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September 01, 2010

Hurteau: On Climbing Sticks—And Climbing Safety

By Dave Hurteau

First, check out how the hunter in this video uses climbing sticks to very quickly climb 20 feet or so to hang a stand.

It’s a great system—and not just because it’s very similar to the one I use. But the question is: Is it safe? And I’m not passing judgment here; I just want to know what you think and what you do. The hunter in the video uses a climbing belt all the way up, but a climbing belt does not prevent you from falling. Technically, the safest way to climb a tree for the first time is to attach your harness to a tether above your head, and then continually reposition the tether up ahead of you as you go. But let’s be honest. We all know what a pain in the butt that is—especially if the tree has low branches, requiring you to repeatedly unfasten and refasten the tether.

So tell me: What do you do? When you’re climbing a tree for the first time to hang a fixed-position stand, do you use a climbing belt; do you attach your harness to a tether above your head; or do you go freestyle? And tell the truth.

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from buckhunter wrote 1 year 38 weeks ago

I free style and I'm not ashamed to admit it. I put my stands in trees of all shapes and sizes which makes using safety equipment very difficult. The young man in the video does a very good job of setting up on a clean tree but how often do you set up on a clean tree? If I was to hunt the tree used in the video it would be perfect for a climber.

I save my fixed stands for odd-ball trees with funny bends or lots of branches. I try to maintain 3 points of contact with the tree at all times. In other words before I move my hand I make sure both feet and the other hand are firmly planted.

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from Dcast wrote 1 year 38 weeks ago

I go freestyle. Harnesses and the such get in the way and get hung up on branches causing more problems. I know it is not an ideal situation, but I feel safer and always go hunting with a friend and always let someone know where I'm at and when I plan to come home just in case.

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from tpbesone wrote 1 year 38 weeks ago

I also don't attach myself to the tree when hanging stands. I've found that having a tether above my head gets in the way more than it helps. I do tether to the tree once I'm in the stand, but I believe in maintaining 3 points of contact at all times and taking things slow. The guy in the video does a very efficeint job, but I would be checking each climbing stick before I just climbed to the top of it.

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from jamesti wrote 1 year 38 weeks ago

i've done it both ways but will opt for a tether if i can without it being more of a pain than it needs to be. not sure why he took that belt off when he was climbing down. that's when a lot of people fall.

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from senkoman12 wrote 1 year 38 weeks ago

i saw that video and am now thinking of getting those sticks but i need to get a linemans belt like he was using. my dad has some ameristep ones but never used a belt but i feel safer using one

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from dneaster3 wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

Where I hunt a climber is all I need, and I always am tethered with safety harness. As with most skills, with practice I have become proficient and it adds little to no time to my climbing.

If I were to use a fixed stand and sticks, I agree with buckhunter, they'd be for crooked, branched trees. In that case, I would not get in a hurry and I'd set the stand on a non-hunting day. That's just me.

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from leifjohn wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

I get my first 2 sticks on, as they are not too far off the ground, then once I get to my 3rd stick, I use my lineman's belt around the tree while mounting the 3rd stick, and then my stand which is usually not much higher if any than my top (3rd) stick. I can do this in about the same time it would take me to setup a climbing stand.

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from jjas wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

I'll be honest. When putting hand on stands in or taking them out I never used a safety line of any sort. I did try to maintain three points of contact but I never used a safety harness until I was in the stand and I always unhooked to climb down.

Luckily, I never fell. Now I spend the majority of my time in tripods, ladders and ground blinds.

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from MLH wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

Lineman's belt, even without the safety feature, just makes it so much easier to deal with the sticks - frees both hands.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

Climbing Sticks I have you stick them together like a pole ladder

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from BackstrapAssasn wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

I have these same sticks and a Lone Wolf Assault Hang On. This will be my first season using them but I have been practicing getting up into the tree quite a bit. I understand everyone's arguments against the use of any sort of attachment on the way up, but I personally will always use it. I wish there was a better way to ascend with the linemans rope when there are substantial branches without disconnecting the linemans and moving it above the branch. I find that I put myself in more danger detaching the Linemans setup when I encounter a branch than if I weren't using it at all. The dexterity and focus involved in swapping the Lineman's above a branch often causes me to choose a different tree which kind of defeats the purpose of sticks and a hang-on over a climber which is unfortunate.

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from Walt Smith wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

I'm with Clay-- I prefer the security of a pole ladder, and you can preach the harness all day but for me I've never used one and I just feel that with your camo on and the excitement of getting a shot the last thing I need is my string or a pully to get caught up in the contraption and being the cause of a accident.

