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February 17, 2010

Who Watched the Westminster Dog Show Last Night?

By David DiBenedetto

I’m not much of a TV person, but last night I was flipping between the Olympics, the Kentucky vs Mississippi State basketball game, and, yes, the Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show. I have a like-hate relationship with the show. I hate to see dogs that have had more grooming done than Lady GaGa. It just feels unnatural. And I’m no fan of what show breeding has done to some of our popular sporting breeds. (That in itself is worth another blog post.)

But I still found myself interested in the enormous number of dogs and information presented. I never knew that the Border Terrier was bred so that its tail could be used as a handle! According to the some-what loony commentators, when a Border Terrier gets stuck in a hole or tunnel while chasing a rodent you simply reach down and pull it out by the tail—and, I imagine, hope that you still have a hand when it’s over.

In the end, I was rooting for the Brittany (the winner of the sporting group) to take Best in Show. Doubtful that dog would know the difference between a quail and a lunch pail, but I was still pulling for it.

The Brittany lost to a coifed Scottish Terrier. Glad I opted to watch the end of the Kentucky game.

So how about you? Did you watch any of the dog show, were you pulling for your favorite breed, or are you appalled by the entire notion?

Photo: Steve Surfman/WKC

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from stick500 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

yeh, it all seems pretty silly to me, but hey, I'm a "whatever floats your boat" kinda guy
could never figure out how a winner is picked in the final championship when they are all different breeds!
BTW, I've read many times that the Jack Russell terrier's tail was designed to pull those critters outta holes too-
my JRT wouldn't have liked that if I tried it with him!

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from huntnow wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

i was doing the same channel flipping. i just can't get over the poodle. who thinks that is attractive? really, i feel sorry for the dog. there were some pretty cool dogs though. and on the other channel, how is mississippi state not ranked? i was a nervous wreck, also, GO CATS.

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from MLH wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I didn't watch it, though I do love to see the dogs. I showed a dog in confirmation years ago but the travel and expense got old, as did the politics and snobbery. I was bummed to hear that Irish Red & Whites are now being shown. Another dog bred for bird hunting that will now be bred for both field and confirmation. Hate to see it.

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from Kkeltic wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I watch it whenever I happen to find it on.
Always root for the Bull Terrier(mine had cancer, had to put him to sleep a few years back), mini bull terrier(still have one). A colored BT won last year, Rufus, couldn't believe it. They have been getting snubbed by judges for a long time.
Watch "Best in Show" sometime, the handlers are hilarious, probably close to real life.

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from chadlove wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I think that dog needs to meet the devil toad...

As for the sporting group dogs, surprisingly the pointing breeds like Britts and pointers don't seem to be as far out of "functional conformation" as the retrievers and spaniels obviously are.

I didn't catch this year's show but in years past I've been amazed at how fat and sausage-like virtually all the retrievers are.

Chessies haven't quite gotten to the split between field-bred dogs and show dogs that labs have, but they
re getting there.

There have been a few DC (earning both bench and field titles) chessies in recent years but regardless of breed the retrievers I've seen on the televised kennel club shows likely couldn't hop up on a tailgate without a stepstool...

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from rare2700 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

well, this is strange, I was UNABLE to watch the dog show, for some reason there was no coverage on my TV, only a static image of a dog for two hours, am I the only one that had this experience?

Was trying to figure out if it had anything to do with the PETA protest or problem with my cable company. I was able to watch it on Monday night though....

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from Happy Myles wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Must confess, I watched the Westminster last night but only at my wife's insistence. Apparently the winning Scottish Terrier was a finalist before. However, it pooped as it paraded, which may be OK at horse shows, but apparently is a no no at dog shows. Guess that may be an explanation for no fire plugs on the premises. Watching the handlers lope around was worth watching too.

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from Jeff4066 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

We catch our favorite groups every year. And, it seems, every year they're coming up with new, goofy-looking breeds for us.

I agree that specialized breeding is ruining the usefulness for the sake of appearance. But that's the AKC for you. I'm not a fan of specialized breeding.

One dog I love, the Bernese Mountain Dog, has a high, like 100% chance of a short life due to bone, hip, cancer or other problems. After reading enough about them, I think that the breed should be allowed to die out totally. Why deliberately breed an animal that seldom lives to a natural old age? Oh... sorry... money.

I have a Doxle that's not "pure". I have a MinPin that was dumped by a "real breeder" because he has white on his chest.

