


March 18, 2010
Hurteau: Breaking News, World-Record-8-Point Poacher Goes To Jail
By Dave Hurteau
The sad tale of a world-class buck’s sorry demise continues. Today, Troy Alan Reinke, 32, of Cannon Falls, MN, pleaded guitly to poaching the largest 8-point whitetail buck ever killed--a 185-inch bohemoth brought down last Halloween. Now, Alan is headed to where many hunters say he belongs—in jail.
From the Minneapolis Star-Tribune:
Reinke… admitted Thursday in District Court to a gross misdemeanor for illegally possessing the trophy buck and to two misdemeanors for failing to register two other deer he shot in October, said his attorney, Tim Dillon. About a dozen other charges were dismissed.
Taking into account that this incident put Reinke in violation of his parole from a domestic assault conviction as well as time already served in the poaching case, Reinke's sentence calls for him to serve 245 days in jail. He also loses his hunting privileges for five years, and must pay $1,500 in restitution and $500 in court costs.
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thats a big buck! too bad it had to be poached
It really too bad that they don't just revoke poachers licenses for life. It's not like these people don't know better. They do and don't care.
not trying to make poaching a good thing, but i wonder how many record book deer are really poached???!!!!
It would have been nice to see a loyal hunter take it instead of a poacher.
"We can't always explain why people do the things they do."
He must be just an all around great guy--the poaching convictions violated his parole! Let him rot--& lock up your daughters when he gets out.
Does taking away his hunting privileges really mean anything -- the guy has already shown complete disregard for the law!
Good to go ... This guy got what the court system thinks is justified... However he is a repeat offender who has a criminal; history ..(domestic assault and now poaching) seems like he's on the right path in his life.
How many people pay more than $2,000 and shoot a small buck? Is a world record really only worth $1500 in fines? Take his truck, gun, house ect. The fines are what benefits sportsmen and the deer. Slam him with a fine that he can afford, then double it. He probably doesn't have anything better to do than sit in jail anyways.
Very nice deer, too bad it had to be taken illegally. I would have loved for some young hunter to have had the chance to bag that buck!
that is an amazing 185 inch 8 point buck too bad a arrogant poacher shot it
This punishment won't phase him or rehabilitate him at all. Once out he will consider his debt paid and start all over again. These petty criminals need something to fear other than 245 days of rest and relaxation at our expense. Jail should mean hard labor, little rest, bread/water and one visit a year from friends and relatives. About what our young men are seeing in Iraq.
Impressive rack !
Does anyone feel that it would be wrong for the DNR to sell or lease the rack to Cabelas?
I wish they would lease it ,at least I could see it.
Here in WV we had a exhibit that we used at fairs and other public meetings called " the Wall of Shame" It was of record book bucks that we had taken from jerks. We donated it to the Cabelas when it opened in Wheeling in our state. At least anyone can view the big bucks now. Don't make the mistake of calling them hunters. I agree with an earlier post take their hunting license for life. They may hunt again but then everyone knows they are illegal and makes it easier for us to catch them again. I spent my entire career trying to catch people like this guy and several of them bit the dust. I hope that something that I did provided an opportunity for some law abiding sportsman . Wouldn't a young hunter have to change his pants if he had killed one like that.
Thank you Mr. Rexrode,
I was just thinking that Cabelas can afford it and the DNR can use the money to go after more of these jerks.
I think that this man got alot worse than what he deserved. He should have gotten a fine and lost his licenses, but locking him up; thats just crazy!!!!!!
I think he got off way too easy. Parole violation, wife beater, poacher. Sounds like he's a winner. Why didn't he just go after it legally. I bet it would have been a 200+ inch 9 or 10 point next year.
Hunting deer is a privilege, not a right. He should loose his hunting license for life. As far as the domestic abuse thing, I think he should be locked in a room with my friend Lizzie who is a seven foot lady with attitude. Once so abused, he would likely never abuse anybody again...
