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January 15, 2013

New Rifle Review: Weatherby Vanguard Series 2 Backcountry

By The Editors

This new rifle from Weatherby weighs in at only 6 3/4 pounds. It was designed, as its name suggests, for long treks in the backcountry. All the metal on the gun is cerakoted. It comes with a 2-stage adjustable trigger and Weatherby guarantees it will shoot sub MOA groups.

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from Tim Platt wrote 1 year 13 weeks ago

Nice to see you in a suit and tie at the SHOT Show again. The last Weatherby you tested did not fare so well. I believe it was in the magazine article about great guns for under $500. Did you discuss this with the Weatherby reps? I was appalled at the results, as they did not even meet the sub MOA guarantee.

I am also surprised at your comments on the recoil... this from a man who states that "good shooting begins with the acceptance of pain and great shooting begins with the love of pain."

Your humble admirer... Doc Ralph

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from Ontario Honker ... wrote 1 year 13 weeks ago

For $1,400? Sorry. I wouldn't pay that much for a real fancy gun. This is certainly nothing fancy. In fact, it is purposely something quite the opposite. Sub-MOA? And that is so important for a brush gun? Why? I'm sure I'll get burned with minuses but I think this gun is an expensive oxymoron. At least it is offered in some useful calibers and not just Roy's own stuff.

Now, let me see what David had to say.

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from jay wrote 1 year 13 weeks ago

I'm a big fan of the vanguard s2, but I can't get excited about this rifle. The thing that makes the vanguard s2 special is its great value for a well made rifle. I'm sure this rifle is well made, but for $1400 there are much better options out there. Heck, an off the shelf Tikka T3 or Browning rifle weigh in under 7 pounds and both can be had for half the price of what is suppose to be a value line rifle. The way I see it, if your going to drop $1400 on a weatherby rifle it better have Mark V stamped on the receiver.

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from fordman155 wrote 1 year 13 weeks ago

For practically the same amount of money, I can get a Mark V Ultra Light. I know the S2 Vangaurds are good, I have one, but this price tag is too much, especially with the big brother Mark V at nearly the same coin.

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from TAM9492 wrote 1 year 13 weeks ago

Sounded more like an advertisement than a review.

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from Ralph the Rifleman wrote 1 year 13 weeks ago

Well, I guess a "reasonable" cost is relative to one's income.(and if you think the damn rifle is worth the price?!)
Either way, it probably is an accurate rifle, and if you are like me..I buy my guns with intent to keep them FOREVER. So $1400 for a light weight,foul weather rifle,with a MOA(or less) guarantee;Sounds pretty darn good to me!

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from Ralph the Rifleman wrote 1 year 13 weeks ago

ps-Dave what caliber did you get your rifle in?

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 1 year 13 weeks ago

Vanguard for $1500? I think not. Get a Mark V for that $$$!

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from Ontario Honker ... wrote 1 year 13 weeks ago

Go ahead and slap my arse with red ink but I just don't see the necessity of SUB-MOA in a short-barrel brush gun. Why is it so critical to drive pinheads at a 100 yards when one is shooting at 200+ lb animals, not pinheads. Someone please enlighten me.

After watching the video clip I got the distinct impression Mr. Petzal was being a little sarcastic at the end. Hard to tell with him sometimes.

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from coachsjike wrote 1 year 13 weeks ago

dave
some of these guns from the SHOT show are awesome but the sad part is that how many of these new guns will i never be allowed to own? thanks to the wonderful politicians of new york state and new jersey? the NRA has vowed that this would never happen and yet it did. worse part is that you would think this would make national news but it is rarely heard of thanks to the democratic party controlling what is being reported.

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from PbHead wrote 1 year 13 weeks ago

Dave, excellent presentation. If I had not just blown my gun fund on an antique Marlin I would buy the Weatherby.

I have been blessed to have been exposed to the influence of some outstanding teachers. You are one of the best.

PS I know it is range day but what about the supply and quality of Booth Babes?

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from Steve in Virginia wrote 1 year 13 weeks ago

I agree with the earlier comment -- this sounds more like a commercial than a review. I also agree that there are probably as good or better options available that have a better combination of price/value.

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from aferraro wrote 1 year 13 weeks ago

Weatherby has been making some sweet rifles for years that provided great bang for the buck- among the best values out there. Now they are crossing over to a price point where there is some serious competition. You could get a Sako Finnlight or Tikka and they are approaching Nosler prices.

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from briarfire007 wrote 1 year 13 weeks ago

LOL DP! I thought the same thing about that particular caliber/weight combo..ouch.