On the show... I loved the Doberman, though.

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from blackdawgz wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I'm so hardcore that I searched for two years to find dawgs that had never been bred for physical traits.

I wouldn't watch thet if'n ah wuz in prison.

Also, ah don't even own a brainwashing machine.

There is too much to read and too much to do, and ah certainly don't want mah boys exposed to all thet mind-rot.

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from buckhunter wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I watched it. I love watching the dogs and I love the owners who take pride in their dogs.

I actually felt a little ashamed I wasn't spending enough time with my "best friend".

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from ricefarm wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Sorry, I used to get some entertainment value out of Westminister, but after seeing the movie "Best in Show" I can't watch a dog show without laughing.

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from trapper wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I was hoping the english setter would win but that don't come true

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from shane wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Not me. Appalling.

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from tbogg10 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

i just like to watch the dogs... ya i watched it, more or less just flipped back and forth between it and the olympics, but ya, i like to see the dogs

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from country road wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

I mildly enjoy watching, especially the working dogs and the big dogs like the bull mastiff, rottweiler, great dane, etc.

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from Bella wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

No, I couldn't bear it. The idiocy could curdle my braaain!

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from blackdawgz wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

I dunno. I seem to be having a very difficult time with this photo. At first I couldn't pick out the eyes, even though it appeared to be some kind of an animal. Now it's the legs. Something wrong here. Color, shape, number of legs?

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from Quackwacker wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

It burns me up to watch it. why not do this? In the sporting group, why not pick the top five dogs that look the best them take them out back and see who can still perform the job they were breed to do. Then you can pick a winner that looks good and can still work.

You know why they dont do that? Because its too easy and it would be good for the breed!

btw.........Im still alive and Dave you missed an awesome
Arkansas trip!

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from Pat Schock wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

Hi Chadlove and retriever owners,
My Lab is what I think they call an American Lab,
bred this last century for speed and drive to win field trials (we don't do this, but that seems to be the breeding). They are taller and faster.
I think the English lab was stockier, more barrel-chested, so not as fast. The winning Lab looked more like the English group to me, although he was otherwise nice looking. I believe there has been a controversy in breeding in which many purebred clubs went against the faster American Lab and back to the older, shorter ideal; so the judges may have been looking for the older body type.
I like the taller, faster Lab but what really impresses me is the good behavior of those dogs in a group - they are ahead of my dog! I wouildn't trade our lifestyle for a series of shows even if I had the money to do the show circuit.

Pat

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from blackdawgz wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

Totally disgusting and therefore humorous. I only caught it because of a previous lifetime in optics and photography. Somebody there is quite intelligent and has a great sense of humor. Probably that chick with the puppy and the turkey. Hatzoff to ya!

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from birddog wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

I was able to watch the very last when the Best of Show was selected. I was hoping for the Brittany. I object to all the extreme grooming of the dog shows. Don't they call them "Confirmation" shows? I think if the dog is bathed, brushed and combed and shown in it's natural look, that's the way they should be judged. Years ago I had a Brittany who was a good looking dog and was asked by "a friend" to show him. She kept him for a couple of days before the show and we all got together at the show to see the Brit perform. I was shocked when I found out she clipped his muzzle and shaved behind the ears and I can't remember what all she did. Needless to say, my beautiful Brit was not shown again but did a great job at our club's Fun Field Trials. Lots of fun and comaraderie. He made a great hunter also and even was an excellent duck hunter!!

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from HazelN wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

The Westminster Dog Show 2010 is over, and Best in Show has gone to Sadie, a Scottish Terrier. She also goes by Mercedes of Maryscot. It's her first win at Westminster, this the 134th year of the show, and 8th win overall for Scottish Terriers. Getting one of her pups will likely set one back more than a few payday loans. (Champion line dogs can cost as much as a used car.) PETA, of course, protested, but then again, few people care about what they think. Westminster winners don't take home huge cash prizes, and to think that in some countries, these dogs are eaten.

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from HazelN wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

The Westminster Dog Show 2010 is over, and Best in Show has gone to Sadie, a Scottish Terrier. She also goes by Mercedes of Maryscot. It's her first win at Westminster, this the 134th year of the show, and 8th win overall for Scottish Terriers. Getting one of her pups will likely set one back more than a few payday loans. (Champion line dogs can cost as much as a used car.) PETA, of course, protested, but then again, few people care about what they think. Westminster winners don't take home huge cash prizes, and to think that in some countries, these dogs are eaten.

