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June 29, 2012

Gun Dog Tips: Give Us Yours, Win a FireKnife

By Chad Love

It's time for another Man's Best Friend reader training tip knife giveway and this week's winner is all about using feeding time to help keep your retriever sharp and polished on those "overs" and "backs."

Teaching your retriever to handle is one of the most important parts of retriever training. It's what separates the guys who can guide their dog into a non or poorly-marked bird from the guys who must resort to chunking rocks or shotgun shells to get their dogs into the right area. No matter how well your dog marks or takes a line on a blind, there are going to be times when you'll need to handle them into a bird. Teaching retrievers to handle is a book-length subject on its own, but this quick and easy tip from reader redfishhunter uses chowtime as a mini training camp on hand signals.

To keep my lab sharp on his hand signals, come dinner time I always sit him on one side of the room and put his food bowl on the other. I will do the appropriate signal and command that sends him in the direction of the food. I change up the direction I send him regularly, and it seems to help keep him accurate in the blind or field. This is especially nice when you don't have time to do the appropriate field drills. Or just to keep him on his A game.

That's an interesting tip. I'll use the food bowl to work on steadiness, but I have to admit I've never thought using it in terms of teaching or reinforcing handling drills. I could also see where this could be a good way to introduce a young pup to the concept. As my old dog gets older, I have, in the past couple years, let her get a little (OK, maybe a lot) sloppy in her basic handling (including sit whistles) but when fall rolls around I generally try to sharpen her up a bit with a few of the normal handling drills. But maybe I should try this, instead, because itf there's one thing my fat old girl responds to quickly, it's food...

Anyone else try this trick with their dog? Congratulations, redfishhunter. I'll be sending you an e-mail soon. And remember, keep the tips coming to fsgundogtips@gmail.com for a chance to win a Swedish FireKnife from Mora and Light My Fire.

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from redfishunter wrote 50 weeks 1 day ago

Sweet. No better way to start off the weekend than a free toy.

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from Ontario Honker ... wrote 50 weeks 23 hours ago

Back in the days when I worried about having my dogs ready for fancy “handling” or blind retrieves the moment I put them in the field, I’d train them as pups using my “home run” method. Mind you, I have never read a training book or been to a dog club so I don’t know if I’m the first one to come up with this, but here’s how it works. It starts out as a two man technique. The training area consists of a field with what would be the equivalent of a baseball diamond marked off. The trainer (me) stands at home plate. The dog and assistant handler are at pitcher’s mound. The three bases are marked with flags initially. With pup out of sight, the trainer hides a treat at one of the bases. Assistant brings dog to pitcher’s mound. Trainer whistles and signals. Assistant points and/or guides the pup to the flag with the treat then lots of positive reinforcement when she finds it. Exercise is repeated with treats hidden at various bases until the pup gets the hang of going to the flag on whistle. Before long the training can be modified to where there are no flags at the bases and the training dummy is left for pup to find instead of treats. In the meantime the pup has been worked with straight retrieve of dummy in other sessions. Then it is a simple matter to train the pup to stay by itself at the pitcher’s mound, go to the hidden dummy on signal, and retrieve it to the trainer at home base. If the pup gets that down pat “handling” in the field and/or blind retrieving on signals will be a snap. It’s a bit labor intensive but this technique is almost guaranteed to work with any pup.

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from Ontario Honker ... wrote 50 weeks 23 hours ago

That home run tip is so good I think it's worth a new car. A Cadillac Escalade would do nicely.

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from redfishunter wrote 49 weeks 5 days ago

I used the 'baseball' technique to initially train my dog hand signals, and ill still do it from time to time. A different variation though. I started at home plate, with dog at pitchers mound, and just threw the bumpers at different spots. Might need a helper to hold dog at pitchers mound if the puppy is still breaking. As he got better I would add another bumper, and another. But the trick above simply helps keep him responding well, especially when i go a real long time without doing any real drills. I've noticed the more dogs do tricks the better they are at them. I've never used treats to train my dog though, just praise. The fact that the master is pleased should be enough of a reward. Although I guess the bowl of food is a pretty nice treat.

