


February 09, 2010
Woman Brings Gun To Work, Police Not Far Behind
By Dave Hurteau
Maybe work is not the best place to sell a gun.
From Oregon’s KPTV Channel 12 Fox News:
A woman who brought a rifle to work caused a major police response Thursday morning in Clackamas.
Someone called 911 and reported that a woman carrying a rifle entered the ADP Offices at 10155 SE Sunnyside Road, sheriff's deputies said.
Numerous police officers and deputies showed up at the scene and set up containment in the area. After about 20 minutes, deputies determined there was no threat of a possible shooting.
Sheriff's spokesman Lt. Nick Watt said the woman brought the rifle to work so she could show it to a co-worker. Schmiedel said she heard the woman was selling the firearm to someone.
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I presume ADP is some kind of government agency office? Having been a US federal government employee most of my life and I can certainly see why its workers have a tendency to "go postal". It's a well-known fact that the scum floats to the top in our federal civil service system. It's all about who you know, how bright you can polish their apple (or a certain part of their anatomy), and/or how good you are at making the performance of others look worse than your own ("backstabbing"). There is no respect for good hard work. If you're not nuts when you go to work for the feds, you soon will be. A real recipe for disaster.
ADP is a private firm that does payroll services and other things.
If she didn't secure permission to bring a firearm on private property, she'll probably be looking for a another job.
My mistake. ADP is a contracted payroll company. I suspect that this outfit has something to do with dispensing unemployment checks in Oregon. That would make them a target for a lot of unhappy folks. Anyway, under the circumstances (i.e. a government contractor building and the legacy of whacked-out government service employees shooting each other on the job), I don't think the local authorities over-reacted. I would have done the same.
She should have at LEAST left the weapon in the car and had the "buyer" come down to the parking lot to view it !
Maybe she had no idea of firearms handling dos and don'ts. Should have had it in a case.
If folks would just use their heads for something other than hanging their ears on, things like this wouldn't happen. How can you not expect someone to call in on that? Where I live, we have a gun show a couple of times a year and of course, people bring guns to sell and trade. The problem is there isn't good parking close to the facility, and people can be seen walking up the main street with guns. Talk about 911 lighting up like a Christmas tree! If it weren't for the obvious dangers of ignoring the calls because the gun show is in town, it would be comical.
It should have been encased or left outside in her vehicle. I'm a little surprised that it took 20 minutes to figure out that there was no threat, but since I wasn't there, I won't try to second guess the reaction. Better safe than sorry.
Any person with even a hint of common sense knows you don't bring a long gun into a place of employment without the owners permission. Keep the gun locked in a case that is locked in your car. If you have ever sold or bought a gun from another private individual you would know this.
She showed a stunning lack of judgement. Such a workplace is entirely inappropriate for displaying firearms, no matter how innocent one's motives. I think the reaction was fitting.
I think everyone has pretty much hit the nail on the head for this particular situation. Common sense should dictate that there are work places where open display of firearms is inappropriate.
On a similar note, my state allows open carry of pistols (holstered of course). My state also allows certain citizens to obtain a CCW permit. Our state is one with some of the stricter CCW requirements therefore not everyone can obtain one. I don't have a problem with open carry and have done it myself. Unfortunately there is a remote possibility that some person who is deathly afraid of firearms will see someone utilizing open carry somewhere in public. I'm going to go out on a limb here and state that its too bad for the person that doesn't like it. If it is permitted by law, its legal and there is nothing the complainer can do but gripe about it. My opinion is if you don't like it...hey...don't look at it.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870342770457505201022865321...
Hey guys, check out the article above from the Wall Street Journal (ATTENTION CHAD LOVE). The hunters/fishers plight is getting noticed. Interesting in and of itself but check their take on it - the outfitters perspective.
On a side note, the Eastern Sports and Outdoor show used to be a good show. Now its just a craft fair with the occasional quality supplier thrown in.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870342770457505201022865321...
WSJ_Opinion_LEFTSecondBucket#articleTabs%3Darticle
Resubmitting the link cause it got cut off above
The last town I lived in, the gun shop on the corner of main street did a brisk business. As long as you were within about a half a block of the place, no one batted an eye at guns coming or going.
