


July 27, 2010
Hurteau: Test a New Broadhead for Free
By Dave Hurteau
Who says you can’t get something for nothing? Okay, a lot of people say that and are pretty much always right. But other than shipping and handling, you can get a brand new Carbon Express F-15 fixed-blade or expandable broadhead to check out for zip, zero, nada.
Working on the cutting-edge principal that two are better than one, Carbon Express has fitted the F-15 with dual, side-by-side cutting blades, which if you apply the right sort of math yields wound channels that are up to “250 percent larger and more devastating.”
From the company’s press release:
Carbon Express®, a leader in arrow technology and innovation, announces that starting July16th they will be giving away $50,000 worth of F-15TM Dual Blade broadheads….
“We are so confident in our new F-15™ were giving consumer a try for free. This is the perfect chance for them to get an incredible broadhead for just the cost of shipping and handling” stated Mike Snyder, the company’s Director of Marketing.
To test fly the F-15TM fixed blade or expandable, go to www.f15dualblade.com and order. There is a $4.95 shipping and handling, which is a great value when the 3 pack goes for approximately $39.99 at retail.
The F-15™ is the only broadhead with dual, side-by-side cutting blades…[which create] a wound chunk versus a slice, [producing] a massive exit wound for greater blood loss, a better blood trail and ultimately, a faster kill.
Comments (23)
Thanks for the info! I have one on the way. Can't wait to try it.
I laughed out load when I saw these broadheads in a bass pro catalog. This is just a marketing hype wet dream. I can just imagine the marketing guys sitting around a table trying to come up with the latest greatest broadhead design and the thought of making a broadhead that looks like the tail on a F-15 strike eagle crosses their mind. Give me a break. This is just lame. The least they could have done is to use a plane that is still in production like the F-18 superhornet or the F-22 raptor.
I am almost always willing to try new archery products, and at 4.95 this broadhead at least looks neat. Mines on the way.
Mine's on the way. I think it's a decent marketing ploy. And if the broadhead performs well, it's a damn fine marketing ploy. I'm happy to take advantage.
Jay, no one is holding an F-15 to your head to order these.
Sorry, my 3 blade Muzzys have never let me down, dropped everything I've ever hit with them within 30 yards so why switch to something fancy now??
Well, there are always those that will buy the latest and greatest gadget thinking this will give them the edge. I think I'll come up a new broadhead that has blades that rotate once fired and cuts thru game like a drill bit. I'll call em the AH-64D (Apache Longbow).
Whomever gave me a minus one explain to me this:
The 2 blades together are shaped like a f-15 tail. they can't be more than 1 centimenter apart and are probably closer to a half a centimeter. The width of the 2 blades are much shorter than the single blade. How will two smaller blades in such close proximity to each other create a larger wound chanel than a typical 4 blade. The engineering doesn't make sense; thats why most broadheads have 2, 3 or 4 blades. More blades with a smaller cutting diameter just isn't a move forward.
I use Muzzy fixed blade. I have always wanted to try expandables but couldn't justify the cost when I was already happy with my Muzzy heads. Hell, for $5 I can even get the wife to sign off on that...hopefully, cause they're on the way!
Jay- For the record I didn't give you a -1.. I never have for someone expressing their opinion and I never will.
2nd, I think you might be surprised at the specs of the blade sizes. Pay close attention to the large blade. If you look at how far beyond the width of the shaft the blade protrudes, you will notice the 2 blades seem to be raised above the level of the shaft about the same amount. It's somewhat of an optical illusion because the two parallel blades are coming up out towards us in the picture.
3rd, I'm not assuming these broadheads are going to outperform every other broadhead known to man, but if you calculate the linear measurement of blade surface as it would create a wound (blade measurement perpendicular to arrow flight), the extra 2 blades would provide more cut surfaces to bleed from. Yes the diameter of the cut wound is important, but the diameter is simply linear measurement of each blade added to the diameter of the center puncturing tip. If you add blades, you get more cut surface. In traditional broadheads, the only way to add cutting surface is to increase the overall diameter because all blades are affixed to a center axis. The only problem is the larger the diameter, the more space an arrow takes up, and the more cumbersome the arrow becomes. Adding blade surface inside the overall diameter of a broadhead seems to make perfect sense to me. Just my two cents.
