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April 01, 2011

The Sweet Sixteen of Whitetail Brush Rifles, Division II

by Dave Hurteau

With nearly 800 votes cast, I have no choice but to call the winners for the first round of Division 1 matchups, and I have to tell you I’m sorely disappointed. This round should have been rife with upsets. What is this persistent fascination with the utterly outdated Model 94, a barrel-light pipsqueak chambered in cowboy-action rounds unsuited for deer by today’s standards? By the way, the Savage 99, always touted as a great brush gun, is in truth a thick-wristed, long-barreled slow-cycler that’s too clunky to the shoulder for thick-woods hunting, although I’ll admit those are mute points when you can’t find ammo for most of the chamberings. And I suppose you’ll go chalk with the 336 in Division II as well. Am I right? That overweight second cousin to the obsolete 94....

Okay enough of that. Check the date. Seriously, I own one of each. So the perfectly reasonable winners are the Winchester Model 94, Savage 99, Remington Model Seven (in upset fashion), and Marlin Model 308MXLR.

Now to Division II. Here are the rankings:

Division II
1. Marlin 336: Marlin’s family of classic lever actions have been busting bucks for generations, and the hugely popular 336 has long been the shining sibling.
2. Remington Model 7600: A classic utilitarian, work-horse of a brush gun. You won’t find a more popular rifle in today’s north-woods deer camps.
3. Browning BLR: With the addition of the many new WSM options, the BLR might well surpass the classic lever actions in the deer woods. Some day.
4. Henry .30-30 (Steel with Round Barrel): A well-built, nicely-priced American made gun from the company that introduced the lever-action rifle about 150 years ago. A solid, smooth performer.
5. Remington Model 750 Woodsmaster: Although not yet time-tested, the 750 shows great promise as a new and more reliable version of the early classic Woodsmaster autoloaders.
6. Savage Model 11 Lightweight Hunter: With Savage’s excellent AccuTrigger and superb reputation for accuracy and value, this 5-1/2-pounder is a heck of a bolt gun for the brush.
7. Kimber Model 84M: The qualities that make the Kimber a fantastic mountain rifle also make it a great woods gun. But it ain’t cheap.
8. Remington Model R-15 450 Bushmaster: The styling is bound to turn off some traditional big-woods hunters, but at 7-1/2 pounds, with an 18-inch barrel, and big-bore wallop, this is a quick-pointing, legitimate brush gun.

Check out the bracket (you can click here to print out a larger copy if you want to fill it out). Then vote for your preferred brush rifle in each matchup below. We’ll follow up with the winners and the Elite Eight contests in a few days.

Sweet Sixteen Whitetail Brush Rifles Tournament: Division II

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from flyer22 wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

I'm surprised that you actually sound surprised, Dave.
Just as the basketball tournament has a familiar group of teams in it every year, so will this contest.
There is a reason that the same teams seem to reach the Final Four year after year, and I imagine it might be the same for some of these rifles.

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from campns wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

you see when i think of brush gun i think of short, light, and accurate. The winchester model 94 or Marlin 336 fit that perfectly. If you have ever had to stalk the trees of Western PA you appreciate something that can be used while chest high in Thicket. I have a 336 in 35 remington, and a savage 1100b in 35 remington as well for that reason. You never need more than a 4 power scope because in a typical "Brush" situation there are too many things ie small branches etc to get in the way of your shot and if you can take a clear shot at 100yds or less with a 4 power fixed, buddy you got problems.

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from jay wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

hard to believe the tikka lost to the winchester 94.

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from campns wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

oops I said Savage 1100 not 170b... was thinking of my clays gun. sorry fellas.

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from Dave Hurteau wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

Thanks, fellas. Now I can say I fooled somebody on April 1st.
Of course, I'm not surprise in the least. As I wrote in the post, I own one of each, specifially a M94 in .30/30, a Savage 99 in .300 Savage, and a 336 in .35 Rem.

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from Proverbs wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

Dave, as noted in the Division I comments, people appear to be voting based on nostalgia instead of the reality that this is a brush rifle contest.

