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June 02, 2010

Hurteau: Will You Watch Competitive Deer Hunting?

By Dave Hurteau

Here we go again. Remember the World Hunting Association’s infamous 2006 attempt to organize—and televise—professional deer hunting competitions? Remember the backlash from hunters and hunting groups? The WHA’s plan to tranquilize (which eventually became a plan to kill) high-fence bucks in order to tally their racks and award prizes to “pros” mercifully fizzled. At the time, many hunters hoped that the concept’s very public failure might keep deer hunting’s equivalent of BASS at bay for a while.

Well, not for long apparently.

"Deer hunting competition is going to happen," Greg Koch recently told the Tulsa World Sports Extra. "It's just been a matter of time and finding the right way to do it." And Koch, an Oklahoma hunting-ranch manager who is touring Bass Pro Shops nationwide with his family this summer to launch the American Whitetail Authority deer hunting competitions—thinks he’s found the right way. Koch’s plan is fundamentally different from that of the doomed WHA’s, in which deer would have been either tranquilized or killed in the name of competition and entertainment. In the AWA plan, deer would be largely passive participants, “shot” only with a scope that takes a picture when a blank is fired.

In essence, it seems to be a live, big-buck photo contest—and one with some heavy hitters behind it.

From the article:
Don Rucks, former vice president and general manager of ESPN/BASS, has worked with Koch since late 2006.

"This is the most exciting news in white-tailed deer hunting in a long time. It's the start of a new era," Rucks said. "I know that's a big statement, but I believe it… ." The nation's top professional bass angler agrees. Kevin VanDam, all-time money winner on the Bassmaster Tournament trail, five-time Angler of The Year and three-time Bassmaster Classic Champion, put his face and name behind the cause. A gigantic photo of himself with hands raised in victory graces the side of Koch's camo-wrapped motor home. The avid deer hunter… said the sport could be of great benefit to deer hunters everywhere….

"Just like it has in tournament fishing, you will see techniques that people wouldn't think could happen."

Koch’s conviction that organized, professional “deer hunting competition is going to happen” seems to assume there’s an audience for it—because it can’t very well succeed without one. And that audience would presumably be, well, you (along with all your fellow sportsmen and women). So I put it to you: Do you want competitive deer hunting, ala BASS? More to the point: Will you watch?

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from uplander12 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I may stop for a second if I'm flipping through channels but I'm not going to set my DVR or anything like that.

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from Bryan01 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

No, absolutely not, NFW

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from WVOtter wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

There is no good reason behind a deer hunting competition (aside from bragging rights with your buddies or sense of accomplishment against ones self). Hunting should never be put in the context of a reality TV competition, it is a sacred activity that deserves more respect. Hunting programing exists, and often done tastefully. But as soon as you put it in the same league as "Survivor" or "The Apprentice", or have competitors like that X-game, goateed goofball on Bassmaster as the face of the sport, hunting will lose credibility and support from those outside the sport.

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from gman3186 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I don’t know if you could call that hunting. In hunting there is no catch and release, you have a different mind set when you go in to take a picture of a deer rather than put a bullet in him. In my opinion competitive deer hunting has been around for many years deer camp big buck contest now that’s competitive hunting when one person kills a buck you hunt that much harder to kill one bigger. As far taking a rifle in the woods that only takes pictures that’s not for me I will get all the pictures I need after he is on the ground really this idea is just competitive photography.

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from gman3186 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

are they going to try and get people who actually deer hunt to do this.cuz good luck with that

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from countitandone wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Do I want it? Not in my woods. Will I watch it? I rather be tied to a chair and forced to watch American Idol...

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from seadog wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I'll pass. If I didn't know better, I'd think this story was a joke.

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from idduckhntr wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

One of the dumbest things I have heard of. WTF are these people thinkig?

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from Mike Diehl wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Not a chance I would spend ten seconds watching such a joke. I wouldn't watch any kind of hunting TV, high fence or otherwise. I've no interest in what the landed gentry get to do.

Hunting is a participant thing for me. I'd rather do it than watch it. Then, too, I'd rather paint my house than watch a hunting show.

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from Beekeeper wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

NO! What a lame attempt at marketing... Professional deer hunting indeed...

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from jjas wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

If I want to watch tournament hunting, there's plenty of it on the TV now. You have "professional" hunters killing big bucks on manicured properties with free gear provided by manufacturers. Isn't that bad enough?

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from Sinkingrocket wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Wouldn't a round of Cabela's Big Game Hunter on the pc serve the same purpose?

