One problem with simply ignoring the registration law is that if you got caught, not only would you have to face the consequences of the violation (which is a relatively mild misdemeanor, which could likely be plead down to a wrist slap and a stern talking to), but you would also likely get your pistol permit revoked depending on the county you live in and how much your judge likes guns. I live in Oneida County where the judge begrudgingly issues permits (after waiting the full six months allowed by law) and looks for any reason to revoke it. Hopefully the suit being filed shortly by the NY Rifle & Pistol Association will make this all moot.

NY also hasn't figured out what to do with rifles that are not semi-automatic and still hold more than 10 rounds. My Marlin 1894 in 357 could be interpreted as being an AR by their standards because only .22 rimfires have been given the tube magazine grace. It was hastily pushed through by people who don't know a darned thing about what they were revoking. Kudos New York. You are truly the Empire state (Imperialism, that is).

One of the biggest of the many problems with the NY law, as well as the bill being offered nationally by Feinstein, is that it automatically turns thousands of otherwise law-abiding, legal gunowners into potential criminals overnight. Cuomo's bill is only slightly more noxious than Feinstein's, in that it includes no grandfather clause whatsoever and puts the onus on gunowners to either dispose of rifles and magazines they purchased legally -- probably at a loss -- or face potential prosecution. Of course, proponents regard every gunowner as a wacko and potential mass murderer and the new law simply codifies that warped view. Cuomo was also in such a hurry to get it passed that it includes no exception for police. DEP alludes slightly to the real reason this bill was slammed through the legislature. Cuomo plans to run for President and he wanted a signature accomplishment to wave like a red flag before the most extreme elements in the Democratic Presidential primaries. The flip side of that equation is that his overall approval rating in NY has fallen 11 points since the bill went through.
It is beyond my comprehension why anyone with the slightest regard for their individual right to own a gun (or eat salt, or consume beef, or buy a jumbo soda or keep a bare majority of their income) would live in NYC or NY state. I'm also curious to see how long Remington maintains its operations in Ilion. I know they would be more than welcome in Texas if they choose to relocate -- just as long as its employees swear not to vote like the majority of New Yorkers once they arrive here.

Cuomo’s Gun Package was ill conceived for political purposes, not properly vetted,and trashed state constitutional rights. There is no way it can withstand scrutiny as reasonable Law.

Already Upstate NY Law Enforcement has declared non-enforcement of the Law and two legal challenges are presently in progress. If the present law isn’t dump constitutionally, the required amendments will vitiate the act into nothing. Supporters of this gun control are screaming massive civil disobedience already. Shows what happens when knee jerk responses to crisis comes out by politicians who only want to use the crisis for their own benefit. These are not leaders; they're opportunists who don't give a crap about saving anyone's life except their own political life.

As bad as this Gun Control Act is, what really has N’Yorkers disturbed is Cuomo and Democratic Progressives destroyed the democratic process and any fleeting Trust they may have had. It’s now all about whose vision and policy will be embraced instead of cohesive New York State or USA.

Instead of a melting pot there’s a bowl of salad with each part retaining its own ID in the bowl.

The hatred I see is exactly what Obama’s preacher talked about when he damned the USA. No sharing. It’s all taking. Shirts and Skins.

It breaks my heart.

I, as a resident of New York State, used to like Herr Cuomo. Simply because he, for better or worse, makes an effort to DO SOMETHING. For example balancing a budget on time. As opposed to the bulk of the state legislature (excluding several North Country representatives).
Fascist leaders gain popular support by DOING SOMETHING, good or bad, while the other lawmakers sit aside wringing their hands. Its a short ride backward to 1930.
This "gun law" is a method of DOING SOMETHING that will not cost the state in tax dollars. It will cost the citizenry at the retail level. while the more effective approach of enforcing existing laws and overhauling the mental health shortfalls, such as monitoring whacko ex cons, would cost the state budget a huge amount. Already, the frantic hoarding of ammo and guns of all stripes has reached levels that beggar description.
Do not think that this business is not coming your way. This "gun control" hysteria will spread faster thru the federal states than eurasian milfoil.
Meanwhile, I love New York State.

Have you noticed how the original 13 states seem to have total disregard for the Constitution thanks to their ignorant governors?

None of my friends are going to register anything with the Feds. Not now, not ever, never! Of course, if one of my friends that I have knowen for 30 years wants to buy a gun from me, I'll run right down to the local gun dealer, pay a $ fee and be sure to have his background checked. Yes, I'm sure this will happen. Local law enforcement won't be enforcing anything unconstitutional.

