Agreed, lawyers and politicians have been much more detrimental to hunting and fishing than any looney tune activist.

Quit giving them press coverage, good or bad it keeps them in front of people. Maybe you (F&S) should not mention their name, of course they are not going away because of that, concentrate on our cause, hunting, fishing and all things related. F&S as a magazine and now including the web site have done more good for animals and their habitat.
Hey Ingrid, see you, well actually your leg at the barbeque, is it going to be marinated? Really like to see which sick bastard you picked from your group to do the cooking, did your lawyers get an ok on that one.

What's worse than PETA in my book are the real estate developers....and the politico's that would allow them..
a chance to cut and drain our habitat from one end of this state to the other....and replace it with blacktop, malls, and condo's.

Dumbledore?

Oy Vey!!! i dont even speak yiddish but that is all that comes to mind.

You nailed it, Chad. I pretty closely monitor public opinion on hunting and what these groups are saying, and I can tell you PETA has virtually no impact, and HSUS is devastating - the words and ideas they quietly slip into the American consciousness absolutely color what non-hunters think of us. Like this guy I met Saturday night. He's actually taking hunter safety and planning to start hunting, but he still thinks most hunters don't eat what they kill - that they collect their trophy and leave the meat lying in the field. Why does he think that? He doesn't know any hunters - so whatever's in the public consciousness is all he has to form his opinion.

While it's true Newkirk needs help. Her truly insane antics and those of her followers shouldn't be downplayed. There are a lot of these types with lots of money living in Hollywood, and they hire "the ones who wear suits, act normal and carry briefcases containing legal documents".
Two of your 'real' problems Chad, habitat loss and climate change, are aided by these nuts who buy up as much land as possible only to prevent hunting and fishing on it and tirelessly promote the falsity that man's industry actually has an impact on global weather.
They're dangerous because they market well. People say 'I'd never do something that crazy!! but it is wrong to eat meat' or 'That lady is nuts, but killing animals is wrong.'
Never underestimate an adversary, naked or not.

Poor soul, how degrading and tacky, and she probably has no idea. Score one for our side.

I'm with Jim in MO give me something to make a Longrifle ball pouch. And I want it now.

For my garden I could request her face for the scare crow. But the EPA would consider it hazardous material and it would disintegrate anything and everything that looked at it. Does Medusa come to mind!

Big O,
There are other organizations that proclaim the same thing. Their subtle message is "we can compromise". That's what they want! Us, me and you, to give in and give up rights little by little, but not them.
Glad other people noticed that.

I can tell you who is worse than PETA...
Let me see... yes they wear suits... breifcase- Check. Legal (and at least in part, unconstitutional) documents-Check. Suave and smooth talking~ like none other baby.
Yet, I won't give them credit for acting normal, as they are certainly "Batsh*t Crazy". Folks, the answer is both black and white... and I bet they BOTH eat beaver. If you haven't guessed yet...
Obama and Hellary! I bet Hillary would help dear old Ingrid right out of her skin and barbeque to boot! Like they say on Fried Green Tomatoes- "the secret's in the sauce..."
And to think, they were ELECTED... by our fellow Americans... we are in trouble...

I wonder if made into sanding disks how well it would work and how long?

She does look a bit rough!

You are correct about PeTA not really being a threat to our heritage but the same cannot be said about the Humane Society of the United States. They are one of the main threats to hunting and trapping today. For example, they are the main impetus behind the nearly 60 bills in 32 states that could affect your ability to hunt with dogs and to be a hobby breeder. They single handedly won the issue to ban dove hunting in Michigan in 2006. They were behind the end of trapping in numerous states. They are the main group trying to use the Endangered Species Act to adversely affect all hunting, fishing, and trapping in the north woods of Maine and Minnesota. They are also trying to end all hunting on the National Wildlife Refuge System through a dangerous lawsuit. The list goes on and on. They are a formidable foe with over 10 million members and well over $100 million in annual income. Don't sell them short. They are masters at the divide and conquer tactic - picking on sports that are enjoyed by smaller numbers of sportsmen and sportswomen. They are certainly the largest threat to certain types of hunting such as hunting with hounds, bear hunting, dove hunting, hunting on federal land, and trapping. Your challenges to hunting I agree with but you need to add HSUS high on that list.

Ugh. That's "encountered."

They are all crazy. Groups like that are also become a little extreme to deliver a point. I'll admit, I do get heated when I talk to one, but like you said, it is just a waste of time. We need to concentrate on the people who actually have the power to make life miserable for hunters... and do so without completely making a full of themselves.

Factory Farms, poachers, and close minded people.

but peta is bad too.

what a freakin retard, that doesnt even make sense. We should take her human burger and mix it in with hamburger and tell some stupid vegetarian its a soy burger.

You can look at this from three different perspectives.

1.) The PETA people are the unfit and based on Darwin's law need to be exterminated.
-or-
2.) The PETA people just follow their beliefs as far as we would. Here's a question, how far would you go to protect what you believe in? These people just go a little more extreme.
-or-
3.) We can just be ignorant and blame them for our faults (which some of us already do, and oddly enough, that stuff is what makes headlines for us).
Take your pick gentlemen.

Nate

I cracked up.