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from Koldkut wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Seems the F&S bloggers already know the fate of this show.

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from buckhunter wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

This fits right in with the rest of the crap they have on tv. So without a doubt I will watch it until my mind is numb and I slowly become an alcoholic.

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from ricefarm wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Just more proof we have WAY too many TV channels.
Now, for the real question: If you were forced to chose between watching golf, bowling or competitive deer hunting, which would you choose? Should we throw soccer into the mix?

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from senkoman12 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

even proposing that disgusts me thats what gives us a bad name at least the bassmasters are catch an release

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from horseman308 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I have no intention of watching anything of the sort. I have a hard enough time watching the hunting shows that are on now. They feel like infomercials for whatever sponsors are producing the show.

I suppose part of my disgust at this idea comes from the fact that I'm not a very competitive person. I very rarely give a crap about whether I win or lose at something, unless I haven't performed to the best of my ability. The only person I care about beating is myself. So, why would I care if someone kills a bigger deer than me? I don't. Therefore, why would I care about watching other people try to one-up each other. I wouldn't.

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from horseman308 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I have no intention of watching anything of the sort. I have a hard enough time watching the hunting shows that are on now. They feel like infomercials for whatever sponsors are producing the show.

I suppose part of my disgust at this idea comes from the fact that I'm not a very competitive person. I very rarely give a crap about whether I win or lose at something, unless I haven't performed to the best of my ability. The only person I care about beating is myself. So, why would I care if someone kills a bigger deer than me? I don't. Therefore, why would I care about watching other people try to one-up each other? I wouldn't.

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from vtbluegrass wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

First, I just lost a lot of respect for KVD. That is a pathetic thing to have your face associated with.

Second, how in the heck is this supposed to benefit hunters? I only see this adding confusion about hunting. Soon groups will wondering why don;t we all just take pictures instead of killing. I know the kill isn't supposed to be the whole hunt but its a pretty dang important to what the essence of hunting is. If you don't intend at some point to take the life of the animal it is only photography.
And great its another group that wants nothing but big antlers. I mean the photo competition can't even claim to have good backstraps too. They are only in it for the antler picture. QDMA and the search for more antler has probably taken as much land as development from the average deer hunter who can't afford expensive leases. When deer hunting became marketed as just antler quest people became land hogs and everyone needed a personal thousand acre ranch that no one else can hunt for fear of shooting a deer not on the management plan. Hell the past two years I have all but given up deer hunting because even the local farmers want hundreds of dollars to gain access and the only affordable leases are crap land with too many people on the lease. Once the first rich man paid him to hunt the farmers don't really care if you offer labor in exchange. Hold on, I am ranting. That is all.

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from Jere Smith wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

NFW,

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from Big C wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Is this really anything more than amateur picture taking? So someone is going to produce a show about someone taking pictures….you can’t really call this hunting.

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from shane wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Hunting isn't a competition. It's a conservation practice, a means for feeding yourself, and a spiritual thing for many. Not a game. Not a fan of this.

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from walmsley wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Why in the hell will they have to "Fire a Blank"! It's a photo contest! period-That's it- Good luck to them- No REAL deer hunter would get involved in this unless they are a want-to-be Deer TV Whore-and there's plenty of them on the Outdoor Channel!!!!

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from muskiemaster wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

come on ricefarm, at least leave soccer and golf out of the mix seeing as they actually are legitimate sports. (my sympathy comes from being in both sports)

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from Del in KS wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I have no use for BASS. I know for a fact that many of those fish die after they release them.

Sure as heck would not watch some dudes chase deer (in a pen or otherwise). These guys are trying to turn deer hunting into yet another way (for them) to make a buck (no pun intended).

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from Hoski wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I won't watch. Don't watch BASS. Don't read magazines' articles concerning BASS Masters either.
I regularly skip over inch and spread measurements included with trophy pics in all publications. Just not impressed. Outdoor sports are a pleasure thing for me, not a competition.

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from Jere Smith wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I like Bass on a plate!! Yummy.

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from Pa deer hunter wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

It would not be real hunting it's just another gimmic for someone to make money. no real hunters would have anything to do with it.

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from MLH wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

It might happen but, likely, only once.

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from Walt Smith wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Deer hunting ain't NASCAR asshole!

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from prairieghost wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

no, no no ! ! !

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from Bones812 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

The whole deal smells cheezy. I for one wont be watching that crap.Just reading how it's supposed to play out sounds boring. really who the heck is going to sit there and waite for a person in a blind or tree stand to take a picture. Boring!!!!!!!!!