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from rolesville rocker wrote 49 weeks 5 days ago

I use the food to teach the dog to pay attention to the hand.
"Sit", treat in hand, move hand to the right "ok", give treat. back to sit, move hand to left "ok", give treat. Get them used to moving head around with the movement of the hand. Especially helpful when introducing right back and left back. A little treat in the bowl behind, but don't get it unless they turn properly. this is an "on the deck" drill but you'll get transference to the yard if they learn to follow the hand.

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from aferraro wrote 49 weeks 5 days ago

Teach your dog to stay on a hot (but not Africa hot) sunny day by placing him in a cool, shady spot under a tree. Since he wants to stay in the shade anyway- it really makes things easier. Remember to use 10 minute sessions and give him plenty of water.

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from Ontario Honker ... wrote 49 weeks 5 days ago

Rocker, that is a good tip for getting a new pup started on the basics in the house. Their attention span works better at close range when they're still just little guys. That seems to me to be a good starter tip. Very good. I give it a Subaru Forester rating.

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from birdshooter wrote 49 weeks 4 days ago

I like to use a racquetball and racquet for training. I have my dog sit-stay while I hit the ball a good distance. Sometimes Sadie will see the ball land and go fetch. Other times she has to scent trail and sniff out the ball. On those occasions I use hand signals with lots of body language to direct Sadie. After some tries Sadie will look to me for the proper hand signal. This is her favorite game and she is learning hand signals. Racquetballs also last a lot longer than tennis balls. This works for me.

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from bowhuntercvv wrote 49 weeks 3 days ago

dip a dog in a combo of 50galons of water 1/4 small bottle of bleach and a large lemon joy to kill and repell fleas ticks and flys

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from Ontario Honker ... wrote 49 weeks 2 days ago

By the way, guys, I have seen one of these knives at the store and they are a fine tool. Doubt I'd ever use the fire starter gizzmo but it also doubles as a good sharpener for the blade. Gave it a few srokes and boy was that thing sharp. Nice how that steel tucks into knife handle. Not a very pretty thing but it seems quite utilitarian. Blade isn't real long (which is fine with me) and I can't see how anyone could ever misplace this knife. One dropped in the woods could probably be easily spotted with a satellite or spy plane.

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from dale freeman wrote 49 weeks 2 days ago

To bowhuntercvv
Now that's a good tip and sounds like it came from a real HUNTER.

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from RES1956 wrote 49 weeks 1 day ago

Repel fleas and ticks, feed them a very small pod from a clove of garlic once a month. I've heard some say that it prevents heartworms too, and it may because it is excreted via the skin and may repel mosquitos that cause the disease. (I'm not trusting it to do that yet though)

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from JustTakeMeHunting14 wrote 48 weeks 3 days ago

bang pots and pans together when you feed the dog as a puppy so when its hunting it isn't gun shy

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from redfishunter wrote 50 weeks 1 day ago

Sweet. No better way to start off the weekend than a free toy.

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from Ontario Honker ... wrote 50 weeks 23 hours ago

Back in the days when I worried about having my dogs ready for fancy “handling” or blind retrieves the moment I put them in the field, I’d train them as pups using my “home run” method. Mind you, I have never read a training book or been to a dog club so I don’t know if I’m the first one to come up with this, but here’s how it works. It starts out as a two man technique. The training area consists of a field with what would be the equivalent of a baseball diamond marked off. The trainer (me) stands at home plate. The dog and assistant handler are at pitcher’s mound. The three bases are marked with flags initially. With pup out of sight, the trainer hides a treat at one of the bases. Assistant brings dog to pitcher’s mound. Trainer whistles and signals. Assistant points and/or guides the pup to the flag with the treat then lots of positive reinforcement when she finds it. Exercise is repeated with treats hidden at various bases until the pup gets the hang of going to the flag on whistle. Before long the training can be modified to where there are no flags at the bases and the training dummy is left for pup to find instead of treats. In the meantime the pup has been worked with straight retrieve of dummy in other sessions. Then it is a simple matter to train the pup to stay by itself at the pitcher’s mound, go to the hidden dummy on signal, and retrieve it to the trainer at home base. If the pup gets that down pat “handling” in the field and/or blind retrieving on signals will be a snap. It’s a bit labor intensive but this technique is almost guaranteed to work with any pup.

