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September 08, 2010

Bestul: Whitetails with Warts

By Scott Bestul

It’s been a relatively slow summer for trail cam pictures for me this year. So instead of going into rapid-fire delete mode while looking at my last batch, I was spending more than the usual amount of time looking over does and fawns. There are several apple trees growing on one farm I hunt, and whitetails were cleaning up the fruit as soon as it hit the ground. I love trail cam setups by apple trees, as they always result in humorous shots of deer trying to get their maws around fruit way too big for the whitetail mouth.

I was about to delete a photo of this doe when I noticed a strange lump on her neck. It’s been a banner year for ticks, so I figured it was just another bloated parasite…Until I looked closer. The next several shots revealed this was no tick problem. I’ve showed photos of this doe to several friends and asked their opinion about what her odd lumps are. She’s got them everywhere; from smaller ones on her face to a big, ugly one growing right by her tail.

I’ve had guesses ranging from infected tick bites, to cysts, to fibroid tumors. Do any of you know what’s up with this deer? I’ve never seen this before and am looking for clues!

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from FirstBubba wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

My dad kept a pint jar of mineral oil and a paint brush in the barn. Every now and then, a horse would show up with a wart looking "thingie", especially around the nose. That horse was noted and an application of mineral oil twice a day to the affected area. Within a week or so, no more warts!
Don't ask me! I just brushed the mineral oil!
They look like some of the stuff I've seen on horses!

Bubba

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from chadlove wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

They're called cutaneous fibromas and are basically a harmless skin virus caused by certain biting insects, at least according to my Google-Fu skills.

The reason I know is because I had the same question earlier this year when the deer around my house started showing up with them. Must be a bad year for them because I don't recall seeing them in such numbers prior to this summer

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from ckRich wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

I first saw this last season. I had three does that looked just like the one pictured walk right under my stand while hunting in northwest Oklahoma. A couple of those could really ruin a nice mount candidate, but I bet they still taste the same!

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from lovetohunt wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

Its called Cutaneous Fibromas or "deer warts". I believe that the meat is still safe to eat.

Do a Google search on it. There is some pretty nasty pictures of this deer with it.

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from countitandone wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

I would not eat venison even slightly suspect of virus, communicable or not to humans.

For the same reason, I will not eat fish from CA lakes that have the lice. The State will tell you not to but persons of "average intelligence" can figure it out for themselves. Same with deer, no thanks.

If it's in and on the skin, it's in the blood stream. That being said, tissue infection (the meat we love so much) is reason enough.

I know the difference between cutaneous and sub-cutaneous. I will not put a meal like that on the table for my family to eat. Period.

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from Dcast wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

I'm with countitandone! No way in hell would I put that nasty a$$ deer meat on my table. I respect my stomach to much, and I couldn't help but to think of Austin Powers Moley Moley Moley!

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from Walt Smith wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

I bet thats the last doe the boys breed each year!

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from buckhunter wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

I noticed a large lump on a 10 point on my property. It is good to know it is harmless.

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from jsnelson wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

I killed a deer in VA a few years back covered in those things. Noone I was with knew what they were or if the deer was safe to eat. Went with the better safe than sorry route and had a woodland burial

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from Coachcl wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

No way Id eat that. Not worth the risk, as far as killing it for a management though, not sure I would want this doe around the rest of the deer on my property.

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from Jerry A. wrote 1 year 36 weeks ago

I think I would pass up a shot on a deer if I were able to see the lumps beforehand. I doubt I could bring myself to eat eny of the meat, even if it is supposed to be safe.

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from jfgann66 wrote 1 year 36 weeks ago

Lets not forget that we are the suragate predator for the whitetail and natural selection should be maintained by taking the weak and old out of the herd. If you don't eat it then you should turn it in for donation. as far as blood and transmition of disease try to think about that next time you eat a steak medium rare at a restrant. You should bleed and age your meat before butchering it anyway and then cook it!

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from Del Gue wrote 1 year 36 weeks ago

I killed a buck with warts two seasons ago. The venison was unaffected.

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from Whackdaddy wrote 1 year 36 weeks ago

Funny you should post this – I just spotted a doe on our place that has the same issue. I've seen this written up in one of the whitetail pubs as common cysts. Sometimes they go away on their own and sometimes they get better. But the doe I have on camera this year looks nearly identical to the one you have pictured here. I think I'd pass on shooting her!

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from Walt Smith wrote 1 year 36 weeks ago

Maybe its a new defense mechanism, they know we kill them for food so mother nature gives them these nasty things so we look at them and gag! Survival of the Lepars!!

