



February 25, 2013
Shotgun Shooting: Using a Double Gun for Pheasant Hunting
By Phil Bourjaily
A couple of times each fall I shoot double guns on pheasant hunts. I usually break out my Ruger Gold Label a time or two and I get to shoot some other people’s doubles, too.* I am always reminded when I take a double hunting that shooting one is different from shooting O/Us and single barrel guns.
Most doubles – except the old American guns which have way too much drop – are stocked a little straighter than O/Us and repeaters. This is in part because theoretically a side by side shoots slightly lower than does an O/U. Doubles are stocked straighter to compensate, with the result being, when you mount a double you see more rib and, of course, you see that wide expanse of barrels. To me it’s like looking up a two-lane road. My first thought it always “how can anyone miss with one of these?”
Of course you can miss with them – at least I can – and like most misses with shotguns the root cause is the same: looking at the barrels, not at the bird.
To me the main difference between doubles and O/Us and single barrels is that when I shoot a double well I am almost completely unaware of the barrels, where with other guns, I see the rib as a blur in my peripheral vision. With the straighter stock I feel like am almost looking over the barrels of a double, not down them as you might with an O/U or repeater. When I shoot a double gun well, it becomes, as Field & Stream’s Gene Hill once wrote, “just a place to put two shells” and the real shooting is done with my eyes and hands working together as if the gun wasn’t there at all.
*That is an Aya 4/53 in the picture. No, it is not mine. Yes, I wish it was.
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Personally, I do not care for a straight stocked gun. Ducking my head is not something I would want to get in the habit doing, and probably why I see 19 O/U's for everfy one double. Matter of fact I have not seen a side by side in a long, long time.
I've shot SxS and O/U's in the Uplands I never noticed much difference in the sight picture in the field. Probably cause I'm focused on the bird. Also, I've yet to shoot under hunting conditions a SxS that wasn't a 50-year old design, not the 100-year old doubles, but Winchester 23's, Fox-Steven models types made in the 1950-60's. Cheap guns, but seemed well stocked.
Those old doubles had fixed chokes, and I wouldn't want to shoot full and modified. I would think you'd have to get use to the technique of "floating the bird" and that isn't easy if you cover birds with your other guns.
Since I was very young, I've always loved doubles.My dad and uncles started using autos only when they really jumped into deer and waterfowl hunting, though their father stuck with his Parker and L.C. I think some people wrongly have it stuck in their heads they won't shoot well with a double.I also had high hopes when Mr. Ruger set out to make a American sxs at a reachable cost. There were very few (I saw one) available in my area. Mark-1, I still see a few of those 23's around, one fellow deer hunts with his.Good post, Mr. Phil.
It's my shotgun of choice in the uplands. Let's just say I have more than a dozen...Purdey, WC Scott, Merkel, Arietta, RBL, etc....and it's like choosing a beautiful Blonde over a Beautiful Redhead or Brunette..it's a matter of mood and taste.
IMHO they are the English Setter of shotguns, they are the Waxed Cotton jacket vs. Gore-Tex...the Bamboo Fly Rod over graphite...they have a soul. :)
I've always leaned toward the O/U more than for pumps, auto loaders or double sxs's. However my brother after years of shooting an O/U and occassionally an auto loader has become quiet taken by SXS's. To each his own I guess. Perhaps that is why they make so many different guns ?
I think I now know why I tend to shoot over with a double.
I like a double for hunting grouse. I have a SKB 200E 20 ga. that was my dad's. But for pheasants, I'll take a Winchester Model 12. You won't be reloading it when a big, fat, pheasant gets up right in front of you!
MG
After many many years of shooting single barrel or O/U s i find that taking out one of my old doubles comes with a problem at least for me that is. when i look down that airplane runway wide set of barrels, I see the right side barrel (I shoot left handed with both eyes open) have you or anyone else expirienced this and is there a way to correct it???
just a guess but I would think your stock needs to be "cast"
And I don't care for that wide, airplane runway appearance. The focus should be on the target, and your eyes not drawn to the barrel.
I grew up shooting SXS shotguns once I graduated beyond my first single shot and my dad was reasonably sure I could be trusted to return his doubles in unchewed condition. Since the ones I was shooting were already about half a century old the stocks weren't as straight although the drop was not extreme. I don't know whether it's just familiarity, nostalgia, or reality, but to me nothing handles as well or points so naturally at rising birds as a well-balanced SXS. You do feel like you're shooting with your hands and your eyes rather than the gun. I'm also a traditionalist in most things, and it always struck me that quail and pheasants should be shot with a SXS because they merit it. Better, they should be shot behind a good dog by someone with a SXS who's wearing tweed and toting a leather shell bag.
