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May 29, 2013

An Open Letter From "Science" to "River Monsters"

By Joe Cermele

I've mentioned in this space in the past that "River Monsters" is not my favorite show. I think that's because I'm too into fishing, and look at it with an angler's eye instead of the eye of non-fisher folk who tune in purely to be entertained. My biggest gripe was always that the fish made out to be man-eating "monsters" are no monsters at all. Apparently, I'm not the only one that felt this way, because writer Kyle Hill over at Scientific American recently published an open letter to Animal Planet about how he can't stand the "demonization" of these fish. And guess what? Host Jeremy Wade himself answered.

You can read the entire letter from Hill, plus Wade's response here. But just for a point/counterpoint highlight:

Hill: Here is a list of the descriptive words you chose to use in episode titles for River Monsters: killer, man-eater, assassins, flesh-eaters, demon, death ray, horror, predator, mutilator, flesh ripper, chainsaw predator, electric executioner, slayer, mauler, face ripper, killer torpedo, slasher. I understand that the show takes unexplained deaths and attacks and investigates them, but you are turning these typically harmless fish into actual monsters. 

Wade: ...people should have a healthy fear of these fish — in certain circumstances. But this is not the same thing as demonizing them. The fact that I put the fish back into the water conveys a very strong message, which most of the audience instinctively understand. I say this because out of all the hundreds of mails I’ve received, only a handful have been along the lines of: “Why did you put that man-eating fish back in the water?”

It's a pretty interesting exchange. Let me know what you think.

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from habben97 wrote 2 weeks 2 days ago

the whole show is way too exaggerated. it would be better if he just talked about the fish in a reasonable way, and then went fishing. no hype about how these fish cant wait to kill you, because, you know, they would rather just eat and swim.

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from FOX wrote 2 weeks 2 days ago

I have always enjoyed and watched the show when it is on the respect he show's to the animals he peruse is amazing considering that most of the people he talks to want them killed on the spot. I have also enjoyed seeing these sometimes far off places and seeing the life that is in their rivers.He also shows the native people who live along side these great creatures of the deep.

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from Koldkut wrote 2 weeks 2 days ago

I hope everyone reads the letters in the link, the paragraph of Wade's letter makes a solid point as well. I would like to see a response from animal planet on the mermaids piece.....I was made to watch that one and man.....oh man.....what an abomination...

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from huntnow wrote 2 weeks 2 days ago

Joe, I agree with you and Mr. Hill but, you have to take the show for what it is. I DVR the program, fast forward through all the bloody BS and watch the fishing. I am a fan of Wade though, he is one persistent dude and fishes in areas I'll never see and conditions that I would not endure. I don't even like fishing in the summer rain.

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from rjw wrote 2 weeks 2 days ago

I enjoy watching River Monsters for the simple fact that I get to learn about all of the fascinating fish species located throughout the world and not just my little slice of it. I also try not to read too deep into the show or for that fact most any show for the simple fact of ratings, any show or host will do what they need to obtain these ratings. I admire Jeremy Wade for the simple facts of his knowledge and angling skills along with the message he is conveying to the audience as much as I admire your skills as Fishing Editor of Field & Stream, giving us Hook Shots videos along with the many other tips and tricks along with some good reads in between. As far as the exchange of e-mails between Kyle and Jeremy, that only proves that they both have the same passion for fish and fishing, everything in between is simply ratings. I see Jeremy as a person who happened to be in the right place at the right time and is doing the best he can with what he has to convey his message to the masses, Kyle is no different except Kyle has a smaller audience.

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from js246608 wrote 2 weeks 2 days ago

I like River Monsters as well. However, it's fairly obvious when certain parts of Jeremy Wade's dialogue are scripted to fit into mainstream television. The best parts are when he's actually fishing and talking unscripted. I hope he's not the one writing all the junk they use to grab interest from modern viewers, because it's a pretty low-brow bid for attention on a network that is otherwise full of reality shows.

