


March 05, 2009
Michigan Man Gives Up Hunting Over “Baby”—The Pet Deer
By Dave Hurteau
From AOL News and WSJV-TV:
George Nolan used to be an avid deer hunter. But he has given it up, all because of Baby.
The Nolan family has opened their Jones, Mich., home to a wild deer they call Baby. They found her last spring, a newborn fawn that had apparently been abandoned by her mother . . .
Since the Nolans run a wildlife rescue center, they thought nothing about taking her in.
Baby lives in the wild, but she likes to come to the Nolans for visits. . . .
Be sure to check out the video.
Comments (29)
Fawns get abandoned by their mother a lot (does are hunted in case people didn't know that). It's part of the natural cycle of things for a little abandoned fawn that makes it through the first few years could end up being a very cautious, hard-to-get bruiser someday.
Nate
There's no accounting for taste.
Well, on second thought, maybe there is. Was I to take in a pet deer, I'd be thinking of something like venison veal.
o come now you wouldn't do that to a fawn would you?
Nate
i dont see how you could give up hunting because of that.
There are people who just don't want to hunt anymore. That's certainly their perogative and I wish him the best.
As far as killing fawns, it happens everday during hunting season. I won't shoot a fawn, buck or doe, but in Indiana this past season 32,000 people disagreed and that accounts for 26% of the deer harvest.
It's legal and that too, is certainly their perogative.
Jim
If you name a critter "Baby" and treat it like a pet, you are letting yourself in for future issues unless you are willing to make some sort of lifetime commitment to the animal. I have known a blue haired lady with a little yapping dog named "Baby" (her substitute child). Do that with a critter likely to turn up as venison and yer just playin' to Disney...
"o come now you wouldn't do that to a fawn would you?"
If the thing stepped willingly into my house I'd consider it a divine gift of food straight from the Summerlands.
I'll assume he was never in 4H.
We had some folks around here that 'adopted' a fawn. During hunting season they would take bright orange paint and write Tame on each side of the deer. Don't know what happened to that critter but I'd be embarrassed to check a deer in with that written on it.
Better to shoot the fawn than the doe mother. Kill the mother and the fawn dies, kill the fawn and the doe lives to breed again.
I sort of see where this guy is coming from but hunters are crucial to preserving sustainable wildlife numbers. I am an animal lover but also a hunter. I think that you have to find a balance in the middle.
oh boo hoo, boo hoo. fawns die every year from all causes, hunting and natural. get over it.
it nice that some people care like that, and even better that they let it come and go as it pleases, for me I wouldn't be able to give up hunting though (I have a little problem) IT CALL BACKSTRAP FEVER!!!!!
To each their own!!! I didn't think it was legal in Mich. to have a fawn unless you are licensed through the DNR.
Jim, Ish and Sarg,
I just posted pics of the buck skull Jill found today.
Fatten him up and give him the right nutrition. Once he becomes a monster buck, put it to him. If he is a record book buck, he is considered free ranging and not fenced in.
Yummy...like Veal. I personally don't shoot fawns or yearlings, but i don't have a problem with those who do. As a hunter i'm an animal lover and i would take in a deer like this to save it's life maybe. I would not consider quitting hunting though. I might look at ways my new pet could be used to help me as a hunter...Live decoy? that'd be neat. Or fresh, free deer scents.
aint that what the antis allways say let nature take care of it,,i knew where there was a fawn with spots in the end of november no higher then my knees, and i watched it several times running around where i hunt at,i also watched it run up to a doe and start sucking on it and the doe just stood there and let it,and the doe had its own fawns that already lost there spots,,i had a pet coyote ,,just cuz i had that didnt mean i was gonna quit hunting coyotes... do like people have done here put a red ribbon around its neck since its tame and let it run around,,,,there was a guy here that had a tame deer,and the game and fish took it and turned it loose right in a place that gets hunted just as hard as any where,they dint care if it was tame or got shot,either way i wouldnt quit hunting just because of that
I'm not going to think any less of him for doing so. It's his decision and if he does not want to hunt that just means more deer for the rest of us
I din´t have idea there were places wher you could hunt fawns. I suppose is up to you to do it if allowed. I personnally wouldn´t, and don´t even need to think about it since I can´t shoot fawns or does here in Mexico.
dave the bowhunter, how do a pet coyote behave? Does it get along with dogs?
visit www.mexicoarmado.com
Give up hunting? ... ? give up?
