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May 29, 2013

Handloading Advice: Signs and Causes of Excess Pressure

By David E. Petzal

In my post of May 13, I touched briefly on high pressure, undesirability of, and I think it’s worthwhile to elaborate on that. As a rule, if you manage to blow up a gun, you are guilty of such horrendous negligence that you should not have owned a gun in the first place. The corollary to that is that most modern rifles are enormously strong, so if you do manage to generate enough force to shatter one, the results will be dire.

If you’re a handloader, excess pressure is not something that sneaks up from behind you in the night. There are several warning signs that you are getting in over your head. First is cratered primers, although this is not infallible. Second is primers that are flattened, or are bashed so flat that they fill the primer pocket. Third is difficult extraction. Fourth is case head expansion that you can measure with a micrometer. Usually, you get a couple of these symptoms simultaneously.

The first indication that you’ve Gone Too Far is almost always a blown primer. When this happens, you’ll see smoke coming out the breech of the rifle. There’s a good chance that you’ll be unable to open the bolt and that if you can, you may be unable to extract the case. You may be able to get it out by putting a few drops of oil down the muzzle and standing the rifle on its butt so the oil drools down and lubricates the stuck case. Then pound it out with a ramrod. You’ll note that the primer pocket is scorched and that the blown primer is rattling around in the action somewhere. Find it and remove it.

If you’d really like to get in trouble with no warning at all, use the wrong powder. If, for example, your handload calls for 70 grains of ultra-slow-burning RelodeR 25 and you pick up the canister of fast-burning RelodeR 7 and load 70 grains of it, something very interesting is going to happen when you pull the trigger and—with no prior notice. You can also throw the wrong charge by relying on your memory. Never rely on your memory. Make notes, and follow them.

Odd as it may seem, you can detonate a rifle by throwing half charges, or greatly reduced charges of slow-burning powder in big cases. The term I’ve heard for this is “Secondary Pressure Excursions,” and the best explanation for it is as follows:

When a partly-full case lies horizontally in the chamber the powder lies along the lower part of the case, and when the primer flame enters the shell it skims along the surface of the charge, causing it to ignite very slowly. This generates enough force to move the bullet out of the case neck and into the rifling, but not enough to make it clear the barrel. As the bullet is getting nicely stuck in the bore, the charge continues to burn, but because the bullet is not going anywhere, pressure rises exponentially and the rifle comes apart.

This may or may not be a perfect description, but the fact remains that guns have blown with no other plausible explanation. Whenever I load a cartridge with slow-burning powder, I check the case after throwing the charge to see that it’s as full as it should be.

For those of you who would like to read more on this, and on exploding rifles in general, there are two excellent chapters in Volume Two of P.O. Ackley’s Handbook for Shooters and Reloaders. In the meantime pay attention to what you’re doing.

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from idahoguy101 wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

In my experience I've known of more people "blowing up" their pistols by bad handloading than destroying rifles. Is it just me? What have others noticed?

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from duckcreekdick wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

And if you cannot open the action after your lapse in reloading judgement, don't make things worse by beating on the bolt handle with a 2X4. Swallow your pride, take the rifle to your gunsmith and tell him what your dumb brother-in-law did to your rifle. Chances are good the gunsmith can put things aright without further damage.

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from FirstBubba wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

Knew a fellow who decided he didn't need to buy a .357! He had a Lee Loader,, a can of Herco 2400 and a .38 Spl.
Hey! Look in the loading manual! A magnum charge will fit in a Spl case!
An absolute pristine "Chief Special" bought the farm! Luckily a minor laceration on the trigger hand was the limit of the injuries. ...other than a severely bruised ego! LOL!

One of my little reloading "quirks"! I refuse to use ANY powder charge that doesn't occupy more than half of case capacity! Double charges show up real quick and no "short charge" surprises!