MG

I think that I echo the majority of New Yorkers when I state that it will be a frigid day in hell before we comply with this monstrosity. Law enforcement is lukewarm regarding any enforcement to put it mildly. For a while New Yorkers were feeling pretty kindly toward emperor Cuomo because due to his strong-arming of the many truly shameful thugs in our state legislature. He has now made that feeling evaporate and his approval rating is said to have dropped 15 points already. Dann: very good point! Most of the New Yorkers who actually support this travesty hail from New York CITY, which may as well be another planet compared to rest of the state, and is inhabited my many alien life forms. The rest of our large and truly beautiful state is overrun with hunters and fishermen, who now will be the sworn enemies of our dimwitted governor and his contemptible pack of doormat followers. Color us all outraged!

Let's hear it for our Republic! In a Democracy (especially a direct democracy), any piece of junk law could be enacted very quickly. Mob Rule. Scare the the people enough, or promise enough, and they will vote something into law. The strength of our Republic is that there are safe-guards against such overreactions; though they must be protected and enforced. Personally...no one knows what firearms I own except for select family members. I want it to stay that way.

As a 62 year old NYer I am not surprised by Andrew the limp. I survived Mario the Winchester Model 12 banner and am not surprised by where we are today. We upstaters are sold down the river every day by our politicos. I just can't believe that I haven't left this state. Andrew the limp has lost 15% points, from 74% to 59%. Urban Democrats are a scourge that we in NY can't overcome.

Seems like the staties in NY have better things to do then make Cuomo's anti-guns wishes come through, BUT what do I know;I'm a GUN NUT.
Hey WA, I know you are not a fan of the New 200gr Hornady .35 Whelen load, but they shoot well out of my 700(right at 1.5 groups)gonna take this load for Black Bear, and WT Deer...stay tuned for (hopefully) game pics!

Buckhunter: If you claim to "hate" New York, you obviously do not know much about it. It is one of the VERY best states for outdoor recreation, hunting and fishing,with lots of very wild country, millions of acres of public lands, spectacular natural beauty and just about anything an outdoor guy would love. You SHOULD hate the New York State government, which is heavily stocked with various rejects from civil society and corrupt jackasses,..and we really are ashamed of it. As you might expect, a large proportion if these lowly organisms are from in and around New York City, which the rest of us will take no blame for and who poison politics here. We all keep hoping that NYC will secede from the rest of the state. But alas, so far no luck,...sigh!

To Mary Reinertsen: Thanks for contributing. However, kindly check the spelling of my name. Also, a nation can't be "an anarchy." It can be in a state of anarchy, which pretty closely describes us.

I did not say that some people will not obey the new law. I said that most people, or the majority of people, won't obey it, just as most people paid no attention to Prohibition, or to the laws against smoking marijuana, or driving 55 mph on highways designed for 70 mph.

Giving the NYS legislature high marks for "trying" is absurd. If a doctor botched an operation, but tried hard, would you give him an A for effort? If your lawyer did a rotten job and you ended up in prison, would you shake his hand as they led you away? It's only in politics, where there is so much failure; where the laws--even when passed--have so little effect on the problems they are supposed to solve, that people are exempt from the need to do things right.

Mary, Mary, Mary... our country was born when a bunch of fellas in Lexington, Massachusetts disobeyed when told to surrender their arms. And the notion that "doing something" is preferable to doing nothing is just silly. If I'm deathly ill, I don't want my doctor lopping off limbs just to "do something." Our politicians would do a much better job for the country if they heeded the classic conservative advice of, "Don't just do something, stand there!"

Cuomo 's gun control laws are only the first step of his plan to launch himself into the whitehouse. He also plans to stop drunk driving by making it illegal to own a car with a gas tank over 5 gallons, he will reduce health care costs by making it illegal to get sick. He will reduce unemployment by requiring all residents to get a job. He doesn't want to take away our guns, he just wants to make it illegal for us to own them. As voters, we really need to vote for the best, and brightest from now on.

Mr. Tom Warner,

My "I hate New York" comment was only a parody of the 80's slogan "I love New York" which the state spent millions advertising all over the country.

If the truth be told, I do not hate anything or anybody. Just not how I was raised and on the number of occasions I have visited New York and the Big Apple, I found the people to be very friendly. Which is surprising considering hardly any of them have ever sat in a treestand.