Taking a deer in as a pet is sentencing him to death. One deer season baby is going to spot a hunter in the woods probably before the hunter spots baby and walk right up to a rude surprise.
COME ON THIS HAS TO BE A JOKE. he abviously was never a true hunter
peter,
Why doesn't your smart ass mouth take a break? Go back to your basement room.
Ricardo, I don't think coyote or wolf pups will ever grow up with the dog and get along. The dog will like it but the wild animal in the others will take over. And it's not nice. I've seen it first hand.
Jim in Mo, That is quite possibly the most hilarious thing I have ever heard. Painted it orange? I must admit if that thing walked by my stand I think I would shoot it just so I could have a picture of it.
So, did they give up hunting, or eating "legal" meat killed by someone else?
This is NOT a pet animal, but a wild animal acting tame at times!
How did I miss this one?
Here in Kentucky, 'bout thirty years ago, a rural family took in an "abandoned" fawn and kept it in a barn until September, and would tie it up outside next to the barn.
The article was in the Kentucky Post on a Saturday morning.
As fate would have it, that Saturday was opening day gun season. I was supposed to meet a buddy in the woods at a pre-arranged spot.
I got there a little early and waited for him.I noticed movement 75 yards away and realized it was my buddy. I was laying next to an oak tree and didn't want to startle him.
He sat next to a tree, and took out a smoke and lit it. As he was smoking, I noticed him flinch, and looked in the direction he had just came from. It was a doe, at least I couldn't see any antlers, and it walked right up to him while he was smoking a cigarette.
I couldn't believe my eyes, it was licking his gun. Then, the gentle animal moved closer to my buddys face and immediately jumped back. Well, that' was my reaction to cigarette smoke.
The deer smelled the air, and moved in closer and started licking his gun again, and rubbing his head on the scope of the gun. This was certainly out of the ordinary, I couldn't comprehend this at all.
After awhile, the deer got bored,as my buddy began to shoo it away.When he wasn't lookin' in my direction,I stood up and gave a bird call. Boy, was he glad to see me.
I told him I didn't believe his story, when he began to show me the deers dried saliva on the barrel of the gun. I asked why the doe rubbed her head on his scope,his rely,"it wasn't a doe, but a button buck and he was rubbing his nubs on the scope."
I asked,"why did the button buck jump backwards, his reply,"he burned his whiskers on the cigarette." I suggested this deer must be tame or was sick even though it appeared healthy.
When I got home that night, I read the Saturday, Kentucky Post, and there in black and white, sat a man at a kitchen table, smoking a cigarette, with the same deer.
I was stunned.
The next day a new, young hunter, was joining our huntin' party, and we told him about the tame deer, and not to shoot it, as it was the first of two doe days.
Well, as fate would have it, the young hunter tagged our dear, deer friend. I just hope that Gearge Nolan knows what he is doing ...
In my own assessment, I think that perhaps George, and the "abandoned" deer, both need to be out doors. He isn't doing that fawn any favors ... except for some new-found entertainment for his own pleasure, in the name of rescue and goodness.
I, 150 times over, totally disagree with this!!
Animals are meant to be in the wild. Things happen in nature that cause young to have to "sink or swim" so to speak, but thats natures way! Who are we to step in and decide different? I understand that in some circumstances where the mother may have been hit by a car or maybe killed another way. But nature has a way to sort things out.
Mother Nature is the only one who should decide what happens to animals. Striping them from what they already know and trying to chnage them into some sort of house pet is just wrong. Its almost cruel!
I found that in my area that if you feed year round you see more deer (big bucks) than if you would not feed at all. I have neihbors that feed from oct. till jan. , and only see the 1/2 to 2yr bucks . The only advantage that we have to help us is that we had very little rain fall this year . I have 3 protien feeders and 2 corn feeders that I need to keep up with and by doing this the deer population thrives and right the does get everything that they need for this years crop . I'm sorry if people think that "baiting" should be outlawed , but in my area it not only helps the population to be healthier but also to see more than just the very young animals . I do not own alot of land , but where i do hunt I try to improve the animals that I do happen to see, and if it takes me to feed year round so be it!!!!!!!!!!!!