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from mspl8sdcntryboy wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

While it is true that these fish probably wouldn't hesitate to take a piece of your leg, it is also true that while they can doesn't mean they will, just like a dog.

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from buckhunter wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

In general, I consider nothing on TV be be factual or even remotely genuine.

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from nuclear_fisher wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

I happened across that piece over the weekend, and I have say I agree with both parties. The danger is way over-hyped in most instances (he did catch a real monster bull shark after all), but the host regularly swims around with toothy mothers that I certainly wouldn't want to do (specifically those alligator gar and the pool of piranha). As mentioned above, I don't think the problem is with Mr. Wade as much as it is with some marketing gurus at Animal Planet.

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from nuclear_fisher wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

Another thing I would like to point out, and I think the rest of the peanut gallery seems to be in general agreement with, is that they could have shot a minimal amount of additional footage and probably created an additional ~30 min fishing show for each episode that *we* would be really interested in. Spending more time on the fish habitat, patterns, forage, the bait and tackle required, etc., etc. Of course without all the hype that show would probably fail miserably on the Animal Planet. I'm not the biggest fan of River Monsters either, but there's no denying that Jeremy Wade really knows his stuff.

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from ejunk wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

they both make great points and I enjoyed reading this.

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from NJAngler wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

Most people know that shows are going to be dramatized, and River Monsters is no exception. However, I think that the show has done more to encourage interest in fish and angling than it has hurt anything. I believe that the manufactured drama is too much as well, but I still enjoy learning about and seeing the various fish species.

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from Dcast wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

I think Kyle Hill is an idiot. Clearly he has never watched the show otherwise he would notice 90%+ of the shows are recorded in extremely poor areas that do not have electricity let alone a freaking TV! All this is nonsense Jeremy Wade is a zoologist & biologist studying the creatures he is passionate about while telling stories of what these creatures are capable of. Also it's clear that Mr. Hill hasn't watched the television or read a book, magazine, newspaper, etc... in quite awhile otherwise he would understand to get peoples attention you must give whatever story your telling a overly exaggerated title to get the mindnumb public to read or watch. It's called marketing for the nimble of minds. This whole controversy if you'd call it one is Mr. Hill trying to get his name and magazine out there which is marketing in and of itself. There is nothing to this Mr. Wade's show is fascinating to some and a Hollywood movie (extremely exaggerated) to others. I personally like the show for the same reasons as many others have stated before me, but even this nimbleminded guy understands a lot of the verbiage is a marketing ploy by APL.

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from poetwild wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

Through his interesting program, Mr Wade has taken me to some extraordinary, wild places and shown me some fish species I have never encountered. He has given some insights into the habitat of these creatures and the nature of their behavior. The program informs me through direct observation and the narrative of this knowledgeable fisheries scientist.

Considering other competing natural world shows such as that absurd "Naked Survivor" series, the silly "family in AK" programs and the usual "guilty human hunter" portrayals in many documentaries on African animals, I find Mr Wade's offering much more palatable.

Through Mr Wades's program I have seen some extraordinary catfish species around the planet, the unique predatory fish of Mongolia and the hyper-aggressive creatures of African and South American rivers. He's taught me things of value along with his respectful handling of these beasts, his incredible persistence in pursuit and his well honed angling skills.

I am appreciative that he is naturalist, a sportsman and an honest person as is obvious by his realistic portrayal of his frustrations and failures. Consider that in relation to the standard "hook bass by the bushel" fishing shows. Or compare that to those self-righteous nature shows by some wildlife biologists blaming hunters for every endangered herd specie in Africa even though the countries that still permit big game hunting have the healthiest, sustainable herds.

I vote for for the star of River Monsters.

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from casestevenson wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

my favorite is the "killer torpedo." with a tarpon on the line he gets it stuck in a tree, and then he gets stuck in the tree trying to free it. The string of profanities that they had to edit out gave me hope that, maybe under all the hype and drama, a real angler still exists... although its no hook shots!

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from bscrandall wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

I like the show. I think Mr. Wade cares more for the fish and people than Kyle Hill thinks.

