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February 24, 2010

Cardinal Closer Takes Shot at MLB Clubhouse Gun Ban

From the St. Louis Post-Dispatch:

Closer Ryan Franklin is among the large number of avid outdoorsmen on the Cardinals roster and on Saturday expressed disappointment in Major League Baseball's recent directive prohibiting certain weapons, including all firearms, from the clubhouse.
Clubs distributed the ban to players earlier this week.

"If you grew up around it, being in the outdoors and stuff, I was taught as a young kid how to respect firearms," Franklin said following Saturday's workout. "First of all, you don't get stupid with it. Always treat a gun like it's loaded. That's what I taught my son and daughters. There's a place for them."

Check out the full article and tell us your reaction.

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from Far Rider wrote 2 years 12 weeks ago

It's nice to hear that there are some professional athletes with good sense about guns. Mostly we just hear about NFL guys shooting themselves and NBA guys having a stand off in the locker room--both of which incidents probably helped incite this decision by the MLB. I'm always glad when people with some degree of fame voice their support for gun rights. The full article states that Franklin and other Cardinals--including Albert Pujols, currently the best player in the game, who has taken up archery--enjoy shooting sports. These athletes are looked up to by countless young kids, so it's a good thing that these guys have and show their good sense about guns.
Franklin is being vilified by posters on the STLToday website for "wanting to bring a gun to work." I believe guns should not be banned in any venue, and I can completely understand why he would want to take a gun to the clubhouse (target shooting or hunting after practice, among others). Kudos to Franklin for standing up and speaking out.

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from Jere Smith wrote 2 years 12 weeks ago

As long as a person is lot more intelligent than Plaxico or that idiot basketball player who shot his driver I have no problem with it.

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from blackdawgz wrote 2 years 12 weeks ago

I am 100% in favor of MLB's directive. Every time I do so much as handle a gun in my own space, I am blown away by our right to own one for sporting purposes or self defense. To carry one into the locker room or dugout is entirely inappropriate. Athletes have explosive tempers and often act on impulse, due to high levels of testosterone. Sometimes they need to be protected from themselves and each other. I seem to recall a recent incident where a baseball player lost it and hurled a baseball and severely injured a spectator...

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from blackdawgz wrote 2 years 12 weeks ago

I am 100% in favor of MLB's directive. Every time I do so much as handle a gun in my own space, I am blown away by our right to own one for sporting purposes or self defense. To carry one into the locker room or dugout is entirely inappropriate. Athletes have explosive tempers and often act on impulse, due to high levels of testosterone. Sometimes they need to be protected from themselves and each other. I seem to recall a recent incident where a baseball player lost it and hurled a baseball and severely injured a spectator...

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from thuroy wrote 2 years 12 weeks ago

blackdawgz, that is the same arguement that many anti-gun people say about people who own guns. If I lived in St. Louis and made millions of dollars I would want to be able to carry. I think that if you can legally own a gun and you are responsiable it should be your choice.

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from seadog wrote 2 years 12 weeks ago

blackdawgz, shouldn't a MLB player have the same rights as anyone else to carry for self defense? When an employer (any employer, not just MLB) takes away the right to carry on their premises, they essentially eliminate the employee's right to self defense.

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from Roscoe wrote 2 years 12 weeks ago

I'm all for gun right, but I'm a bigger fan of property rights. If your employer doesn't want you to carry on work property, then find another job that permits it or get used to it.

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from jcarlin wrote 2 years 12 weeks ago

Having testosterone being an argument against possession of firearms is a new one for me. How about hemoglobin? People all amped up after successfully incorporating oxygen into thier bloodstream could do anything!
Seriously, how unmanly would you like one to be before one can be deemed responsible?

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 2 years 12 weeks ago

Judging from some of the comments posted on the F&S site, there should be a screening for air-soft guns for some folks! LOL

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from dneaster3 wrote 2 years 12 weeks ago

what seadog says is exactly true. I live in a city with a serious crime problem, and I work in a rough area of that city. My employer-imposed gun restrictions are a daily concern. I must choose daily between risking risking my life in the face of a criminal, or risking my job and means to provide for my family. It is not a decision I wish on anyone else.

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from Jere Smith wrote 2 years 12 weeks ago

I lived in St. Louis for several years , my son lives there now We both neve r went to certain areas without a weapon it's not at all a safe city unless you are in Clayton or Ladue.

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from fisherman wrote 2 years 12 weeks ago

It's a sign of the times. I can see where the MLB is coming from with this, and I don't think anyone needs a gun in the clubhouse either. BUT, this is how ridiculous legislation gets rolling. Any ban is an infringement and a violation of the second amendment. St. Louis is pretty nasty...