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from Jerry A. wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

You don't have to particularly like a specific breed to appreciate the fact it provides companionship to people.

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from 99explorer wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

Anyone who loves dogs has to enjoy watching the various breeds on display, even the ridiculous poodles that have been groomed so extravagantly.
I'll never understand how one jusge can decide which specimen is best in show.

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from BeardogRed wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

Dear David Dibenedetto:
Since you read this I hope you learn something. Wisdom is virtue. You are not bigger that the dog world!

The Boykin Spaniel was first bred by South Carolina hunters during the 1900's to provide the ideal dog for hunting ducks and wild turkeys in the Wateree River Swamp.

Son, you are like a Baby Bird, All Mouth and Ass.

Now if you do not believe in pedigree dogs, why do you own one?
You are afraid of West as the AKC pups are good and y'all know it.
I bet you don't even know which dog they suggested as the best all round hunter do you. No, it aint a Blue Tick Walker. Or Ridgeback or some flimsy Spaniel!

Guess what, I was hunt'n before you was a thought in someones mind. I still hunt and can out hut y'all.
But oh, that IS CORRECT, i DO NOT HAVE ALL THE MONEY YOUR FAMILY HAS TO MAKE YOU A KNOW IT ALL DOG HUNTER! sORRY, ONE OF US IS ANYWAY!

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from Quackwacker wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

Dear Beardog Red,

That key board make you a tough guy huh?

LOL.

A wise man once told me "better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you are stupid than to open it and prove them right"

Ponder that for a while.

Quack

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from ric smith wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

I never read these kinds of comments negative to "show dogs" without wondering how much actual hands on knowledge all of those put down artists have? Most recent Britt I had would most certainly hunt, and it hasn't been too many years ago that a German Shorthair pointed a loose bird flying in the rafters at MSG. She was standing in the group ring when she did the deed, so apparently her instincts are intact. I know hounds that hunt, I know retrievers who retrieve, and yes, terriers that go to ground are expected to have good strong tails so they can be pulled to safetly from what ever burrow they've ventured down.

I guess that putting down purebred dogs and the AKC itself is one of those PeTA propaganda successes in action, but golly gee at least understand what you're criticising ... different breeds are not judged against one another in the show ring, but judged on how closely they meet the standard set for their particular breed.

Each time one of you big huntin' dawg folks picks on them AKC dawgs you're playing right into the hands of the Animal Rights factions like PeTA and HSUS who don't want you boys to hunt ... no purebred dogs, no hunting, and pretty soon, no farm animals and no domestic animals owned at all.

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from spsdel01 wrote 1 year 29 weeks ago

Oh I missed it. Actually I was not in the town & so didn't knew about its telecast. Anyways i heard that it was good.
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from Kkeltic wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I watch it whenever I happen to find it on.
Always root for the Bull Terrier(mine had cancer, had to put him to sleep a few years back), mini bull terrier(still have one). A colored BT won last year, Rufus, couldn't believe it. They have been getting snubbed by judges for a long time.
Watch "Best in Show" sometime, the handlers are hilarious, probably close to real life.

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from Jeff4066 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

We catch our favorite groups every year. And, it seems, every year they're coming up with new, goofy-looking breeds for us.

I agree that specialized breeding is ruining the usefulness for the sake of appearance. But that's the AKC for you. I'm not a fan of specialized breeding.

One dog I love, the Bernese Mountain Dog, has a high, like 100% chance of a short life due to bone, hip, cancer or other problems. After reading enough about them, I think that the breed should be allowed to die out totally. Why deliberately breed an animal that seldom lives to a natural old age? Oh... sorry... money.

I have a Doxle that's not "pure". I have a MinPin that was dumped by a "real breeder" because he has white on his chest.

On the show... I loved the Doberman, though.

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from buckhunter wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I watched it. I love watching the dogs and I love the owners who take pride in their dogs.

I actually felt a little ashamed I wasn't spending enough time with my "best friend".

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from stick500 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

yeh, it all seems pretty silly to me, but hey, I'm a "whatever floats your boat" kinda guy
could never figure out how a winner is picked in the final championship when they are all different breeds!
BTW, I've read many times that the Jack Russell terrier's tail was designed to pull those critters outta holes too-
my JRT wouldn't have liked that if I tried it with him!