Personally, I think G5 designed these blades just to prove that they can make a very complex blade with MIM technology. I think it is unnecessary and an Edsel-like mistake. Most bow hunters don't want complex - they want something that works. How do you sharpen these things? Are they giving them away free because they are not selling?
Took G5 quite a bit of time to respond to hunters that wanted their blades super sharp - the originals just weren't (I got a lame excuse when I contacted them way back when). I admire the technology but they got the material wrong. Perhaps another lesson to bank on.
That thing looks to Rube Goldberg for me. This old timer loves Rage 2 blade mechanical heads and sticking with them 'til something better comes along.
I have mixed emotions. First, anything that produces a quicker kill with archery tackle I am all for. We owe it to the animals to stay on top of technology to create quick humane kills. It the new heads work... great.
Second, through this offer the company will amass a list of thousands of names and addresses of hunters which they will then sell to different companies for a fee. This company will make its initial investment back by selling this list, have much publicity and you should expect an increase in junk mail or spam but you do have 3 new broadheads It's marketing 101 and a win win for all.
I just ordered mine. If I get them I will test them on groundhogs or other small game before trusting them to my deer hunting.
Seeing this I can't help but think of shaving razors - "But ours have SIX blades!!"
buckhunter I’m pretty sure you get just (1) broadhead to test out not three unfortunately, have to be careful shooting at those groundhogs. But I agree with you about the mailing list....
To those of you who have ordered (especially the fixed blade) let us know how durable the blades seem. I know with my luck I would damage my broadhead target shooting before I even got a chance to try it on a deer or if I did hit a deer, is the broadhead a one and done break apart job or is there a good chance it would hold up to be used a 2nd time?
mine was shipped a few hours ago,one thing they don't mention is its weight, i would assume its at least 100 gr.i just hope it flies as true as its name sake. it will have to be good for me to give up my THUNDERHEADS.
I cant see this broadhead surviveing any more than one shot thru a deer, unless it missed all the bones and ribs.I am also sticking with my muzzy three blades.
Thanks for the info. Ordered mine up this afternoon and am interested to see how it works...guess I won't really know until I shoot a deer. But I'm optimistic and have never had expandable blades so this is a great opportunity to try one out. Thanks
Received my broadhead a couple days ago. It looks sturdy enough. We will see.
Just got mine today. was really loud flying through the air
How much does it cost to kill a deer? I am averaging about 1200 dollars roughly including gear, truck, gas, and lease, broadheads, guns, etc. Slowly my cost average is shrinking.
Read this kinda late. Guess they dont have this deal going on anymore. I didnt see it on the site
Just wondering if anyone actually tried them and if they did how well did they work?
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Jay- For the record I didn't give you a -1.. I never have for someone expressing their opinion and I never will.
2nd, I think you might be surprised at the specs of the blade sizes. Pay close attention to the large blade. If you look at how far beyond the width of the shaft the blade protrudes, you will notice the 2 blades seem to be raised above the level of the shaft about the same amount. It's somewhat of an optical illusion because the two parallel blades are coming up out towards us in the picture.
3rd, I'm not assuming these broadheads are going to outperform every other broadhead known to man, but if you calculate the linear measurement of blade surface as it would create a wound (blade measurement perpendicular to arrow flight), the extra 2 blades would provide more cut surfaces to bleed from. Yes the diameter of the cut wound is important, but the diameter is simply linear measurement of each blade added to the diameter of the center puncturing tip. If you add blades, you get more cut surface. In traditional broadheads, the only way to add cutting surface is to increase the overall diameter because all blades are affixed to a center axis. The only problem is the larger the diameter, the more space an arrow takes up, and the more cumbersome the arrow becomes. Adding blade surface inside the overall diameter of a broadhead seems to make perfect sense to me. Just my two cents.
Whomever gave me a minus one explain to me this:
The 2 blades together are shaped like a f-15 tail. they can't be more than 1 centimenter apart and are probably closer to a half a centimeter. The width of the 2 blades are much shorter than the single blade. How will two smaller blades in such close proximity to each other create a larger wound chanel than a typical 4 blade. The engineering doesn't make sense; thats why most broadheads have 2, 3 or 4 blades. More blades with a smaller cutting diameter just isn't a move forward.