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"o come now you wouldn't do that to a fawn would you?"
If the thing stepped willingly into my house I'd consider it a divine gift of food straight from the Summerlands.
it nice that some people care like that, and even better that they let it come and go as it pleases, for me I wouldn't be able to give up hunting though (I have a little problem) IT CALL BACKSTRAP FEVER!!!!!
Yummy...like Veal. I personally don't shoot fawns or yearlings, but i don't have a problem with those who do. As a hunter i'm an animal lover and i would take in a deer like this to save it's life maybe. I would not consider quitting hunting though. I might look at ways my new pet could be used to help me as a hunter...Live decoy? that'd be neat. Or fresh, free deer scents.
Taking a deer in as a pet is sentencing him to death. One deer season baby is going to spot a hunter in the woods probably before the hunter spots baby and walk right up to a rude surprise.
There's no accounting for taste.
Well, on second thought, maybe there is. Was I to take in a pet deer, I'd be thinking of something like venison veal.
i dont see how you could give up hunting because of that.
There are people who just don't want to hunt anymore. That's certainly their perogative and I wish him the best.
As far as killing fawns, it happens everday during hunting season. I won't shoot a fawn, buck or doe, but in Indiana this past season 32,000 people disagreed and that accounts for 26% of the deer harvest.
It's legal and that too, is certainly their perogative.
Jim
If you name a critter "Baby" and treat it like a pet, you are letting yourself in for future issues unless you are willing to make some sort of lifetime commitment to the animal. I have known a blue haired lady with a little yapping dog named "Baby" (her substitute child). Do that with a critter likely to turn up as venison and yer just playin' to Disney...
I'll assume he was never in 4H.
We had some folks around here that 'adopted' a fawn. During hunting season they would take bright orange paint and write Tame on each side of the deer. Don't know what happened to that critter but I'd be embarrassed to check a deer in with that written on it.
I sort of see where this guy is coming from but hunters are crucial to preserving sustainable wildlife numbers. I am an animal lover but also a hunter. I think that you have to find a balance in the middle.
oh boo hoo, boo hoo. fawns die every year from all causes, hunting and natural. get over it.
To each their own!!! I didn't think it was legal in Mich. to have a fawn unless you are licensed through the DNR.
Jim, Ish and Sarg,
I just posted pics of the buck skull Jill found today.
Fatten him up and give him the right nutrition. Once he becomes a monster buck, put it to him. If he is a record book buck, he is considered free ranging and not fenced in.
aint that what the antis allways say let nature take care of it,,i knew where there was a fawn with spots in the end of november no higher then my knees, and i watched it several times running around where i hunt at,i also watched it run up to a doe and start sucking on it and the doe just stood there and let it,and the doe had its own fawns that already lost there spots,,i had a pet coyote ,,just cuz i had that didnt mean i was gonna quit hunting coyotes... do like people have done here put a red ribbon around its neck since its tame and let it run around,,,,there was a guy here that had a tame deer,and the game and fish took it and turned it loose right in a place that gets hunted just as hard as any where,they dint care if it was tame or got shot,either way i wouldnt quit hunting just because of that
I din´t have idea there were places wher you could hunt fawns. I suppose is up to you to do it if allowed. I personnally wouldn´t, and don´t even need to think about it since I can´t shoot fawns or does here in Mexico.
dave the bowhunter, how do a pet coyote behave? Does it get along with dogs?
visit www.mexicoarmado.com
Give up hunting? ... ? give up?
COME ON THIS HAS TO BE A JOKE. he abviously was never a true hunter
peter,
Why doesn't your smart ass mouth take a break? Go back to your basement room.
Ricardo, I don't think coyote or wolf pups will ever grow up with the dog and get along. The dog will like it but the wild animal in the others will take over. And it's not nice. I've seen it first hand.