I agree with most people that have posted thus far. I believe that his sentence should have been much more stiff. less than a year and 1500 bucks is really nothing more than a slap on the wrist. he should lose hunting privilages for life - especially since he had already broken parole. sometimes the law just isn't enough when people know they are doing wrong, and get off so easily.
On page 10 of my photo files (click my username and go to photos) there is a photo of a warden haolding the rack of a huge Kansas buck shot by poachers. This was just the biggest buck of many. The guy had a night vision scope on a Browning BAR. He should go to jail IMO.
Looks like he got what was coming to him, wish he got more time.
The poaching violated his parole. Parole? Is there a pattern here. Years ago my family made an honest mistake anyone could make. Cut legs off when butchering, and forgot to load up the leg and tag when we left. We got busted, learned our lesson and have never forgotten since. That is priority 1 on our leaving camp "double-check" list now. This guy has show a repetitious blatant disregard for law and order of all forms. Maybe he will learn his lesson, I hope he does. Good job to all of those involved with the legal process here. We usually only take about officers, lawyers and judges when they do wrong. Thank you for your service.
And apparently I can't type this morning and forgot to "double-check" before I submit.
This low life is just one of many, how many game theifs get away with these violations every year? I think low eithics and disregard for rules and regulations come from lack up adult guidance and mentoring or from children growing up seeing adults shooting out of season, road hunting, trespassing and night hunting to name a few. I see these violations first hand in Arkansas and sadly some are my relatives. I was brought into hunting with rules and the fact if the rules were broke (ever), I'd lose my rights starting from my first hunt at age 6. Parents, uncles friends and relatives need to step up and teach our young that there is ethics and rules in hunting and in life I have cousins that think nothing of shooting rifles in bow season, shooting over the limit, shooting over private property, spotlighting and more, then enter their proudly poached trophys in big buck contest = LOW LIFES. They get away with these crimes because they know the likely hood of seeing an Arkansas Game officer in the woods during oct-feb are slim to none, mostly due to the fact there are only one game officer per county.
Well it is just a shame that this great deer was poached and his rap sheet makes it no surprise....We can only hope he gets a big cell mate in FULL RUT!!!
Sounds like we know some of the same people in AR,Cgull. I cant believe that some of them are actually proud of it!? I wont go hunting with any of these people ever! I will turn them in if I get the opportunity. The poaching line # in central AR is 8004829262. Its a shame such a magnificent animal is taken by such a low life scumbag.
He got what he deserve and awesome buck indeed!!!
Man that deer is somethin, I can't imagine shootin it, but it would be awesome.
And then there will be other poachers who, after reading this story, will think they are smarter than this guy and go out and get caught. It serves them all right.
5 years. . . Hummph! Why should this guy ever be allowed to hunt again. It's Insulting.
In the words of ted nugent,"I dont like repeat offenders, I like dead offenders."
so here is my question. shouldn't he have been charged for being in possession of a firearm as well since he had a domestic violence conviction? yep, he got off way too easy on this one!
I don't think suspending a poacher's hunting priveledges sounds like a very effective deterrent. $2,000 in fines and court costs isn't exactly pocket change, nor is 245 days in jail a "long weekend". I'm not saying it'll fix this idiot, but I do believe it's a pretty fair punishment.
The jail sentence is stiff, the fine should be more, the license suspension should be forever. He should never be called a hunter again, more like a ex-hunter and recovering poacher.
The problem with game law violators is a lot of people feel sorry for them when they get a part of what they really deserve. If the guy had shot and crippled a person and got 10 or 15 years everyone would think that is fine. Breaking the law is breaking the law. It is ovious that this bum is an expert at breaking the law. In an earlier comment on another question I wrote that people think it is alright to break a game law because they are not really laws. Hopefully before it is too late people will realize that violating game and fish laws is serious business.