That being said, the 336 may be called second cousin to the 94, but the 336 certainly outperforms its cousin in function.

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from dbarry wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

aw man, I voted for the henry, just because I never heard of a remington model 75.

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from Dave Hurteau wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

dbarry,
Good catch. We'll get that fixed.

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from shane wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

The "big bore" power of the .450 Bushmaster is overrated. It's like a .308 at the muzzle and a golf ball past that. It's only a big bore in the minds of AR fanboys, who think it's ready for Alaskan moose and browns. I think if they saw an Alaskan moose withing range, they would drop their plastic hardware and run. Not that it needs any help losing...

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from Pa deer hunter wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

My money is on the marlin 336. (I also have one in 35 rem).

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from Walt Smith wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

Deer hunters will never embrase the AR platform rifles, not because of the style, but because of the chamberings!! Someday a gun maker will get smart and beef up that action and lengthen it to accept .270, .280, .30-06, and .35 Remington ammo. Then deer hunters everywhere will jump for joy and carry the rifles in the deer woods, but not until then!

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from NHshtr wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

I still have a Remington 760 and shoot deer in thick NH woods with it. So I had to vote for it's grandchild the 7600 (even though it's not as pretty as my 760).

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from NHshtr wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

BTW, Dave, I'm sure you're aware that although today's Henry Rifle Co. makes a nice rifle - they aren't the same company that made the first lever action (the venerable Henry 1860)as you commented above. (Or was that another April Fool's joke on us?)

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from shane wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

Walt - using real deer cartridges like you listed is going out of style.

Now we use rodent rifles to impress people with our shooting skills (how that makes sense, I still don't know).

Or, we use UberMagnums to impress people with our gear setups marksmanship and how far we can nail them, AKA how not good at real hunting we are.

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from AJMcClure wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

At 7 lbs with a scopes the 7mm Rem Magnum in Tikka T3 Light that I just finished breaking in is a pleasure to shoot and hunt(carry) with, I hunt in heavy brush with buckshot, so I am a little unsure about the relevance of the "brush rifle" but I would say that a 30-30 lever action by Winchester has taken a lot of game in the woods. Scopes get caught on brush. Also like the Woodmaster in 30-06, and the 250 Savage with peephole sights small, quick, and great in the hands. Good Luck.

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from Walt Smith wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

Shane- I own 2 deer rifles, both are 30-06, I've looked at other deer rifles but when I contemplate buying one the nagging question that pops into my head everytime is- What the f#@* are you thinking?

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from jjas wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

Looks like the "modern sporting rifle" is getting trounced pretty good by the 336....

Anyone surprised?

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from Dr. Ralph wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

The lever actions Winchester 94 and Marlin 336 are what we think of in Tennessee as brush rifles. They are everywhere....

I have a Remington 7400 which is what I think you are calling a model 75. The Woodsmaster was a 7500 but now everyone just has the black rifle el cheapo 7400. It is the semi-auto Remington which always fires and is light and small. Get one in every caliber, mine is a .270 and it is the ultimate brush gun. Bang bang bang bang bang..... look for blood.

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from Dr. Ralph wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

Yeah I actually prefer a Remington 1100 as a brush gun. I have two of those. Slugs work well at short distances.

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from iron giant wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

I have a 336 in .35 Remington too. I don't know what more you could ask for in a brush gun. I'm kind of having a hard time seeing how bolt guns could be brush guns. I much prefer a pump or ideally a lever action. Don't get me wrong I love bolt guns, but they just don't seem able to compete with levers in the brush gun category.

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from iron giant wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

Oh yeah, forgot to add that either open sights or a peep sight is the only way to go on a brush gun. For the kind of ranges you'll encounter while using one, a scope would just slow you down in my opinion.

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from jamesti wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

i voted against the kimber mainly because of the price. dave, i was suprised to see you talk badly about the 94 and savage 99. glad you were joking. i also have one in .300 savage. great rifle!