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from fliphuntr14 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

its just not a real draw there is a hunt for the biggest buck but its not like that of the hunt for big fish. It seems for more personal gratification then public. i may watch it but im not a die hard fan.

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from JOHN ANDERSON wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

buckhunter,Clasic!!!LOL!!

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from Sidewinder wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

To Greg Koch, Don Rucks, and Kevin VanDam: you are all major-league, grade A douchebags. It will not be watched in my home, and sponsors will not be patronized. Are you listening, Bass Pro Shops?

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from 007 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Nope!! Jackie Bushman has taken that about as far as can be done thoughtfully and tastefully. Leave the competition on the ball fields and courts.

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from MPEK wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Like it or not guys , This is the way its going to go .Our sport of hunting has grown in leaps and bounds from the moneys generated by comercialization and business .And as Vtbluegrass stated , It is only photogaphy , which is all together another activity.. Exploiting the word "hunting" will take us a step backwords in the long run .. This will only fuel the anti's with the exposure

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from ejunk wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

no way. immature as all get out.

yrs-
Evan!

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from Don Mitchell wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

horseman308
you just made my day.+1 for you. this has to be the best joke Ive heard in a month. Or worst?

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from Whackdaddy wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I hate this.

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from Whackdaddy wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I hate this.

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from AJMcClure wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

My club is a deer hunting tournament, the biggest buck wins the pot which almost pays the members dues, the one year I didn't chip in the pot I harvested the biggest buck, but keep in mind this is not a high fence operation, and taking a legal doe for the Saturday feast is as important as winning the pot. You can't eat antlers.

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from Amflyer wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Wonder if anyone associated with this idea is monitoring these comments. What a bad idea. Shame on them.

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from Koldkut wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

And one other thing, why is the whitetail the standard? I'd rather hunt Mulies.

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from Bella wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

No, I wouldn't watch this either. I like to Do stuff, not watch stuff. I prefer active behaviors to passive. I know advertisers are always trying to come up with new ways to market the latest stuff, but I also like to Make my own stuff, so marketing ploys based on bloodsport aren't attractive to me, even if I might be into a little bloodsport from time to time. Do, don't watch. Make it your self, and the effort you expend is an advertisement of your quality, rather than touting the efforts of those who make nothing themselves, but get others to do it cheaply so they can make a buck selling their undervalued labor.

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from bberg7794 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

No-Absolutely not!

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from 60256 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Koldkut,
Most people on the show would not be talented enough to hunt mule deer. My guess would be that the show would have everybody sitting in a stand all day.

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from huntenthusiest wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

What kind of "Pro" do you have to be to get a photo of a deer?

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from Bellringer wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Call me a dinosaur if you will, but I would never have anything good to say about the proposed deer photograph scheme. I even thing that BASS is the biggest crock of hog drippings that I ever heard of.

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from tmbryant wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I'm a fan of Mike Biggs' wildlife photography. You have to be at the right place and right time to get the photos that he gets. It takes as much hunting skill for him to get the photos that he gets as it does to bow hunt. He also has to have access to where those big bucks are which is probably high fence. If I was going to hunt a high fence area where you have to add up your check book before you can decide to shoot a deer, I'd probably have to take it with a camera. As there is no deer alive worth paying the kind of money that it takes to hunt high fence operations to me.

I am not a fan of the hunting shows where the guys are whispering to beat the band while they watch a buck come into bow range. It's amazing to me that they ever get a shot with a bow from all the noise that they are making. Then when they get one, the goo goo gaa gaa attitude they have turns me off. I also would prefer that these kinds of shows don't show deer being hit by the the bullet or arrow. I think that is in poor taste and is just ammunition for the anti hunters.

As far as the question, no, I'm not going to watch competitive deer hunting whether they shoot the deer with a rifle or shoot the deer with a camera. I don't think that I've ever learned anything about hunting deer from watching televised hunting programs. For the most part, they are a waste of time as is most television.

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from woodsmanj35 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Great, A family who wants to get rich desides to try to make a super lame show that gives hunting a bad face. A photograph contest? on TV? And it's supposed to be a hunting show? give me a big fat break!

Hunting is supposed to be about a contest, not between two people but between an animal and human, a battle of skill. Hunting is supposed to be about the experience of being in the outdoors, hunting is about becoming apart of nature. today our society is trying to beat nature, today hunting is all about the money, and who can get the biggest buck, its about killing not hunting.