Sounds like the attack of one of my least favorite superheroines "CLUELESSWOMAN"! Less powerful than a SPEEDING GERBIL, able to confound the simplest instruction, Clueless Woman (accompanied by Her feckless assistant GORMLESSMAN) spreads fear and panic (as well as extra work for tow truck drivers) wherever she goes...
Good on Bella, you do have a sense of humor after all!
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She should have at LEAST left the weapon in the car and had the "buyer" come down to the parking lot to view it !
Maybe she had no idea of firearms handling dos and don'ts. Should have had it in a case.
It should have been encased or left outside in her vehicle. I'm a little surprised that it took 20 minutes to figure out that there was no threat, but since I wasn't there, I won't try to second guess the reaction. Better safe than sorry.
She showed a stunning lack of judgement. Such a workplace is entirely inappropriate for displaying firearms, no matter how innocent one's motives. I think the reaction was fitting.
ADP is a private firm that does payroll services and other things.
If she didn't secure permission to bring a firearm on private property, she'll probably be looking for a another job.
My mistake. ADP is a contracted payroll company. I suspect that this outfit has something to do with dispensing unemployment checks in Oregon. That would make them a target for a lot of unhappy folks. Anyway, under the circumstances (i.e. a government contractor building and the legacy of whacked-out government service employees shooting each other on the job), I don't think the local authorities over-reacted. I would have done the same.
If folks would just use their heads for something other than hanging their ears on, things like this wouldn't happen. How can you not expect someone to call in on that? Where I live, we have a gun show a couple of times a year and of course, people bring guns to sell and trade. The problem is there isn't good parking close to the facility, and people can be seen walking up the main street with guns. Talk about 911 lighting up like a Christmas tree! If it weren't for the obvious dangers of ignoring the calls because the gun show is in town, it would be comical.
Any person with even a hint of common sense knows you don't bring a long gun into a place of employment without the owners permission. Keep the gun locked in a case that is locked in your car. If you have ever sold or bought a gun from another private individual you would know this.
I think everyone has pretty much hit the nail on the head for this particular situation. Common sense should dictate that there are work places where open display of firearms is inappropriate.
On a similar note, my state allows open carry of pistols (holstered of course). My state also allows certain citizens to obtain a CCW permit. Our state is one with some of the stricter CCW requirements therefore not everyone can obtain one. I don't have a problem with open carry and have done it myself. Unfortunately there is a remote possibility that some person who is deathly afraid of firearms will see someone utilizing open carry somewhere in public. I'm going to go out on a limb here and state that its too bad for the person that doesn't like it. If it is permitted by law, its legal and there is nothing the complainer can do but gripe about it. My opinion is if you don't like it...hey...don't look at it.
Sounds like the attack of one of my least favorite superheroines "CLUELESSWOMAN"! Less powerful than a SPEEDING GERBIL, able to confound the simplest instruction, Clueless Woman (accompanied by Her feckless assistant GORMLESSMAN) spreads fear and panic (as well as extra work for tow truck drivers) wherever she goes...
I presume ADP is some kind of government agency office? Having been a US federal government employee most of my life and I can certainly see why its workers have a tendency to "go postal". It's a well-known fact that the scum floats to the top in our federal civil service system. It's all about who you know, how bright you can polish their apple (or a certain part of their anatomy), and/or how good you are at making the performance of others look worse than your own ("backstabbing"). There is no respect for good hard work. If you're not nuts when you go to work for the feds, you soon will be. A real recipe for disaster.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870342770457505201022865321...
Hey guys, check out the article above from the Wall Street Journal (ATTENTION CHAD LOVE). The hunters/fishers plight is getting noticed. Interesting in and of itself but check their take on it - the outfitters perspective.
On a side note, the Eastern Sports and Outdoor show used to be a good show. Now its just a craft fair with the occasional quality supplier thrown in.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870342770457505201022865321...
WSJ_Opinion_LEFTSecondBucket#articleTabs%3Darticle
Resubmitting the link cause it got cut off above
The last town I lived in, the gun shop on the corner of main street did a brisk business. As long as you were within about a half a block of the place, no one batted an eye at guns coming or going.
Good on Bella, you do have a sense of humor after all!
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