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from JW7MM-08 wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

I own or have owned several of these rifles, including the Model 7, the 336, the new Rem 750, a 7600, and a vintage 94 from the early 60's. The 750 is miles ahead of the old 742's and 7400's, and I never really cared for the way a 7600 carried or shouldered. But I wouldnt trade anything in this world for my little Model 7 in 7mm-08 or my 336 in 3-30. Both are topped with Leupolds and are as reliable as the sunset. However, IMHO, the M7 is the ultimate brush gun, light, short, quick pointing and reliable. Ive jump shot 2 running bucks with it and it prints .75 MOA with Federal Premium 140gr Nosler partitions.

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from Dave Hurteau wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

jamsti,
Not sure if you noticed by I answered your question, as did Shane, about how to put a scope on your 99.
Shane,
I was going to concede your point that the 99 will meet the 94 too early in the tourney, but I don't feel so obliged now that I know you put a red-dot on yours.
Kidding…just kidding.
Seriously, you are right that it's an awful purdy gun scopeless, but those Stith mounts and antique Weaver are so old-school cool that they seem part of the rifle to my eye. That dim, narrow tube is hardly ideal for the brush, but I can't bring myself to take it off.

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from Walt Smith wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

My Remington 740 has a black Bell and Carlson fiberglass stock (because the wood one was split from the index finger to the thumb)It never jams because it is religiously cleaned, and serial number 55173 will still put 3 shots into a 3/4 inch hole on a bad day! Woodsmaster!

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from shane wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

It was just a trial test. I swear.

Honestly, before I left it on max brightness, killed the batteries, and removed it, it was one hell of a weapon. Between the easy target acquisition of the optic and the nearly unmatched pointing ability and quick cycling of that rifle, I could hit anything at thick woods ranges faster and more effectively than I ever have before.

Since I'm just hunting ungulates with it, I took it off for goodness sake. When the zombie thing happens, it's going back on.

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from shane wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

Walt - Stay the course, brother.

jjas - Nope.

iron giant - I'm with you. They aren't true brush guns, but I guess I'll allow it. They're a good crossover for hunting a lot of areas where usually you're in the thick stuff, but sometimes have a longer shot available.

On the other hand, the Savage 99 takes care of that business for you. So there you go. No need for bolt guns.

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from cmikles1 wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

I think it'll come down to the Marlin vs. Winchester in the end.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

I'm not sure that I would agree that a 7 pound - 7mm Rem Mag would be a "joy" to shoot. I have a .30-06 that scales just under 7 pounds and it is everything but a joy to shoot. JMO

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from eahand wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

The Winchester 94 is the gun that won the west. In Central Pa when shots are rarely if ever over 75 yrds its the gun that you can always count on. Short, solid, dependable are words that I would use to discribe this fine firearm. Id say it could shoot straight thru 100 yards of slashings and come out none the worse. Its only downfall is unloading which can be cumbersome and slightly dangerous if done halfhazardly. You can pick one up at you local gun shop for $150 and put meat on the table for years-not to mention pass something down to your son that he can proudly display in his gun rack.

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from MLH wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

The Gun that Won the West was actually the 1873.

Just can't get myself to vote on the BLR versus Savage 11. Might be excellent guns but I have never cared enough for the looks of either to even consider one.

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from iron giant wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

I agree that this will probably end up being between the 94 and 336.

I have a friend who has his Dad's old 94. He can shoots targets 300 yards out with it. I doubt it has much power out that far, but.

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from AJMcClure wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

WAM it certainly kicks but freehand, or while shooting at game the kick does not matter, did add some extra sand bags bench shooting on Caldwell's Lead sled. The Tikka is very balanced and compared to my brother's heavy BAR it is lot easier to shoot freehand accurately, and I appreciate that in a primary hunting rifle-being able to shoot freehand accurately- being balanced and light weight is my friend.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

AJ

I like the Tikka rifles even though I do not own one. They sure have a slick action and everyone seems to be happy with their accuracy. They are a bit light for the magnum rounds to me, but to each his own taste. One of my friends is adding weight to his to tame down the .300 WSM a bit. My 7mm mag weighs 9 1/4 pounds and shoots fine from the bench, but will wear on you even then. In the field it is no big deal. It is not a "joy" to carry for an old guy like me, where the Tikka would be!