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from tom warner wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

A totally poor idea. I also violently disapprove of all fishing competitions, which just demeans the whole sport. When competition and $$ is introduced into hunting and fishing, it just ruins everything. What is the matter with these people? I surely hope that they will fail, big time!

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from blcassady wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

This is just about the most stupidest, idiotic, lame-brain idea to come out yet - IMOP. I can't stand most of the 'hunting' videos that are shown on the outdoor shows as it is now - how in the hell do they EVER think that a hunting competition is something we could ever stomach long enough for a "sponsor's 100% Snakeoil Treatment" to be properly hawked to a captivated audience?? LOL - If the Big Names are really behind this idea, they better scramble fast to protect their reputations... That's what I think about anyway!

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from jsnsalzman wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I think televised hunting competitions is a horrible idea. It takes away the purity of the sport. Also that much pressure could cause accidents in the field that could have been avoided.

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from countitandone wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Hey Koldkut, I invite you to Nevada, mulies are the only deer here. If you want to see a whitetail here, you gotta buy an issue of F&S...I look at mags just so I can remember what they look like.

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from simmshunter wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Not a chance count me out. Deer hunting or hunting in general is not a game to be played.

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from Koldkut wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

Countitandone, I'm in Colorado, we have a whitetail and mulies here, you do come across the occasional springer(cross) as well. I've shot 4 doe's and got my first lulie buck this past year, it's the only pic I've uploaded here so far. I always pass on those whitetails. Most folks just don't understand that when you see a nice mulie buck, the first thing that goes through your head is "ELK" before you realize what you are really seeing.

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from Derek St.Romain wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

Im with bluegrass. Why the hell would you have a contest on who can take a pic of the biggest deer and call it a hunting anything? then all the anti's will seperate us even more by the "Killer" hunters and the good lil green pic hunters....somebody has to stop this, Hey Ron Spommer, get some of your buddies together and go protest for the good of all hunting. He talked of the exact thing in season 2 of Whitetail revolution...and larry weishun said he was all for hunting contests.
I am all for Rodeo type local events to get sportsmen/women together and have a friendly bragging rights get together, but not in a TV forum with cash and prizes and sponsorship..... no good came come of this. IMO.

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from countitandone wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

Koldkut, no I haven't run across a springer or heard from anyone here who has. I do know that the hybrid, the offspring of two different yet similar deer, are sterile. This happens often in Europe and Africa with those continents' large, diverse deer populations during the rut.

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from Zermoid wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

Awww Hell No!

Hunting is a participant sport, not a spectator sport, I don't even like hunting shows. Why would I watch some schmuck sneaking around to take pictures of deer???

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from Hank111 wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

I may be wrong, but I dont believe mule deer/ whitetail hybrids are sterile. Some have been tested and found to be 2nd and 3rd generation, like the grizzly/polar bear hybrid shot. The whitetail bucks are more dominate than the mulies despite the size differance. Its hard to believe the mule deer would still be pure if this is true though.

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from MPN wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

Don't hunters already look bad in most of the public's eyes? This just sounds like another way for the respectable hunters to get a bad rep. Like there aren't enough ways already.....

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from Pronger wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

MPN,
I believe it was you who mentioned bambi in backlash and blowback as one of those ways haha

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from Del in KS wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

I grew up in Lake County Fla which is loaded with good bass lakes. A day after (a few years ago) they had a tournament on Lake Yale there was about 50 dead Largemouth Bass around the docks where they were released after the weigh in. This lake has fairly clear water so you could see them on the bottom. Most lakes are not so clear so you don't see all the fish they kill. They claim the high ground because they release all the fish but this is the dirty little secret. That is why I have no use for fishing tournaments.

This hunting contest thing would be nothing but more infomercials like most of the hunting shows already on Outdoor Channel.

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from Jim in Mo wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

Pronger if that really is you, I wish the cheap ass Lowry, (is that correct name, married to wal-mart gal), would have kept you in STL. Good luck and leave end of game pucks on ice. Ha, LOL jim

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from Pronger wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

Jim,
Go where the money is. Those pucks will sell pretty high on ebay. Tune in 8:00 tonight.

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from MPN wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

Prongs,
Yes that was me who cited bambi.

Keep kane hurting out there. I got money on philly winning!

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from bthomasb1 wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

This idea really sucks,as for me I dont even wath the so fake hunting shows on tv now,I cant see the tv from my treestand to many leaves in the way

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from Jeff4066 wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

I've "hunted" deer with a camera before. It is just photography.