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from tritonrider wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

It's television folks, and not PBS so it has to make money to stay on the air. Yes some of it's over the top, but please feel free to point out the other fishing shows that are more inline with your tastes that are as widely seen or in a position to shine a positive light on fishing? I'd really like to know what they are so I can watch them too. Hint if average people don't find it to be entertaining then it's going to be buried on a specialty channel if it's on anywhere at all. If you are too good to watch then go back to fishing size 22 dry flies, nothing wet or bigger of course, and trashing everyone else out there for not fishing right and leave the rest of us to do our thing.

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from idahoguy101 wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

I had a Minister friend who attracted 3 times as many students to a Bible class by naming it "Biblical Myths and Mysteries" rather than "Old Testament 101". Marketing is essential to attract an audience. Jeremy Wade television show "River Monsters" is teaching about fish in an interesting way. He uses some hyperbole to attract viewers. If Scientific American is offended... So what? Scientific American should take out some advertisments for subscribers rather than nitpick.

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from tkbone wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

Most reasonable people (including fishermen) are able to suspend their disbelief enough to enjoy the show. Just because I don't believe arapaima and wels catfish are dangerous killer fish doesn't mean I can't enjoy watching Wade pursue and catch them. Saying you're "too into fishing" to enjoy this show is like a doctor or lawyer saying they're too into medicine or law practice to enjoy "ER" or "Law and Order." The authentic, real thing doesn't sell advertising or stay on the air, which is the goal - not to satisfy Cermele or Kyle Hill's need for full and complete authenticity without any fluff.

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from wisc14 wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

i agree with dcast.

these terms are just made to draw in some viewers but when you actually watch the show it usually turns out these animals are harmless and attacks on humans are very rare.

love the show. kyle hill is just trying to get himself some attention

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from themadflyfisher wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

I'll admit when the show first came out I wasn't a fan but then on a rainy day a couple years ago I watched a marathon and I became a fan. Yes, there is the over-the-top drama which the wife loves to point out as we watch it, but so what. I have read up on Jeremy Wade and the guy is no joke! He is a very knowledgable biologist and angler and he has my respect. Even when Shakespear came out with the River Monsters rod kit for kids at Walmart I was like really?! But then my little nephew got the rod and he went fishing and continues to go fishing so you know what? I'm all for the River Monsters rod combo.
It's so easy anymore to just hate and dismiss stuff that at first take we don't like but far more often than not if you look at things with an open mind you will probably change your mind..

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from Jeremy Verdugo wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

I love this show and I'm a fisheries technologies student. Entertain a thought but don't accept it....I have seen him recently misidentify a fish and make a claim the that the bowfin was a member of the gar family. There's just something about watching him or anybody actually pull in a 100lb tarpon from a small river. I love HookShots and River Monsters...usually after watching either one I'm fishing shortly thereafter

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from Shellcracker wrote 2 weeks 22 hours ago

I respect it because it shows the guy losing fish, missing fish etc. and actually gets into the science of the creatures. Its way better than watching 4 days of fishing edited to make it look like 1 hour or to watch someone fish in a farm pond on Saturday mornings or a "hunting" show on a private food plot. If they set it up like a nat geo documentary, nobody would watch it.

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from Koldkut wrote 2 weeks 21 hours ago

On the season finale, his fly casting has showed vast improvements over his previous fly ventures.

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from Tim Platt wrote 2 weeks 14 hours ago

I am like everyone else, I watch the show and complain. Last time some guy 100 years ago had his fishing line tied around his toe and was dragged into the water by a river monster and killed. Could this happen??? Well yeah, it depends how much he was drinking.

At least it gets people interested in fish, that is the whole idea in this world of instant gratification.