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from Safado wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

I have not blown primers but have had a few that cratered. Have also experienced the dreaded difficult bolt lift and associated hard-to-extraxt case. I avoid this by charging with powder one case at a time immediately before bullet seating to avoid double chanrges. I also weigh each and every powder charge. I look at the primer after every shot at the range looking for pressure issues. I also carry a spare shellholder to the range to see if there is any case head expansion. When loading I only load one powder at a time and keep that bottle on the bench so that there is no confusion as to which powder I am using. I also don't take breaks when re-loading so as not to lose my place.With handloading I have found it wise to try to anticipate where a screw-up can happen and try to avoid it by not taking shortcuts. I assembly line all reloading tasks; decapping, tumbling, inspection, full length case forming and priming. But when it comes to powder charging and bullet seating those are done one case -at-a-time!

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from buckstopper wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

I have had case necks split on my .223 more often that any other cases. That is why I use a case tumbler for cleaning and inspect cases carefully. Speaking of distractions, I learn long time ago to not reload with a friend. Had a squib round in a revolver due to no powder in the case. If I needed another shot I would have been in trouble. Shouldn't have left the powder charging up to someone else. I have thought about getting a progressive loader but I'm just too cheap to spend the money for one. I just don't shoot as much as I used to or I have too many different calipers to choose from nowadays. With the price of ammo going through the roof, I hate to shoot it after I made it!

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from Treadmark wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

Primers seem to be the first thing to look for. But overpressure can be seen in bulges and out of perameter base measurements. I recently bought 1000 once fired brass. They came from a (unknown) firearms manutacturer. They were all painted red on the base. I was told that they were all "over pressure" loads. The factory uses them to test their firearms. So far, I've reloaded 400 of them and rejected 20 for overpressure signs. The first signs were them not going into the case holder for depriming. These same cases wouldn't hold a primer (stretched out of shape). I measured all the deminsions and found varying deminsions, up to 20/1000 out on the base deminsions. There were no outward signs of overpressure. The primers looked fine and the cases looke fine. All 1000 needed trimming about 1/1000 (which, of course, is a little long for once fired cases) So, sometimes, you will not see anything on the outside that screams at you. It may be the little suttle things that need a micrometer to identify.
The next test will be when I fire the reloaded rounds. Lets see if there are any failures or problems in a "second firing".
Another note: These were all Lake City 5.56. They all had a military crimp. They appear to be heavier (stout) metal, but I don't have a way to measure it. I wonder if these were loaded at the factory, as special hi pressure test rounds. Anyway, the ones I loaded look goood and measure good on all their deminsions.

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from mikeb wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

from mikeb wrote 4 days 1 hour ago

Dave,
I've used Walker Game Ears for about 15 years. They've sense changed hands and parts are becoming hard to get. Like you, I won't hunt without the best hearing protection for what little hearing I have left. Thank you for mentioning Magnum Ear. I never heard of them, but I plan on getting a set.
The Game Ears are mainly behind the ear. I'm thinking more about in the ear. Are you wearing in the ear, or behind the ear. I'm curious what style you're using, and why you picked that one.
Thanks,
mikeb

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from deadeyedick wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

Never assume that what works in one gun will work in another ! Never force a bolt closed on a tight handload. Idahoguy; Pistol cartridges are easy to double charge and I think that may be the reason for blown pistols. Some powders must not ever be loaded under what the manuals call for.

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from Harold wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

AAANNNDDD...Never use hand loads from someone else! My father and I learned that the hard way many years ago.

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from kudukid wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

If you manage to "shatter" a modern bolt action rifle - High number '03 Springfield, Arisaka, 1917, 98 Mauser and later, you are in pressures above 145,000 PSI absolute.

High number '03s have been tested to 125,000 PSI CUP without showing more than a few thousandths setback of the locking lugs/shoulders, and some none at all.

You will get blown primers long before reaching such pressure levels. Recently got a blown primer with factory Remington 270 130 gr. SPCL. Remington replaced the box of ammo.

