Nice point about the lack of movement when you shoulder it. People complain about heavy rifles but they have their advantages.

Are these the same ones on cabelas.com? i like this rifle and want to know if these are the same rifles any help anyone?

if it's anything like my vanguards, you won't be sorry owning it.

Nice review. Another $600 that gets the job done. Now make it left-handed.

I was looking at two Weatherbys yesterday mainly because they were in one of my favorite rounds the .300 Wea. One Mark V was German with a 2-7x40 Weatherby scope for $1500 and the other a Japanese version with a 3-9x40 Weatherby scope for $1200. Both rifles were absolutely flawless in appearance as in maybe had never been afield and surely never in a rifle scabbard on a horse. Deep bluing and nice finishes and checkereing on the stocks. I finally decided that I have enough rifles and walked away although they sure would make a nice pair to have in the gun safe. WAM who made the Weatherby scopes? One was conventional in appearance while the other had both knobs on top like I used to see years ago on a few scopes.

Well it's still a heavy .308, and by today's standards, those groups are starting to look pretty average, except the first one. Nice to see it shoots the lighter, cheaper stuff very well. Kinda strange that those seemingly ever accurate Petzal handloads can't touch the mass produced ammo. Is it a 12 twist? It would make a great beanfield rifle if it wasn't a .308, and a great walking varminter if it was in .223. I would love a rifle like this for deer hunting upstate NY or VT if I stand hunted there, but it would have to be a bit lighter since I don't. I still don't know what one would do with this rifle. Any of the washed few wanna enlighten me with what I'm missing?

Besides, a crappy product would have an impact on sales for there line of quality products!

Dave, the point you make about how this rifle as you said,"it is a rifle that is easy to shoot accurately" applies to other guns as well. I think it makes up the "X-Factor" in possibly making a good gun shoot BETTER for an individual shooter. When I replaced my 110Savage factory stock with a laminate replacement; it took a few trips to the range for me to get the feel of that gun again.

Well, 'fortycal', if that old .300 Weatherby is whuppin' you too bad, I can take it off your hands. Might I suggest a Mark V in 7mm Wby or .270 Weatherby.\? Mine has tolerable recoil and is handy enough to carry with the 24 inch barrel.

For those that don't like the looks of the Weatherby stock, there is more to it than looks. The geometry of the stock instantly snaps it to my sight plane and the drop and cast rotates the rifle away from your cheek bone and eye socket under heavy recoil. Shoot my 6 1/2 pound .30-06 Mark V and you will learn to love that stock design. A lot of it has to do with your body build and eye appeal. I'm 6'4" and 238 pounds and those Mark V's fit me well. To each his/her own...

Jason H

I hear you. Visual appeal is to be considered. Besides, life's too short to hunt with an ugly rifle. The barrel nut on the Savage never put me off, but I'm not crazy about the location of the bolt handle at the extreme rear of the bolt with no bolt shroud. That certainly has nothing to do with functionality. You can get straight comb stocks for Weatherby actions. I have one for my magnum action in the closet collecting dust at the moment.

jamesti

He He, it's not supposed to be a pussycat, is it?

Want magnum performance? Then you boys better man up beotches!

The tightest group you shot with that rifle was with Federal ammo which does not surprise me in the least. I can remember when Federal ammo was sneered at as being "cheap" ammunition. At that time, the only other factory ammo was Remington and Winchester. I have shot some of the smallest groups using Federal ammunition from several different rifles; smaller than with some handloads.
And, it was not always Federal premium that delivered the ragged hole groups; many were shot with power shok. I don't handload much anymore. It's hard to beat the results with today's quality factory fodder.

wingshooter54: Thanks for the info as it is always rewarding to learn new data especially if it is not commonly known. Frankly I have never heard of Hertel & Reuss. I suppose the only products they made that I have seen are the older Weatherby scopes. I remember when they were new but even then was not aware of the manufacturer.

I am a big fan of short, handy, &,light at short distance(<200yds) if there is a tree or fencepost to stop the wiggl'in tip and am a firm believer of a good rest. A long bbl 24"> at sit'in ,kneel'in, or prone has been a worker for me 'cause with scope & ammo most of my hunt'in rigs I know are between 10 & 12 lbs. I don't know what it is about the comb on Weatherby rifles, love'em or hate'em but when I picked my Uncles when I was a teen, I thought Roy designed it for me. When I talked my wife into buying one as her first rifle, I was just thinking "if she hates it, its mine !" she didn't and it was years before I acquired one and yes, I was giddy. I buy varible scopes, I keep'em on X2.5 to X3 for under 200yd and X6 for everything else. Thanks Finn

I traded for a WV some 15 yrs. ago and love it. I had an old Mouser 7.65 Argintine customized/sporterized by myself, thumbhole stock and all. Barrel cut and crowned ect. I chose the Vanguard for the very simular bulistics and weight. These have been the finest shooting guns I've ever owned. I got rid of the 7.65 because the bullets were hard to find $40.00 a box of 20 15yrs. ago. and eventualy the dies for hand loading disappeared. So really had no choice but to trade of puy it in storage. I am now shooting the 7mm.08 in Hornaday 139 gr. GMX Super performance via the Vanguard. It is one accurate and hard hitting Rifle. Shoots flat as well and is a pleasure to shoot and own. Dam good gun!!!!