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from nehunter92 wrote 2 weeks 41 min ago

I like River Monsters. As many have said, if you actually watch the show you’ll know that Wade does actually care about the fish he pursues. He releases almost all of the fish he catches, and often he details the environmental impacts of overfishing and invasive species. Sure the title is meant to grab viewers attention, but in a way, Wade uses ‘monster” almost as a term of respect rather revulsion. I remember from one of the earlier shows (the Goonch Catfish one I think), he stated something to the effect of “when the monsters disappear, that will be the real tragedy.” Some of the episodes were actually dedicated to proving the nasty reputation of some species as undeserved, such as the Alligator Gar, and even Piranhas.
Of all the stupid crap on TV parading as nature shows these days, from those idiotic “Finding Bigfoot” shows, to that beyond disgusting “Mermaids: The Body Found,” I’m puzzled as to why Hill chose to go after the one show featuring a real, honest to god scientist.

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from small game sportsman wrote 1 week 6 days ago

First off, I like river monsters. I think both sides have a good point. The fish Jeremy tends to go after are some of the more dangerous fish out there. He is not going to fish for bass in a show called "River Monsters". But on the other side, the good majority of these circumstances they describe in the show are very rare. They are not "monsters" who will attack anything and everything in the water. This shows in the fact that he has trouble in almost every episode catching the fish. But in Jeremy's defense, his releasing the fish after almost every show (with the only exception being to feed an entire village) shows that these fish are safe enough to be in the water. He is not saying for people to kill them in mass numbers.

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from Retired Chief wrote 1 week 6 days ago

It's ENTERTAINMENT, not a hardcore fishing show just for dedicated anglers. Yes, I've caught a few errors in the show the same as Verdugo, and I've noticed editing errors that show Wade fishing with different tackle in the same segment, I can get past it a little bit. I think it would vastly better if they geared the show to avid anglers, but that's not what it's all about. I love the show, I think Wade is one of the VERY few real badasses on TV (he knows how to get through some incredibly tough situations with tact... read his book) and I'll continue watching it as long as it's on. In fact I have lost almost all interest in any of the "fishing" shows on the sports networks except for In-Fisherman TV. They are all a bunch of crap. If I EVER see another BASS idiot jumping up and down screaming like an adolescent girl because he caught another 1 pound bass on his 65 pound superline out of his $65K BassCar, it will be too soon. I'd rather watch Wade sitting in a downpour catching nothing while talking about the POSSIBILITY of real mystery in our waters.

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from stick500 wrote 1 week 6 days ago

One word- Goonch!

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from stick500 wrote 1 week 6 days ago

BTW, great comment Retired Chief- you summed up my feelings as well.

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from barefootwt wrote 3 days 18 hours ago

I think "River Monsters" is THE best fishing program on the air! Mr. Wade has definitely earned my respect plainly by being an angler who is also a scientist! To have another so-called scientist try to belittle him is so distasteful. Let's put a rod in Kyle Hill's hands and drop him in the Amazon or the Mekong, and see him back up his writting! The "Crocks" will have a feast!

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from Retired Chief wrote 1 week 6 days ago

It's ENTERTAINMENT, not a hardcore fishing show just for dedicated anglers. Yes, I've caught a few errors in the show the same as Verdugo, and I've noticed editing errors that show Wade fishing with different tackle in the same segment, I can get past it a little bit. I think it would vastly better if they geared the show to avid anglers, but that's not what it's all about. I love the show, I think Wade is one of the VERY few real badasses on TV (he knows how to get through some incredibly tough situations with tact... read his book) and I'll continue watching it as long as it's on. In fact I have lost almost all interest in any of the "fishing" shows on the sports networks except for In-Fisherman TV. They are all a bunch of crap. If I EVER see another BASS idiot jumping up and down screaming like an adolescent girl because he caught another 1 pound bass on his 65 pound superline out of his $65K BassCar, it will be too soon. I'd rather watch Wade sitting in a downpour catching nothing while talking about the POSSIBILITY of real mystery in our waters.

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from huntnow wrote 2 weeks 2 days ago

Joe, I agree with you and Mr. Hill but, you have to take the show for what it is. I DVR the program, fast forward through all the bloody BS and watch the fishing. I am a fan of Wade though, he is one persistent dude and fishes in areas I'll never see and conditions that I would not endure. I don't even like fishing in the summer rain.