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

The Remington 7600 might give either a run down the stretch! Those guys in PA and New England love them!

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from Beekeeper wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

Good to see the old Remington "Woods Blaster" still holding its own.

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from dermesej wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

the reason they were voted for is because thats a gun everyones shot, grew up with, and loves. How Many People have actually shot the tikka t3 lite? Not Everyone Gets guns handed to them. Where I'm from, Everyone has killed there first deer with a 30-30 Lever action somethin or other. So I think that One of those rifles is going to be the one that wins.

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from Wallace-N-Gromit wrote 1 year 6 weeks ago

What a stupid exercise this is. The best gun for hunting Whitetail in brushy country is the one that you own and you get results with. Doesn't matter what it is, you have it, you are comfortable with it, you shoot it enough to know it well. That's it. Caliber don't matter. Type of action is meaningless. Type of bullet ain't very meaningful either.

You have the gun, you can afford the ammo, you can hit what you shoot at.

That's venison for supper. Anything else is just danged foolishness.

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from cmikles1 wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

I think it'll come down to the Marlin vs. Winchester in the end.

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from Pa deer hunter wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

My money is on the marlin 336. (I also have one in 35 rem).

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from Walt Smith wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

Deer hunters will never embrase the AR platform rifles, not because of the style, but because of the chamberings!! Someday a gun maker will get smart and beef up that action and lengthen it to accept .270, .280, .30-06, and .35 Remington ammo. Then deer hunters everywhere will jump for joy and carry the rifles in the deer woods, but not until then!

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from Walt Smith wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

Shane- I own 2 deer rifles, both are 30-06, I've looked at other deer rifles but when I contemplate buying one the nagging question that pops into my head everytime is- What the f#@* are you thinking?

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from jjas wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

Looks like the "modern sporting rifle" is getting trounced pretty good by the 336....

Anyone surprised?

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from Dr. Ralph wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

Yeah I actually prefer a Remington 1100 as a brush gun. I have two of those. Slugs work well at short distances.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

The Remington 7600 might give either a run down the stretch! Those guys in PA and New England love them!

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from campns wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

you see when i think of brush gun i think of short, light, and accurate. The winchester model 94 or Marlin 336 fit that perfectly. If you have ever had to stalk the trees of Western PA you appreciate something that can be used while chest high in Thicket. I have a 336 in 35 remington, and a savage 1100b in 35 remington as well for that reason. You never need more than a 4 power scope because in a typical "Brush" situation there are too many things ie small branches etc to get in the way of your shot and if you can take a clear shot at 100yds or less with a 4 power fixed, buddy you got problems.

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from jay wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

hard to believe the tikka lost to the winchester 94.

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from Proverbs wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

Dave, as noted in the Division I comments, people appear to be voting based on nostalgia instead of the reality that this is a brush rifle contest.

That being said, the 336 may be called second cousin to the 94, but the 336 certainly outperforms its cousin in function.

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from dbarry wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

aw man, I voted for the henry, just because I never heard of a remington model 75.

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from shane wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

The "big bore" power of the .450 Bushmaster is overrated. It's like a .308 at the muzzle and a golf ball past that. It's only a big bore in the minds of AR fanboys, who think it's ready for Alaskan moose and browns. I think if they saw an Alaskan moose withing range, they would drop their plastic hardware and run. Not that it needs any help losing...

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from shane wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

Walt - using real deer cartridges like you listed is going out of style.

Now we use rodent rifles to impress people with our shooting skills (how that makes sense, I still don't know).

Or, we use UberMagnums to impress people with our gear setups marksmanship and how far we can nail them, AKA how not good at real hunting we are.

