


March 18, 2010
Arizona House Committee Okays Knife-Rights Bill
By Dave Hurteau
From the AZ Capitol Times:
Cities, counties and other governmental entities would be forbidden from restricting people’s use of knives under a bill winding its way through the legislative process.
The bill, S1153, would give the state sole power to impose regulation on knives. It was approved March 16 by the House Government Committee.
“We believe that knives are essential tools, tools that are used daily by millions of honest Americans,” said Doug Ritter, chairman of Knife Rights, an advocacy group that is pushing the bill.…
Ritter’s group is using Arizona as a launching pad for a national knife-law-preemption campaign.
“It’s a matter of fairness, a matter of civil rights,” he said.
Comments (13)
About time! Without a knife, we are scarcely tool using apes!
You can hardly ban knives, as it is impossible to restrict their manufacture and pointy things can be made out of anything at all! Attempting to regulate the ubiquitous is a waste of resources and time, hardly qualifying as anything sensible.
I've carried a pocketknife everyday of my life since I was a kid, but... I'm not sure this law is a good thing. It's already hard where I live to carry a pocketknife in many government buildings. Under this scenario, schools and government agencies will lobby the state hard for restrictions, and if they happen, they'll be statewide, not just in some municipalities.
State government exercising its power could be worse than local governments considering the issue independently.
Control. A classic example of thinking a problem (crimes involving knives) will be diminished by a law.
The solution to crimes involving knives is to undermine the reasons people use them. Drug money, domestic violence, and mental illness. The solutions to those problems are volumes if politicians bothered to read up and do their job.
As Bella points out, the knife is one of the most basic of human tools. Any kind of ban on knives makes no sense.
Roscoe, you make a good point but I disagree with your conclusion. Local governments tend to be much more restrictive than states in most cases. Also, a hodgepodge of different restrictions in each city or county makes it impossible for anyone to know the law--you cross the street into a different jurisdiction and your "legal" knife is now "illegal."
Still leaves the state open to make laws. Will they now have to define a knife versus anything else like an axe or sword?
Frankly, if you can carry an axe, you should also be able to carry a sword, machete, bowie or other blade. While people get stuck and sliced with little tiny knives, axe murderers are actually scarce. As far as swords go I can think of only two recent murders committed with such (and of those, none were committed by trained martial artists, only by wannabe crazies). As such, statisticly speaking, they should let me wear my Daisho (long and short swords)in public, Us Iaidoka have as good a record for safety and respect for the common peace as any!
I do know, knife attacks far outweigh shootings but you will never hear the statistics!
MLH, the state level is where this type of law should be decided. If the state doesn't regulate and pre-empt the cities from regulating (guns & knives or anything else), you get all the crazy local laws--like the Chicago & NYC gun laws. It's true that the states can over-regulate, but they already have that authority, subject only to the Constitution. In Florida, state statutes regulate all weapons, including guns and knives. The state law prohibits local governments from imposing any greater restrictions. I don't agree with all the state restrictions, but if they were repealed entirely, it would leave every city and county free to come up with their own hair-brained regulations.
I agree with the group addressing this issue now rather than later..
Tools to include knives are mission essential in our lives. They can save lives, cut seat belts when a rapid egress is needed, aid in starting a fire, skin and cut food, open containers and so much more
You never know know how essential a knife or any tool is until you don't have one
After Mrs. Woods went after Tiger with the 9 iron just wait until they try to outlaw golf clubs. Now wouldn't that cause a stink.
People ask me all the time why I carry a knife. But the inevitable come to a point when they need to use one and they have to use mine because they don't carry one. But for some reason they don't see why they might need one.
http://www.fieldandstream.com/forums/survival/always-carry-good-knife
There is something to be said about knives having carried one one all my life since my boyscout days.
There is not a day that goes by that new laws are involked infringing on our basic rights. Guns knives whats next. I would rather have a knife and not need it than need it and not have it. Remember this the next time you go to the poles to vote. What stand did my elected offial take ? What stand do i take?