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from Dcast wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

I think Kyle Hill is an idiot. Clearly he has never watched the show otherwise he would notice 90%+ of the shows are recorded in extremely poor areas that do not have electricity let alone a freaking TV! All this is nonsense Jeremy Wade is a zoologist & biologist studying the creatures he is passionate about while telling stories of what these creatures are capable of. Also it's clear that Mr. Hill hasn't watched the television or read a book, magazine, newspaper, etc... in quite awhile otherwise he would understand to get peoples attention you must give whatever story your telling a overly exaggerated title to get the mindnumb public to read or watch. It's called marketing for the nimble of minds. This whole controversy if you'd call it one is Mr. Hill trying to get his name and magazine out there which is marketing in and of itself. There is nothing to this Mr. Wade's show is fascinating to some and a Hollywood movie (extremely exaggerated) to others. I personally like the show for the same reasons as many others have stated before me, but even this nimbleminded guy understands a lot of the verbiage is a marketing ploy by APL.

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from Koldkut wrote 2 weeks 2 days ago

I hope everyone reads the letters in the link, the paragraph of Wade's letter makes a solid point as well. I would like to see a response from animal planet on the mermaids piece.....I was made to watch that one and man.....oh man.....what an abomination...

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from Koldkut wrote 2 weeks 21 hours ago

On the season finale, his fly casting has showed vast improvements over his previous fly ventures.

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from rjw wrote 2 weeks 2 days ago

I enjoy watching River Monsters for the simple fact that I get to learn about all of the fascinating fish species located throughout the world and not just my little slice of it. I also try not to read too deep into the show or for that fact most any show for the simple fact of ratings, any show or host will do what they need to obtain these ratings. I admire Jeremy Wade for the simple facts of his knowledge and angling skills along with the message he is conveying to the audience as much as I admire your skills as Fishing Editor of Field & Stream, giving us Hook Shots videos along with the many other tips and tricks along with some good reads in between. As far as the exchange of e-mails between Kyle and Jeremy, that only proves that they both have the same passion for fish and fishing, everything in between is simply ratings. I see Jeremy as a person who happened to be in the right place at the right time and is doing the best he can with what he has to convey his message to the masses, Kyle is no different except Kyle has a smaller audience.

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from themadflyfisher wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

I'll admit when the show first came out I wasn't a fan but then on a rainy day a couple years ago I watched a marathon and I became a fan. Yes, there is the over-the-top drama which the wife loves to point out as we watch it, but so what. I have read up on Jeremy Wade and the guy is no joke! He is a very knowledgable biologist and angler and he has my respect. Even when Shakespear came out with the River Monsters rod kit for kids at Walmart I was like really?! But then my little nephew got the rod and he went fishing and continues to go fishing so you know what? I'm all for the River Monsters rod combo.
It's so easy anymore to just hate and dismiss stuff that at first take we don't like but far more often than not if you look at things with an open mind you will probably change your mind..

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from poetwild wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

Through his interesting program, Mr Wade has taken me to some extraordinary, wild places and shown me some fish species I have never encountered. He has given some insights into the habitat of these creatures and the nature of their behavior. The program informs me through direct observation and the narrative of this knowledgeable fisheries scientist.

Considering other competing natural world shows such as that absurd "Naked Survivor" series, the silly "family in AK" programs and the usual "guilty human hunter" portrayals in many documentaries on African animals, I find Mr Wade's offering much more palatable.

Through Mr Wades's program I have seen some extraordinary catfish species around the planet, the unique predatory fish of Mongolia and the hyper-aggressive creatures of African and South American rivers. He's taught me things of value along with his respectful handling of these beasts, his incredible persistence in pursuit and his well honed angling skills.

I am appreciative that he is naturalist, a sportsman and an honest person as is obvious by his realistic portrayal of his frustrations and failures. Consider that in relation to the standard "hook bass by the bushel" fishing shows. Or compare that to those self-righteous nature shows by some wildlife biologists blaming hunters for every endangered herd specie in Africa even though the countries that still permit big game hunting have the healthiest, sustainable herds.