Jim in Mo, That is quite possibly the most hilarious thing I have ever heard. Painted it orange? I must admit if that thing walked by my stand I think I would shoot it just so I could have a picture of it.
So, did they give up hunting, or eating "legal" meat killed by someone else?
This is NOT a pet animal, but a wild animal acting tame at times!
How did I miss this one?
Here in Kentucky, 'bout thirty years ago, a rural family took in an "abandoned" fawn and kept it in a barn until September, and would tie it up outside next to the barn.
The article was in the Kentucky Post on a Saturday morning.
As fate would have it, that Saturday was opening day gun season. I was supposed to meet a buddy in the woods at a pre-arranged spot.
I got there a little early and waited for him.I noticed movement 75 yards away and realized it was my buddy. I was laying next to an oak tree and didn't want to startle him.
He sat next to a tree, and took out a smoke and lit it. As he was smoking, I noticed him flinch, and looked in the direction he had just came from. It was a doe, at least I couldn't see any antlers, and it walked right up to him while he was smoking a cigarette.
I couldn't believe my eyes, it was licking his gun. Then, the gentle animal moved closer to my buddys face and immediately jumped back. Well, that' was my reaction to cigarette smoke.
The deer smelled the air, and moved in closer and started licking his gun again, and rubbing his head on the scope of the gun. This was certainly out of the ordinary, I couldn't comprehend this at all.
After awhile, the deer got bored,as my buddy began to shoo it away.When he wasn't lookin' in my direction,I stood up and gave a bird call. Boy, was he glad to see me.
I told him I didn't believe his story, when he began to show me the deers dried saliva on the barrel of the gun. I asked why the doe rubbed her head on his scope,his rely,"it wasn't a doe, but a button buck and he was rubbing his nubs on the scope."
I asked,"why did the button buck jump backwards, his reply,"he burned his whiskers on the cigarette." I suggested this deer must be tame or was sick even though it appeared healthy.
When I got home that night, I read the Saturday, Kentucky Post, and there in black and white, sat a man at a kitchen table, smoking a cigarette, with the same deer.
I was stunned.
The next day a new, young hunter, was joining our huntin' party, and we told him about the tame deer, and not to shoot it, as it was the first of two doe days.
Well, as fate would have it, the young hunter tagged our dear, deer friend. I just hope that Gearge Nolan knows what he is doing ...
In my own assessment, I think that perhaps George, and the "abandoned" deer, both need to be out doors. He isn't doing that fawn any favors ... except for some new-found entertainment for his own pleasure, in the name of rescue and goodness.
I, 150 times over, totally disagree with this!!
Animals are meant to be in the wild. Things happen in nature that cause young to have to "sink or swim" so to speak, but thats natures way! Who are we to step in and decide different? I understand that in some circumstances where the mother may have been hit by a car or maybe killed another way. But nature has a way to sort things out.
Mother Nature is the only one who should decide what happens to animals. Striping them from what they already know and trying to chnage them into some sort of house pet is just wrong. Its almost cruel!
I found that in my area that if you feed year round you see more deer (big bucks) than if you would not feed at all. I have neihbors that feed from oct. till jan. , and only see the 1/2 to 2yr bucks . The only advantage that we have to help us is that we had very little rain fall this year . I have 3 protien feeders and 2 corn feeders that I need to keep up with and by doing this the deer population thrives and right the does get everything that they need for this years crop . I'm sorry if people think that "baiting" should be outlawed , but in my area it not only helps the population to be healthier but also to see more than just the very young animals . I do not own alot of land , but where i do hunt I try to improve the animals that I do happen to see, and if it takes me to feed year round so be it!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fawns get abandoned by their mother a lot (does are hunted in case people didn't know that). It's part of the natural cycle of things for a little abandoned fawn that makes it through the first few years could end up being a very cautious, hard-to-get bruiser someday.
Nate
o come now you wouldn't do that to a fawn would you?
Nate
Better to shoot the fawn than the doe mother. Kill the mother and the fawn dies, kill the fawn and the doe lives to breed again.
I'm not going to think any less of him for doing so. It's his decision and if he does not want to hunt that just means more deer for the rest of us
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