It appears to me that most people who shoot S X S guns do so by preference and rarely bother with anything else. I love the double barreled guns but frankly never could hit very well with any of them regardless of stock configuration. My loss apparently since there are so many really neat doubles made both past and present.
It's a naustalgia thing rather than a practical approach to better shooting. There is a contention being that the eyes, and the hands move as one, and the fact that a double has a "splinter" forearm where the very thin forearm places the hand right at the barrels, and moves with the sight plane making for more accurate shooting, but in reality the old, straight stocks with little drop don't fit most gunner's eye. My contention is that the very wide barrel plane can cause the eye to sight down the barrels rather than focus on the target. If it were such a good accurate way to place the barrels you'd see them used in trap, and especially sporting clays open competitions...you see virtually NONE but you do see a lot of )/U's being used.
I agree with Phil, I think it is easier to focus on the bird when the rib is a lower profile on a s/s.
"This is in part because theoretically a side by side shoots slightly lower than does an O/U. Doubles are stocked straighter to compensate, with the result being, when you mount a double you see more rib and, of course, you see that wide expanse of barrels."
I don't understand how a side by side shoots any higher than any other gun.
I was under the impression that most sxs were touched a bit high because the brits used them for driven shoots, and that gave the high incoming birds a bit more built in lead.
Don't understand how they shoot higher? If a straight stock places your eyes high over the barrels you will shoot high. What did I miss?
Eh, find one that fits you and burn a couple cases of shells. You'll forget about sight picture after you really learn the gun and the rhythm of the swing. Shotgun shooting, like good traditional archery, should be about reflex and instinct.
I usually hunt pheasants with a parker s/s and a 28ga. o/u. I usually hit what I'm aiming at, but i do miss on occasion. The main reason I miss is because I pull my head of the gun and try to watch the bird fold, not because of the different sighting plain.
Having grown up shooting a Browning A-5 as my personal teenage and young adult shotgun, I was enamored with a Baker 16 SXS that a friend had. It was great fun to shoot at doves and quail, compared to the Browning. I now own several doubles, O/U's and SXS's. Shooting the O/U's with a single barrel sighting plane is second nature while "hitting" with the SXS's usually requires a couple of practice shots. However I did get a 15 bird dove limit using one of my 20 ga. SXS's with a "box" + 2 last fall. Not 'floaters' coming in to water at a S'th Texas tank, but 'low passers' heading to feed in the early morning.
I have shot a SXS all my life and [maybe it's habit] but I will not shoot an O/U by choice. I just love the lines, fit and tradition of a double. That's just an old guy's choice, no offense to the youngsters.
For most you need to put a Morgan Adujstable Pad on the butt of those straight stocked buns so you can bring the gun to cheek, and have your eye over the barrel.
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It's my shotgun of choice in the uplands. Let's just say I have more than a dozen...Purdey, WC Scott, Merkel, Arietta, RBL, etc....and it's like choosing a beautiful Blonde over a Beautiful Redhead or Brunette..it's a matter of mood and taste.
IMHO they are the English Setter of shotguns, they are the Waxed Cotton jacket vs. Gore-Tex...the Bamboo Fly Rod over graphite...they have a soul. :)
Eh, find one that fits you and burn a couple cases of shells. You'll forget about sight picture after you really learn the gun and the rhythm of the swing. Shotgun shooting, like good traditional archery, should be about reflex and instinct.
I have shot a SXS all my life and [maybe it's habit] but I will not shoot an O/U by choice. I just love the lines, fit and tradition of a double. That's just an old guy's choice, no offense to the youngsters.
Personally, I do not care for a straight stocked gun. Ducking my head is not something I would want to get in the habit doing, and probably why I see 19 O/U's for everfy one double. Matter of fact I have not seen a side by side in a long, long time.
I've shot SxS and O/U's in the Uplands I never noticed much difference in the sight picture in the field. Probably cause I'm focused on the bird. Also, I've yet to shoot under hunting conditions a SxS that wasn't a 50-year old design, not the 100-year old doubles, but Winchester 23's, Fox-Steven models types made in the 1950-60's. Cheap guns, but seemed well stocked.
Those old doubles had fixed chokes, and I wouldn't want to shoot full and modified. I would think you'd have to get use to the technique of "floating the bird" and that isn't easy if you cover birds with your other guns.