I vote for for the star of River Monsters.

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from buckhunter wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

In general, I consider nothing on TV be be factual or even remotely genuine.

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from Shellcracker wrote 2 weeks 22 hours ago

I respect it because it shows the guy losing fish, missing fish etc. and actually gets into the science of the creatures. Its way better than watching 4 days of fishing edited to make it look like 1 hour or to watch someone fish in a farm pond on Saturday mornings or a "hunting" show on a private food plot. If they set it up like a nat geo documentary, nobody would watch it.

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from wisc14 wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

i agree with dcast.

these terms are just made to draw in some viewers but when you actually watch the show it usually turns out these animals are harmless and attacks on humans are very rare.

love the show. kyle hill is just trying to get himself some attention

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from nuclear_fisher wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

Another thing I would like to point out, and I think the rest of the peanut gallery seems to be in general agreement with, is that they could have shot a minimal amount of additional footage and probably created an additional ~30 min fishing show for each episode that *we* would be really interested in. Spending more time on the fish habitat, patterns, forage, the bait and tackle required, etc., etc. Of course without all the hype that show would probably fail miserably on the Animal Planet. I'm not the biggest fan of River Monsters either, but there's no denying that Jeremy Wade really knows his stuff.

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from tkbone wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

Most reasonable people (including fishermen) are able to suspend their disbelief enough to enjoy the show. Just because I don't believe arapaima and wels catfish are dangerous killer fish doesn't mean I can't enjoy watching Wade pursue and catch them. Saying you're "too into fishing" to enjoy this show is like a doctor or lawyer saying they're too into medicine or law practice to enjoy "ER" or "Law and Order." The authentic, real thing doesn't sell advertising or stay on the air, which is the goal - not to satisfy Cermele or Kyle Hill's need for full and complete authenticity without any fluff.

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from casestevenson wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

my favorite is the "killer torpedo." with a tarpon on the line he gets it stuck in a tree, and then he gets stuck in the tree trying to free it. The string of profanities that they had to edit out gave me hope that, maybe under all the hype and drama, a real angler still exists... although its no hook shots!

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from js246608 wrote 2 weeks 2 days ago

I like River Monsters as well. However, it's fairly obvious when certain parts of Jeremy Wade's dialogue are scripted to fit into mainstream television. The best parts are when he's actually fishing and talking unscripted. I hope he's not the one writing all the junk they use to grab interest from modern viewers, because it's a pretty low-brow bid for attention on a network that is otherwise full of reality shows.

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from Jeremy Verdugo wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

I love this show and I'm a fisheries technologies student. Entertain a thought but don't accept it....I have seen him recently misidentify a fish and make a claim the that the bowfin was a member of the gar family. There's just something about watching him or anybody actually pull in a 100lb tarpon from a small river. I love HookShots and River Monsters...usually after watching either one I'm fishing shortly thereafter

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from tritonrider wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

It's television folks, and not PBS so it has to make money to stay on the air. Yes some of it's over the top, but please feel free to point out the other fishing shows that are more inline with your tastes that are as widely seen or in a position to shine a positive light on fishing? I'd really like to know what they are so I can watch them too. Hint if average people don't find it to be entertaining then it's going to be buried on a specialty channel if it's on anywhere at all. If you are too good to watch then go back to fishing size 22 dry flies, nothing wet or bigger of course, and trashing everyone else out there for not fishing right and leave the rest of us to do our thing.

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from NJAngler wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

Most people know that shows are going to be dramatized, and River Monsters is no exception. However, I think that the show has done more to encourage interest in fish and angling than it has hurt anything. I believe that the manufactured drama is too much as well, but I still enjoy learning about and seeing the various fish species.

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from Tim Platt wrote 2 weeks 14 hours ago

I am like everyone else, I watch the show and complain. Last time some guy 100 years ago had his fishing line tied around his toe and was dragged into the water by a river monster and killed. Could this happen??? Well yeah, it depends how much he was drinking.