I don't feel sorry for the guy... He got what he deserved in the eyes of the justice su=ystem... I think the jail, fines loss of hunting privilages reenforce the states willingness to prosecute poachers and sends a clear message.
However the guy is a repeat offender so more than likely he will either go back to his old ways once his sentance is up and not learn anything.
I wonder if they have the 3 strike rule/law in MN and if so that could mean that he will face a much more lengthy jail sentance if he continues on the path he has chosen
Nice He was caught, but the sad thing is here in Wisconsin and probably the same in Minnesota the fine and time for this offense is more than a multiple charge DUI!
Gee Del, the guy had an NVG mounted on a BAR? That is some hardware! I'll bet he needed the bipod! How much money did this guy spend before he even began poaching? A shootable BAR is worth how much these days? NVGs aint cheap neither! (unless you get the kids Eyeclops night vision toy- under $75 bucks for real digital night vision, nothing military grade but pretty cool).
I don't and wouldn't ever poach but that don't mean I don't have uncles and cousins up in the Maine Woods who might have done so in the distant past. I always thought poaching (at night) equated with jacking 'em with a flashlight, which is pretty low dollar, I can almost understand somebody trying to feed their family, but If yer that hard up dude, Sell the Dang BAR and feed yer dependents! Of course when you consider the domestic abuse priors, perhaps locking up this particular Yahoo does both humans and ungulates a favor.
And unfortunately the BAR will sit in an evidence locker, benefiting no-one, either as a shooter or a financial asset for likely longer than the poaching doofus will sit in jail. Pity. I know I am not fond of AR style black rifles, but a Browning Automatic Rifle is in a whole 'nother class. You can keep yer AK's and AR's, gimmie the BAR. Bonnie Parker was said to be able to handle a BAR like a Marine and it would suit me too...
Does a poacher really care if he has a license? Taking away his hunting privileges is kind of a joke, he's a poacher and obviously doesn't care if he's breaking the law!!
In Ohio the restitution to the State for this buck more than likely would be $7,500+. The fines are based on what a typical high fence trophy hunt would cost for that class buck.
good that he is arrested and sent to jail but its not long enough ashame the bucks died
There is something we all can do and that is turn in poachers! In Kansas the Kansas Bowhunters Assn has donated robotic stuffed bucks to F&S to use for for roadside stings. Some members even drive farm roads at night looking for poachers. Bella the BAR mentioned was a sporting rifle with a very expensive night scope not the military version used in the big war.
buckhunter,You hit that one out of the park!!+
What an unbelievably impressive rack!! I've hunted all of my life and have never even come close to seeing a mass of bone like that one. The man should face severe penalty's for depriving a legit hunter of claiming this outstanding trophy.
Thanks for the correction Del, easy enough to confuse the old squad LMG BAR with the sportin' version if there ain't no pictures. Still even the sportin' BAR is not a cheap rifle!
Good point about poachers not caring about their privileges being revoked, but we as a nation have to find an alternative to locking people up. It just costs too much to give every criminal free room and board. A significant part of the deficit is due to the fact that we now lock up a greater percentage of our population than even China! (So much for land of the free).
Good point Bella, I'm sure his State DNR would have plenty of projects that could be done with community service time. I also like the comment about him getting a cellmate that's in "FULL RUT". Either would be good payback.
I cannot consider any system that includes the sexual abuse of prisoners or detainees as "just". Nor will being raped in prison going to rehabilitate anyone, however many men think sexual abuse is part of the States retribution. Why would it serve justice to give one Zek opportunity to slake his tortured lust on another? It is just putting one crime on top of another! Our penal institutions are much too lawless as it is!
So give me minus points if you "cons" like, I know there are bozo's out there who will minus anything I write anyway, just because I write it, at least I know right from wrong! If you "cons" think sexual abuse of prisoners is a solution to poaching, you never learned that 2 wrongs never make a right. So much for "morality".