Since I was very young, I've always loved doubles.My dad and uncles started using autos only when they really jumped into deer and waterfowl hunting, though their father stuck with his Parker and L.C. I think some people wrongly have it stuck in their heads they won't shoot well with a double.I also had high hopes when Mr. Ruger set out to make a American sxs at a reachable cost. There were very few (I saw one) available in my area. Mark-1, I still see a few of those 23's around, one fellow deer hunts with his.Good post, Mr. Phil.
I've always leaned toward the O/U more than for pumps, auto loaders or double sxs's. However my brother after years of shooting an O/U and occassionally an auto loader has become quiet taken by SXS's. To each his own I guess. Perhaps that is why they make so many different guns ?
I think I now know why I tend to shoot over with a double.
I like a double for hunting grouse. I have a SKB 200E 20 ga. that was my dad's. But for pheasants, I'll take a Winchester Model 12. You won't be reloading it when a big, fat, pheasant gets up right in front of you!
MG
After many many years of shooting single barrel or O/U s i find that taking out one of my old doubles comes with a problem at least for me that is. when i look down that airplane runway wide set of barrels, I see the right side barrel (I shoot left handed with both eyes open) have you or anyone else expirienced this and is there a way to correct it???
just a guess but I would think your stock needs to be "cast"
And I don't care for that wide, airplane runway appearance. The focus should be on the target, and your eyes not drawn to the barrel.
I grew up shooting SXS shotguns once I graduated beyond my first single shot and my dad was reasonably sure I could be trusted to return his doubles in unchewed condition. Since the ones I was shooting were already about half a century old the stocks weren't as straight although the drop was not extreme. I don't know whether it's just familiarity, nostalgia, or reality, but to me nothing handles as well or points so naturally at rising birds as a well-balanced SXS. You do feel like you're shooting with your hands and your eyes rather than the gun. I'm also a traditionalist in most things, and it always struck me that quail and pheasants should be shot with a SXS because they merit it. Better, they should be shot behind a good dog by someone with a SXS who's wearing tweed and toting a leather shell bag.
It appears to me that most people who shoot S X S guns do so by preference and rarely bother with anything else. I love the double barreled guns but frankly never could hit very well with any of them regardless of stock configuration. My loss apparently since there are so many really neat doubles made both past and present.
It's a naustalgia thing rather than a practical approach to better shooting. There is a contention being that the eyes, and the hands move as one, and the fact that a double has a "splinter" forearm where the very thin forearm places the hand right at the barrels, and moves with the sight plane making for more accurate shooting, but in reality the old, straight stocks with little drop don't fit most gunner's eye. My contention is that the very wide barrel plane can cause the eye to sight down the barrels rather than focus on the target. If it were such a good accurate way to place the barrels you'd see them used in trap, and especially sporting clays open competitions...you see virtually NONE but you do see a lot of )/U's being used.
I agree with Phil, I think it is easier to focus on the bird when the rib is a lower profile on a s/s.
"This is in part because theoretically a side by side shoots slightly lower than does an O/U. Doubles are stocked straighter to compensate, with the result being, when you mount a double you see more rib and, of course, you see that wide expanse of barrels."
I don't understand how a side by side shoots any higher than any other gun.
I was under the impression that most sxs were touched a bit high because the brits used them for driven shoots, and that gave the high incoming birds a bit more built in lead.
Don't understand how they shoot higher? If a straight stock places your eyes high over the barrels you will shoot high. What did I miss?
I usually hunt pheasants with a parker s/s and a 28ga. o/u. I usually hit what I'm aiming at, but i do miss on occasion. The main reason I miss is because I pull my head of the gun and try to watch the bird fold, not because of the different sighting plain.
Having grown up shooting a Browning A-5 as my personal teenage and young adult shotgun, I was enamored with a Baker 16 SXS that a friend had. It was great fun to shoot at doves and quail, compared to the Browning. I now own several doubles, O/U's and SXS's. Shooting the O/U's with a single barrel sighting plane is second nature while "hitting" with the SXS's usually requires a couple of practice shots. However I did get a 15 bird dove limit using one of my 20 ga. SXS's with a "box" + 2 last fall. Not 'floaters' coming in to water at a S'th Texas tank, but 'low passers' heading to feed in the early morning.
For most you need to put a Morgan Adujstable Pad on the butt of those straight stocked buns so you can bring the gun to cheek, and have your eye over the barrel.
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