In all my years, never heard of anyone managing to destroy one of these "modern" bolt actions without actually trying to do so. Handguns are a different matter entirely.

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from kudukid wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

The danger in a blown primer/ruptured case head is getting a face full of hot gas. The 98 Mauser is not immune to this - even the ones with the uncut inside collar.

This escaping hot gas will singe your eyebrows and eyelashes but becomes especially damaging if bits of molten brass or action grit are picked up and blown into your eyes at high speed. This is why you should always wear safety glasses when shooting. That includes the various rimfires.

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from deadeyedick wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

I agree with you Harold up to a point I would say never use handloaded ammo made by someone you do know. I handload ammo for a few friends but they all know me very well. I do not handload ammo for people that I do not know personnaly

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from deadeyedick wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

Should say DO NOT KNOW sorry. Hey mikeb your in the wrong blog but for what it's worth the newer digital walker product are a whole lot better but they do have their drawbacks. Perhaps the F&S Magazine could do a gear test on which ones work best

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from Gary Griffiths wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

Hey, guys! A better explanation of high-pressure spikes with so-called light loads is, because the powder lies, as you said, along the bottom of the cartridge case, the flash from the primer travels unencumbered over the top of the charge, causing it to burn much more rapidly. Modern smokeless powder, especially slow-burning powder, is intended to burn progressively, starting from the rear surface (by the flash hole), burning steadily as the front of the charge, like the bullet, travels down the bore of the firearm. With a half-empty case, the primer flash ignites the entire top surface of the powder charge, causing a tremendous pressure spike.

Back in the day, we were taught that if you want to use a light charge, place a piece of kapok on top of the powder charge to keep it in place at the rear of the cartridge.

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from Safado wrote 2 weeks 21 hours ago

I do not use powder charges that are lower than the minimum charge. If I want a so-called "light load" I use a reduced recoil load. These normally consist of Trail Boss or IMR (I think)4759. There are a few other reduced recoil powders but my experience is with these two.

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from Carney wrote 2 weeks 20 hours ago

Dave, your knowledge of the topic is thorough... Did you learn that on your own or from Ackley's book?!?!

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 2 weeks 20 hours ago

If I wanted a reduced recoil load, I would go buy a .243 Win, but I won't......

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from Del in KS wrote 2 weeks 15 hours ago

Absolutely no exceptions I do not load ammo for other people. Deadeye, if a gun blows they will blame you. Maybe even sue you. Don't take a chance for anyone..

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from cb bob wrote 2 weeks 3 hours ago

The only time I let other people shoot my hand loads is when they are shooting my rifle, and I've already tested that load in that gun, and I know it's safe.

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from jhjimbo wrote 2 weeks 1 hour ago

I thought when I started reloading 40+ years ago I was going to save 50% on ammo, instead I have found I shoot twice as much.

Never reload for a friend, get him into reloading instead.
Never shoot someone else reloaded ammo, unless they are a reputable re-manufacture company.

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from 99explorer wrote 1 week 6 days ago

Another tip: Do not leave powder in the plastic hoppers of reloading powder-measure dispensers overnight. If the powder has a high nitroglycerine content, like Unique, Bullseye and similar double-based powders, there will be a chemical interaction where it comes into contact with the plastic surface, usually made from copolymer styrene, rendering the powder inert.

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from Safado wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

I have not blown primers but have had a few that cratered. Have also experienced the dreaded difficult bolt lift and associated hard-to-extraxt case. I avoid this by charging with powder one case at a time immediately before bullet seating to avoid double chanrges. I also weigh each and every powder charge. I look at the primer after every shot at the range looking for pressure issues. I also carry a spare shellholder to the range to see if there is any case head expansion. When loading I only load one powder at a time and keep that bottle on the bench so that there is no confusion as to which powder I am using. I also don't take breaks when re-loading so as not to lose my place.With handloading I have found it wise to try to anticipate where a screw-up can happen and try to avoid it by not taking shortcuts. I assembly line all reloading tasks; decapping, tumbling, inspection, full length case forming and priming. But when it comes to powder charging and bullet seating those are done one case -at-a-time!