I should clarify, Locking a miscreant in a room with 7 foot Lizzie, the bad guy might get badly whomped on, but he wouldn't get raped. Not By Lizzie at least, she likes girls, although I am certain she might like the opportunity to correct a transgressor about the folly of domestic abuse.
WOW!! Someone needs to lighten up a little. If we/you can't have a little light hearted fun on blog I suggest you find something else to occupy your time. I don't condone RAPE either. As a hunter I just thought "FULL RUT" comment was amusing. Doesn't look like I was the only one either.
I hope he drops the soap in jail
will still hunt either way permit or no permit, let him hunt a bear with cubs only using 22 gauge
"Dropping the soap in jail" is a euphemisum for exactly what I object to...Incarceration should be about sequestering those who harm others (and possibly reforming and rehabilitating them) not about abusing people who transgress. Prison should prevent rapists from abusing others, not turn them bisexual and give them new targets. Some of those Zeks in prison are going to get out some day, do you really want them mentally ill when that day comes? Or is the idea to break men so they suicide before their term is up?
"Dropping the soap" is an ugly joke, if a joke it is at all.
It is good that he was caught and sentenced. Maybe he should be required to wear some sort of tracking device that would sound the alarm if it left the urban areas---keep him out of the woods.
bella please stop stick to the issue at hand. that would be the poacher not your ideas as far as incarceration is concerned. the guy deserves to be punished how ever the courts see fit we need to set an example to others thinking of doing the same thing.someone doing things the right way and paying to hunt deserves that deer not him.
Stuff like this makes me angry....I know from expierence how it hurts a new hunter. Before my first deer hunt, I spent my nights and weekends for an entire summer doing backbreaking work on a farm (mostly in exchange for hunting gear, tips,a place to practice my shooting, and most importantly access to some primo hunting land.) I took the farmers adivce and set out a few trail cameras and spent any spare time I had in a stand before the season started. I managed to start patterning a large 12 point when it was still in small velvet antlers and track him until about three days before season opener....thats when I read in the paper that a large 12 point buck had been "hit by a car and killed" the carcass had been found and claimed by a local businessman who happened to stumble upon it driving his kids to school. This deer was "found" on the shoulder of the road right in front of the property I was scouting...which was not anywhere near "on the way" to any school. I did go out that day to check the spot where it was "found dead"....I did not a speck of blood on the road....but I did find a fresh shell casing of a caliber than neither the farmer or I use (he owns the land on both sides of the road for miles...and he and I were the only two allowed to be shooting...and we dont shoot near the road) While I did enjoy shooting my first buck that year (a nice sized six pointer), that poacher did put a little taint on my first buck experience.
Bella, reforming and rehabilitation in prison? Now that's funny! You probably think "correction officers" are something more than jail guards. They don't correct anything or anyone.
what a monster. very nice deer. noone will ever get to claim that bruiser. what an a-hole to take that opportunity away from law abiding hunters
The man probably did not have a license to begin with and should not be able to hunt or fish again.Jail is too easy a nice long community service stent is in order.Take his gun,truck and anything else of value.He got of too easy!
The man probably did not have a license to begin with and should not be able to hunt or fish again.Jail is too easy a nice long community service stent is in order.Take his gun,truck and anything else of value.He got of too easy!
He got off way too easy!!! Putting him in jail only gives him a break. If he did it twice before this one in Oct, I'm sure he's done it plenty of other times before these 3, he just never got caught.
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What an unbelievably impressive rack!! I've hunted all of my life and have never even come close to seeing a mass of bone like that one. The man should face severe penalty's for depriving a legit hunter of claiming this outstanding trophy.World News
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Never seen such a big buck !That's a pity it had to be poached...
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This punishment won't phase him or rehabilitate him at all. Once out he will consider his debt paid and start all over again. These petty criminals need something to fear other than 245 days of rest and relaxation at our expense. Jail should mean hard labor, little rest, bread/water and one visit a year from friends and relatives. About what our young men are seeing in Iraq.
