AMEN!

This was more of life insurance for the criminals. A sweet guarantee that when committing a crime you are the ONLY one with a weapon. I'm sure they lowered the gunman death rate for gun crimes, those are the only numbers that lowered i'm sure.

“The peaceable part of mankind will be continually overrun by the vile and abandoned while they neglect the means of self-defense. The supposed quietude of a good man allures the ruffian; while on the other hand, arms like laws discourage and keep the invader and the plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. The balance of power is the scale of peace. The same balance would be preserved were all the world destitute of arms, for all would be alike; but since some will not, others dare not lay them aside.... Horrid mischief would ensue were one half the world deprived of the use of them; . . . the weak will become prey.”
-Thomas Paine (1737-1809), in "Thoughts on Defensive War", in The Pennsylvania Magazine, July 1775

Once again, "WHAT PART OF, THERE IS NO GOVERNMENT ENTITY RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR PERSONNEL PROTECTION YOU JUST CANNOT UNDERSTAND!!!!"

Huntnow may I add,

In Europe over 40% of all robberies at home, the family is still in the house and become prey to the intruder with a gun!

Australia went down with only a whimper. But what separates the United States from the rest of the world, we are willing to fight for our freedom. For Freedom and Liberty is not from the Government to the People, but People to the Government!!!!

There is a sleeping giant in the United States and may God have mercy on there sole if they awaken it!!!!

“But I don't want to defend myself.”
-reportedly uttered by a Brady Law supporter

What can I say, Here's your sign!

jamesti, "if you don't have a gun to defend your family, you risk being a victim." that may be true but another piece of comfort for non-gun owners is that if 1/2 of the population has firearms you are protected by the fact that an intruder knows that there is a 50% of getting shot. Instead of having a security sign in your front yard, maybe a set of antlers over the garage or a hunting sticker on your window would work better as a deterrent.

Clay, you must be one bad mother!

huntnow

I must be one bad mother?

Not at all, you pick on my neighbor you pick on me, it's that simple.

There are two kinds of people in this world, those who are shot at, then there are those who shoot back with overwhelming precision fire power and they knew it!

steve182 - I think that jamesti meant that otherwise law-abiding citizens are entrapped into violating gun laws through their desire to protect themselves from criminals.

Everybody repeat after me, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!!! I must be a bigger idiot than I thought. It seems to be that if we have a guarteed right and the words "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" are present then nothing, anywhere, ever can infringe on that right. It doesn't say the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, unless you go into a mall, bank, hospital, bar, school, etc. At exactly what point do we have to give up our rights and why do business owners get to decide that we have to give up our rights? Now you could argue that we don't want people going into our elementary schools with guns. Honestly, I don't have a problem with that!! The people that mean to do others harm DO NOT CARE what the law says they are just going to do it. Police officers don't remove their guns before going on school property and according to BOR Ammendment II, we have as much right to carry a gun as they do. I'd rather some teacher or soccer mom pull out their gun and pop a few rounds in someone that is there to do my child harm than hide under a desk or in a closet because they have absolutely no way to defend themselves or others. On the other hand, I've heard that there is a law against killing other people and that the penalty for that is much worse than for breaking any gun law. There must be because that never happens so maybe a law banning all guns from everywhere forever will work. WTF!!!

“If the personal freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution inhibit the government's ability to govern the people, we should look to limit those guarantees.”
-President Bill Clinton, August 12, 1993

“the purpose of government is to reign in the rights of the people”
-Bill Clinton during an interview on MTV in 1993

“The presidency - by which I mean the executive state - is the sum total of American tyranny. The other branches of government, including the presidentially appointed Supreme Court, are mere adjuncts. The presidency insists on complete devotion and humble submission to its dictates, even while its steals the products of our labor and drives us into economic ruin. It centralizes all power unto itself, and crowds out all competing centers of power in society, including the church, the family, the business, the charity, and the community.”
-Lew Rockwell, president of the Ludwig Von Mises Institute

“In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”
-George Orwell

"Would it make you feel any better if they got pushed out of windows?"...Archie Bunker

Clay Cooper I am impressed with the amount of research you provide to the posts. Keep up the great work and here is a thumbs up to you.