I agree with what several have said above. The Vanguard Series 2 is an appealing line b/c of the great price on a solid rifle. If I were going to spend this type of cash, I wouldn't do it on a riflemaker's "economy" line.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 1 year 13 weeks ago

I agree with David. It would take a manly man to shoot that rifle well @ 7.5 pounds with scope in .300 Roy. Sounds like a "Hold my beer and watch this" kind of moment. Mine weighs 9.5 pounds loaded and it ain't no cup cake.... My Mark V lightweight in .30-06 weighs in under 7 pounds and it is not all that fun to shoot even with 165 gr loads. A joy to carry however.

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from Robert Dawson wrote 1 year 13 weeks ago

I do miss my Espresso when I'm outdoors. But I'll make do with instant coffee. BTW, nice rifle! What other chambering does it come in?

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from Jim in Mo wrote 1 year 13 weeks ago

At that weight it's more of a mountain rifle, say a .284 type. jmo

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from Tim Platt wrote 1 year 13 weeks ago

Now that everyone else has said it, I have to agree. Why buy a Vanguard when you can get a Mark V for the same price? If the Vanguard is better they need to market it as such, even if it is made in Japan... and put some fancy a$$ wood on it too for that price.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 1 year 13 weeks ago

Nice rifle, but I would not trade one of my Mark V's for any two Vanguards, well maybe my beat up 7mm Weatherby....

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from hengst wrote 1 year 12 weeks ago

Accumark is the way to go once you get in to this price range but it does have a $700 higher mrsp at his time. I have no problems carrying Mark V 300 wby in the Colorado mountains. Save weight somewhere else like gear, shoes, or midsection.

I like a rifle with a little heft to it, seems to help if you want a little stability for a longer poke. (may be in my head)

I love my 300 wby accumark but in all honesty you could get a vanguard S2, take it to a smith for cerakoating and be left with a few hundred bucks to go towards a nice scope. You could also just get the S2 stainless. Both options are only about 1lb heavier and they shoot like the dickens. I shot a friends S2 300 wby and immediatly bought one in 257 because it shoots so well, I now have 2 257's

I wish WBY would add a few calibers to the s2 lineup such as 7mm WBY, 270 WBY or make a 6.5 WBY as opposed to making something that will not be a big seller.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 1 year 12 weeks ago

Hengst,
I like my Mark V .300 Wby, but would not want it to weigh under 9 pounds. A Fibermark in standard caliber .270 or .30-06 actually weighs less. My Lightweight Sporter does.

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from jay wrote 1 year 13 weeks ago

I'm a big fan of the vanguard s2, but I can't get excited about this rifle. The thing that makes the vanguard s2 special is its great value for a well made rifle. I'm sure this rifle is well made, but for $1400 there are much better options out there. Heck, an off the shelf Tikka T3 or Browning rifle weigh in under 7 pounds and both can be had for half the price of what is suppose to be a value line rifle. The way I see it, if your going to drop $1400 on a weatherby rifle it better have Mark V stamped on the receiver.

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from fordman155 wrote 1 year 13 weeks ago

For practically the same amount of money, I can get a Mark V Ultra Light. I know the S2 Vangaurds are good, I have one, but this price tag is too much, especially with the big brother Mark V at nearly the same coin.

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from Ralph the Rifleman wrote 1 year 13 weeks ago

Well, I guess a "reasonable" cost is relative to one's income.(and if you think the damn rifle is worth the price?!)
Either way, it probably is an accurate rifle, and if you are like me..I buy my guns with intent to keep them FOREVER. So $1400 for a light weight,foul weather rifle,with a MOA(or less) guarantee;Sounds pretty darn good to me!

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from coachsjike wrote 1 year 13 weeks ago

dave
some of these guns from the SHOT show are awesome but the sad part is that how many of these new guns will i never be allowed to own? thanks to the wonderful politicians of new york state and new jersey? the NRA has vowed that this would never happen and yet it did. worse part is that you would think this would make national news but it is rarely heard of thanks to the democratic party controlling what is being reported.

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from briarfire007 wrote 1 year 13 weeks ago

LOL DP! I thought the same thing about that particular caliber/weight combo..ouch.

I agree with what several have said above. The Vanguard Series 2 is an appealing line b/c of the great price on a solid rifle. If I were going to spend this type of cash, I wouldn't do it on a riflemaker's "economy" line.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 1 year 13 weeks ago

I agree with David. It would take a manly man to shoot that rifle well @ 7.5 pounds with scope in .300 Roy. Sounds like a "Hold my beer and watch this" kind of moment. Mine weighs 9.5 pounds loaded and it ain't no cup cake.... My Mark V lightweight in .30-06 weighs in under 7 pounds and it is not all that fun to shoot even with 165 gr loads. A joy to carry however.