How many people pay more than $2,000 and shoot a small buck? Is a world record really only worth $1500 in fines? Take his truck, gun, house ect. The fines are what benefits sportsmen and the deer. Slam him with a fine that he can afford, then double it. He probably doesn't have anything better to do than sit in jail anyways.
Here in WV we had a exhibit that we used at fairs and other public meetings called " the Wall of Shame" It was of record book bucks that we had taken from jerks. We donated it to the Cabelas when it opened in Wheeling in our state. At least anyone can view the big bucks now. Don't make the mistake of calling them hunters. I agree with an earlier post take their hunting license for life. They may hunt again but then everyone knows they are illegal and makes it easier for us to catch them again. I spent my entire career trying to catch people like this guy and several of them bit the dust. I hope that something that I did provided an opportunity for some law abiding sportsman . Wouldn't a young hunter have to change his pants if he had killed one like that.
I think he got off way too easy. Parole violation, wife beater, poacher. Sounds like he's a winner. Why didn't he just go after it legally. I bet it would have been a 200+ inch 9 or 10 point next year.
Looks like he got what was coming to him, wish he got more time.
This low life is just one of many, how many game theifs get away with these violations every year? I think low eithics and disregard for rules and regulations come from lack up adult guidance and mentoring or from children growing up seeing adults shooting out of season, road hunting, trespassing and night hunting to name a few. I see these violations first hand in Arkansas and sadly some are my relatives. I was brought into hunting with rules and the fact if the rules were broke (ever), I'd lose my rights starting from my first hunt at age 6. Parents, uncles friends and relatives need to step up and teach our young that there is ethics and rules in hunting and in life I have cousins that think nothing of shooting rifles in bow season, shooting over the limit, shooting over private property, spotlighting and more, then enter their proudly poached trophys in big buck contest = LOW LIFES. They get away with these crimes because they know the likely hood of seeing an Arkansas Game officer in the woods during oct-feb are slim to none, mostly due to the fact there are only one game officer per county.
Well it is just a shame that this great deer was poached and his rap sheet makes it no surprise....We can only hope he gets a big cell mate in FULL RUT!!!
It really too bad that they don't just revoke poachers licenses for life. It's not like these people don't know better. They do and don't care.
"We can't always explain why people do the things they do."
He must be just an all around great guy--the poaching convictions violated his parole! Let him rot--& lock up your daughters when he gets out.
Does taking away his hunting privileges really mean anything -- the guy has already shown complete disregard for the law!
Impressive rack !
Does anyone feel that it would be wrong for the DNR to sell or lease the rack to Cabelas?
I wish they would lease it ,at least I could see it.
Thank you Mr. Rexrode,
I was just thinking that Cabelas can afford it and the DNR can use the money to go after more of these jerks.
Hunting deer is a privilege, not a right. He should loose his hunting license for life. As far as the domestic abuse thing, I think he should be locked in a room with my friend Lizzie who is a seven foot lady with attitude. Once so abused, he would likely never abuse anybody again...
On page 10 of my photo files (click my username and go to photos) there is a photo of a warden haolding the rack of a huge Kansas buck shot by poachers. This was just the biggest buck of many. The guy had a night vision scope on a Browning BAR. He should go to jail IMO.
The poaching violated his parole. Parole? Is there a pattern here. Years ago my family made an honest mistake anyone could make. Cut legs off when butchering, and forgot to load up the leg and tag when we left. We got busted, learned our lesson and have never forgotten since. That is priority 1 on our leaving camp "double-check" list now. This guy has show a repetitious blatant disregard for law and order of all forms. Maybe he will learn his lesson, I hope he does. Good job to all of those involved with the legal process here. We usually only take about officers, lawyers and judges when they do wrong. Thank you for your service.
thats a big buck! too bad it had to be poached
not trying to make poaching a good thing, but i wonder how many record book deer are really poached???!!!!
