


March 22, 2010
Will Your Wife Ruin Your Gun Dog?
By David DiBenedetto

Okay, readers, in the name of journalism I’m tackling a thorny subject—and one that could land me in the proverbial doghouse. A couple of months ago I ran a post with the above photo of my wife, Jenny, cradling Pritch when she was a 7-week-old pup. As I’ve said before, I got very lucky when I landed Jenny. Among a host of other great attributes, she loves to cook wild game, can handle herself on a fishing boat with aplomb, and just adores Pritch—which according to some commenters here just might be the pup’s downfall.
Man’s Best Friend regular, Clay Cooper, started things off with some good-natured ribbing after he saw the photo:
Trying to figure out in the picture, who is more spoiled?
And Jim in Mo followed up with this advice:
…If that dog is going to hunt get him away from that pretty girl, she will only make him her baby, she's already in love with him. I'm kidding but actually not.
Jenny and I got a good laugh out of it, of course, but I think a part of her was a bit offended. She has been involved in much of Pritch’s training process, often serving as the bird girl, hunt test support group, and grievance councilor. She also reinforces Pritch’s obedience training on walks and even around the house. And the truth is, when I became exasperated when training Pritch to HEEL, Jenny was the one who eventually broke through with the pup.
But does Jenny spoil Pritch? To borrow a line from a famous poet: "Let me count the ways..." I often call her the Chief Spoiler. Her new favorite pastime is snuggling up on the couch at night with the dog. But the truth is I’m delighted my wife loves the dog and vice versa. And I’m not worried about it affecting Pritch’s gun dog training. The biggest obstacles there are those created by my own amateur abilities (or rather inabilities).
So fellow gun doggers, I’m curious of your thoughts. Do you keep your spouse and gun dogs separate? (Notice I’m using the word “spouse” because I know a few families where the wife does the training and the husband does the spoiling.) Have any stories of your spouse spoiling your gun dog rotten?
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My 2 cents is that "spoiling" doesn't ruin a dog. Not enforcing commands when you do or don't want them to do something is the killer. My wife is often sitting on the couch with an enormous dog's head across her knees. No problem. The problem is that she has aslo taught them that repetetive nudging will turn "lay down" into "ok, come here." I have no trouble getting them to obey me one on one in that situation, but the dynamic changes when the missus in the room. It's a disease too, creeps into every command you can think up without constantly fighting it. It's like having a kid who always appeals to the other parent. They learn they can.
Unfortunately, I think it is an equal opportunity event in our house. It's funny how you start on the straight and narrow and it starts to meander after a while... That does not mean slack on the obedience, but the other little things like the occasional fork of leftover from the table.
My wife's biggest spoiling act would be giving out treats frequently for something like "Come." In her defense she is playing in the backyard and neighbors might be walking their dog or something where if my dog heads that way, she could be an annoyance. She's only trying to make sure the dog comes back when she calls it. I see the problem occasionally when I try to call her in the backyard and she doesn't come right away. A lot of "spoiling" of my dog comes about by me or the wife, but I don't see it affecting her hunting or obeying commands as long as she knows the boundaries.
Personal expiernce. If you want to keep her from spoiling your dog get her pregnant. Then she will spoil the new baby and not the dog. LOL
Dogs are by nature a herding animal. They need companionship as much as we do. They appreciate adoring contact just as we do. So no, cuddling your dog is not damaging, in fact I know it makes for a healthier, happier dog. As long as it is in appropriate potions. Sometimes a dog needs to be yelled at or reprimanded if what they do is dangerous to their or someones well being. But after a long day and a job well done, there is nothing wrong with curling up on the couch next to you.
Of course, mine sleep where a wife would sleep. They eat better than most wives. And they go out for fun every day and get treats and cookies when we get back.The benefits of being companions to an Old Man.
No such thing as too much love for a dog. Just as there is no such thing as too much obedience. Both in equal measure, for the pup, that is ;p
A happy dog ( meaninig "spoiled") will work it's heart out for you.
meaning*
spoiling won't ruin the dog, as long as at the end of the day there is discipline and the dog doesn't run the house. some of the best bird dogs i've known have their own chair and get a plate at dinner.
let me clear that up, not a chair at the dinner table but a chair in the house that is their's almost exclusively.
Well being that my wife the "love of my life" [she claims that would be the dogs] is out here reading this,I couldn't possibly say...YES.
There may be the possiblity that she feeds the dogs before me in mornings and evenings[with a fried egg on top] ,that one dog think she should get the bird first.
Honestly ,I told her that I only wanted one good gun dog and I think she's holding me to it.
jmiles,
Just get her pregnant hahaha that's a good way to go.
Sounds like you need to buy her a shotgun-- one that fits you incase she don't like it.