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from Modern Day Moun... wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

I've never hunted in a stand, but this mkes it look easy enough.

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from countitandone wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

Hurt ~
The tree in the video is just this side of a peeler log! And straight as a string!

I'm built same as the kid in the film, only 40 yrs his senior. I still climb gang forms on the job and although this is not an OSHA training film, looks safe enough.

I call b.s. on the "less than a half hour." It'd take 30 minutes alone to clean that tree!

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from FirstBubba wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

I think I have you all beat!
I DON'T CLIMB!!!!
Spent many hours sitting in tree stands as a younger man.
Also spent many hours pounding sixty penny spikes into oak trees for steps and lag screwing platforms to the tree. That's what we called "hang ons", back in 60's and 70's. No such thing as safety belts. I've even curled up on platform and taken a short nap. No harness! It's a wonder I'm still alive!
I would still like to use tree stands. They offer an advantage that box and pop ups just can't match. My current physical condition doesn't DISallow it, it's just that I don't need to be causing any further damage!! LOL!!

Bubba

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from Whackdaddy wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

Freestyle and reckless, and it will bite me in the arse some day.

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from jfgann66 wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

When I can do it, I use my climbing stand and work it backwards. I climb to the destination of my stand use a rope to hoist it in the air attach it to the tree. Then attach the climbing sticks on the way down. I am old fat and out of shape to stand on a stick while working and much prefer to stand on my climbing stand platform to work. Also I use the safety harness while doing this. luckily the time I did fall I lived and ever sense then safety harness is the way to go!

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from jbird wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

For hanging or building stands, I usually free climb. I've had 12 years of training in high climbing, now that doesn't make it smart, but I feel pretty confident. I have made a make-shift climbers belt to free up both my hands a few times. When I use my climber, I ALWAYS wear a harness.

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from Bellringer wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

I have never seen the need for climbing trees like a monkey. I have hunted deer for over 50 years, have averaged one deer per year, killed 1 from a tree stand (lean on ladder with platform) and 1 from an elevated box blind (5 feet from the ground) all others were taken either standing, sitting or lying on the ground.
Friends who habitually use tree stands tell me that many deer now look up at them, so is the element of suprise lost. The only advantage that I can see for tree stands is possibly being able to see down into brush or possibly see a longer distance. I like to hunt in thickets because I believe that is where the bucks are.

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from gf319804 wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

It amazes me how many people refuse to wear a harness while climbing into and hunting a treestand. I was raised that safety was the #1 concern when using a treestand, and I continue to follow that rule today. In my opinion, anyone who chooses not to use a harness is a lazy and selfish person. Do you not think about your family and returning home safe to them when you are in the woods? While I agree a harness can be uncomfortable and sometimes get in the way, I would never scale a tree without one; my life is too valuable to me. I have also seen the result of falling from a stand happen to a friend of mine, and I guarantee you he wishes he would have worn a harness on that day that changed his life forever. As the person behind the making of this video, I can guarantee you that safety is my number one concern. I check my equipment before each use and periodically tighten and loc-tite all bolts. While some of you may feel that using a lineman's harness will not prevent a fall, it will slow you down and it sure as heck beats using no safety equipment at all. In closing, I wish you all the best this year and pray that none of you take a fall that will change your life forever.

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from FirstBubba wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

Charlie finally go on a deer lease. Having never killed a deer (he was almost 50) he decided to build his own tree stand.
He selected a nice, straight sweet gum. Built a really nice platform at about 30 to 35 feet AGL*! (above ground level!)
Returns to hunt said "tree stand" while no one else was in camp. Sure enough, Charlie's first deer walks out 30 yards from the tree and Charlie blows him down with his single shot H&R .45-70.
Unfortunately, in his excitement, Charlie becomes altitudinally disoriented and in his haste to "lay hands" on his first deer, WALKS OUT OF TREE STAND!
Thankfully, there were folks in a camp not too far away that heard his cries of help! He only broke one leg!
Charlie hunts on the ground now!! LOL!

Bubba

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from steve182 wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

I always use a harness when hunting from a treestand, but I admit i am vulnerable when hanging them, freestyle. As i get older and lose my nerve, agility and flexibility, I'll probably do the right thing and tether up.

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from Del in KS wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

Those things are fine for that skinny little guy but I'm 6 ft 3 and 270 lb. Don't think that thing would be safe for me.