It would have been nice to see a loyal hunter take it instead of a poacher.
Good to go ... This guy got what the court system thinks is justified... However he is a repeat offender who has a criminal; history ..(domestic assault and now poaching) seems like he's on the right path in his life.
Very nice deer, too bad it had to be taken illegally. I would have loved for some young hunter to have had the chance to bag that buck!
that is an amazing 185 inch 8 point buck too bad a arrogant poacher shot it
I agree with most people that have posted thus far. I believe that his sentence should have been much more stiff. less than a year and 1500 bucks is really nothing more than a slap on the wrist. he should lose hunting privilages for life - especially since he had already broken parole. sometimes the law just isn't enough when people know they are doing wrong, and get off so easily.
And apparently I can't type this morning and forgot to "double-check" before I submit.
Sounds like we know some of the same people in AR,Cgull. I cant believe that some of them are actually proud of it!? I wont go hunting with any of these people ever! I will turn them in if I get the opportunity. The poaching line # in central AR is 8004829262. Its a shame such a magnificent animal is taken by such a low life scumbag.
He got what he deserve and awesome buck indeed!!!
The problem with game law violators is a lot of people feel sorry for them when they get a part of what they really deserve. If the guy had shot and crippled a person and got 10 or 15 years everyone would think that is fine. Breaking the law is breaking the law. It is ovious that this bum is an expert at breaking the law. In an earlier comment on another question I wrote that people think it is alright to break a game law because they are not really laws. Hopefully before it is too late people will realize that violating game and fish laws is serious business.
Man that deer is somethin, I can't imagine shootin it, but it would be awesome.
And then there will be other poachers who, after reading this story, will think they are smarter than this guy and go out and get caught. It serves them all right.
5 years. . . Hummph! Why should this guy ever be allowed to hunt again. It's Insulting.
In the words of ted nugent,"I dont like repeat offenders, I like dead offenders."
so here is my question. shouldn't he have been charged for being in possession of a firearm as well since he had a domestic violence conviction? yep, he got off way too easy on this one!
I don't think suspending a poacher's hunting priveledges sounds like a very effective deterrent. $2,000 in fines and court costs isn't exactly pocket change, nor is 245 days in jail a "long weekend". I'm not saying it'll fix this idiot, but I do believe it's a pretty fair punishment.
The jail sentence is stiff, the fine should be more, the license suspension should be forever. He should never be called a hunter again, more like a ex-hunter and recovering poacher.
I don't feel sorry for the guy... He got what he deserved in the eyes of the justice su=ystem... I think the jail, fines loss of hunting privilages reenforce the states willingness to prosecute poachers and sends a clear message.
However the guy is a repeat offender so more than likely he will either go back to his old ways once his sentance is up and not learn anything.
I wonder if they have the 3 strike rule/law in MN and if so that could mean that he will face a much more lengthy jail sentance if he continues on the path he has chosen
Does a poacher really care if he has a license? Taking away his hunting privileges is kind of a joke, he's a poacher and obviously doesn't care if he's breaking the law!!
good that he is arrested and sent to jail but its not long enough ashame the bucks died
There is something we all can do and that is turn in poachers! In Kansas the Kansas Bowhunters Assn has donated robotic stuffed bucks to F&S to use for for roadside stings. Some members even drive farm roads at night looking for poachers. Bella the BAR mentioned was a sporting rifle with a very expensive night scope not the military version used in the big war.
buckhunter,You hit that one out of the park!!+
I cannot consider any system that includes the sexual abuse of prisoners or detainees as "just". Nor will being raped in prison going to rehabilitate anyone, however many men think sexual abuse is part of the States retribution. Why would it serve justice to give one Zek opportunity to slake his tortured lust on another? It is just putting one crime on top of another! Our penal institutions are much too lawless as it is!