I'm the enforcer in our house: my boyfriend's little terrier is spoiled rotten! "oh she's too cold let her under your blanket! " "oh she's muddy she needs a bath can she use your shampoo? " ugh. do I get such special treatment, no!
Absolutely not! There is no such thing as too much socialization, pampering or affection for a gun dog. See the closing remarks of the TV hunting program, "Hunting with Hank."
it's just been me and my dog for so long, i don't know how he would act around a girl. i'm still waiting for him to drag one home.
I believe that bonding with the dog only makes them want to please you more. If some people want to call that spoiled so be it. I call it compainionship.... As long as the obedience is there.
Just got my wife not to let my 3 1/2 month old boykin not to sleep in the bed with her when Im working nights. I also found out she was giving him cheese to help him use the potty faster outside which then turned into him running out and then right back in without going cause he thought he would get cheese that way. Finally broke him of that. in her defense she has helped with other basic obedience training and she hasn't ruined him YET!
I knew the first time I saw Briley curled up with "mommy" on our $3500.00 Tempurpedic mattress to say "nite nite" I was in trouble. Can`t blame him though, I mean I don`t want to get out of it either! I just hate being the ogre every night!
While I jumped into the world of gun dogs and children at about the same time, I have noticed a ton of similarities. (and wether she will admit it or not, so has my wife) spoiling can help strengthen bonds at times, but must be done in moderation like anything else. Dogs are just like kids, only cleaner.
My wife, I must admit, is the stricter (? more strict) trainer of the house. She set about as many rules for me training the dogs as she did the dogs.
She was right, though. Even spoiling the dogs with treats, you have to remind them who is in charge of the pack. Ours sit for treats, wait sitting to go out, and do not beg at the table. They will sit or lay nearby and wait for us to finish. Their reward usually is a bit saved for them.
They're spoiled, but behaved. Well, unless someone walks a dog in front of the house, but we're working on that.
How not to spoil a dog: Years ago I was in charge of a local DU chapter and we did a chapter swap for a Piedmont quail hunt for a low country duck hunt. The duck hunters brought enough shells and beer for a week of duck hunting. We put them on a jam-up hunt. They rewarded their dogs with a separate room at the motel and put 10 lbs of raw hamburger in the bathtub. When they opened the door the next morning, the room was covered with poop, undigested meat, and dog puke. The dogs were as sick as, er, dogs; the room looked like a scene from the Texas Chainsaw massacre.
that's way wrong!!!
I think a spoiled dog would be just fine. The connection grows. As long as you keep the training up, the dog sould be good.
I think training goes hand and hand with spoiling. My dog thinks a Doken being tossed for him is better then any treat he can get. But mine also know who to snuggle up to, if he wants food. I try to train him to be the best that I know how too and the wife looks at me like I'm to mean and cuddles him. And to all the guys who say knock her up so she won't "ruin" the dog I wonder if she spoils him so much what will she do to a kid??
I believe that everyone in the family should be helping with the training and with affection. This way the dog knows the no matter what any of them tell me, to do that it must be good for me and that I want to love and respect them all.
In all reality he's only my dog 4 months out of the year the rest of the time he thinks he's hers.
You guy's are so professional and handle the dogs nicely. I wish I could afford your services for my 8 month old GSP. Do you have any videos for point training?
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My 2 cents is that "spoiling" doesn't ruin a dog. Not enforcing commands when you do or don't want them to do something is the killer. My wife is often sitting on the couch with an enormous dog's head across her knees. No problem. The problem is that she has aslo taught them that repetetive nudging will turn "lay down" into "ok, come here." I have no trouble getting them to obey me one on one in that situation, but the dynamic changes when the missus in the room. It's a disease too, creeps into every command you can think up without constantly fighting it. It's like having a kid who always appeals to the other parent. They learn they can.
Personal expiernce. If you want to keep her from spoiling your dog get her pregnant. Then she will spoil the new baby and not the dog. LOL
Dogs are by nature a herding animal. They need companionship as much as we do. They appreciate adoring contact just as we do. So no, cuddling your dog is not damaging, in fact I know it makes for a healthier, happier dog. As long as it is in appropriate potions. Sometimes a dog needs to be yelled at or reprimanded if what they do is dangerous to their or someones well being. But after a long day and a job well done, there is nothing wrong with curling up on the couch next to you.
No such thing as too much love for a dog. Just as there is no such thing as too much obedience. Both in equal measure, for the pup, that is ;p
it's just been me and my dog for so long, i don't know how he would act around a girl. i'm still waiting for him to drag one home.
My wife, I must admit, is the stricter (? more strict) trainer of the house. She set about as many rules for me training the dogs as she did the dogs.