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from idahoguy101 wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

In my experience I've known of more people "blowing up" their pistols by bad handloading than destroying rifles. Is it just me? What have others noticed?

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from FirstBubba wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

Knew a fellow who decided he didn't need to buy a .357! He had a Lee Loader,, a can of Herco 2400 and a .38 Spl.
Hey! Look in the loading manual! A magnum charge will fit in a Spl case!
An absolute pristine "Chief Special" bought the farm! Luckily a minor laceration on the trigger hand was the limit of the injuries. ...other than a severely bruised ego! LOL!

One of my little reloading "quirks"! I refuse to use ANY powder charge that doesn't occupy more than half of case capacity! Double charges show up real quick and no "short charge" surprises!

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 2 weeks 20 hours ago

If I wanted a reduced recoil load, I would go buy a .243 Win, but I won't......

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from duckcreekdick wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

And if you cannot open the action after your lapse in reloading judgement, don't make things worse by beating on the bolt handle with a 2X4. Swallow your pride, take the rifle to your gunsmith and tell him what your dumb brother-in-law did to your rifle. Chances are good the gunsmith can put things aright without further damage.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from buckstopper wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

I have had case necks split on my .223 more often that any other cases. That is why I use a case tumbler for cleaning and inspect cases carefully. Speaking of distractions, I learn long time ago to not reload with a friend. Had a squib round in a revolver due to no powder in the case. If I needed another shot I would have been in trouble. Shouldn't have left the powder charging up to someone else. I have thought about getting a progressive loader but I'm just too cheap to spend the money for one. I just don't shoot as much as I used to or I have too many different calipers to choose from nowadays. With the price of ammo going through the roof, I hate to shoot it after I made it!

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from deadeyedick wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

Never assume that what works in one gun will work in another ! Never force a bolt closed on a tight handload. Idahoguy; Pistol cartridges are easy to double charge and I think that may be the reason for blown pistols. Some powders must not ever be loaded under what the manuals call for.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from kudukid wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

The danger in a blown primer/ruptured case head is getting a face full of hot gas. The 98 Mauser is not immune to this - even the ones with the uncut inside collar.

This escaping hot gas will singe your eyebrows and eyelashes but becomes especially damaging if bits of molten brass or action grit are picked up and blown into your eyes at high speed. This is why you should always wear safety glasses when shooting. That includes the various rimfires.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Del in KS wrote 2 weeks 15 hours ago

Absolutely no exceptions I do not load ammo for other people. Deadeye, if a gun blows they will blame you. Maybe even sue you. Don't take a chance for anyone..

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Treadmark wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

Primers seem to be the first thing to look for. But overpressure can be seen in bulges and out of perameter base measurements. I recently bought 1000 once fired brass. They came from a (unknown) firearms manutacturer. They were all painted red on the base. I was told that they were all "over pressure" loads. The factory uses them to test their firearms. So far, I've reloaded 400 of them and rejected 20 for overpressure signs. The first signs were them not going into the case holder for depriming. These same cases wouldn't hold a primer (stretched out of shape). I measured all the deminsions and found varying deminsions, up to 20/1000 out on the base deminsions. There were no outward signs of overpressure. The primers looked fine and the cases looke fine. All 1000 needed trimming about 1/1000 (which, of course, is a little long for once fired cases) So, sometimes, you will not see anything on the outside that screams at you. It may be the little suttle things that need a micrometer to identify.
The next test will be when I fire the reloaded rounds. Lets see if there are any failures or problems in a "second firing".
Another note: These were all Lake City 5.56. They all had a military crimp. They appear to be heavier (stout) metal, but I don't have a way to measure it. I wonder if these were loaded at the factory, as special hi pressure test rounds. Anyway, the ones I loaded look goood and measure good on all their deminsions.

