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August 21, 2012

Have You Ever Had a Bad Encounter with the Dog Police?

By Chad Love

Many of you are probably familiar with the books and stories of Jim Fergus. Although primarily a novelist these days, Fergus was at one point an active hook-and-bullet freelancer (in fact, he recently wrote a piece for F&S). He also penned two very good non-fiction books: "A Hunter's Road" and "The Sporting Road." "A Hunter's Road" is his chronicle of a season spent bird hunting across the country, and "The Sporting Road" is mostly a collection and expansion of some of his better magazine pieces. Both are, I believe, out of print, but can be easily found online and well worth your time.
 
Anyway, Fergus wrote a screamingly funny piece in "The Sporting Road" I think we can all relate to in some way. Its title? "A Close Call With The Dog Cops," in which Fergus is walking his lab, Sweetzer, off-lead but at heel and in control at a city park when he's confronted by, of course, the dog police. Papers and identification for both dog and man are demanded, dog and man are threatened with incarceration, dog and man make a run for it, escape in comical manner, and all ends well.
 
And here's where we segue into the "Damn, but times have changed!" portion of the blog... Phil Bourjaily recently sent me a link to an eerily similar story about a man, a city park, his leashless dog, and the dog police. But that's where the similarity ends. Remember that "Don't Tase Me, Bro!" meme from a few years back? Go ahead and dust it off...
 
From this story in USA Today:
 
A man walking his dogs in a federal park overlooking the Pacific Ocean was hit with a stun gun and arrested by a park ranger who accused him of not tethering the animals and giving a false name, astonishing passers-by who say the reaction was excessive.

The ranger deployed the Taser stun gun on Gary Hesterberg on Sunday after he ignored the ranger's orders and tried to walk away, the National Park Service said. Hesterberg was allegedly walking his dogs without leashes in violation of the rules of Rancho Corral de Tierra, which was incorporated into the Golden Gate National Recreation Area in December.
 
Now I have no idea what (if any) the extenuating circumstances (Was the dog out of control? Was the dog calmly at heel?) were in this incident and won’t pass judgment except to say the fact that you are authorized to carry a Taser does not mean you have to use it every single time you encounter a difficult person. Silly me, I always thought that's what brains and good judgment were for. At any rate, it brings up an interesting question for gundog owners: Have you ever had a bad dog cop encounter?
 
I admit, I've had a few encounters with the dog police. Not to the comically criminal level of Fergus, nor the electrifying level of the unfortunate and probably still-smoking Mr. Hesterberg, but enough of them to realize that how my dog acts off-leash and what I'm doing with the dog off-leash goes a long, long way in determining how the doggie police act toward me, to wit:
 
Young dog chasing ducks into the park pond and then swimming after them in a bloodthirsty canine frenzy as he repeatedly ignores my commands to HERE, DAMN IT! while horrified onlookers upload the camera phone video to YouTube? Yeah, I probably deserved that one (but at least I didn’t get tased…).
 
That same dog, two years later, again off leash and technically illegal but calm and completely under control as we're doing baseball drills on an early (think crack of dawn) Sunday morning in an isolated and completely people-less part of the state park when the officer drives by? Got a free pass on that one, and I think most law/code enforcement types can (and hopefully do) recognize when they can relax the rules just a bit. I can honestly say, however, that I've never run into a true horror story of a doggie cop. Have you?

 

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from Stretch wrote 42 weeks 4 days ago

Not a horror story but when I was stationed in Huntsvill Alabama we had a bad snow storm and since we had a 4 wheel drive the wife and I took our border collie to the state park. It would be deserted due to 1 foot of snow. Not 5 minutes after arriving the park ranger shows up and gives us a lecture on why our dog must be leashed so she would not hurt anybody else that was using the park. I looked around and ours was the only car in the parking lot and we were making the only footprints in the new snow. The ranger said it was a rule and we could either obey or leave. Hope he had fun being alone for the rest of the day because we switched the signs to closed as we left the park.

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from buckhunter wrote 42 weeks 4 days ago

My dog was picked up just yesterday for not having any tags. I had to make a trip to doggy prison and pay a bit of ransom for his release. Not knowing what to expect, I found the doggy police playing with him in their office. It was so much fun, my dog did not want to leave. The doggy police gave me some pointers on updating his chip information and sent me on my way.