I only hunt to eat what I shoot also.

No, I don't watch television hunting, no matter how they package it. Like other "reality" shows, it will, however, cater to, attract, and amuse some percentage of the unenlightened.

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from yohan wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

Obso-f^^king- utly not,..
Tournament bass (killing ) fishing scrapes the bottoom of the barrel enough ,..but warm blooded animals ??
would need both legs and one arm broken before watching that !!!

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from Clay Cooper wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

This as distasteful as running thru town on Sunday morning with a deer strapped across your hood!

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from WesMcCormick wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Are you serious? Why not just play laser tag with squirrels?, better yet paint ball with turkeys, or we can just put a few whitetail in a cage and people can take turns yelling bang, whoever yells it the loudest wins!
The sad part is this jack-ass will make a million dollars off this.
Come to bass pro this Saturday and meet one of Oklahoma's finest idiots and his family as there here to explain the rules of....picture taking....with a rifle....and "blanks".
Wouldn't this count as some sort of harrasment towards wildlife therefore making it illegal in some states?

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from Del in KS wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

I grew up in Lake County Fla which is loaded with good bass lakes. A day after (a few years ago) they had a tournament on Lake Yale there was about 50 dead Largemouth Bass around the docks where they were released after the weigh in. This lake has fairly clear water so you could see them on the bottom. Most lakes are not so clear so you don't see all the fish they kill. They claim the high ground because they release all the fish but this is the dirty little secret. That is why I have no use for fishing tournaments.

This hunting contest thing would be nothing but more infomercials like most of the hunting shows already on Outdoor Channel.

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from Bryan01 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

No, absolutely not, NFW

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from horseman308 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I have no intention of watching anything of the sort. I have a hard enough time watching the hunting shows that are on now. They feel like infomercials for whatever sponsors are producing the show.

I suppose part of my disgust at this idea comes from the fact that I'm not a very competitive person. I very rarely give a crap about whether I win or lose at something, unless I haven't performed to the best of my ability. The only person I care about beating is myself. So, why would I care if someone kills a bigger deer than me? I don't. Therefore, why would I care about watching other people try to one-up each other. I wouldn't.

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from jjas wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

If I want to watch tournament hunting, there's plenty of it on the TV now. You have "professional" hunters killing big bucks on manicured properties with free gear provided by manufacturers. Isn't that bad enough?

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from countitandone wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Do I want it? Not in my woods. Will I watch it? I rather be tied to a chair and forced to watch American Idol...

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from WVOtter wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

There is no good reason behind a deer hunting competition (aside from bragging rights with your buddies or sense of accomplishment against ones self). Hunting should never be put in the context of a reality TV competition, it is a sacred activity that deserves more respect. Hunting programing exists, and often done tastefully. But as soon as you put it in the same league as "Survivor" or "The Apprentice", or have competitors like that X-game, goateed goofball on Bassmaster as the face of the sport, hunting will lose credibility and support from those outside the sport.

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from uplander12 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I may stop for a second if I'm flipping through channels but I'm not going to set my DVR or anything like that.

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from ricefarm wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Just more proof we have WAY too many TV channels.
Now, for the real question: If you were forced to chose between watching golf, bowling or competitive deer hunting, which would you choose? Should we throw soccer into the mix?

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from buckhunter wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

This fits right in with the rest of the crap they have on tv. So without a doubt I will watch it until my mind is numb and I slowly become an alcoholic.

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from Walt Smith wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Deer hunting ain't NASCAR asshole!

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from vtbluegrass wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

First, I just lost a lot of respect for KVD. That is a pathetic thing to have your face associated with.

Second, how in the heck is this supposed to benefit hunters? I only see this adding confusion about hunting. Soon groups will wondering why don;t we all just take pictures instead of killing. I know the kill isn't supposed to be the whole hunt but its a pretty dang important to what the essence of hunting is. If you don't intend at some point to take the life of the animal it is only photography.
And great its another group that wants nothing but big antlers. I mean the photo competition can't even claim to have good backstraps too. They are only in it for the antler picture. QDMA and the search for more antler has probably taken as much land as development from the average deer hunter who can't afford expensive leases. When deer hunting became marketed as just antler quest people became land hogs and everyone needed a personal thousand acre ranch that no one else can hunt for fear of shooting a deer not on the management plan. Hell the past two years I have all but given up deer hunting because even the local farmers want hundreds of dollars to gain access and the only affordable leases are crap land with too many people on the lease. Once the first rich man paid him to hunt the farmers don't really care if you offer labor in exchange. Hold on, I am ranting. That is all.

