Purcell Mts. in BC looking down on the Canadian Rockies thinking just how far I had come and how much effort I had put forth to to get there with no other humans in sight.

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from z41 wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

My moment of insignificance came when I realized there was a judging God and I was eternally lost. My significance came when I met Jesus and found my Father.

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from Steve in Virginia wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

"Insignificance" is probably fair, but I think why certain people love to hunt -- at least in my case -- is the simplicity of the experience. It's experiencing nature and your surroundings at a very basic level that's so appealing, particularly when workdays are filled with stresses that in reality are quite insignificant.

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from Del in KS wrote 38 weeks 1 day ago

Alaskan exile, I too did that. Back in the 80's with a friend I caught a bush plane across the Tanana River and packed into the Wood river wilderness area South of Fairbanks (we were stationed at Ft. Wainwright). to hunt caribou. All day long for 3 days huge flocks of sandhill cranes passed over heading South. We saw hundreds of caribou and a record class bull moose. Shot 2 caribou bulls and packed them out to a small airstrip. Man that was the most fun I can ever remember. Had to let the moose walk as there was no way to get the meat out and wanton waste is a major crime in AK. I can still hear those cranes. There are some photos of that hunt in my files if you punch my username.

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from DSMbirddog wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

Good thoughts DEP. We all need to experience this from time to time to keep our persective. And I am sure if Mila Kunis could read she would agree.

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from Huntn4Bigft wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

WOW!
I thought I was the only one to feel this way. Stick your finger in the pacific and pull it out. THAT is how I feel and it isnt a bad feeling.
Semper Fi.

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from deadeyedick wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

The rocky Mountains Look down from the high peaks and you can see forever. Then you will know your rightful place in this vast and magnificent universe. John Denver said it best in his song "Rocky Mountain High"

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from SD Bob wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

I totally disagree that the purpose of hunting is to stand alone and realize how insignificant we are! If that's his take on what hunting is about,I feel sorry for him? For me, it's about the total experience: the chase, the terrain, the time spent with friends, the time spent away from friends, the challenge, the kill, not killing anything, eating what you kill, telling the story, hearing others stories, the anticipation of the next hunt, the enjoyment of past hunts etc etc. The philosophical feeling of being insignificant in the grand scope has nothing to do with being a hunter.

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from Carl Huber wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

I would have to say climbing Mount Greylock Mass. with my father as a child. It was the highest point in the north east and the muse for Herman Melville's Moby D*ick. You where literally in the clouds. I could make it rain by waving my hand. When the clouds blew off you could see the Green Mountains in 5 states. My father remarked that if you can't see Gods hand here you'll never find it in a building. The summer of that year we where in Montauk point. Frank Mundus had harpooned a record Great White Shark. Laying on the dock I noticed he was as big around as a nearby VW bug. I felt very small that year!! Not to denigrate Miss Kunis it did take the fall of the USSR to bring that smokey eyed beauty to America.

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from RipperIII wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

I' tell ya another moment of insignificance I experienced...
A few years back I went to visit a girlfriend who lived out of state, I arrived at her house a few minutes before she did, headed upstairs to stow my gear and noticed what appeared to be a personal service device plugged into the wall, Black & Decker no less...I was relieved to discover on closer examination that it was an electric screwdriver...

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from T.W. Davidson wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

All . . .

When I was about thirteen, I went on a hunting trip iun Northern California. We were on the slopes of mountains in deep forest. Redwood trees. The air was so clean, so cold and so saturated with oxygen that I felt high.

My stepfather, who I never saw use a compass or map no matter where we went into any wilderness anywhere, and who always knew where magnetic north was even in a fog so thick you couldn't see your own nose, parked me in a spot in the forest and told me that a deer (or several) would come my way within the next few hours. He specifically told me not to leave my spot.

Naturally, an hour later I was wandering all over the woods and an hour after that I knew I was completely lost. I felt that "I am insignificant" feeling even though I had my beloved .257 Roberts in my hands and matches and firestarter and the will and the knowledge to make myself warm. (Two hours later my stepfather appeared out of nowhere, completely relaxed, nonchalant. He slapped me alongside the head for disobeying his order and, equally bad, for getting lost (but he spent the next six months teaching me to use a compass and a map, and I've not been lost since).

The only other time I've felt completely insignificant started about three days after my wife became pregnant with our daughter. That period of insignificance lasted for the next twelve years. (I've been divorced for quite a while now and, quite honestly, feel much better and not nearly as insignificant anymore.)

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from spuddog wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

I think Charles Lindbergh said it best - "In wilderness I sense the miracle of life, and behind it our scientific accomplishments fade to trivia."

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from spuddog wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

By the way, Dave, I can live without the fleshy pics. They are definitely appealing, but there is no beauty.

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from Logan C. Adams wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

“The purpose of hunting isn’t to kill some stupid animal. It’s to give yourself a chance to stand alone in the wilderness and realize how insignificant you are.”

