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February 25, 2010

Bestul: Illinois Owns the B&C Non-Typical Books

By Scott Bestul

The buck pictured here is a giant by anyone’s standards. Killed by Illinois bowhunter Shawn Bennett, the triple-drop tined monster reportedly scores 237” B&C. I have friends who are capable of looking at a photo like this and estimating the buck’s net/gross rank within a couple of inches. I, on the other hand, can barely get past my first reaction…Which is little more than a simple “Wow!”

My second reaction is only slightly more complex; What the heck is up with Illinois? The Prairie State does not just lead the B&C non-typical whitetail category, it owns it. Illinois hunters have entered 470 non-typs in the B&C books since the record book’s inception. Iowa is second with 385, Minnesota third with 361, Wisconsin sits 4th with 313, and Kansas is fifth with 218.

Impressive enough, but even more so when you look at recent trends. Minnesota, for example, has basically dropped from sight in the last two decades. Wisconsin produces great deer, but has had modern deer hunting far longer than Illinois. The Badger State  owes at least part of its ranking to deer shot long before Prairie State whitetailers even took to the fields.

Just for kicks, I checked out the B&C books for non-typ entries in the last five seasons. Here are the top five states: Illinois; 118, Iowa; 72, Missouri; 62, Wisconsin 62, Kansas; 53. Those numbers paint a pretty clear picture. You want a behemoth whitetail buck with all sorts of junk on his head? The Land of Lincoln is the place to be.

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from WhitetailHunter706 wrote 1 year 49 weeks ago

There are several nontypicals all over the midwest. I know of several nontypicals that hav not even been entered in the b&c because the people that shot them didnt care if it made it in or not and 80% of these mount there own deer heads so they never had the chance to even be heard of but heck congrats illinois... maybe a few of them will swim their way across the river so i can take a shot at them over here in indiana

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from WhitetailHunter706 wrote 1 year 49 weeks ago

but i guess a reason for that is that the midwest probably has the highest deer population, has the grains acorns and other deer foods, lots of woods with thick places for bucks to hide and just a lot better habitat for deer. but you wonder y the midwest doesnt hav the totals of car deer accidents of other states and thats because there are less people and less need for deer to move longer distances, which means less roads to cross, and most of us know where the deer are in our areas and so we know when to watch for deer crossing the roads. So its not strange to see these numbers in a mid west state.

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from ENO wrote 1 year 49 weeks ago

That's awesome. It would be interesting to see a comparison between Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Iowa and Kansas.
How much public land? How many hunters? How much privately managed land? How many deer licenses are sold? How many deer are killed in each season?

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from dneaster3 wrote 1 year 49 weeks ago

I love that Cabelas Outfitter Camo pattern!

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from jbird wrote 1 year 49 weeks ago

I wonder the same thing Mr. Bestul. Im right next door in Missouri, and we do have some mighty fine deer over here too, but boy does Illinois have the rep for bruisers! I honestly don't wish I lived there though. Just try to find a 'private' place to hunt in Illinois w/o a wad of cash these days.
Whitetailhunter706- I'm with ya', I hear of tons of monsters shot in my home state that never get entered into B&C. And I understand it, if I killed one, sure I'd like to see how many inches of rack it had total, but as far as 'submitting' it, deducting this and that, Nah, could care less. Record books are for people who care about what other people think, and thankfully, I ain't one of those kind of people. A trophy is a trophy in the eye of the hunter who took it. Whether it's a 6 pointer or a 26.
I honestly hope Missouri doesn't climb any higher on the list, or I'll surely lose my 'free' places to hunt. The wolves are already circling.

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from JOHN ANDERSON wrote 1 year 49 weeks ago

whooooowheee!!check out them handlebars!!!nicely done Mr Bennet!

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from Jacob A. Craig wrote 1 year 49 weeks ago

Im with Whitailhunter some of those big boys need to stumble over into Indiana. Indiana has big deer but nothing like illinois kansas or wisconson i love to see big deer and they are always from that area when im looking at them. I would be neat to see how many deer are harvested in those states and who has the better all around quality of deer produced not just the giants. It was nice to see that deer was a B & C free range deer to not one that had been farmed to be that big.

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from buckhunter wrote 1 year 49 weeks ago

I know there are a lot of booners never reported to B&C. Maybe part of the reason there are more booners in IL is in part due to the large commercialization of hunting there. It pays for the guides and farmers who lease their land to let you know they have big deer there.

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from jfgann66 wrote 1 year 49 weeks ago

WOW is an understatement I would need CPR if I took a deer of that size!

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from buckeyebob wrote 1 year 49 weeks ago

If I’m not mistaken don’t most of the giant non-typicals come from Ohio… I’m pretty sure we have had several 275” plus bucks in the past decade.

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from stickbow13 wrote 1 year 49 weeks ago

nice buck thats why i where a harness in the tree so if i would ever see something like that i'd fall out, nice buck bud

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from superbee wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

Buckhunter and Jbird are right, you have to know someone or be willing to shell out the cash to hunt deer in Illinois. That would be the reason I gave up on hunting deer. We also can't hunt deer with high powered rifles. We are limited to shot gun, muzzleloader, pistol and bow. So there are times when we pass on a shot on a nice buck because he isn't close enough for comfort. But if I dont get him this season he might be there next year, and bigger.