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from Mike Diehl wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Not a chance I would spend ten seconds watching such a joke. I wouldn't watch any kind of hunting TV, high fence or otherwise. I've no interest in what the landed gentry get to do.

Hunting is a participant thing for me. I'd rather do it than watch it. Then, too, I'd rather paint my house than watch a hunting show.

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from Koldkut wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Seems the F&S bloggers already know the fate of this show.

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from MPN wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

Don't hunters already look bad in most of the public's eyes? This just sounds like another way for the respectable hunters to get a bad rep. Like there aren't enough ways already.....

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from seadog wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I'll pass. If I didn't know better, I'd think this story was a joke.

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from gman3186 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I don’t know if you could call that hunting. In hunting there is no catch and release, you have a different mind set when you go in to take a picture of a deer rather than put a bullet in him. In my opinion competitive deer hunting has been around for many years deer camp big buck contest now that’s competitive hunting when one person kills a buck you hunt that much harder to kill one bigger. As far taking a rifle in the woods that only takes pictures that’s not for me I will get all the pictures I need after he is on the ground really this idea is just competitive photography.

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from Sidewinder wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

To Greg Koch, Don Rucks, and Kevin VanDam: you are all major-league, grade A douchebags. It will not be watched in my home, and sponsors will not be patronized. Are you listening, Bass Pro Shops?

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from MPEK wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Like it or not guys , This is the way its going to go .Our sport of hunting has grown in leaps and bounds from the moneys generated by comercialization and business .And as Vtbluegrass stated , It is only photogaphy , which is all together another activity.. Exploiting the word "hunting" will take us a step backwords in the long run .. This will only fuel the anti's with the exposure

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from tmbryant wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I'm a fan of Mike Biggs' wildlife photography. You have to be at the right place and right time to get the photos that he gets. It takes as much hunting skill for him to get the photos that he gets as it does to bow hunt. He also has to have access to where those big bucks are which is probably high fence. If I was going to hunt a high fence area where you have to add up your check book before you can decide to shoot a deer, I'd probably have to take it with a camera. As there is no deer alive worth paying the kind of money that it takes to hunt high fence operations to me.

I am not a fan of the hunting shows where the guys are whispering to beat the band while they watch a buck come into bow range. It's amazing to me that they ever get a shot with a bow from all the noise that they are making. Then when they get one, the goo goo gaa gaa attitude they have turns me off. I also would prefer that these kinds of shows don't show deer being hit by the the bullet or arrow. I think that is in poor taste and is just ammunition for the anti hunters.

As far as the question, no, I'm not going to watch competitive deer hunting whether they shoot the deer with a rifle or shoot the deer with a camera. I don't think that I've ever learned anything about hunting deer from watching televised hunting programs. For the most part, they are a waste of time as is most television.

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from Sinkingrocket wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Wouldn't a round of Cabela's Big Game Hunter on the pc serve the same purpose?

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from horseman308 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I have no intention of watching anything of the sort. I have a hard enough time watching the hunting shows that are on now. They feel like infomercials for whatever sponsors are producing the show.

I suppose part of my disgust at this idea comes from the fact that I'm not a very competitive person. I very rarely give a crap about whether I win or lose at something, unless I haven't performed to the best of my ability. The only person I care about beating is myself. So, why would I care if someone kills a bigger deer than me? I don't. Therefore, why would I care about watching other people try to one-up each other? I wouldn't.

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from Beekeeper wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

NO! What a lame attempt at marketing... Professional deer hunting indeed...

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from Jim in Mo wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

Pronger if that really is you, I wish the cheap ass Lowry, (is that correct name, married to wal-mart gal), would have kept you in STL. Good luck and leave end of game pucks on ice. Ha, LOL jim

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from Del in KS wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I have no use for BASS. I know for a fact that many of those fish die after they release them.

Sure as heck would not watch some dudes chase deer (in a pen or otherwise). These guys are trying to turn deer hunting into yet another way (for them) to make a buck (no pun intended).

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from Koldkut wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

And one other thing, why is the whitetail the standard? I'd rather hunt Mulies.

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from MPN wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

Prongs,
Yes that was me who cited bambi.

Keep kane hurting out there. I got money on philly winning!

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from shane wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Hunting isn't a competition. It's a conservation practice, a means for feeding yourself, and a spiritual thing for many. Not a game. Not a fan of this.