At least it gets people interested in fish, that is the whole idea in this world of instant gratification.

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from ejunk wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

they both make great points and I enjoyed reading this.

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from stick500 wrote 1 week 6 days ago

One word- Goonch!

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from stick500 wrote 1 week 6 days ago

BTW, great comment Retired Chief- you summed up my feelings as well.

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from nuclear_fisher wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

I happened across that piece over the weekend, and I have say I agree with both parties. The danger is way over-hyped in most instances (he did catch a real monster bull shark after all), but the host regularly swims around with toothy mothers that I certainly wouldn't want to do (specifically those alligator gar and the pool of piranha). As mentioned above, I don't think the problem is with Mr. Wade as much as it is with some marketing gurus at Animal Planet.

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from idahoguy101 wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

I had a Minister friend who attracted 3 times as many students to a Bible class by naming it "Biblical Myths and Mysteries" rather than "Old Testament 101". Marketing is essential to attract an audience. Jeremy Wade television show "River Monsters" is teaching about fish in an interesting way. He uses some hyperbole to attract viewers. If Scientific American is offended... So what? Scientific American should take out some advertisments for subscribers rather than nitpick.

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from mspl8sdcntryboy wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

While it is true that these fish probably wouldn't hesitate to take a piece of your leg, it is also true that while they can doesn't mean they will, just like a dog.

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from habben97 wrote 2 weeks 2 days ago

the whole show is way too exaggerated. it would be better if he just talked about the fish in a reasonable way, and then went fishing. no hype about how these fish cant wait to kill you, because, you know, they would rather just eat and swim.

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from FOX wrote 2 weeks 2 days ago

I have always enjoyed and watched the show when it is on the respect he show's to the animals he peruse is amazing considering that most of the people he talks to want them killed on the spot. I have also enjoyed seeing these sometimes far off places and seeing the life that is in their rivers.He also shows the native people who live along side these great creatures of the deep.

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from barefootwt wrote 3 days 18 hours ago

I think "River Monsters" is THE best fishing program on the air! Mr. Wade has definitely earned my respect plainly by being an angler who is also a scientist! To have another so-called scientist try to belittle him is so distasteful. Let's put a rod in Kyle Hill's hands and drop him in the Amazon or the Mekong, and see him back up his writting! The "Crocks" will have a feast!

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from nehunter92 wrote 2 weeks 41 min ago

I like River Monsters. As many have said, if you actually watch the show you’ll know that Wade does actually care about the fish he pursues. He releases almost all of the fish he catches, and often he details the environmental impacts of overfishing and invasive species. Sure the title is meant to grab viewers attention, but in a way, Wade uses ‘monster” almost as a term of respect rather revulsion. I remember from one of the earlier shows (the Goonch Catfish one I think), he stated something to the effect of “when the monsters disappear, that will be the real tragedy.” Some of the episodes were actually dedicated to proving the nasty reputation of some species as undeserved, such as the Alligator Gar, and even Piranhas.
Of all the stupid crap on TV parading as nature shows these days, from those idiotic “Finding Bigfoot” shows, to that beyond disgusting “Mermaids: The Body Found,” I’m puzzled as to why Hill chose to go after the one show featuring a real, honest to god scientist.

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from small game sportsman wrote 1 week 6 days ago

First off, I like river monsters. I think both sides have a good point. The fish Jeremy tends to go after are some of the more dangerous fish out there. He is not going to fish for bass in a show called "River Monsters". But on the other side, the good majority of these circumstances they describe in the show are very rare. They are not "monsters" who will attack anything and everything in the water. This shows in the fact that he has trouble in almost every episode catching the fish. But in Jeremy's defense, his releasing the fish after almost every show (with the only exception being to feed an entire village) shows that these fish are safe enough to be in the water. He is not saying for people to kill them in mass numbers.

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from bscrandall wrote 2 weeks 1 day ago

I like the show. I think Mr. Wade cares more for the fish and people than Kyle Hill thinks.

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