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from huntnow wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

i was doing the same channel flipping. i just can't get over the poodle. who thinks that is attractive? really, i feel sorry for the dog. there were some pretty cool dogs though. and on the other channel, how is mississippi state not ranked? i was a nervous wreck, also, GO CATS.

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from chadlove wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I think that dog needs to meet the devil toad...

As for the sporting group dogs, surprisingly the pointing breeds like Britts and pointers don't seem to be as far out of "functional conformation" as the retrievers and spaniels obviously are.

I didn't catch this year's show but in years past I've been amazed at how fat and sausage-like virtually all the retrievers are.

Chessies haven't quite gotten to the split between field-bred dogs and show dogs that labs have, but they
re getting there.

There have been a few DC (earning both bench and field titles) chessies in recent years but regardless of breed the retrievers I've seen on the televised kennel club shows likely couldn't hop up on a tailgate without a stepstool...

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from rare2700 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

well, this is strange, I was UNABLE to watch the dog show, for some reason there was no coverage on my TV, only a static image of a dog for two hours, am I the only one that had this experience?

Was trying to figure out if it had anything to do with the PETA protest or problem with my cable company. I was able to watch it on Monday night though....

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from ricefarm wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Sorry, I used to get some entertainment value out of Westminister, but after seeing the movie "Best in Show" I can't watch a dog show without laughing.

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from tbogg10 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

i just like to watch the dogs... ya i watched it, more or less just flipped back and forth between it and the olympics, but ya, i like to see the dogs

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from country road wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

I mildly enjoy watching, especially the working dogs and the big dogs like the bull mastiff, rottweiler, great dane, etc.

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from blackdawgz wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

I dunno. I seem to be having a very difficult time with this photo. At first I couldn't pick out the eyes, even though it appeared to be some kind of an animal. Now it's the legs. Something wrong here. Color, shape, number of legs?

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from Pat Schock wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

Hi Chadlove and retriever owners,
My Lab is what I think they call an American Lab,
bred this last century for speed and drive to win field trials (we don't do this, but that seems to be the breeding). They are taller and faster.
I think the English lab was stockier, more barrel-chested, so not as fast. The winning Lab looked more like the English group to me, although he was otherwise nice looking. I believe there has been a controversy in breeding in which many purebred clubs went against the faster American Lab and back to the older, shorter ideal; so the judges may have been looking for the older body type.
I like the taller, faster Lab but what really impresses me is the good behavior of those dogs in a group - they are ahead of my dog! I wouildn't trade our lifestyle for a series of shows even if I had the money to do the show circuit.

Pat

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from MLH wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I didn't watch it, though I do love to see the dogs. I showed a dog in confirmation years ago but the travel and expense got old, as did the politics and snobbery. I was bummed to hear that Irish Red & Whites are now being shown. Another dog bred for bird hunting that will now be bred for both field and confirmation. Hate to see it.

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from Happy Myles wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Must confess, I watched the Westminster last night but only at my wife's insistence. Apparently the winning Scottish Terrier was a finalist before. However, it pooped as it paraded, which may be OK at horse shows, but apparently is a no no at dog shows. Guess that may be an explanation for no fire plugs on the premises. Watching the handlers lope around was worth watching too.

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from blackdawgz wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I'm so hardcore that I searched for two years to find dawgs that had never been bred for physical traits.

I wouldn't watch thet if'n ah wuz in prison.

Also, ah don't even own a brainwashing machine.

There is too much to read and too much to do, and ah certainly don't want mah boys exposed to all thet mind-rot.

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from trapper wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I was hoping the english setter would win but that don't come true

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from shane wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Not me. Appalling.

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from Bella wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

No, I couldn't bear it. The idiocy could curdle my braaain!

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from Quackwacker wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

It burns me up to watch it. why not do this? In the sporting group, why not pick the top five dogs that look the best them take them out back and see who can still perform the job they were breed to do. Then you can pick a winner that looks good and can still work.

You know why they dont do that? Because its too easy and it would be good for the breed!

btw.........Im still alive and Dave you missed an awesome
Arkansas trip!