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from Ontario Honker ... wrote 50 weeks 23 hours ago

That home run tip is so good I think it's worth a new car. A Cadillac Escalade would do nicely.

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from redfishunter wrote 49 weeks 5 days ago

I used the 'baseball' technique to initially train my dog hand signals, and ill still do it from time to time. A different variation though. I started at home plate, with dog at pitchers mound, and just threw the bumpers at different spots. Might need a helper to hold dog at pitchers mound if the puppy is still breaking. As he got better I would add another bumper, and another. But the trick above simply helps keep him responding well, especially when i go a real long time without doing any real drills. I've noticed the more dogs do tricks the better they are at them. I've never used treats to train my dog though, just praise. The fact that the master is pleased should be enough of a reward. Although I guess the bowl of food is a pretty nice treat.

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from rolesville rocker wrote 49 weeks 5 days ago

I use the food to teach the dog to pay attention to the hand.
"Sit", treat in hand, move hand to the right "ok", give treat. back to sit, move hand to left "ok", give treat. Get them used to moving head around with the movement of the hand. Especially helpful when introducing right back and left back. A little treat in the bowl behind, but don't get it unless they turn properly. this is an "on the deck" drill but you'll get transference to the yard if they learn to follow the hand.

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from aferraro wrote 49 weeks 5 days ago

Teach your dog to stay on a hot (but not Africa hot) sunny day by placing him in a cool, shady spot under a tree. Since he wants to stay in the shade anyway- it really makes things easier. Remember to use 10 minute sessions and give him plenty of water.

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from Ontario Honker ... wrote 49 weeks 5 days ago

Rocker, that is a good tip for getting a new pup started on the basics in the house. Their attention span works better at close range when they're still just little guys. That seems to me to be a good starter tip. Very good. I give it a Subaru Forester rating.

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from birdshooter wrote 49 weeks 4 days ago

I like to use a racquetball and racquet for training. I have my dog sit-stay while I hit the ball a good distance. Sometimes Sadie will see the ball land and go fetch. Other times she has to scent trail and sniff out the ball. On those occasions I use hand signals with lots of body language to direct Sadie. After some tries Sadie will look to me for the proper hand signal. This is her favorite game and she is learning hand signals. Racquetballs also last a lot longer than tennis balls. This works for me.

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from bowhuntercvv wrote 49 weeks 3 days ago

dip a dog in a combo of 50galons of water 1/4 small bottle of bleach and a large lemon joy to kill and repell fleas ticks and flys

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from Ontario Honker ... wrote 49 weeks 2 days ago

By the way, guys, I have seen one of these knives at the store and they are a fine tool. Doubt I'd ever use the fire starter gizzmo but it also doubles as a good sharpener for the blade. Gave it a few srokes and boy was that thing sharp. Nice how that steel tucks into knife handle. Not a very pretty thing but it seems quite utilitarian. Blade isn't real long (which is fine with me) and I can't see how anyone could ever misplace this knife. One dropped in the woods could probably be easily spotted with a satellite or spy plane.

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from dale freeman wrote 49 weeks 2 days ago

To bowhuntercvv
Now that's a good tip and sounds like it came from a real HUNTER.

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from RES1956 wrote 49 weeks 1 day ago

Repel fleas and ticks, feed them a very small pod from a clove of garlic once a month. I've heard some say that it prevents heartworms too, and it may because it is excreted via the skin and may repel mosquitos that cause the disease. (I'm not trusting it to do that yet though)

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from JustTakeMeHunting14 wrote 48 weeks 3 days ago

bang pots and pans together when you feed the dog as a puppy so when its hunting it isn't gun shy

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