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from AJMcClure wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

At 7 lbs with a scopes the 7mm Rem Magnum in Tikka T3 Light that I just finished breaking in is a pleasure to shoot and hunt(carry) with, I hunt in heavy brush with buckshot, so I am a little unsure about the relevance of the "brush rifle" but I would say that a 30-30 lever action by Winchester has taken a lot of game in the woods. Scopes get caught on brush. Also like the Woodmaster in 30-06, and the 250 Savage with peephole sights small, quick, and great in the hands. Good Luck.

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from Dr. Ralph wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

The lever actions Winchester 94 and Marlin 336 are what we think of in Tennessee as brush rifles. They are everywhere....

I have a Remington 7400 which is what I think you are calling a model 75. The Woodsmaster was a 7500 but now everyone just has the black rifle el cheapo 7400. It is the semi-auto Remington which always fires and is light and small. Get one in every caliber, mine is a .270 and it is the ultimate brush gun. Bang bang bang bang bang..... look for blood.

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from iron giant wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

I have a 336 in .35 Remington too. I don't know what more you could ask for in a brush gun. I'm kind of having a hard time seeing how bolt guns could be brush guns. I much prefer a pump or ideally a lever action. Don't get me wrong I love bolt guns, but they just don't seem able to compete with levers in the brush gun category.

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from jamesti wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

i voted against the kimber mainly because of the price. dave, i was suprised to see you talk badly about the 94 and savage 99. glad you were joking. i also have one in .300 savage. great rifle!

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from Dave Hurteau wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

jamsti,
Not sure if you noticed by I answered your question, as did Shane, about how to put a scope on your 99.
Shane,
I was going to concede your point that the 99 will meet the 94 too early in the tourney, but I don't feel so obliged now that I know you put a red-dot on yours.
Kidding…just kidding.
Seriously, you are right that it's an awful purdy gun scopeless, but those Stith mounts and antique Weaver are so old-school cool that they seem part of the rifle to my eye. That dim, narrow tube is hardly ideal for the brush, but I can't bring myself to take it off.

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from shane wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

It was just a trial test. I swear.

Honestly, before I left it on max brightness, killed the batteries, and removed it, it was one hell of a weapon. Between the easy target acquisition of the optic and the nearly unmatched pointing ability and quick cycling of that rifle, I could hit anything at thick woods ranges faster and more effectively than I ever have before.

Since I'm just hunting ungulates with it, I took it off for goodness sake. When the zombie thing happens, it's going back on.

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from eahand wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

The Winchester 94 is the gun that won the west. In Central Pa when shots are rarely if ever over 75 yrds its the gun that you can always count on. Short, solid, dependable are words that I would use to discribe this fine firearm. Id say it could shoot straight thru 100 yards of slashings and come out none the worse. Its only downfall is unloading which can be cumbersome and slightly dangerous if done halfhazardly. You can pick one up at you local gun shop for $150 and put meat on the table for years-not to mention pass something down to your son that he can proudly display in his gun rack.

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from MLH wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

The Gun that Won the West was actually the 1873.

Just can't get myself to vote on the BLR versus Savage 11. Might be excellent guns but I have never cared enough for the looks of either to even consider one.

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from Beekeeper wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

Good to see the old Remington "Woods Blaster" still holding its own.

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from flyer22 wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

I'm surprised that you actually sound surprised, Dave.
Just as the basketball tournament has a familiar group of teams in it every year, so will this contest.
There is a reason that the same teams seem to reach the Final Four year after year, and I imagine it might be the same for some of these rifles.

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from campns wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

oops I said Savage 1100 not 170b... was thinking of my clays gun. sorry fellas.

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from Dave Hurteau wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

Thanks, fellas. Now I can say I fooled somebody on April 1st.
Of course, I'm not surprise in the least. As I wrote in the post, I own one of each, specifially a M94 in .30/30, a Savage 99 in .300 Savage, and a 336 in .35 Rem.

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from Dave Hurteau wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

dbarry,
Good catch. We'll get that fixed.