I'm gonna have to commit that to memory.

It makes me pause and feel sorry for all those poor, sad souls who hide in big cities, far from nature, so they can imagine themselves bigger than they really are.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

Fishing out of Neah Bay or La Push, WA out on the open Pacific sout hof Cape Flattery, even on a nice day, you might not see another boat for hours. You get to feeling mighty snall, especially if you are by yourself.

It might not be the end of the Earth, but you can see it from there!

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from AlaskanExile wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

I had that moment again last year. I had finally returned to Alaska having retired from active duty and too many combat sorties in Iraq and Afghanistan. I finally got away to do some moose hunting in September.
After a few hours of glassing and calling in the perfect, 50F weather under clear skies with autumn raging all around me, I lay there in the sunshine contemplating it all. Looking up to the Heavens I noticed up high, very high probably 5000 ft above me were gigantic flocks of waterfowl, heading south so high I could not hear them in the deafening silence of the tundra.
I had to wonder how many thousands of years they had done that and how many thousands more they would.
If I had all the ammo I could carry, and a gun to reach them with a barrel that wouldn't melt down, I couldn't have made the slightest dent in their population, their numbers were so vast. Knowing that in 20 or 30 or 40 years they would still be there and I would not. That's insignificance!

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from kudukid wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

The Big Bonus:
It has been my observation that folks who go out with such an attitude always score much higher success than those whose goal is to "upgrade my mountain caribou listing", or some other such menial pursuit!
Best wishes to all.

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from nc30-06 wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

First, Carney, thank you. Second, WAM You state the truth in response to Carney.

Now, two of my times of having this experience. One was while flying alone, on a clear night at Fl 330, and seeing the stars and all that vastness, then looking down and seeing the lights of large cities that at that altitude looked pretty small, I realized just how tiny and insignificant I was.
The next was while sitting in a tree stand watching all the life around me. Squirrels, crows, field mice, other birds, a raccoon, spiders and flying insects. And here am I, up in a tree watching it all, and I again felt small.

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from RJ Arena wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

My wife drags me to church (without much kicking and screaming) on a fairly regular basis, but I feel closest to God when I am out in His country, be it a mountain top, desert, or the ocean.

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from aferraro wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

Maybe it's because I've spent so many years living and working in NYC. Hunting and fishing lets my brain relax and connect with nature in a way that I can't begin to explain and I don't need to escape to a remote location. Fields or a trout steam 5 minutes from my house work just fine. "Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment" is a philosophy that works for me in the field and in life.

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from azduane wrote 38 weeks 3 days ago

I'm not a religious man but I always feel when I'm outdoors hunting or camping that I'm in the best, grandest church there ever was.

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from duckcreekdick wrote 38 weeks 3 days ago

I feel insignificant just looking at Ms. Mila, but I'm 67 years old, so cut me some slack.

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from Ricardo Rodríguez wrote 38 weeks 2 days ago

Just something I read last week and seems to be pertinent with the topic.

Hunting is not understood by the majority, this is an alienated world. People go in car to the university and to their home or their job, whitout idea of nature, which is not innocent, it does not lack malice and cruelty, It is though. You cannot love nature if not completely, whitout contradictions. Hunting gets you closer, like a deep rite, to mysteries difficult to reach other way. By understanding the process of death you tend to be less violent, you know what your doings cause, you understand your place there and that you are part of the ecological chain. I have taken detractors hunting and they transform, people with passion that get to realize it and had not imagined it.
It is difficult, but if you understand hunting, you understand the human being.
-Guillermo Arriaga, Movie director (The three burials of Melquiades Estrada, 21 grams, Dog loves, Babel, etc.), preffers to be defined as a hunter.

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from LWarren wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

Sure me and the bugs or me and Mila... I love bugs but am really having problems making this decision. How about me and the bugs with Mila?

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from TED FORD wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

SD Whitetail Hntr,what part of South Dakota?I've a fair amount of history out there.

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from CL3 wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

DEP and all, check out "A Quiet Place of Violence," Allen Morris Jones.

I just finished it, and I think there's the right amount of "philosophy" in it. It's along the same lines... instead of just observing nature, hunting allows you to take part in nature. Hunting is the original "project," possibly the only one that matters. And also, realize how insignificant you are.

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from coachsjike wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

after staring at the picture for several minutes, i completely forgot what you said in your post so my response will be " sure!"

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from Tim Platt wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

All you have to do is sit in the woods from sunup until sundown to realize how insignificant your life is in the great scheme of things. The animals are still out there doing what they have been doing forever. We have just built little boxes to hide in so we are no longer included in their daily rituals.

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from buckhunter wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

I think to be satisfactorily insignificant, you must be alone. Have two solo back country trips planned this fall. Once I the mule train rides off, I'm alone until they come back. Can't wait.