Concealed And Carried

Those who oppose legalizing concealed carry argue that we don`t need a concealed carry system because Wisconsin already has a relatively low crime rate. In essence, these opponents are saying that 24,000 rapes, assaults, robberies and other violent crimes every year constitute an acceptable level of criminal violence.

http://www.nrapvf.org/News/Read.aspx?ID=3076&T=7

Hats off to Steve Chapman. It's sad that submitting an editorial has to seem 'courageous', but in the 'anti' environment that is Chicago, his editorial is a breath of fresh air. Not to mention a healthy dose of COMMON SENSE. Hope alot of the dummy's in Chi town read it.

"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." ~ Thomas Jefferson
It is always amazing to me that the Founders had all this common sense, and today's enlightened, liberal pinheads know so much more about what is good for the great unwashed. Pity that none of their enlightenment falls on the criminal element that cause the rest of us, that choose not to be victims, to remain armed.

The headline isn't news to anyone here in F&S land--good to see this printed in a Chicago paper--maybe the facts might sink into some of the thick skulls there.

First reaction: hoots and hollers. 2nd: DUH. 3rd: I feel like things are really going our way lately, the future favorable decision included. People everywhere are finally seeing the light after decades of failed gun control. It's showing in legal changes and in changing attitudes among the people. I know a lot of people that now want to buy a gun, when they were borderline anti just a few years ago.

Highcountry, I know what he meant, I was trying to take a different approach, apparently ineffective, but i amused myself so it was well worth it.

the only problem i see with the constitution as a whole is that it is too easy for anyone to interpret it any way they want to make a point. lawyers are good at that and judges just make a decision based on their personal beliefs instead of the law or the constitution. i'm afraid if this administration gets it's way, we are headed for war. watch out for the U.N. to land if that happens.

You know, if anti-gunners would have the guts to propose an actual constitutional amendment to overturn the second, I would fight it tooth-and-nail, but at least I could respect them for it; instead of this sneaking around the constitution they try to get away with.

Fantastic posts gentlemen! Im not the sharpest knife in the drawer but " shall not be infringed" seems pretty clear to me. Frankly I think people who oppose gun owner ship are sheep and mental defectives. The stats stare at us in the news every day!!!!!

The editorial is correct but the paranoid ravings in some of these posts make me shake my head - Lew Rockwell is just another fascist who would be happy to create a real tyranny here. Those kind of far-right kooks are the real danger to our freedom and why I make sure to always be armed.

Down ding this all you will. But the extremist right wing paranoids that are attacking and killing and terrorizing will doom us and our freedoms long before anything the government does. There is no difference between, say, Joseph A. Stack or John Patrick Bedell and Osama Bin Laden and we deny that to our peril.

This sounds a lot like Prohibition. Getting rid of alcohol was supposed to make the country more family oriented and get rid of drunks, and instead all it did was give birth to a new form of crime. This topic and law seems to have had the same intentions, but clearly is not having the desired results.

I always liked the Robert Heinlein, the science fiction writer, quote. "An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life." Short, sweet, and to the point.

86Ram, that was very interesting and informative. Thanks for sharing! It appears that some are realizing that if one of the Bill of Rights can be diminished, then the rest are easy prey

What is so confusing about The right to keep and bear arms shall not be in fringed upon? It doesn't get any more plain and simple than that. I carry everywhere because crime crime knows no boundaries. In other words crime can happen anywhere and if you can only carry some places criminals will take advantage of that.

we all know that the police cannot be everywhere at once and the bottom line is that they are not obligated to respond to every call they recieve. since this is the stark reality that we live in, how can anyone say that we should not be allowed the right or means to defend ourselves and family. instead all law abiding adults should be REQUIRED to own a gun.

Gun control = Sight Alignment, Sight Picture and a steady trigger squeeze.

I read somewhere that in the old west the presence of firearms clearly displayed; led to a culture where people were overly polite. I guess you might be a little less inclined to start an argument with someone if they have a .45 with a well worn holster on their hip.