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from Big O wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

I heard that Ark. WAS pretty big in the Non-typ. books at one time too. Any truth to this ?

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from ksbowman wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

I live in Kansas and have seen a couple monster bucks. I've been hunting deer for 15 years and have never paid a dime to hunt. It is getting tougher to find a really good spot to get permission but it is not impossible. I have three wall hangers that have never been scored, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I could care less what they score, the experience of getting close enough to an animal to touch them is all I need. I've been known to shoot them with my camera instead just because I can.

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from BuckMaster4 wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

Nice Buck

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from jbird wrote 1 year 49 weeks ago

I wonder the same thing Mr. Bestul. Im right next door in Missouri, and we do have some mighty fine deer over here too, but boy does Illinois have the rep for bruisers! I honestly don't wish I lived there though. Just try to find a 'private' place to hunt in Illinois w/o a wad of cash these days.
Whitetailhunter706- I'm with ya', I hear of tons of monsters shot in my home state that never get entered into B&C. And I understand it, if I killed one, sure I'd like to see how many inches of rack it had total, but as far as 'submitting' it, deducting this and that, Nah, could care less. Record books are for people who care about what other people think, and thankfully, I ain't one of those kind of people. A trophy is a trophy in the eye of the hunter who took it. Whether it's a 6 pointer or a 26.
I honestly hope Missouri doesn't climb any higher on the list, or I'll surely lose my 'free' places to hunt. The wolves are already circling.

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from WhitetailHunter706 wrote 1 year 49 weeks ago

There are several nontypicals all over the midwest. I know of several nontypicals that hav not even been entered in the b&c because the people that shot them didnt care if it made it in or not and 80% of these mount there own deer heads so they never had the chance to even be heard of but heck congrats illinois... maybe a few of them will swim their way across the river so i can take a shot at them over here in indiana

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from WhitetailHunter706 wrote 1 year 49 weeks ago

but i guess a reason for that is that the midwest probably has the highest deer population, has the grains acorns and other deer foods, lots of woods with thick places for bucks to hide and just a lot better habitat for deer. but you wonder y the midwest doesnt hav the totals of car deer accidents of other states and thats because there are less people and less need for deer to move longer distances, which means less roads to cross, and most of us know where the deer are in our areas and so we know when to watch for deer crossing the roads. So its not strange to see these numbers in a mid west state.

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from ENO wrote 1 year 49 weeks ago

That's awesome. It would be interesting to see a comparison between Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Iowa and Kansas.
How much public land? How many hunters? How much privately managed land? How many deer licenses are sold? How many deer are killed in each season?

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from dneaster3 wrote 1 year 49 weeks ago

I love that Cabelas Outfitter Camo pattern!

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from JOHN ANDERSON wrote 1 year 49 weeks ago

whooooowheee!!check out them handlebars!!!nicely done Mr Bennet!

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from Jacob A. Craig wrote 1 year 49 weeks ago

Im with Whitailhunter some of those big boys need to stumble over into Indiana. Indiana has big deer but nothing like illinois kansas or wisconson i love to see big deer and they are always from that area when im looking at them. I would be neat to see how many deer are harvested in those states and who has the better all around quality of deer produced not just the giants. It was nice to see that deer was a B & C free range deer to not one that had been farmed to be that big.

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from buckhunter wrote 1 year 49 weeks ago

I know there are a lot of booners never reported to B&C. Maybe part of the reason there are more booners in IL is in part due to the large commercialization of hunting there. It pays for the guides and farmers who lease their land to let you know they have big deer there.

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from superbee wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

Buckhunter and Jbird are right, you have to know someone or be willing to shell out the cash to hunt deer in Illinois. That would be the reason I gave up on hunting deer. We also can't hunt deer with high powered rifles. We are limited to shot gun, muzzleloader, pistol and bow. So there are times when we pass on a shot on a nice buck because he isn't close enough for comfort. But if I dont get him this season he might be there next year, and bigger.

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from jfgann66 wrote 1 year 49 weeks ago

WOW is an understatement I would need CPR if I took a deer of that size!

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from buckeyebob wrote 1 year 49 weeks ago

If I’m not mistaken don’t most of the giant non-typicals come from Ohio… I’m pretty sure we have had several 275” plus bucks in the past decade.

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from stickbow13 wrote 1 year 49 weeks ago

nice buck thats why i where a harness in the tree so if i would ever see something like that i'd fall out, nice buck bud

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from Big O wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

I heard that Ark. WAS pretty big in the Non-typ. books at one time too. Any truth to this ?

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from ksbowman wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

I live in Kansas and have seen a couple monster bucks. I've been hunting deer for 15 years and have never paid a dime to hunt. It is getting tougher to find a really good spot to get permission but it is not impossible. I have three wall hangers that have never been scored, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I could care less what they score, the experience of getting close enough to an animal to touch them is all I need. I've been known to shoot them with my camera instead just because I can.

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from BuckMaster4 wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

Nice Buck

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