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from NHshtr wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

I still have a Remington 760 and shoot deer in thick NH woods with it. So I had to vote for it's grandchild the 7600 (even though it's not as pretty as my 760).

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from NHshtr wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

BTW, Dave, I'm sure you're aware that although today's Henry Rifle Co. makes a nice rifle - they aren't the same company that made the first lever action (the venerable Henry 1860)as you commented above. (Or was that another April Fool's joke on us?)

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from iron giant wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

Oh yeah, forgot to add that either open sights or a peep sight is the only way to go on a brush gun. For the kind of ranges you'll encounter while using one, a scope would just slow you down in my opinion.

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from JW7MM-08 wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

I own or have owned several of these rifles, including the Model 7, the 336, the new Rem 750, a 7600, and a vintage 94 from the early 60's. The 750 is miles ahead of the old 742's and 7400's, and I never really cared for the way a 7600 carried or shouldered. But I wouldnt trade anything in this world for my little Model 7 in 7mm-08 or my 336 in 3-30. Both are topped with Leupolds and are as reliable as the sunset. However, IMHO, the M7 is the ultimate brush gun, light, short, quick pointing and reliable. Ive jump shot 2 running bucks with it and it prints .75 MOA with Federal Premium 140gr Nosler partitions.

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from Walt Smith wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

My Remington 740 has a black Bell and Carlson fiberglass stock (because the wood one was split from the index finger to the thumb)It never jams because it is religiously cleaned, and serial number 55173 will still put 3 shots into a 3/4 inch hole on a bad day! Woodsmaster!

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from shane wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

Walt - Stay the course, brother.

jjas - Nope.

iron giant - I'm with you. They aren't true brush guns, but I guess I'll allow it. They're a good crossover for hunting a lot of areas where usually you're in the thick stuff, but sometimes have a longer shot available.

On the other hand, the Savage 99 takes care of that business for you. So there you go. No need for bolt guns.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

I'm not sure that I would agree that a 7 pound - 7mm Rem Mag would be a "joy" to shoot. I have a .30-06 that scales just under 7 pounds and it is everything but a joy to shoot. JMO

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from iron giant wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

I agree that this will probably end up being between the 94 and 336.

I have a friend who has his Dad's old 94. He can shoots targets 300 yards out with it. I doubt it has much power out that far, but.

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from AJMcClure wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

WAM it certainly kicks but freehand, or while shooting at game the kick does not matter, did add some extra sand bags bench shooting on Caldwell's Lead sled. The Tikka is very balanced and compared to my brother's heavy BAR it is lot easier to shoot freehand accurately, and I appreciate that in a primary hunting rifle-being able to shoot freehand accurately- being balanced and light weight is my friend.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

AJ

I like the Tikka rifles even though I do not own one. They sure have a slick action and everyone seems to be happy with their accuracy. They are a bit light for the magnum rounds to me, but to each his own taste. One of my friends is adding weight to his to tame down the .300 WSM a bit. My 7mm mag weighs 9 1/4 pounds and shoots fine from the bench, but will wear on you even then. In the field it is no big deal. It is not a "joy" to carry for an old guy like me, where the Tikka would be!

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from dermesej wrote 1 year 7 weeks ago

the reason they were voted for is because thats a gun everyones shot, grew up with, and loves. How Many People have actually shot the tikka t3 lite? Not Everyone Gets guns handed to them. Where I'm from, Everyone has killed there first deer with a 30-30 Lever action somethin or other. So I think that One of those rifles is going to be the one that wins.

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from Wallace-N-Gromit wrote 1 year 6 weeks ago

What a stupid exercise this is. The best gun for hunting Whitetail in brushy country is the one that you own and you get results with. Doesn't matter what it is, you have it, you are comfortable with it, you shoot it enough to know it well. That's it. Caliber don't matter. Type of action is meaningless. Type of bullet ain't very meaningful either.

You have the gun, you can afford the ammo, you can hit what you shoot at.

That's venison for supper. Anything else is just danged foolishness.

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