The NY state government is no different than any other government around the US. They are not elected base on brains but who the best liar is. What would one expect with such a system?

first cudos to PB and DP us lefties in a right handed world are the only ones in our right mind. respect responsibility and rights are not emphasized enough today.Politicians find it far easier to pass a feel good law that sounds good to an under informed populace than to actually address the underlying problems like poverty and drug gangs in the cities they represent. and by the way if the want a gun free state,they can go to north korea

Not all lefties are in their right mind. Obama is a leftie.

It is absurd how the constitution is being used for toilet paper by the current administration. I say come and get them...

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Don't underestimate the appeal of criminalizing your political opponents.

you forgot to mention the very real possibility that if he does try to enforce this, and the person who's door the police are knocking on, is not going to let the police take his gun, and actually follows thru with the saying "they can have my gun when they pry it from my cold dead hands". then he may have injured or dead police officers, and at least one dead family member who had no previous record. one of those would be bad enough. but if the number climbed, then what? i hate to say it, but then MAYBE politicians would have a reality check about the resolve of gun owners in this country. or, in the case of some of them, maybe not. i KNOW some gun grabbers feel that disarming the public is worth whatever it takes. and if we do not hand them over like good little boys and girls, then we get what we deserve. but, how will that help the families of all the dead. both civilians and police / military (it may come to that). i also know that some will stick to that creed, and there will be killings. to many. i REALLY hope the gun grabbers think it all the way through before it gets that far.

Dave, you are a man of great command of the language and you have a patient, concise, and logical explanation of the facts that even someone like Mary should be able to understand.

Tom Warner, I have always wanted to hunt the ADK's for deer. I came dangerously close this Fall. Two things kept me away. 1) Deer archery season is at the same time of bear rifle season. I like to hunt from the ground and being mistaken for a bear is not how I want to go out of this life. 2) The State of New York requires a test and mandatory attendance to a hunters education class. While I am not opposed to this it seemed to much of a hassle.

My buddy also hurt his back and was not up to making the trip may have weighed in a little also.

Maybe next year...

New York State; Hundreds of miles of ocean front beaches. A thousand mountain lakes and rivers. A pristine state park the size of Vermont. Home of world class Medical, Entertainment and Cultural Centers. Diverse Ethnic Neighborhoods and Dining.
SO I GUESS WE HAD TO SCREW IT UP WITH A FEW WACKO POLITICAL PERSONALITIES.

Buckhunter: Please don't worry too much about being mistaken for a bear. There is so much really remote and wild country in the Adirondacks that its easy to find places where you will probably never see another hunter. I own a remote log cabin in one of those places and have for over 50 years. It can only be reached by canoe. I wish that I were in a position to invite you there! The deer population is rather low in much of the park and hunting can be pretty slow. Even so, I feel incredibly blessed to live in a state with the biggest wilderness east of the Mississippi. Once you are in the woods, lowly pests like cuomo seem like a minor irritant, sort of like a tick or leech, and to be removed as quickly as possible.

@somethingclever;

My apologies, you are correct, SC and GA are still the land of the free! PA, maybe, but please be careful.

The NRA reports that when they met with VP Biden they brought up the fact that we as a country need to focus on the laws that we currently have and enforce them. Biden argued, "We don't have the manpower to enforce evry little law on the book!" And yet the liberal agenda keeps adding new laws based on emotions rather than facts. In addition, the gun-rights people must now spend their time fighting irrational thinking instead of fighting for the removal of gun free zones which create soft targets for socialpaths! FACT! New laws do not protect our children. When will there be a rational solution to this issue? Stop using American children as bait and get us a solution for this problem. The NRA offered a rational solution and of course they were ridiculed by the liberal politicians and main-stream media. Thank God for alternative media outlets (and blogs, forums)that educate and promote rational thinking!

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Mike Diehl, somebody down-voted your excellent comment, and I'd love to know why. Jury nullification is a beautiful thing. Maybe the two sweetest words to a liberty-loving person's ears.

How can you speak of corruption in government without mentioning the state of New Jersey?
Back in 2009, 44 state officials were rounded up at once on charges of corruption in office and carted off in a school bus!

New York and NJ have the toughest gun laws in the nation.
It hasn't deterred crime, yet continues to keep law abiding citizens from access to handguns. Permits are limited and approval held up for months. Residents are left unarmed and when the criminals attack people call 911.
Unfortunately by the time police get there...they are picking up the pieces. Good people lose again.