Though i agree with the need for this bill, and agree with both Roscoe and Bella, I am now wondering what else they are going to try to come in and regulate for me? The height of the flames of my campfire or BBQ? The length of time my son can burn his marsh mellows? I say just leave my rights alone, and you'll keep your job.
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About time! Without a knife, we are scarcely tool using apes!
You can hardly ban knives, as it is impossible to restrict their manufacture and pointy things can be made out of anything at all! Attempting to regulate the ubiquitous is a waste of resources and time, hardly qualifying as anything sensible.
As Bella points out, the knife is one of the most basic of human tools. Any kind of ban on knives makes no sense.
Roscoe, you make a good point but I disagree with your conclusion. Local governments tend to be much more restrictive than states in most cases. Also, a hodgepodge of different restrictions in each city or county makes it impossible for anyone to know the law--you cross the street into a different jurisdiction and your "legal" knife is now "illegal."
I've carried a pocketknife everyday of my life since I was a kid, but... I'm not sure this law is a good thing. It's already hard where I live to carry a pocketknife in many government buildings. Under this scenario, schools and government agencies will lobby the state hard for restrictions, and if they happen, they'll be statewide, not just in some municipalities.
State government exercising its power could be worse than local governments considering the issue independently.
Control. A classic example of thinking a problem (crimes involving knives) will be diminished by a law.
The solution to crimes involving knives is to undermine the reasons people use them. Drug money, domestic violence, and mental illness. The solutions to those problems are volumes if politicians bothered to read up and do their job.
I agree with the group addressing this issue now rather than later..
Tools to include knives are mission essential in our lives. They can save lives, cut seat belts when a rapid egress is needed, aid in starting a fire, skin and cut food, open containers and so much more
You never know know how essential a knife or any tool is until you don't have one
People ask me all the time why I carry a knife. But the inevitable come to a point when they need to use one and they have to use mine because they don't carry one. But for some reason they don't see why they might need one.
Still leaves the state open to make laws. Will they now have to define a knife versus anything else like an axe or sword?
Frankly, if you can carry an axe, you should also be able to carry a sword, machete, bowie or other blade. While people get stuck and sliced with little tiny knives, axe murderers are actually scarce. As far as swords go I can think of only two recent murders committed with such (and of those, none were committed by trained martial artists, only by wannabe crazies). As such, statisticly speaking, they should let me wear my Daisho (long and short swords)in public, Us Iaidoka have as good a record for safety and respect for the common peace as any!
There is something to be said about knives having carried one one all my life since my boyscout days.
There is not a day that goes by that new laws are involked infringing on our basic rights. Guns knives whats next. I would rather have a knife and not need it than need it and not have it. Remember this the next time you go to the poles to vote. What stand did my elected offial take ? What stand do i take?
I do know, knife attacks far outweigh shootings but you will never hear the statistics!
MLH, the state level is where this type of law should be decided. If the state doesn't regulate and pre-empt the cities from regulating (guns & knives or anything else), you get all the crazy local laws--like the Chicago & NYC gun laws. It's true that the states can over-regulate, but they already have that authority, subject only to the Constitution. In Florida, state statutes regulate all weapons, including guns and knives. The state law prohibits local governments from imposing any greater restrictions. I don't agree with all the state restrictions, but if they were repealed entirely, it would leave every city and county free to come up with their own hair-brained regulations.
After Mrs. Woods went after Tiger with the 9 iron just wait until they try to outlaw golf clubs. Now wouldn't that cause a stink.
http://www.fieldandstream.com/forums/survival/always-carry-good-knife
Though i agree with the need for this bill, and agree with both Roscoe and Bella, I am now wondering what else they are going to try to come in and regulate for me? The height of the flames of my campfire or BBQ? The length of time my son can burn his marsh mellows? I say just leave my rights alone, and you'll keep your job.
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