She was right, though. Even spoiling the dogs with treats, you have to remind them who is in charge of the pack. Ours sit for treats, wait sitting to go out, and do not beg at the table. They will sit or lay nearby and wait for us to finish. Their reward usually is a bit saved for them.
They're spoiled, but behaved. Well, unless someone walks a dog in front of the house, but we're working on that.
Of course, mine sleep where a wife would sleep. They eat better than most wives. And they go out for fun every day and get treats and cookies when we get back.The benefits of being companions to an Old Man.
Unfortunately, I think it is an equal opportunity event in our house. It's funny how you start on the straight and narrow and it starts to meander after a while... That does not mean slack on the obedience, but the other little things like the occasional fork of leftover from the table.
Absolutely not! There is no such thing as too much socialization, pampering or affection for a gun dog. See the closing remarks of the TV hunting program, "Hunting with Hank."
spoiling won't ruin the dog, as long as at the end of the day there is discipline and the dog doesn't run the house. some of the best bird dogs i've known have their own chair and get a plate at dinner.
My wife's biggest spoiling act would be giving out treats frequently for something like "Come." In her defense she is playing in the backyard and neighbors might be walking their dog or something where if my dog heads that way, she could be an annoyance. She's only trying to make sure the dog comes back when she calls it. I see the problem occasionally when I try to call her in the backyard and she doesn't come right away. A lot of "spoiling" of my dog comes about by me or the wife, but I don't see it affecting her hunting or obeying commands as long as she knows the boundaries.
jmiles,
Just get her pregnant hahaha that's a good way to go.
Well being that my wife the "love of my life" [she claims that would be the dogs] is out here reading this,I couldn't possibly say...YES.
There may be the possiblity that she feeds the dogs before me in mornings and evenings[with a fried egg on top] ,that one dog think she should get the bird first.
Honestly ,I told her that I only wanted one good gun dog and I think she's holding me to it.
Sounds like you need to buy her a shotgun-- one that fits you incase she don't like it.
that's way wrong!!!
let me clear that up, not a chair at the dinner table but a chair in the house that is their's almost exclusively.
While I jumped into the world of gun dogs and children at about the same time, I have noticed a ton of similarities. (and wether she will admit it or not, so has my wife) spoiling can help strengthen bonds at times, but must be done in moderation like anything else. Dogs are just like kids, only cleaner.
I think a spoiled dog would be just fine. The connection grows. As long as you keep the training up, the dog sould be good.
A happy dog ( meaninig "spoiled") will work it's heart out for you.
meaning*
Just got my wife not to let my 3 1/2 month old boykin not to sleep in the bed with her when Im working nights. I also found out she was giving him cheese to help him use the potty faster outside which then turned into him running out and then right back in without going cause he thought he would get cheese that way. Finally broke him of that. in her defense she has helped with other basic obedience training and she hasn't ruined him YET!
I'm the enforcer in our house: my boyfriend's little terrier is spoiled rotten! "oh she's too cold let her under your blanket! " "oh she's muddy she needs a bath can she use your shampoo? " ugh. do I get such special treatment, no!
How not to spoil a dog: Years ago I was in charge of a local DU chapter and we did a chapter swap for a Piedmont quail hunt for a low country duck hunt. The duck hunters brought enough shells and beer for a week of duck hunting. We put them on a jam-up hunt. They rewarded their dogs with a separate room at the motel and put 10 lbs of raw hamburger in the bathtub. When they opened the door the next morning, the room was covered with poop, undigested meat, and dog puke. The dogs were as sick as, er, dogs; the room looked like a scene from the Texas Chainsaw massacre.
I knew the first time I saw Briley curled up with "mommy" on our $3500.00 Tempurpedic mattress to say "nite nite" I was in trouble. Can`t blame him though, I mean I don`t want to get out of it either! I just hate being the ogre every night!
I believe that bonding with the dog only makes them want to please you more. If some people want to call that spoiled so be it. I call it compainionship.... As long as the obedience is there.
I believe that everyone in the family should be helping with the training and with affection. This way the dog knows the no matter what any of them tell me, to do that it must be good for me and that I want to love and respect them all.
In all reality he's only my dog 4 months out of the year the rest of the time he thinks he's hers.
I think training goes hand and hand with spoiling. My dog thinks a Doken being tossed for him is better then any treat he can get. But mine also know who to snuggle up to, if he wants food. I try to train him to be the best that I know how too and the wife looks at me like I'm to mean and cuddles him. And to all the guys who say knock her up so she won't "ruin" the dog I wonder if she spoils him so much what will she do to a kid??
You guy's are so professional and handle the dogs nicely. I wish I could afford your services for my 8 month old GSP. Do you have any videos for point training?
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