The law is probably not perfect but we need better gun laws. No self respecting hunter goes out with an AR unless "misting" pdogs. Let's offer some reasonable gun laws back and be a part of the conversation, rather than be left out with crazy Lapierre and Nugent.

The Democrats of Minn are preparing to pass very similar legislation to you good folks in the "Land of 10,000 Lakes". I hope you like 7 round Mags because that's what's being proposed. You guys had better get busy or you'll be in the same spot we unfortunate NYers are in.

I am watching an ad for the local news right now and their lead story is going to be that there are full scale military weapons being made in middle Tennessee right now and they are available to the public and what is the government going to do about it? Better order your .50 BMG Barrett today...

Well said David. Yes, Governor Coumo II is just like his dad. Crafty, sly, slick, quick witted, bully, and generally an SOB. Remember this guy ran his dad's gubernatorial campaigns a few years back.

Hopefully slick will have his law properly overturned in the courts. That is all that New Yorkers can hope for right know.

And please remember who must have been behind the devious campaign trick he claims he never used against Mayor Koch during his father's gubernatorial run , "Vote For Coumo Not the Homo." Now Andrew is that nice?

That is what we are dealing with.

DEP, your summary of the NY fiasco fits nicely for the whole country. Cheers!

Another thing Cuomo forgot was that, as he said to my gun club five months ago, if the state passed microstamping or the ban of "assault weapons", the President of Remington Arms would pick up the entire operation and move to a friendlier state. He said they already had a moving plan put together - they'd just have to pull it out and execute it.

He may be waiting to so how far this actually gets, but the loss of jobs, taxes, money in the economy in the area of Ilion, NY would be disastrous - just about the time Cuomo would be gearing up for the next US
Presidential campaign to begin!

Oh, also - the law is so stupidly written that COPS can't have more than 7 rounds in their guns either! Cuomo said he'd put through a change to correct that, but will it pass without amendments?!?! We'll see!

I hope the rest of the country is sitting up and taking notice. Too many NY residents were betting that it was all talk, and now we're stuck with unpleasant choices, some of which come with potential felony charges. @DP, this will cost us taxpayers plenty. Andyboy had to put $34M into the 2013 budget for the new website where we are supposed to register assault weapons. And much of the rest falls to the counties, including re-applying for your pistol permit every 5 years. The county clerks will have to hire more people to handle the workload, and this in a state where the law says your application must be processed in 6 months, but routinely take more than 12.
You're right about the corruption, but what do you expect from the state that gave us the Sullivan Laws - check wikipedia, that's how we got our ridiculous permit system in the first place.

WAM,
Oh I agree that the vast majority of politicians today are inflicted with the disease knowitallitis, followed closely by makeeveryonelovemeoma.
Ultimately, we get what we elect, and until foks of all stripes start paying closer attention to whom they elect we'll be stuck with what we got.
Good luck on the line, I'm confident you'll do better powdering the clays than Barack. Isn't Camp David in Maryland? ;)
couldn't resist.

WAM,
I know you swore off backlash and blowback, but I really thought better of you than to fall for the conspiracy/subjugation schtick. Defenseless against who?
Figure some govt suit will force you into the salt mines for your daily bowl of gruel do you?
Oh boy.

WAM,
I fancy myself fairly proficient in historical maters.
The fact is, nobody's going to be enslaved, nobody is going to be under the thumb of some all powerful govt as long as we have elections every couple years.
Now, we may indeed keep a steady stream of corrupt crooks heading D.C.'s way, but that's a fault of the un-informed, those who don't pay attention to whom they're electing or choose so and so because he's a snappy dresser.

eventual voter fraud?
Please elaborate.
I'm sure you're not making reference to the GOP's latest poorly masked attempt to rig elections.

Funny, when Cuomo's former in-laws were killing, drowning, raping and maiming women...he never tightened the laws on what they did. He went with the political flow.
The AR killing in New York was done by a man the State of New York let out of prison after convicting him of beating his little grandmother to death with a hammer. Nice liberal move,just like Rahm in Chicago..always coddling the crimianls while persecuting the law abiding.
The one thing that will greatly reduce gun crime is "Life and a Day" for felons in possession and the "Death Penalty" for murder one with a gun. Then you police the insane. The Democrats will never go for that, bbecause it's good sound management and solves the problem without taxing and persecuting those who speak out against thugs like Cuomo.