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from Jeff4066 wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

I've "hunted" deer with a camera before. It is just photography.

I only hunt to eat what I shoot also.

No, I don't watch television hunting, no matter how they package it. Like other "reality" shows, it will, however, cater to, attract, and amuse some percentage of the unenlightened.

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from senkoman12 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

even proposing that disgusts me thats what gives us a bad name at least the bassmasters are catch an release

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from idduckhntr wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

One of the dumbest things I have heard of. WTF are these people thinkig?

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from muskiemaster wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

come on ricefarm, at least leave soccer and golf out of the mix seeing as they actually are legitimate sports. (my sympathy comes from being in both sports)

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from Jere Smith wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

NFW,

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from gman3186 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

are they going to try and get people who actually deer hunt to do this.cuz good luck with that

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from Big C wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Is this really anything more than amateur picture taking? So someone is going to produce a show about someone taking pictures….you can’t really call this hunting.

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from yohan wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

Obso-f^^king- utly not,..
Tournament bass (killing ) fishing scrapes the bottoom of the barrel enough ,..but warm blooded animals ??
would need both legs and one arm broken before watching that !!!

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from walmsley wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Why in the hell will they have to "Fire a Blank"! It's a photo contest! period-That's it- Good luck to them- No REAL deer hunter would get involved in this unless they are a want-to-be Deer TV Whore-and there's plenty of them on the Outdoor Channel!!!!

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from Hoski wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I won't watch. Don't watch BASS. Don't read magazines' articles concerning BASS Masters either.
I regularly skip over inch and spread measurements included with trophy pics in all publications. Just not impressed. Outdoor sports are a pleasure thing for me, not a competition.

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from Pronger wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

MPN,
I believe it was you who mentioned bambi in backlash and blowback as one of those ways haha

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from Pronger wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

Jim,
Go where the money is. Those pucks will sell pretty high on ebay. Tune in 8:00 tonight.

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from woodsmanj35 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Great, A family who wants to get rich desides to try to make a super lame show that gives hunting a bad face. A photograph contest? on TV? And it's supposed to be a hunting show? give me a big fat break!

Hunting is supposed to be about a contest, not between two people but between an animal and human, a battle of skill. Hunting is supposed to be about the experience of being in the outdoors, hunting is about becoming apart of nature. today our society is trying to beat nature, today hunting is all about the money, and who can get the biggest buck, its about killing not hunting.

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from MLH wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

It might happen but, likely, only once.

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from prairieghost wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

no, no no ! ! !

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from Bella wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

No, I wouldn't watch this either. I like to Do stuff, not watch stuff. I prefer active behaviors to passive. I know advertisers are always trying to come up with new ways to market the latest stuff, but I also like to Make my own stuff, so marketing ploys based on bloodsport aren't attractive to me, even if I might be into a little bloodsport from time to time. Do, don't watch. Make it your self, and the effort you expend is an advertisement of your quality, rather than touting the efforts of those who make nothing themselves, but get others to do it cheaply so they can make a buck selling their undervalued labor.

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from 60256 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Koldkut,
Most people on the show would not be talented enough to hunt mule deer. My guess would be that the show would have everybody sitting in a stand all day.

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from Don Mitchell wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

horseman308
you just made my day.+1 for you. this has to be the best joke Ive heard in a month. Or worst?

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from Whackdaddy wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I hate this.

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from Whackdaddy wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I hate this.

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from ejunk wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

no way. immature as all get out.

yrs-
Evan!

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from Koldkut wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

Countitandone, I'm in Colorado, we have a whitetail and mulies here, you do come across the occasional springer(cross) as well. I've shot 4 doe's and got my first lulie buck this past year, it's the only pic I've uploaded here so far. I always pass on those whitetails. Most folks just don't understand that when you see a nice mulie buck, the first thing that goes through your head is "ELK" before you realize what you are really seeing.

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from Zermoid wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

Awww Hell No!

Hunting is a participant sport, not a spectator sport, I don't even like hunting shows. Why would I watch some schmuck sneaking around to take pictures of deer???

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from Amflyer wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Wonder if anyone associated with this idea is monitoring these comments. What a bad idea. Shame on them.

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from tom warner wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

A totally poor idea. I also violently disapprove of all fishing competitions, which just demeans the whole sport. When competition and $$ is introduced into hunting and fishing, it just ruins everything. What is the matter with these people? I surely hope that they will fail, big time!