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from birddog wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

I was able to watch the very last when the Best of Show was selected. I was hoping for the Brittany. I object to all the extreme grooming of the dog shows. Don't they call them "Confirmation" shows? I think if the dog is bathed, brushed and combed and shown in it's natural look, that's the way they should be judged. Years ago I had a Brittany who was a good looking dog and was asked by "a friend" to show him. She kept him for a couple of days before the show and we all got together at the show to see the Brit perform. I was shocked when I found out she clipped his muzzle and shaved behind the ears and I can't remember what all she did. Needless to say, my beautiful Brit was not shown again but did a great job at our club's Fun Field Trials. Lots of fun and comaraderie. He made a great hunter also and even was an excellent duck hunter!!

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from HazelN wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

The Westminster Dog Show 2010 is over, and Best in Show has gone to Sadie, a Scottish Terrier. She also goes by Mercedes of Maryscot. It's her first win at Westminster, this the 134th year of the show, and 8th win overall for Scottish Terriers. Getting one of her pups will likely set one back more than a few payday loans. (Champion line dogs can cost as much as a used car.) PETA, of course, protested, but then again, few people care about what they think. Westminster winners don't take home huge cash prizes, and to think that in some countries, these dogs are eaten.

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from HazelN wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

The Westminster Dog Show 2010 is over, and Best in Show has gone to Sadie, a Scottish Terrier. She also goes by Mercedes of Maryscot. It's her first win at Westminster, this the 134th year of the show, and 8th win overall for Scottish Terriers. Getting one of her pups will likely set one back more than a few payday loans. (Champion line dogs can cost as much as a used car.) PETA, of course, protested, but then again, few people care about what they think. Westminster winners don't take home huge cash prizes, and to think that in some countries, these dogs are eaten.

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from Jerry A. wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

You don't have to particularly like a specific breed to appreciate the fact it provides companionship to people.

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from 99explorer wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

Anyone who loves dogs has to enjoy watching the various breeds on display, even the ridiculous poodles that have been groomed so extravagantly.
I'll never understand how one jusge can decide which specimen is best in show.

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from Quackwacker wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

Dear Beardog Red,

That key board make you a tough guy huh?

LOL.

A wise man once told me "better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you are stupid than to open it and prove them right"

Ponder that for a while.

Quack

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from ric smith wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

I never read these kinds of comments negative to "show dogs" without wondering how much actual hands on knowledge all of those put down artists have? Most recent Britt I had would most certainly hunt, and it hasn't been too many years ago that a German Shorthair pointed a loose bird flying in the rafters at MSG. She was standing in the group ring when she did the deed, so apparently her instincts are intact. I know hounds that hunt, I know retrievers who retrieve, and yes, terriers that go to ground are expected to have good strong tails so they can be pulled to safetly from what ever burrow they've ventured down.

I guess that putting down purebred dogs and the AKC itself is one of those PeTA propaganda successes in action, but golly gee at least understand what you're criticising ... different breeds are not judged against one another in the show ring, but judged on how closely they meet the standard set for their particular breed.

Each time one of you big huntin' dawg folks picks on them AKC dawgs you're playing right into the hands of the Animal Rights factions like PeTA and HSUS who don't want you boys to hunt ... no purebred dogs, no hunting, and pretty soon, no farm animals and no domestic animals owned at all.

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from spsdel01 wrote 1 year 29 weeks ago

Oh I missed it. Actually I was not in the town & so didn't knew about its telecast. Anyways i heard that it was good.
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from blackdawgz wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

Totally disgusting and therefore humorous. I only caught it because of a previous lifetime in optics and photography. Somebody there is quite intelligent and has a great sense of humor. Probably that chick with the puppy and the turkey. Hatzoff to ya!

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from BeardogRed wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

Dear David Dibenedetto:
Since you read this I hope you learn something. Wisdom is virtue. You are not bigger that the dog world!

The Boykin Spaniel was first bred by South Carolina hunters during the 1900's to provide the ideal dog for hunting ducks and wild turkeys in the Wateree River Swamp.

Son, you are like a Baby Bird, All Mouth and Ass.

Now if you do not believe in pedigree dogs, why do you own one?
You are afraid of West as the AKC pups are good and y'all know it.
I bet you don't even know which dog they suggested as the best all round hunter do you. No, it aint a Blue Tick Walker. Or Ridgeback or some flimsy Spaniel!

Guess what, I was hunt'n before you was a thought in someones mind. I still hunt and can out hut y'all.
But oh, that IS CORRECT, i DO NOT HAVE ALL THE MONEY YOUR FAMILY HAS TO MAKE YOU A KNOW IT ALL DOG HUNTER! sORRY, ONE OF US IS ANYWAY!

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