Thanks for the info! I have one on the way. Can't wait to try it.
I am almost always willing to try new archery products, and at 4.95 this broadhead at least looks neat. Mines on the way.
Mine's on the way. I think it's a decent marketing ploy. And if the broadhead performs well, it's a damn fine marketing ploy. I'm happy to take advantage.
Jay, no one is holding an F-15 to your head to order these.
Sorry, my 3 blade Muzzys have never let me down, dropped everything I've ever hit with them within 30 yards so why switch to something fancy now??
Well, there are always those that will buy the latest and greatest gadget thinking this will give them the edge. I think I'll come up a new broadhead that has blades that rotate once fired and cuts thru game like a drill bit. I'll call em the AH-64D (Apache Longbow).
I use Muzzy fixed blade. I have always wanted to try expandables but couldn't justify the cost when I was already happy with my Muzzy heads. Hell, for $5 I can even get the wife to sign off on that...hopefully, cause they're on the way!
I cant see this broadhead surviveing any more than one shot thru a deer, unless it missed all the bones and ribs.I am also sticking with my muzzy three blades.
I laughed out load when I saw these broadheads in a bass pro catalog. This is just a marketing hype wet dream. I can just imagine the marketing guys sitting around a table trying to come up with the latest greatest broadhead design and the thought of making a broadhead that looks like the tail on a F-15 strike eagle crosses their mind. Give me a break. This is just lame. The least they could have done is to use a plane that is still in production like the F-18 superhornet or the F-22 raptor.
Personally, I think G5 designed these blades just to prove that they can make a very complex blade with MIM technology. I think it is unnecessary and an Edsel-like mistake. Most bow hunters don't want complex - they want something that works. How do you sharpen these things? Are they giving them away free because they are not selling?
Took G5 quite a bit of time to respond to hunters that wanted their blades super sharp - the originals just weren't (I got a lame excuse when I contacted them way back when). I admire the technology but they got the material wrong. Perhaps another lesson to bank on.
That thing looks to Rube Goldberg for me. This old timer loves Rage 2 blade mechanical heads and sticking with them 'til something better comes along.
I have mixed emotions. First, anything that produces a quicker kill with archery tackle I am all for. We owe it to the animals to stay on top of technology to create quick humane kills. It the new heads work... great.
Second, through this offer the company will amass a list of thousands of names and addresses of hunters which they will then sell to different companies for a fee. This company will make its initial investment back by selling this list, have much publicity and you should expect an increase in junk mail or spam but you do have 3 new broadheads It's marketing 101 and a win win for all.
I just ordered mine. If I get them I will test them on groundhogs or other small game before trusting them to my deer hunting.
Seeing this I can't help but think of shaving razors - "But ours have SIX blades!!"
buckhunter I’m pretty sure you get just (1) broadhead to test out not three unfortunately, have to be careful shooting at those groundhogs. But I agree with you about the mailing list....
To those of you who have ordered (especially the fixed blade) let us know how durable the blades seem. I know with my luck I would damage my broadhead target shooting before I even got a chance to try it on a deer or if I did hit a deer, is the broadhead a one and done break apart job or is there a good chance it would hold up to be used a 2nd time?
mine was shipped a few hours ago,one thing they don't mention is its weight, i would assume its at least 100 gr.i just hope it flies as true as its name sake. it will have to be good for me to give up my THUNDERHEADS.
Thanks for the info. Ordered mine up this afternoon and am interested to see how it works...guess I won't really know until I shoot a deer. But I'm optimistic and have never had expandable blades so this is a great opportunity to try one out. Thanks
Received my broadhead a couple days ago. It looks sturdy enough. We will see.
Just got mine today. was really loud flying through the air
How much does it cost to kill a deer? I am averaging about 1200 dollars roughly including gear, truck, gas, and lease, broadheads, guns, etc. Slowly my cost average is shrinking.
Read this kinda late. Guess they dont have this deal going on anymore. I didnt see it on the site
Just wondering if anyone actually tried them and if they did how well did they work?
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