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from 99explorer wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

I actually have that feeling of insignificance all the time:-)

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from Carl Huber wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

For extra credit can anyone tell me why I had to use an Asterisk in the above post!

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from Jerry A. wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

Looking at the stars in the night sky while I was in Saudi Arabia for Desert Storm gave me that feeling. They are so much more visible in places where there isn't so much extraneous light. I wasn't alone (surrounded by thousands of Iraqi POW's and hundreds of other soldiers) but I got the feeling nonetheless.

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from scottrods wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

I completely agree. You appreciate the wonder of creation when you realise how small a part of it you actually are!

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from grizzbear wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

Dave you have very good taste in young ladies . I have never out of place in the woods , I feel at home there . Have never been any place that many of you have hunted nor have I wanted to . Mostly hunted alone when younger now with my sons and with Gods blessing my grandchildren when they get a little older .Hunting is a way of getting back to a life that we dearly need and to many have forgotten . I feel sorry for them . Many more days in the woods small or big for all of you , may you find what you are look for .

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from Gtbigsky wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

I don't get that feeling so much here in PA but i did all the time living in the West. Wether it was hunting, fishing, backpacking or skiing in the vast wilderness areas i philosophyzed a lot about mine and the rest of human civilizations insignificance in relation to earth, space and everything in between. The earth is 4,500,000,000 years old, but tell that to Michelle Bachmann..

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from Gtbigsky wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

Petzal,

I too prefer Brunettes over Blondes

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from dale freeman wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

I was standing, looking at the vastness, while visiting "Billy the kids'" grave, looking at the sky, and I felt so alone and insignificant.
Mother nature is such a woderful thing and Im afraid we've pissed her off.

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from bullock wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

There's a little stratch of river close by that I don't wade often enough. You'll never see another person, unless you take a friend. All it is is you, the bugs, the birds, and the occasional smallmouth. The river, she never stops. She'll be there ten thousand years after I'm gone. It may not exactly be the Pacific, but you realize just how tiny a piece of the puzzle you actually are. Goodluck and Godspeed to those getting out this weekend.

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from Dcast wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

Insignificance in my opinion is a form of self pity. I felt insignificant up until Jan. 24, 2006 when my daughter was born and now with a 6 yr old daughter and a 4 yr old son with the world in turmoil I feel significant. Try telling your wife and children that if daddy passes on it is no big deal! Try telling the man or woman in military garb that just came home from Iraq or Afganistan that you & they alone are insignificant. I doubt the guy that I found face down in his blood on the highway off ramp after wrecking his motorcycle two weeks ago thought I was insignificant. We all are a grain of sand in the vast oceans, but we are all significant to someone or something!

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from Safado wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

I have experienced this at least twice. Once while in a small plane about 25 years ago...the pilot let me sit in the co-pilot seat; we were flying in the clouds for quite a while...and final broke threw them and all around us was an ocean of white clouds...I felt like I was with the angels, my heart was beating I looked over at he pilot and could tell he was as moved as I even though he probably experienced that quite a bit.
The other time was when I was stuck on the side of a mountain in South America, all alone in a thunderstorm at least 12 hours by car from anyone that I knew...boy did I feel insignificant!

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from Bizzydays wrote 38 weeks 3 days ago

Yeah. Every once in awhile I begin to feel mankind is omnipotent and there is no God. Then I screw up out doors. The first time I thought I would lose a few fingers to the cold I became a better man if not better sportsman.
I do agree that I would rather say I read the great philosophers than to say I am reading them. Sorta like freezing those fingers again.

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from Longbeard wrote 38 weeks 3 days ago

A beach is a place where a man can feel
He's the only soul in the world that's real.

I feel the same way in deep woods or on tops of mountains.

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from Ralph the Rifleman wrote 38 weeks 2 days ago

Nice topic Dave, ps-Nicer Pic!

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from Ralph the Rifleman wrote 38 weeks 2 days ago

Nice topic Dave, ps-Nicer Pic!

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from missedit wrote 37 weeks 3 days ago

Dose she hunt like THAT

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from Marine ATC wrote 30 weeks 9 hours ago

Great quote. I love to get out and just see all different types of nature. In the last two years I've gotten to see everything from the bayous of Louisiana, to the mountains of Arizona, the forests of Virginia, the vastness of the Pacific Ocean, and the deserts of Afghanistan. It's all beautiful and sure does make you realize how insignificant you are compared to it all.

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from Mh Ripon wrote 4 weeks 3 days ago

Lovely place . Very good outdoor facility. Most informative.
Park City Fly Fishing

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from SL wrote 38 weeks 3 days ago

What a bizarre post. It starts with a picture of Mila Kunis and then it goes into the philosophical analysis of why we hunt?? I say to hell with all this creationist and philosophical jibberish! I will guarantee any of you dudes that you would feel VERY significant if Mila let you romance her. You would think you owned the world, let alone think you are all alone in the Pacific. LOL

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