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from rock rat wrote 42 weeks 4 days ago

Most rules and laws are in place for a very good reason. If one disagrees with a law you can work through your democratically elected representatives to change it. But. If a police officer tells you to do something and you ignore him you just have to be ready to take the a** whuppin you might get, these days that includes tasers.

In a perfect world an officer doesn't administer justice in the form of physical punishment. In this world it happens.

To the greater question of dogs in public spaces there are very good wildlife management as well as practical issues as to why dogs are not allowed in many parks or forests. In heavily used areas there is the issue of feces. These days I see much feces left in little bags, for public servants to pick up I guess. In many states a dog chasing game or livestock may be destroyed by any officer. Hiking trails even with dog rules are usually devoid of ground nesting song birds and small mammals.

Typically the last thing a policeman or game officer wants to do is give someone a warning or fine for a dog violation. Why not make it easier on all involved and either leave the dog home, or take it to special areas designated for training of bird dogs and dog parks.

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from bassman06 wrote 42 weeks 3 days ago

My friend's dog got shot by a regular policeman at the park because he was trotting over to say hello. He's the kindest big dog you'd ever done met too! Of course, when we were on campus that big oaf still sat on me cast and all making me late for classes. He's still alive and licking!

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from bassman06 wrote 42 weeks 3 days ago

Also buck, you made me have my milk come out of my nose!!

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from Ontario Honker ... wrote 42 weeks 2 days ago

I regularly walk my three dogs (two labs and French brittany) off leash and at heal while in town. I usually have the leashes with me in case things get too busy. The animal control guy was out scraping up a road killed cat when he spotted me. He was a self-pontificating arse and really tried to jack me up claiming the dogs were out in the road. At that point I drew the line. And very sternly. "I may be wrong in the eyes of the law but there is no need for you to lie to justify your actions. Just give me the gawdam tickets if you want to and leave it at that." He shut up and dropped it. He also insisted that I get city licenses for the dogs and I simply told him it wouldn't make any difference because I refused to have those stupid oversized tags hanging from my dogs necks. They are noisy and they get caught in stuff, particularly my chain link fence (almost lost our previous brown lab). I pointed out that the ID strips safely rivitted to their collars provide all the information necessary to get them safely returned (as opposed to the stupid city tags which only have the dog's registration number and phone for the pound). Again, I told him to go ahead and give me a citation and we could discuss the utility and safety issues before a city judge. That was the end of that discussion.

As to dogs chasing the ducks and geese in city park: here they have been hiring a gal from outside town with a couple of border collies specifically for the purpose of harrassing the geese. It's so bad here that I believe the city authorities would give my dogs a medal if I'd let them chase the birds. Our city beaches are usually closed most of the summer due to comtamination from bird crap.

I really cannot argue with the city's policy of insisting that dogs be on leash in the parks ... at least the parks that are congested. We have several large green space areas in town that aren't heavily used and most of us let our dogs run out there (under control of course). However, in the more heavily used parks things would be quite difficult if everybody's dog was off leash. And I can appreciate that it is difficult for folks to see others with their dogs off leash and not be able to let their own useless uncontrollable mutts run around. My dogs are only off leash in the beach parks while they are swimming. If it's not too busy, I'll let them run off leash from the parking lot to the beach to go swimming and back to the car when we're done. The police are usually about the area and they haven't said anything yet.

Having worked for the US Park Service for most of thirty years I will be the first to say that "brains and good judgment" are definitely in short order in that branch of the government! I recall the flap that occurred in Alaska when I refused to become involved in a full blown haz-mat response to an outboard motor with a blown oil line. The boat was parked in a veritable blind alley full of grizzly bears (24/7!!) and the motor's crank case only held ONE QUART OF OIL!! Like I should risk my life to erect encirclement pontoons and throw out absorbing diapers for a quart of oil! C'mon people! Got written up for that one. Seven days later and the boat was still sitting at the landing leaking oil. Why didn't they just trailer it and take it to the shop? Well, if they'd done that the head of law enforcement there would not have been able to add haz-mat response experience to her resume. Yep, the above story of the taser slinging ranger doesn't surprise me at all. I do hope the media exposure leads to some changes but I'm not very optimistic. It hasn't in the past.