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from Tim Platt wrote 1 year 13 weeks ago

Nice to see you in a suit and tie at the SHOT Show again. The last Weatherby you tested did not fare so well. I believe it was in the magazine article about great guns for under $500. Did you discuss this with the Weatherby reps? I was appalled at the results, as they did not even meet the sub MOA guarantee.

I am also surprised at your comments on the recoil... this from a man who states that "good shooting begins with the acceptance of pain and great shooting begins with the love of pain."

Your humble admirer... Doc Ralph

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from TAM9492 wrote 1 year 13 weeks ago

Sounded more like an advertisement than a review.

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from Ralph the Rifleman wrote 1 year 13 weeks ago

ps-Dave what caliber did you get your rifle in?

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 1 year 13 weeks ago

Vanguard for $1500? I think not. Get a Mark V for that $$$!

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from PbHead wrote 1 year 13 weeks ago

Dave, excellent presentation. If I had not just blown my gun fund on an antique Marlin I would buy the Weatherby.

I have been blessed to have been exposed to the influence of some outstanding teachers. You are one of the best.

PS I know it is range day but what about the supply and quality of Booth Babes?

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from Steve in Virginia wrote 1 year 13 weeks ago

I agree with the earlier comment -- this sounds more like a commercial than a review. I also agree that there are probably as good or better options available that have a better combination of price/value.

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from aferraro wrote 1 year 13 weeks ago

Weatherby has been making some sweet rifles for years that provided great bang for the buck- among the best values out there. Now they are crossing over to a price point where there is some serious competition. You could get a Sako Finnlight or Tikka and they are approaching Nosler prices.

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from Robert Dawson wrote 1 year 13 weeks ago

I do miss my Espresso when I'm outdoors. But I'll make do with instant coffee. BTW, nice rifle! What other chambering does it come in?

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from Tim Platt wrote 1 year 13 weeks ago

Now that everyone else has said it, I have to agree. Why buy a Vanguard when you can get a Mark V for the same price? If the Vanguard is better they need to market it as such, even if it is made in Japan... and put some fancy a$$ wood on it too for that price.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 1 year 13 weeks ago

Nice rifle, but I would not trade one of my Mark V's for any two Vanguards, well maybe my beat up 7mm Weatherby....

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from hengst wrote 1 year 12 weeks ago

Accumark is the way to go once you get in to this price range but it does have a $700 higher mrsp at his time. I have no problems carrying Mark V 300 wby in the Colorado mountains. Save weight somewhere else like gear, shoes, or midsection.

I like a rifle with a little heft to it, seems to help if you want a little stability for a longer poke. (may be in my head)

I love my 300 wby accumark but in all honesty you could get a vanguard S2, take it to a smith for cerakoating and be left with a few hundred bucks to go towards a nice scope. You could also just get the S2 stainless. Both options are only about 1lb heavier and they shoot like the dickens. I shot a friends S2 300 wby and immediatly bought one in 257 because it shoots so well, I now have 2 257's

I wish WBY would add a few calibers to the s2 lineup such as 7mm WBY, 270 WBY or make a 6.5 WBY as opposed to making something that will not be a big seller.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 1 year 12 weeks ago

Hengst,
I like my Mark V .300 Wby, but would not want it to weigh under 9 pounds. A Fibermark in standard caliber .270 or .30-06 actually weighs less. My Lightweight Sporter does.

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from Jim in Mo wrote 1 year 13 weeks ago

At that weight it's more of a mountain rifle, say a .284 type. jmo

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from Ontario Honker ... wrote 1 year 13 weeks ago

For $1,400? Sorry. I wouldn't pay that much for a real fancy gun. This is certainly nothing fancy. In fact, it is purposely something quite the opposite. Sub-MOA? And that is so important for a brush gun? Why? I'm sure I'll get burned with minuses but I think this gun is an expensive oxymoron. At least it is offered in some useful calibers and not just Roy's own stuff.

Now, let me see what David had to say.

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from Ontario Honker ... wrote 1 year 13 weeks ago

Go ahead and slap my arse with red ink but I just don't see the necessity of SUB-MOA in a short-barrel brush gun. Why is it so critical to drive pinheads at a 100 yards when one is shooting at 200+ lb animals, not pinheads. Someone please enlighten me.

After watching the video clip I got the distinct impression Mr. Petzal was being a little sarcastic at the end. Hard to tell with him sometimes.

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