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from scott powers wrote 1 year 36 weeks ago

you should just shoot the deer than you can tell what it is. but i would not eat the meat from it it might not be that good. but if you shoot it tell us what the hell it is on that deer.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 1 year 36 weeks ago

Scott, take a look at this link just may answer your question.

http://www.mdwfp.com/Level2/Wildlife/Game/Deer/Articles.asp?article=313

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from Clay Cooper wrote 1 year 36 weeks ago

Scott, got me thinking. What diseases have hunters and Fisherman have come in contact with like Brucellosis and others like Giardia which I'm sure those who went on the ATV trip up in Manitoba came into contact with. Beaver ponds up north is infected heavily. Something to think about before going into these areas. If your going to use water purification tablets like iodine tabs, use the product before your departure. Knew of a Hunter who didn't know he was allergic to iodine and had to be airlifted out on a Moose hunt.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brucellosis

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giardia

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from Clay Cooper wrote 1 year 36 weeks ago

If you suspect of any infectious disease, do not come into contact with it and avoid any and all possibilities of contamination on the ground. If you shoot it, avoid any and all contact with it, do not go near it and call Game and Fish and let the Pro's handle it. Nasty stuff and if you come in contact, you just may have it for life!

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from Hank111 wrote 1 year 36 weeks ago

Clay, what in the world could a deer have that would make you that paranoid? A lyme diseased tick is about all I can think of that could be that bad.Blue-tongue/EHD,CWD or parasites are not going to hurt you, but maybe TB if you are in an area with that? Just wondering.

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from Hank111 wrote 1 year 36 weeks ago

I have been getting pictures of a year old buck covered in the same cysts/tumors. He seems totally healthy otherwise.With our horses we get a similar growth called zarcoids that we burn,cut or freeze off. They also commonly get warts on their faces from the dew on the grass, mostly white faced horses, but they go away eventually.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 1 year 36 weeks ago

OK hank

Deer do get Baylisascaris Infections among other nastys.

The larvae burrow into your brain. Then you die!

Go Figure!

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from Clay Cooper wrote 1 year 36 weeks ago

O'by the way Hank, clean those frogs really good now!

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from Hank111 wrote 1 year 36 weeks ago

Which is it a parasite larvae or an infection, or just talking out your ass.I was just asking, dont need to get all crotchety.

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from Hank111 wrote 1 year 36 weeks ago

Clay, I kinda like the smell after cleaning out the frog with a hoof knife, how bout you.

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from Panfry101 wrote 1 year 36 weeks ago

I wonder if the warts impart a flavor on the meat???

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from Clay Cooper wrote 1 year 36 weeks ago

Hank111, just checking if you really had horses, you passed! As for the cleaning of hoofs, they sure do smell if they have an infection especially if the ground is always wet. Had a fella tell me he owned 19 and I said, that's a hell of a lot of frogs to clean. Fella didn't know what a frog was and found out he lived down the road in apartments. The funniest one is when a lady at the Stables walked up to Blazer (Quarter Horse) and patted him on the butt and said, nice withers! Been out of the horse business since 95, but I do have a reminder of the scar where He kicked me just below the right knee. Doctors couldn't believe my leg didn't break!

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from Hank111 wrote 1 year 36 weeks ago

Yeah Clay you are right, an infection smells rank, but a healthy hoof has a different smell, not too bad and the dogs sure like the trimmings.Since the horse market has gone to hell, I have been breeding my paint and quarter horse mares to a big black mammoth jack I bought, raiseing some real nice big boned tall saddle mules.

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from lovetohunt wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

Its called Cutaneous Fibromas or "deer warts". I believe that the meat is still safe to eat.

Do a Google search on it. There is some pretty nasty pictures of this deer with it.

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from chadlove wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

They're called cutaneous fibromas and are basically a harmless skin virus caused by certain biting insects, at least according to my Google-Fu skills.

The reason I know is because I had the same question earlier this year when the deer around my house started showing up with them. Must be a bad year for them because I don't recall seeing them in such numbers prior to this summer

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from Del Gue wrote 1 year 36 weeks ago

I killed a buck with warts two seasons ago. The venison was unaffected.

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from scott powers wrote 1 year 36 weeks ago

you should just shoot the deer than you can tell what it is. but i would not eat the meat from it it might not be that good. but if you shoot it tell us what the hell it is on that deer.

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from Hank111 wrote 1 year 36 weeks ago

Clay, I kinda like the smell after cleaning out the frog with a hoof knife, how bout you.

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from FirstBubba wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

My dad kept a pint jar of mineral oil and a paint brush in the barn. Every now and then, a horse would show up with a wart looking "thingie", especially around the nose. That horse was noted and an application of mineral oil twice a day to the affected area. Within a week or so, no more warts!
Don't ask me! I just brushed the mineral oil!
They look like some of the stuff I've seen on horses!

Bubba

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from ckRich wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

I first saw this last season. I had three does that looked just like the one pictured walk right under my stand while hunting in northwest Oklahoma. A couple of those could really ruin a nice mount candidate, but I bet they still taste the same!

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from countitandone wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

I would not eat venison even slightly suspect of virus, communicable or not to humans.

For the same reason, I will not eat fish from CA lakes that have the lice. The State will tell you not to but persons of "average intelligence" can figure it out for themselves. Same with deer, no thanks.

If it's in and on the skin, it's in the blood stream. That being said, tissue infection (the meat we love so much) is reason enough.

I know the difference between cutaneous and sub-cutaneous. I will not put a meal like that on the table for my family to eat. Period.