So give me minus points if you "cons" like, I know there are bozo's out there who will minus anything I write anyway, just because I write it, at least I know right from wrong! If you "cons" think sexual abuse of prisoners is a solution to poaching, you never learned that 2 wrongs never make a right. So much for "morality".
Nice He was caught, but the sad thing is here in Wisconsin and probably the same in Minnesota the fine and time for this offense is more than a multiple charge DUI!
In Ohio the restitution to the State for this buck more than likely would be $7,500+. The fines are based on what a typical high fence trophy hunt would cost for that class buck.
What an unbelievably impressive rack!! I've hunted all of my life and have never even come close to seeing a mass of bone like that one. The man should face severe penalty's for depriving a legit hunter of claiming this outstanding trophy.
Thanks for the correction Del, easy enough to confuse the old squad LMG BAR with the sportin' version if there ain't no pictures. Still even the sportin' BAR is not a cheap rifle!
Good point about poachers not caring about their privileges being revoked, but we as a nation have to find an alternative to locking people up. It just costs too much to give every criminal free room and board. A significant part of the deficit is due to the fact that we now lock up a greater percentage of our population than even China! (So much for land of the free).
I should clarify, Locking a miscreant in a room with 7 foot Lizzie, the bad guy might get badly whomped on, but he wouldn't get raped. Not By Lizzie at least, she likes girls, although I am certain she might like the opportunity to correct a transgressor about the folly of domestic abuse.
bella please stop stick to the issue at hand. that would be the poacher not your ideas as far as incarceration is concerned. the guy deserves to be punished how ever the courts see fit we need to set an example to others thinking of doing the same thing.someone doing things the right way and paying to hunt deserves that deer not him.
Stuff like this makes me angry....I know from expierence how it hurts a new hunter. Before my first deer hunt, I spent my nights and weekends for an entire summer doing backbreaking work on a farm (mostly in exchange for hunting gear, tips,a place to practice my shooting, and most importantly access to some primo hunting land.) I took the farmers adivce and set out a few trail cameras and spent any spare time I had in a stand before the season started. I managed to start patterning a large 12 point when it was still in small velvet antlers and track him until about three days before season opener....thats when I read in the paper that a large 12 point buck had been "hit by a car and killed" the carcass had been found and claimed by a local businessman who happened to stumble upon it driving his kids to school. This deer was "found" on the shoulder of the road right in front of the property I was scouting...which was not anywhere near "on the way" to any school. I did go out that day to check the spot where it was "found dead"....I did not a speck of blood on the road....but I did find a fresh shell casing of a caliber than neither the farmer or I use (he owns the land on both sides of the road for miles...and he and I were the only two allowed to be shooting...and we dont shoot near the road) While I did enjoy shooting my first buck that year (a nice sized six pointer), that poacher did put a little taint on my first buck experience.
Bella, reforming and rehabilitation in prison? Now that's funny! You probably think "correction officers" are something more than jail guards. They don't correct anything or anyone.
sorry dont like this kind of guy especially this one inchirieri masini
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Good point Bella, I'm sure his State DNR would have plenty of projects that could be done with community service time. I also like the comment about him getting a cellmate that's in "FULL RUT". Either would be good payback.
WOW!! Someone needs to lighten up a little. If we/you can't have a little light hearted fun on blog I suggest you find something else to occupy your time. I don't condone RAPE either. As a hunter I just thought "FULL RUT" comment was amusing. Doesn't look like I was the only one either.
I hope he drops the soap in jail
will still hunt either way permit or no permit, let him hunt a bear with cubs only using 22 gauge
It is good that he was caught and sentenced. Maybe he should be required to wear some sort of tracking device that would sound the alarm if it left the urban areas---keep him out of the woods.
what a monster. very nice deer. noone will ever get to claim that bruiser. what an a-hole to take that opportunity away from law abiding hunters
The man probably did not have a license to begin with and should not be able to hunt or fish again.Jail is too easy a nice long community service stent is in order.Take his gun,truck and anything else of value.He got of too easy!