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from cas0905 wrote 2 years 12 weeks ago

Here in NC if the owner doesnt want guns its against the law. Therefore i dont carry in those places I leave my gun in the truck and lock it up when i get back into my truck i grab my gun. I dont know the laws in St Louis but roids rage and guns dont sound like a mixture i want to see

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from steve182 wrote 2 years 12 weeks ago

I believe in this case the rules may be warranted. The club has a lot of money invested in these guys, most of whom are knuckleheads, and few of the guns are probably legal. Most pro athletes these days believe they are above the law and behave poorly regularly. Of course if you are a Concealed Carry License holder, i believe you should be allowed to carry anywhere, but the rest of these guys should leave the guns at home. We have all seen the numerous gun violations and mishaps by NFL and NBA players. Can MLB be far behind?

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from steve182 wrote 2 years 12 weeks ago

The link to the article didn't work for me, so i'm not sure if these guys are CCL holders. I was assuming these "rules" were to discourage the illegal carry of firearms as is so prevalent among pro athletes and idiot celebs alike.

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from 60256 wrote 2 years 12 weeks ago

Everybody looks at this post and goes "THEY CAN'T DO THAT!?!?!?!?!!!"......Well I am a gun owner, and I love guns and the second amendament, but I'm going to have to disagree with most people on this issue. The fact is that most professional althetes aren't responsible with firearms, and let's face it.........sports like football, most of the people came from some form of inner-city area where they carried firearms illegaly anyway.
I guess my main question is: What would somebody need a firearm in the locker room for? Self defense? Well, if an athlete is deranged enough to go shooting people in the locker room, then somebody is at fault for never reporting him in the process, because he obviously is not in the right state of mind.

Nate

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from shotgunlou wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

The argument for having a gun in the locker room ended the day two professional athletes pulled guns on each other. And for what...a debt. Nobody's life was in danger UNTIL they decided the money they wanted was more important than the lives of the other players in the locker room. I have a concealed carry permit and am a huge supporter of the 2A, however I also agree that if kids can't play nicely you have to take away their toys. The real question should be why were there guns in the clubhouse to begin with. When was the last time a ball player had to EVER pull a weapon in self defense in between the clubhouse and his vehicle? Let alone inside the clubhouse.

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from Sarge01 wrote 2 years 10 weeks ago

I believe there was a court case somewhere not to long ago about a company that had banned firearms on their property and I think that the court shot them down and allowed employees to have guns on the property. If anyone can remember please help me out with the details. I think I am right about the situation.

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from waketheflipup wrote 1 year 49 weeks ago

my personal opinion is....before everyone passes judgement on what is right or wrong maybe we all should take a step back and think about the RIGHTS of everyone.i personally am all for ccw and anything else that keeps you or your family safe.yes i do have ccw and so does my husband.i think since it was meant for all u.s. citizens to have FREEDOM then we should as idividuals have the right to carry or not.some day you may be in a situation that you wish you had your protection.

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from thuroy wrote 2 years 12 weeks ago

blackdawgz, that is the same arguement that many anti-gun people say about people who own guns. If I lived in St. Louis and made millions of dollars I would want to be able to carry. I think that if you can legally own a gun and you are responsiable it should be your choice.

+5 Good Comment? | | Report
from Far Rider wrote 2 years 12 weeks ago

It's nice to hear that there are some professional athletes with good sense about guns. Mostly we just hear about NFL guys shooting themselves and NBA guys having a stand off in the locker room--both of which incidents probably helped incite this decision by the MLB. I'm always glad when people with some degree of fame voice their support for gun rights. The full article states that Franklin and other Cardinals--including Albert Pujols, currently the best player in the game, who has taken up archery--enjoy shooting sports. These athletes are looked up to by countless young kids, so it's a good thing that these guys have and show their good sense about guns.
Franklin is being vilified by posters on the STLToday website for "wanting to bring a gun to work." I believe guns should not be banned in any venue, and I can completely understand why he would want to take a gun to the clubhouse (target shooting or hunting after practice, among others). Kudos to Franklin for standing up and speaking out.

+4 Good Comment? | | Report
from seadog wrote 2 years 12 weeks ago

blackdawgz, shouldn't a MLB player have the same rights as anyone else to carry for self defense? When an employer (any employer, not just MLB) takes away the right to carry on their premises, they essentially eliminate the employee's right to self defense.

+4 Good Comment? | | Report
from jcarlin wrote 2 years 12 weeks ago

Having testosterone being an argument against possession of firearms is a new one for me. How about hemoglobin? People all amped up after successfully incorporating oxygen into thier bloodstream could do anything!
Seriously, how unmanly would you like one to be before one can be deemed responsible?

+4 Good Comment? | | Report
from dneaster3 wrote 2 years 12 weeks ago

what seadog says is exactly true. I live in a city with a serious crime problem, and I work in a rough area of that city. My employer-imposed gun restrictions are a daily concern. I must choose daily between risking risking my life in the face of a criminal, or risking my job and means to provide for my family. It is not a decision I wish on anyone else.

+3 Good Comment? | | Report
from Jere Smith wrote 2 years 12 weeks ago

I lived in St. Louis for several years , my son lives there now We both neve r went to certain areas without a weapon it's not at all a safe city unless you are in Clayton or Ladue.