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from 007 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Nope!! Jackie Bushman has taken that about as far as can be done thoughtfully and tastefully. Leave the competition on the ball fields and courts.

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from Derek St.Romain wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

Im with bluegrass. Why the hell would you have a contest on who can take a pic of the biggest deer and call it a hunting anything? then all the anti's will seperate us even more by the "Killer" hunters and the good lil green pic hunters....somebody has to stop this, Hey Ron Spommer, get some of your buddies together and go protest for the good of all hunting. He talked of the exact thing in season 2 of Whitetail revolution...and larry weishun said he was all for hunting contests.
I am all for Rodeo type local events to get sportsmen/women together and have a friendly bragging rights get together, but not in a TV forum with cash and prizes and sponsorship..... no good came come of this. IMO.

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from countitandone wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Hey Koldkut, I invite you to Nevada, mulies are the only deer here. If you want to see a whitetail here, you gotta buy an issue of F&S...I look at mags just so I can remember what they look like.

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from countitandone wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

Koldkut, no I haven't run across a springer or heard from anyone here who has. I do know that the hybrid, the offspring of two different yet similar deer, are sterile. This happens often in Europe and Africa with those continents' large, diverse deer populations during the rut.

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from Hank111 wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

I may be wrong, but I dont believe mule deer/ whitetail hybrids are sterile. Some have been tested and found to be 2nd and 3rd generation, like the grizzly/polar bear hybrid shot. The whitetail bucks are more dominate than the mulies despite the size differance. Its hard to believe the mule deer would still be pure if this is true though.

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from Jere Smith wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I like Bass on a plate!! Yummy.

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from huntenthusiest wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

What kind of "Pro" do you have to be to get a photo of a deer?

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from bthomasb1 wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

This idea really sucks,as for me I dont even wath the so fake hunting shows on tv now,I cant see the tv from my treestand to many leaves in the way

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from blcassady wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

This is just about the most stupidest, idiotic, lame-brain idea to come out yet - IMOP. I can't stand most of the 'hunting' videos that are shown on the outdoor shows as it is now - how in the hell do they EVER think that a hunting competition is something we could ever stomach long enough for a "sponsor's 100% Snakeoil Treatment" to be properly hawked to a captivated audience?? LOL - If the Big Names are really behind this idea, they better scramble fast to protect their reputations... That's what I think about anyway!

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from JOHN ANDERSON wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

buckhunter,Clasic!!!LOL!!

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from WesMcCormick wrote 1 year 47 weeks ago

Are you serious? Why not just play laser tag with squirrels?, better yet paint ball with turkeys, or we can just put a few whitetail in a cage and people can take turns yelling bang, whoever yells it the loudest wins!
The sad part is this jack-ass will make a million dollars off this.
Come to bass pro this Saturday and meet one of Oklahoma's finest idiots and his family as there here to explain the rules of....picture taking....with a rifle....and "blanks".
Wouldn't this count as some sort of harrasment towards wildlife therefore making it illegal in some states?

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from AJMcClure wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

My club is a deer hunting tournament, the biggest buck wins the pot which almost pays the members dues, the one year I didn't chip in the pot I harvested the biggest buck, but keep in mind this is not a high fence operation, and taking a legal doe for the Saturday feast is as important as winning the pot. You can't eat antlers.

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from fliphuntr14 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

its just not a real draw there is a hunt for the biggest buck but its not like that of the hunt for big fish. It seems for more personal gratification then public. i may watch it but im not a die hard fan.

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from bberg7794 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

No-Absolutely not!

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from simmshunter wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Not a chance count me out. Deer hunting or hunting in general is not a game to be played.

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from Bellringer wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

Call me a dinosaur if you will, but I would never have anything good to say about the proposed deer photograph scheme. I even thing that BASS is the biggest crock of hog drippings that I ever heard of.

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from jsnsalzman wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

I think televised hunting competitions is a horrible idea. It takes away the purity of the sport. Also that much pressure could cause accidents in the field that could have been avoided.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 1 year 50 weeks ago

This as distasteful as running thru town on Sunday morning with a deer strapped across your hood!

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from Bones812 wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

The whole deal smells cheezy. I for one wont be watching that crap.Just reading how it's supposed to play out sounds boring. really who the heck is going to sit there and waite for a person in a blind or tree stand to take a picture. Boring!!!!!!!!!

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from Pa deer hunter wrote 1 year 51 weeks ago

It would not be real hunting it's just another gimmic for someone to make money. no real hunters would have anything to do with it.

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