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from Dcast wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

I'm with countitandone! No way in hell would I put that nasty a$$ deer meat on my table. I respect my stomach to much, and I couldn't help but to think of Austin Powers Moley Moley Moley!

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from Walt Smith wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

I bet thats the last doe the boys breed each year!

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from buckhunter wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

I noticed a large lump on a 10 point on my property. It is good to know it is harmless.

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from jsnelson wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

I killed a deer in VA a few years back covered in those things. Noone I was with knew what they were or if the deer was safe to eat. Went with the better safe than sorry route and had a woodland burial

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from Coachcl wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

No way Id eat that. Not worth the risk, as far as killing it for a management though, not sure I would want this doe around the rest of the deer on my property.

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from Jerry A. wrote 1 year 36 weeks ago

I think I would pass up a shot on a deer if I were able to see the lumps beforehand. I doubt I could bring myself to eat eny of the meat, even if it is supposed to be safe.

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from jfgann66 wrote 1 year 36 weeks ago

Lets not forget that we are the suragate predator for the whitetail and natural selection should be maintained by taking the weak and old out of the herd. If you don't eat it then you should turn it in for donation. as far as blood and transmition of disease try to think about that next time you eat a steak medium rare at a restrant. You should bleed and age your meat before butchering it anyway and then cook it!

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from Whackdaddy wrote 1 year 36 weeks ago

Funny you should post this – I just spotted a doe on our place that has the same issue. I've seen this written up in one of the whitetail pubs as common cysts. Sometimes they go away on their own and sometimes they get better. But the doe I have on camera this year looks nearly identical to the one you have pictured here. I think I'd pass on shooting her!

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from Walt Smith wrote 1 year 36 weeks ago

Maybe its a new defense mechanism, they know we kill them for food so mother nature gives them these nasty things so we look at them and gag! Survival of the Lepars!!

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from Clay Cooper wrote 1 year 36 weeks ago

Scott, take a look at this link just may answer your question.

http://www.mdwfp.com/Level2/Wildlife/Game/Deer/Articles.asp?article=313

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from Clay Cooper wrote 1 year 36 weeks ago

Scott, got me thinking. What diseases have hunters and Fisherman have come in contact with like Brucellosis and others like Giardia which I'm sure those who went on the ATV trip up in Manitoba came into contact with. Beaver ponds up north is infected heavily. Something to think about before going into these areas. If your going to use water purification tablets like iodine tabs, use the product before your departure. Knew of a Hunter who didn't know he was allergic to iodine and had to be airlifted out on a Moose hunt.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brucellosis

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giardia

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from Clay Cooper wrote 1 year 36 weeks ago

If you suspect of any infectious disease, do not come into contact with it and avoid any and all possibilities of contamination on the ground. If you shoot it, avoid any and all contact with it, do not go near it and call Game and Fish and let the Pro's handle it. Nasty stuff and if you come in contact, you just may have it for life!

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from Hank111 wrote 1 year 36 weeks ago

Clay, what in the world could a deer have that would make you that paranoid? A lyme diseased tick is about all I can think of that could be that bad.Blue-tongue/EHD,CWD or parasites are not going to hurt you, but maybe TB if you are in an area with that? Just wondering.

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from Hank111 wrote 1 year 36 weeks ago

I have been getting pictures of a year old buck covered in the same cysts/tumors. He seems totally healthy otherwise.With our horses we get a similar growth called zarcoids that we burn,cut or freeze off. They also commonly get warts on their faces from the dew on the grass, mostly white faced horses, but they go away eventually.

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from Clay Cooper wrote 1 year 36 weeks ago

OK hank

Deer do get Baylisascaris Infections among other nastys.

The larvae burrow into your brain. Then you die!

Go Figure!

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from Clay Cooper wrote 1 year 36 weeks ago

O'by the way Hank, clean those frogs really good now!

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from Hank111 wrote 1 year 36 weeks ago

Which is it a parasite larvae or an infection, or just talking out your ass.I was just asking, dont need to get all crotchety.

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from Panfry101 wrote 1 year 36 weeks ago

I wonder if the warts impart a flavor on the meat???

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from Clay Cooper wrote 1 year 36 weeks ago

Hank111, just checking if you really had horses, you passed! As for the cleaning of hoofs, they sure do smell if they have an infection especially if the ground is always wet. Had a fella tell me he owned 19 and I said, that's a hell of a lot of frogs to clean. Fella didn't know what a frog was and found out he lived down the road in apartments. The funniest one is when a lady at the Stables walked up to Blazer (Quarter Horse) and patted him on the butt and said, nice withers! Been out of the horse business since 95, but I do have a reminder of the scar where He kicked me just below the right knee. Doctors couldn't believe my leg didn't break!

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from Hank111 wrote 1 year 36 weeks ago

Yeah Clay you are right, an infection smells rank, but a healthy hoof has a different smell, not too bad and the dogs sure like the trimmings.Since the horse market has gone to hell, I have been breeding my paint and quarter horse mares to a big black mammoth jack I bought, raiseing some real nice big boned tall saddle mules.

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