+3 Good Comment? | | Report
from Jere Smith wrote 2 years 12 weeks ago

As long as a person is lot more intelligent than Plaxico or that idiot basketball player who shot his driver I have no problem with it.

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from fisherman wrote 2 years 12 weeks ago

It's a sign of the times. I can see where the MLB is coming from with this, and I don't think anyone needs a gun in the clubhouse either. BUT, this is how ridiculous legislation gets rolling. Any ban is an infringement and a violation of the second amendment. St. Louis is pretty nasty...

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from cas0905 wrote 2 years 12 weeks ago

Here in NC if the owner doesnt want guns its against the law. Therefore i dont carry in those places I leave my gun in the truck and lock it up when i get back into my truck i grab my gun. I dont know the laws in St Louis but roids rage and guns dont sound like a mixture i want to see

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from WA Mtnhunter wrote 2 years 12 weeks ago

Judging from some of the comments posted on the F&S site, there should be a screening for air-soft guns for some folks! LOL

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from steve182 wrote 2 years 12 weeks ago

I believe in this case the rules may be warranted. The club has a lot of money invested in these guys, most of whom are knuckleheads, and few of the guns are probably legal. Most pro athletes these days believe they are above the law and behave poorly regularly. Of course if you are a Concealed Carry License holder, i believe you should be allowed to carry anywhere, but the rest of these guys should leave the guns at home. We have all seen the numerous gun violations and mishaps by NFL and NBA players. Can MLB be far behind?

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from steve182 wrote 2 years 12 weeks ago

The link to the article didn't work for me, so i'm not sure if these guys are CCL holders. I was assuming these "rules" were to discourage the illegal carry of firearms as is so prevalent among pro athletes and idiot celebs alike.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from 60256 wrote 2 years 12 weeks ago

Everybody looks at this post and goes "THEY CAN'T DO THAT!?!?!?!?!!!"......Well I am a gun owner, and I love guns and the second amendament, but I'm going to have to disagree with most people on this issue. The fact is that most professional althetes aren't responsible with firearms, and let's face it.........sports like football, most of the people came from some form of inner-city area where they carried firearms illegaly anyway.
I guess my main question is: What would somebody need a firearm in the locker room for? Self defense? Well, if an athlete is deranged enough to go shooting people in the locker room, then somebody is at fault for never reporting him in the process, because he obviously is not in the right state of mind.

Nate

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from shotgunlou wrote 2 years 11 weeks ago

The argument for having a gun in the locker room ended the day two professional athletes pulled guns on each other. And for what...a debt. Nobody's life was in danger UNTIL they decided the money they wanted was more important than the lives of the other players in the locker room. I have a concealed carry permit and am a huge supporter of the 2A, however I also agree that if kids can't play nicely you have to take away their toys. The real question should be why were there guns in the clubhouse to begin with. When was the last time a ball player had to EVER pull a weapon in self defense in between the clubhouse and his vehicle? Let alone inside the clubhouse.

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from Sarge01 wrote 2 years 10 weeks ago

I believe there was a court case somewhere not to long ago about a company that had banned firearms on their property and I think that the court shot them down and allowed employees to have guns on the property. If anyone can remember please help me out with the details. I think I am right about the situation.

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from waketheflipup wrote 1 year 49 weeks ago

my personal opinion is....before everyone passes judgement on what is right or wrong maybe we all should take a step back and think about the RIGHTS of everyone.i personally am all for ccw and anything else that keeps you or your family safe.yes i do have ccw and so does my husband.i think since it was meant for all u.s. citizens to have FREEDOM then we should as idividuals have the right to carry or not.some day you may be in a situation that you wish you had your protection.

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from Roscoe wrote 2 years 12 weeks ago

I'm all for gun right, but I'm a bigger fan of property rights. If your employer doesn't want you to carry on work property, then find another job that permits it or get used to it.

-1 Good Comment? | | Report
from blackdawgz wrote 2 years 12 weeks ago

I am 100% in favor of MLB's directive. Every time I do so much as handle a gun in my own space, I am blown away by our right to own one for sporting purposes or self defense. To carry one into the locker room or dugout is entirely inappropriate. Athletes have explosive tempers and often act on impulse, due to high levels of testosterone. Sometimes they need to be protected from themselves and each other. I seem to recall a recent incident where a baseball player lost it and hurled a baseball and severely injured a spectator...

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from blackdawgz wrote 2 years 12 weeks ago

I am 100% in favor of MLB's directive. Every time I do so much as handle a gun in my own space, I am blown away by our right to own one for sporting purposes or self defense. To carry one into the locker room or dugout is entirely inappropriate. Athletes have explosive tempers and often act on impulse, due to high levels of testosterone. Sometimes they need to be protected from themselves and each other. I seem to recall a recent incident where a baseball player lost it and hurled a baseball and severely injured a spectator...

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