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August 18, 2010

Fly Casting at 500 Frames Per Second

By Tim Romano

That's a lot of frames. Regular video is anywhere from 24 to 60 frames a second. 500 frames is seriously high speed stuff.

I would be flat out embarrassed to see my cast at 500 frames a second. Not Jason Borger, though.  He was Brad Pitt's casting double in a River Runs Through It, and one of the best casters in the business. Borger teamed up with Grunde Lovoll Ph.D to get this amazing video, which clearly shows the multiple parts of the cast.  From the backcast to loop formation. For all you casting wonks out there many more of these videos can be seen at here (url below) with different parts of the cast broken down in super slow-mo. 

http://fishfliesandwater.com/casting-mending/500-frame-per-second-fly-ca...

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from ckRich wrote 1 year 40 weeks ago

My cast at 500 frames per second would be a disaster. Although, seeing what the back of my head looks like as a large streamer slams into it would be interesting...

Thanks for the link

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from countitandone wrote 1 year 40 weeks ago

The highlighted link came up just fine but the centerpiece video did not. I'll try again later tonight.

The Borger/Lovoll video is I'm sure worth the wait, so, thank you.

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from Jason Borger wrote 1 year 40 weeks ago

To avoid an confusion, I should mention that the caster in the video shown is actually a friend of mine (Mathias Lilleheim, a superb Norwegian caster), not me. Grunde and I did do an article on casting using that cast (and another) for the data. The article, plus some recent posts on additional casting data (and videos) can be found on my blog.

I do have some pretty cool 200fps, 3-dimensional, motion-capture video (like you'd see with film or videogame technology) of me casting that I'll send over to Tim shortly. Might as well keep the "casting geek" side of FlyTalk engaged!

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from Sayfu wrote 1 year 40 weeks ago

Interesting in one respect. He shoots the line high on the backcast, lays off his hand, and then shoots the line high on the forecast. This is the same recommendation that the Leland Co. San Fran Bay Area Club caster recommended. Steve Rajeff sends the line high on the backcast, and then angles the cast down slightly on the forecast saying that there is less wind resistance in an angled down forecast then an angled up forecast. Steve sure won lots of casting championships, but it appears the angled up cast is now recommended for distance.? Interesting enough the big guy from Salt Lake City that beat Rajeff by a matter of inches, and won the distance casting for 3 straight years, I believe, sends the line high on the backcast then drops down at the end of his backcast, and sends a high OPEN loop on the forward cast, not very technically correct looking, but what it does is straighten out on the forward cast getting all the distance from the line. He doesn't shoot very much line, but holds a great deal of line in the air...the shooters line tends to pile up at the end costing the loss of some distance.

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from Sayfu wrote 1 year 39 weeks ago

Think I could have been wrong on thinking Rajeff made his forward cast on an angle down. I just watched a U-tube on his winning casts, and his angle was up..his arm appears to be coming down, but the release is up. He also doesn't appear to drift like some other casters do. He looks at his backcast, and waits for it to unfold, and drop some, then he sends the forward cast on an angle UP.

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from ckRich wrote 1 year 40 weeks ago

My cast at 500 frames per second would be a disaster. Although, seeing what the back of my head looks like as a large streamer slams into it would be interesting...

Thanks for the link

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from countitandone wrote 1 year 40 weeks ago

The highlighted link came up just fine but the centerpiece video did not. I'll try again later tonight.

The Borger/Lovoll video is I'm sure worth the wait, so, thank you.

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from Jason Borger wrote 1 year 40 weeks ago

To avoid an confusion, I should mention that the caster in the video shown is actually a friend of mine (Mathias Lilleheim, a superb Norwegian caster), not me. Grunde and I did do an article on casting using that cast (and another) for the data. The article, plus some recent posts on additional casting data (and videos) can be found on my blog.

I do have some pretty cool 200fps, 3-dimensional, motion-capture video (like you'd see with film or videogame technology) of me casting that I'll send over to Tim shortly. Might as well keep the "casting geek" side of FlyTalk engaged!

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from Sayfu wrote 1 year 40 weeks ago

Interesting in one respect. He shoots the line high on the backcast, lays off his hand, and then shoots the line high on the forecast. This is the same recommendation that the Leland Co. San Fran Bay Area Club caster recommended. Steve Rajeff sends the line high on the backcast, and then angles the cast down slightly on the forecast saying that there is less wind resistance in an angled down forecast then an angled up forecast. Steve sure won lots of casting championships, but it appears the angled up cast is now recommended for distance.? Interesting enough the big guy from Salt Lake City that beat Rajeff by a matter of inches, and won the distance casting for 3 straight years, I believe, sends the line high on the backcast then drops down at the end of his backcast, and sends a high OPEN loop on the forward cast, not very technically correct looking, but what it does is straighten out on the forward cast getting all the distance from the line. He doesn't shoot very much line, but holds a great deal of line in the air...the shooters line tends to pile up at the end costing the loss of some distance.

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from Sayfu wrote 1 year 39 weeks ago

Think I could have been wrong on thinking Rajeff made his forward cast on an angle down. I just watched a U-tube on his winning casts, and his angle was up..his arm appears to be coming down, but the release is up. He also doesn't appear to drift like some other casters do. He looks at his backcast, and waits for it to unfold, and drop some, then he sends the forward cast on an angle UP.

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