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from wisc14 wrote 42 weeks 3 hours ago

its nice to live in the country in wisconsin. i take my dog for walks and training to the local county forest every day. noboby cares if dogs are off leash as long as you can call the dog back to you. i have had people stop their biking or running to pe and play with my dog.

i have had one bad experience. on a trail that goes around a trout lake in the northern highland state forest i had a lady go nuts because my dog was on the trail. my dog was on a leash and was wet and i actually carried the dog passed them and still got yelled at by her. there is a small "no pets" sign at the trailhead (which i knew about). however i have been fishing the lake and hiking the trail for well over 10 years. i have never been yelled at for having a dog and have seen tons of people with dogs back there. every year i guy would trout fish off shore and let his labs swim around.

it kind of ticks me off dogs aren't allowed on the trail. especially since it is state forest paid for by people who hunt and fish. dogs should be allowed on all public pieces of hunting land in my opinion

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from RES1956 wrote 41 weeks 5 days ago

I am not opposed to leash laws, cause everybody else's hounds are not under control as well as mine are. Even then you never know, because they do have four legs and fur, and are subject to 'crazy' occasionally.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 41 weeks 4 days ago

I keep a handgun handy when running my dawgs in the event some gangbanger has an overzealous pit bull on the loose. 1st one for the pit bull, second one for the gangbanger....

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from jimfergus398 wrote 38 weeks 1 day ago

Hey Chad,
Thanks for the plug. Just to correct one thing you mentioned...Both my sporting books "A Hunter's Road" and "The Sporting Road" are still in print, available from Amazon and other booksellers.

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from PutnamValleyBoy wrote 37 weeks 2 days ago

My labs, 14-year-old Bud and two-year-old Buster, are known as "The Usual Suspects" down at the county. They're good boys, but CHASING the animal control truck, they thought that was a good idea?

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from bassman06 wrote 42 weeks 3 days ago

My friend's dog got shot by a regular policeman at the park because he was trotting over to say hello. He's the kindest big dog you'd ever done met too! Of course, when we were on campus that big oaf still sat on me cast and all making me late for classes. He's still alive and licking!

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 41 weeks 4 days ago

I keep a handgun handy when running my dawgs in the event some gangbanger has an overzealous pit bull on the loose. 1st one for the pit bull, second one for the gangbanger....

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from Ontario Honker ... wrote 42 weeks 2 days ago

I regularly walk my three dogs (two labs and French brittany) off leash and at heal while in town. I usually have the leashes with me in case things get too busy. The animal control guy was out scraping up a road killed cat when he spotted me. He was a self-pontificating arse and really tried to jack me up claiming the dogs were out in the road. At that point I drew the line. And very sternly. "I may be wrong in the eyes of the law but there is no need for you to lie to justify your actions. Just give me the gawdam tickets if you want to and leave it at that." He shut up and dropped it. He also insisted that I get city licenses for the dogs and I simply told him it wouldn't make any difference because I refused to have those stupid oversized tags hanging from my dogs necks. They are noisy and they get caught in stuff, particularly my chain link fence (almost lost our previous brown lab). I pointed out that the ID strips safely rivitted to their collars provide all the information necessary to get them safely returned (as opposed to the stupid city tags which only have the dog's registration number and phone for the pound). Again, I told him to go ahead and give me a citation and we could discuss the utility and safety issues before a city judge. That was the end of that discussion.

As to dogs chasing the ducks and geese in city park: here they have been hiring a gal from outside town with a couple of border collies specifically for the purpose of harrassing the geese. It's so bad here that I believe the city authorities would give my dogs a medal if I'd let them chase the birds. Our city beaches are usually closed most of the summer due to comtamination from bird crap.

I really cannot argue with the city's policy of insisting that dogs be on leash in the parks ... at least the parks that are congested. We have several large green space areas in town that aren't heavily used and most of us let our dogs run out there (under control of course). However, in the more heavily used parks things would be quite difficult if everybody's dog was off leash. And I can appreciate that it is difficult for folks to see others with their dogs off leash and not be able to let their own useless uncontrollable mutts run around. My dogs are only off leash in the beach parks while they are swimming. If it's not too busy, I'll let them run off leash from the parking lot to the beach to go swimming and back to the car when we're done. The police are usually about the area and they haven't said anything yet.

