You're either fishing, or you're feeding the geese.....do 'em dirty and put that bread fly in the water.....away from the ducks.

You fly guys are an odd bunch. Of course you throw a bait the fish are keyed in on.

Yep throw em the bread. I don't fly fish but bait is bait.

Dangle, if you would please refer to the "Editor's Column"(page 6-7) of the April 2013 issue of "Angling Trade Magazine" when referring to Fly Fishing, thanks! :)

Koldkut. Why do I need to refer to that bit of journalism? I know what fly fishing is, and how it is defined by the better fly anglers.

Many anglers at Orvis, and who support Orvis are not snobs. It is the Average Joe Angler that feels the need to call them snobs. And the successful folks in our communities have been particulary under attack in this present era we live in for reasons I do not care to expand on.

Hey Jimmie!

Got to relate this funny story, about "bread flies" I get a call from a guy that had a private planted lake. He charged at the time $150 an angler, and that was a standard fee for quality planted trout lakes. No boats, just shore angling. The guy had an automatic feeder on a timer that stuck up out of the lake that would spray dog food pellets as fish food. I got a free day on his lake for turning clients of mine onto the place. There were 10 lb plus rainbows in the lake. Gross looking huge bodied rainbows guys luved having a picture taken holding one up. The fly guys found out they took standard flies very poorly until they discovered that if they tied a brown dog food pellet fly they would score right away. The guy legislated against dog food pellet flies. Then guys would use a brown strike indicator, and drop off a standard fly just say 6" below the indicator. Rainbows would take the indicator, they'd jerk, and hook the rainbows on the dropper. I hooked one that day, a huge beer bellied looking brute I wanted to get a picture holding, and the darn thing bottomed out, or bellied out in about 6" of water, and I lost it.

There's a fishery in Costa Rica, where they tease Marlin close to the boat dragging a bait fish on high overhead outriggers. The keep the bait fish bouncing on the surface just ahead of the attacking Marlin, and when it gets close to the boat, they pull the bait fish away, and you sling in a big, artificial fly where the bait fish was, and smack in front of Mr. Marlin. Your line is stripped off the reel, and placed in a water bucket so you don't fry your hand when the Marlin streeks off into the distance. Rods are 12 wts, and there abouts. You hold the fly in your hand, and the cast is no longer than say 10-12 ft out the back of the boat. My friend bought the whole 9 yds.... rod, big reel, and paid for the trip down TWICE in one Summer he was so impressed with the adrenaline rush.

Absolutely it would be fly fishing if an artificial. Some fly guys frown on using artificial garden worms like the San Juan worm. Misguided thinking from my standpt. You are matching what they are eating with an artificial fly.

Sir Smelly, I think you answered your own question with, "it's the spot-and-stalk I love" Or at least you can answer it yourself: tie some doughball flies, catch a few at minimal effort on your behalf and see if you prefer the "a tug's a tug" approach or if it's really the thrill of the hunt and those fewer and further between that will take your berries that gets your blood pumping. I have a feeling it's the latter.

I hate to hear carp talk raised to this level of reverence. After all, they are just a lowly trash fish, robbers of spawning beds, takers of forage and underwater bullies.

I willing to bet most of you guys, even Pastor Dangle, has snagged one just for the fun of it. I have.

Buck, I'll be at a friends place this weekend doing a little bit of swimming, grilling, drinking, and more than likely we'll chuck out a few cans of corn, save a few kernels for the hooks, drop some poles in rod holders and kick back and wait for a bender. While I promise you it will be fun, if I was taking the day off just for fishing it wouldn't be sitting on my butt waiting for fish to hone in on a bait pile.

Also, never underestimate Pastor Sayfu... I wonder if that guy ever has any fun.

Nuke...just some info that good fly fisherman in general know about good fishing practices. When fish consume corn, kernal corn they can not digest it, or pass it on. they die. That is why I quit using corn, and marshmellows when I bait fished for trout in particular. This info comes from the fish biologists. And fun? I go to bed at nite with a big smile on my face having fun just dreaming about fly fishing.

And I said "fish" It may only apply to trout, and not to carp. Carp ingest a lot of bottom "stuff" vegetation, crawfish one of their favorites etc. I just like to discuss good info anglers can use, and react to bad info, or misinformation, as if it were fact. And I just got back from fly fishing this morning...3 rainbows on a new fly concept I have had. Doesn't always work out, and its often back to the drawing board.

If you can not make up your mind about the bread fly, skip it and go right for the hot dog.