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from Del in KS wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

BTW I use a Summit Goliath climber and switch to a blind if there is no suitable tree. Yes the climbing harness goes too. I fell off a step ladder a few years ago and had 2 surgeries because of it. You do not want to fall out of a tree for sure.

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from Jere Smith wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

I never leave the ground, blinds work fine.

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from menahgamonsters wrote 1 year 36 weeks ago

Wow, did he have time to hunt this season. There are may a slower way to get in the stand but for now he has it.

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from jamesti wrote 1 year 38 weeks ago

i've done it both ways but will opt for a tether if i can without it being more of a pain than it needs to be. not sure why he took that belt off when he was climbing down. that's when a lot of people fall.

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from buckhunter wrote 1 year 38 weeks ago

I free style and I'm not ashamed to admit it. I put my stands in trees of all shapes and sizes which makes using safety equipment very difficult. The young man in the video does a very good job of setting up on a clean tree but how often do you set up on a clean tree? If I was to hunt the tree used in the video it would be perfect for a climber.

I save my fixed stands for odd-ball trees with funny bends or lots of branches. I try to maintain 3 points of contact with the tree at all times. In other words before I move my hand I make sure both feet and the other hand are firmly planted.

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from dneaster3 wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

Where I hunt a climber is all I need, and I always am tethered with safety harness. As with most skills, with practice I have become proficient and it adds little to no time to my climbing.

If I were to use a fixed stand and sticks, I agree with buckhunter, they'd be for crooked, branched trees. In that case, I would not get in a hurry and I'd set the stand on a non-hunting day. That's just me.

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from jbird wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

For hanging or building stands, I usually free climb. I've had 12 years of training in high climbing, now that doesn't make it smart, but I feel pretty confident. I have made a make-shift climbers belt to free up both my hands a few times. When I use my climber, I ALWAYS wear a harness.

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from Bellringer wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

I have never seen the need for climbing trees like a monkey. I have hunted deer for over 50 years, have averaged one deer per year, killed 1 from a tree stand (lean on ladder with platform) and 1 from an elevated box blind (5 feet from the ground) all others were taken either standing, sitting or lying on the ground.
Friends who habitually use tree stands tell me that many deer now look up at them, so is the element of suprise lost. The only advantage that I can see for tree stands is possibly being able to see down into brush or possibly see a longer distance. I like to hunt in thickets because I believe that is where the bucks are.

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from gf319804 wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

It amazes me how many people refuse to wear a harness while climbing into and hunting a treestand. I was raised that safety was the #1 concern when using a treestand, and I continue to follow that rule today. In my opinion, anyone who chooses not to use a harness is a lazy and selfish person. Do you not think about your family and returning home safe to them when you are in the woods? While I agree a harness can be uncomfortable and sometimes get in the way, I would never scale a tree without one; my life is too valuable to me. I have also seen the result of falling from a stand happen to a friend of mine, and I guarantee you he wishes he would have worn a harness on that day that changed his life forever. As the person behind the making of this video, I can guarantee you that safety is my number one concern. I check my equipment before each use and periodically tighten and loc-tite all bolts. While some of you may feel that using a lineman's harness will not prevent a fall, it will slow you down and it sure as heck beats using no safety equipment at all. In closing, I wish you all the best this year and pray that none of you take a fall that will change your life forever.

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from FirstBubba wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

Charlie finally go on a deer lease. Having never killed a deer (he was almost 50) he decided to build his own tree stand.
He selected a nice, straight sweet gum. Built a really nice platform at about 30 to 35 feet AGL*! (above ground level!)
Returns to hunt said "tree stand" while no one else was in camp. Sure enough, Charlie's first deer walks out 30 yards from the tree and Charlie blows him down with his single shot H&R .45-70.
Unfortunately, in his excitement, Charlie becomes altitudinally disoriented and in his haste to "lay hands" on his first deer, WALKS OUT OF TREE STAND!
Thankfully, there were folks in a camp not too far away that heard his cries of help! He only broke one leg!
Charlie hunts on the ground now!! LOL!