Having worked for the US Park Service for most of thirty years I will be the first to say that "brains and good judgment" are definitely in short order in that branch of the government! I recall the flap that occurred in Alaska when I refused to become involved in a full blown haz-mat response to an outboard motor with a blown oil line. The boat was parked in a veritable blind alley full of grizzly bears (24/7!!) and the motor's crank case only held ONE QUART OF OIL!! Like I should risk my life to erect encirclement pontoons and throw out absorbing diapers for a quart of oil! C'mon people! Got written up for that one. Seven days later and the boat was still sitting at the landing leaking oil. Why didn't they just trailer it and take it to the shop? Well, if they'd done that the head of law enforcement there would not have been able to add haz-mat response experience to her resume. Yep, the above story of the taser slinging ranger doesn't surprise me at all. I do hope the media exposure leads to some changes but I'm not very optimistic. It hasn't in the past.

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from Stretch wrote 42 weeks 4 days ago

Not a horror story but when I was stationed in Huntsvill Alabama we had a bad snow storm and since we had a 4 wheel drive the wife and I took our border collie to the state park. It would be deserted due to 1 foot of snow. Not 5 minutes after arriving the park ranger shows up and gives us a lecture on why our dog must be leashed so she would not hurt anybody else that was using the park. I looked around and ours was the only car in the parking lot and we were making the only footprints in the new snow. The ranger said it was a rule and we could either obey or leave. Hope he had fun being alone for the rest of the day because we switched the signs to closed as we left the park.

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from buckhunter wrote 42 weeks 4 days ago

My dog was picked up just yesterday for not having any tags. I had to make a trip to doggy prison and pay a bit of ransom for his release. Not knowing what to expect, I found the doggy police playing with him in their office. It was so much fun, my dog did not want to leave. The doggy police gave me some pointers on updating his chip information and sent me on my way.

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from bassman06 wrote 42 weeks 3 days ago

Also buck, you made me have my milk come out of my nose!!

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from wisc14 wrote 42 weeks 3 hours ago

its nice to live in the country in wisconsin. i take my dog for walks and training to the local county forest every day. noboby cares if dogs are off leash as long as you can call the dog back to you. i have had people stop their biking or running to pe and play with my dog.

i have had one bad experience. on a trail that goes around a trout lake in the northern highland state forest i had a lady go nuts because my dog was on the trail. my dog was on a leash and was wet and i actually carried the dog passed them and still got yelled at by her. there is a small "no pets" sign at the trailhead (which i knew about). however i have been fishing the lake and hiking the trail for well over 10 years. i have never been yelled at for having a dog and have seen tons of people with dogs back there. every year i guy would trout fish off shore and let his labs swim around.

it kind of ticks me off dogs aren't allowed on the trail. especially since it is state forest paid for by people who hunt and fish. dogs should be allowed on all public pieces of hunting land in my opinion

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from RES1956 wrote 41 weeks 5 days ago

I am not opposed to leash laws, cause everybody else's hounds are not under control as well as mine are. Even then you never know, because they do have four legs and fur, and are subject to 'crazy' occasionally.

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from jimfergus398 wrote 38 weeks 1 day ago

Hey Chad,
Thanks for the plug. Just to correct one thing you mentioned...Both my sporting books "A Hunter's Road" and "The Sporting Road" are still in print, available from Amazon and other booksellers.

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from PutnamValleyBoy wrote 37 weeks 2 days ago

My labs, 14-year-old Bud and two-year-old Buster, are known as "The Usual Suspects" down at the county. They're good boys, but CHASING the animal control truck, they thought that was a good idea?

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from rock rat wrote 42 weeks 4 days ago

Most rules and laws are in place for a very good reason. If one disagrees with a law you can work through your democratically elected representatives to change it. But. If a police officer tells you to do something and you ignore him you just have to be ready to take the a** whuppin you might get, these days that includes tasers.

In a perfect world an officer doesn't administer justice in the form of physical punishment. In this world it happens.

To the greater question of dogs in public spaces there are very good wildlife management as well as practical issues as to why dogs are not allowed in many parks or forests. In heavily used areas there is the issue of feces. These days I see much feces left in little bags, for public servants to pick up I guess. In many states a dog chasing game or livestock may be destroyed by any officer. Hiking trails even with dog rules are usually devoid of ground nesting song birds and small mammals.

Typically the last thing a policeman or game officer wants to do is give someone a warning or fine for a dog violation. Why not make it easier on all involved and either leave the dog home, or take it to special areas designated for training of bird dogs and dog parks.

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