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from mikeb wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

from mikeb wrote 4 days 1 hour ago

Dave,
I've used Walker Game Ears for about 15 years. They've sense changed hands and parts are becoming hard to get. Like you, I won't hunt without the best hearing protection for what little hearing I have left. Thank you for mentioning Magnum Ear. I never heard of them, but I plan on getting a set.
The Game Ears are mainly behind the ear. I'm thinking more about in the ear. Are you wearing in the ear, or behind the ear. I'm curious what style you're using, and why you picked that one.
Thanks,
mikeb

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from Harold wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

AAANNNDDD...Never use hand loads from someone else! My father and I learned that the hard way many years ago.

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from kudukid wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

If you manage to "shatter" a modern bolt action rifle - High number '03 Springfield, Arisaka, 1917, 98 Mauser and later, you are in pressures above 145,000 PSI absolute.

High number '03s have been tested to 125,000 PSI CUP without showing more than a few thousandths setback of the locking lugs/shoulders, and some none at all.

You will get blown primers long before reaching such pressure levels. Recently got a blown primer with factory Remington 270 130 gr. SPCL. Remington replaced the box of ammo.

In all my years, never heard of anyone managing to destroy one of these "modern" bolt actions without actually trying to do so. Handguns are a different matter entirely.

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from deadeyedick wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

I agree with you Harold up to a point I would say never use handloaded ammo made by someone you do know. I handload ammo for a few friends but they all know me very well. I do not handload ammo for people that I do not know personnaly

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from deadeyedick wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

Should say DO NOT KNOW sorry. Hey mikeb your in the wrong blog but for what it's worth the newer digital walker product are a whole lot better but they do have their drawbacks. Perhaps the F&S Magazine could do a gear test on which ones work best

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from Gary Griffiths wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

Hey, guys! A better explanation of high-pressure spikes with so-called light loads is, because the powder lies, as you said, along the bottom of the cartridge case, the flash from the primer travels unencumbered over the top of the charge, causing it to burn much more rapidly. Modern smokeless powder, especially slow-burning powder, is intended to burn progressively, starting from the rear surface (by the flash hole), burning steadily as the front of the charge, like the bullet, travels down the bore of the firearm. With a half-empty case, the primer flash ignites the entire top surface of the powder charge, causing a tremendous pressure spike.

Back in the day, we were taught that if you want to use a light charge, place a piece of kapok on top of the powder charge to keep it in place at the rear of the cartridge.

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from Safado wrote 2 weeks 21 hours ago

I do not use powder charges that are lower than the minimum charge. If I want a so-called "light load" I use a reduced recoil load. These normally consist of Trail Boss or IMR (I think)4759. There are a few other reduced recoil powders but my experience is with these two.

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from Carney wrote 2 weeks 20 hours ago

Dave, your knowledge of the topic is thorough... Did you learn that on your own or from Ackley's book?!?!

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from cb bob wrote 2 weeks 3 hours ago

The only time I let other people shoot my hand loads is when they are shooting my rifle, and I've already tested that load in that gun, and I know it's safe.

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from jhjimbo wrote 2 weeks 1 hour ago

I thought when I started reloading 40+ years ago I was going to save 50% on ammo, instead I have found I shoot twice as much.

Never reload for a friend, get him into reloading instead.
Never shoot someone else reloaded ammo, unless they are a reputable re-manufacture company.

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from 99explorer wrote 1 week 6 days ago

Another tip: Do not leave powder in the plastic hoppers of reloading powder-measure dispensers overnight. If the powder has a high nitroglycerine content, like Unique, Bullseye and similar double-based powders, there will be a chemical interaction where it comes into contact with the plastic surface, usually made from copolymer styrene, rendering the powder inert.

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