Bubba

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from Dcast wrote 1 year 38 weeks ago

I go freestyle. Harnesses and the such get in the way and get hung up on branches causing more problems. I know it is not an ideal situation, but I feel safer and always go hunting with a friend and always let someone know where I'm at and when I plan to come home just in case.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from tpbesone wrote 1 year 38 weeks ago

I also don't attach myself to the tree when hanging stands. I've found that having a tether above my head gets in the way more than it helps. I do tether to the tree once I'm in the stand, but I believe in maintaining 3 points of contact at all times and taking things slow. The guy in the video does a very efficeint job, but I would be checking each climbing stick before I just climbed to the top of it.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from senkoman12 wrote 1 year 38 weeks ago

i saw that video and am now thinking of getting those sticks but i need to get a linemans belt like he was using. my dad has some ameristep ones but never used a belt but i feel safer using one

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from leifjohn wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

I get my first 2 sticks on, as they are not too far off the ground, then once I get to my 3rd stick, I use my lineman's belt around the tree while mounting the 3rd stick, and then my stand which is usually not much higher if any than my top (3rd) stick. I can do this in about the same time it would take me to setup a climbing stand.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from jjas wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

I'll be honest. When putting hand on stands in or taking them out I never used a safety line of any sort. I did try to maintain three points of contact but I never used a safety harness until I was in the stand and I always unhooked to climb down.

Luckily, I never fell. Now I spend the majority of my time in tripods, ladders and ground blinds.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from MLH wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

Lineman's belt, even without the safety feature, just makes it so much easier to deal with the sticks - frees both hands.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Clay Cooper wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

Climbing Sticks I have you stick them together like a pole ladder

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from BackstrapAssasn wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

I have these same sticks and a Lone Wolf Assault Hang On. This will be my first season using them but I have been practicing getting up into the tree quite a bit. I understand everyone's arguments against the use of any sort of attachment on the way up, but I personally will always use it. I wish there was a better way to ascend with the linemans rope when there are substantial branches without disconnecting the linemans and moving it above the branch. I find that I put myself in more danger detaching the Linemans setup when I encounter a branch than if I weren't using it at all. The dexterity and focus involved in swapping the Lineman's above a branch often causes me to choose a different tree which kind of defeats the purpose of sticks and a hang-on over a climber which is unfortunate.

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from Walt Smith wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

I'm with Clay-- I prefer the security of a pole ladder, and you can preach the harness all day but for me I've never used one and I just feel that with your camo on and the excitement of getting a shot the last thing I need is my string or a pully to get caught up in the contraption and being the cause of a accident.

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from Modern Day Moun... wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

I've never hunted in a stand, but this mkes it look easy enough.

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from countitandone wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

Hurt ~
The tree in the video is just this side of a peeler log! And straight as a string!

I'm built same as the kid in the film, only 40 yrs his senior. I still climb gang forms on the job and although this is not an OSHA training film, looks safe enough.

I call b.s. on the "less than a half hour." It'd take 30 minutes alone to clean that tree!

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from FirstBubba wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

I think I have you all beat!
I DON'T CLIMB!!!!
Spent many hours sitting in tree stands as a younger man.
Also spent many hours pounding sixty penny spikes into oak trees for steps and lag screwing platforms to the tree. That's what we called "hang ons", back in 60's and 70's. No such thing as safety belts. I've even curled up on platform and taken a short nap. No harness! It's a wonder I'm still alive!
I would still like to use tree stands. They offer an advantage that box and pop ups just can't match. My current physical condition doesn't DISallow it, it's just that I don't need to be causing any further damage!! LOL!!

Bubba

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from Whackdaddy wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

Freestyle and reckless, and it will bite me in the arse some day.

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from jfgann66 wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

When I can do it, I use my climbing stand and work it backwards. I climb to the destination of my stand use a rope to hoist it in the air attach it to the tree. Then attach the climbing sticks on the way down. I am old fat and out of shape to stand on a stick while working and much prefer to stand on my climbing stand platform to work. Also I use the safety harness while doing this. luckily the time I did fall I lived and ever sense then safety harness is the way to go!

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from steve182 wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

I always use a harness when hunting from a treestand, but I admit i am vulnerable when hanging them, freestyle. As i get older and lose my nerve, agility and flexibility, I'll probably do the right thing and tether up.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Del in KS wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

Those things are fine for that skinny little guy but I'm 6 ft 3 and 270 lb. Don't think that thing would be safe for me.

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from Del in KS wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

BTW I use a Summit Goliath climber and switch to a blind if there is no suitable tree. Yes the climbing harness goes too. I fell off a step ladder a few years ago and had 2 surgeries because of it. You do not want to fall out of a tree for sure.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Jere Smith wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

I never leave the ground, blinds work fine.

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from menahgamonsters wrote 1 year 36 weeks ago

Wow, did he have time to hunt this season. There are may a slower way to get in the stand but for now he has it.

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