The man probably did not have a license to begin with and should not be able to hunt or fish again.Jail is too easy a nice long community service stent is in order.Take his gun,truck and anything else of value.He got of too easy!
He got off way too easy!!! Putting him in jail only gives him a break. If he did it twice before this one in Oct, I'm sure he's done it plenty of other times before these 3, he just never got caught.
People do some unecessary things. But glad he was caught and went to jail. gym
What an unbelievably impressive rack!! I've hunted all of my life and have never even come close to seeing a mass of bone like that one. The man should face severe penalty's for depriving a legit hunter of claiming this outstanding trophy.World News
He got off way too easy!!! Putting him in jail only gives him a break. If he did it twice before this one in Oct, I'm sure he's done it plenty of other times before these 3, he just never got caught.News 245/" rel="dofollow">News 245
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Never seen such a big buck !That's a pity it had to be poached...
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Stuff like this makes me angry....I know from expierence how it hurts a new hunter. منتديات Before my first deer hunt, مسجات I spent my nights and weekends for an entire summer doing backbreaking work on a farm (mostly in exchange for hunting gear, tips, وسائط a place to practice my shooting, توبيكات and most importantly access to some primo hunting land.) I took the farmers adivce and set out a few trail cameras and spent any spare time I had in a stand before the season started. I managed to start patterning a large 12 point when it was still in small velvet antlers and track him until about three days before season opener....thats when I read in the paper that a large 12 point buck had been "hit by a car and killed" the carcass had been found and claimed by a local businessman who happened to stumble upon it driving his kids to school. ماسنجر This deer was "found" on the shoulder of the road right in front of the property I was scouting...which was not anywhere near "on the way" to any school. I did go out that day to check the spot where it was "found dead"....I did not a speck of blood on the road....but I did find a fresh shell casing of a caliber than neither the farmer or I use (he owns the land on both sides of the road for miles...and he and I were the only two allowed to be shooting...and we dont shoot near the road) While I did enjoy shooting my first buck that year (a nice sized six pointer), that poacher did put a little taint on my first buck experience.
Gee Del, the guy had an NVG mounted on a BAR? That is some hardware! I'll bet he needed the bipod! How much money did this guy spend before he even began poaching? A shootable BAR is worth how much these days? NVGs aint cheap neither! (unless you get the kids Eyeclops night vision toy- under $75 bucks for real digital night vision, nothing military grade but pretty cool).
I don't and wouldn't ever poach but that don't mean I don't have uncles and cousins up in the Maine Woods who might have done so in the distant past. I always thought poaching (at night) equated with jacking 'em with a flashlight, which is pretty low dollar, I can almost understand somebody trying to feed their family, but If yer that hard up dude, Sell the Dang BAR and feed yer dependents! Of course when you consider the domestic abuse priors, perhaps locking up this particular Yahoo does both humans and ungulates a favor.
And unfortunately the BAR will sit in an evidence locker, benefiting no-one, either as a shooter or a financial asset for likely longer than the poaching doofus will sit in jail. Pity. I know I am not fond of AR style black rifles, but a Browning Automatic Rifle is in a whole 'nother class. You can keep yer AK's and AR's, gimmie the BAR. Bonnie Parker was said to be able to handle a BAR like a Marine and it would suit me too...
"Dropping the soap in jail" is a euphemisum for exactly what I object to...Incarceration should be about sequestering those who harm others (and possibly reforming and rehabilitating them) not about abusing people who transgress. Prison should prevent rapists from abusing others, not turn them bisexual and give them new targets. Some of those Zeks in prison are going to get out some day, do you really want them mentally ill when that day comes? Or is the idea to break men so they suicide before their term is up?
"Dropping the soap" is an ugly joke, if a joke it is at all.
I think that this man got alot worse than what he deserved. He should have gotten a fine and lost his licenses, but locking him up; thats just crazy!!!!!!
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