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May 09, 2011

Don't Tell Me I Should Have Passed This Jake...

by Dave Hurteau

You may remember that I arrowed a forkhorn buck last October and posted a picture of it in this space accompanied by the obligatory (these days) explanation of why I shouldn’t have to apologize for shooting a small buck, which is almost like an apology itself—but isn’t one exactly, I insist. Yesterday morning I shot a jake turkey. So here’s my non-apology:

I don’t get the whole pass-a-jake thing. I admit it’s probably arbitrary. I love turkey hunting, but for whatever reason the gobbler-as-trophy idea has never resonated with me. I’ve killed a number of toms but have never saved a single beard or fan or spur. On the other hand, I’ve passed lots of bucks in the hope of shooting one with bigger antlers, and I have racks on display in every corner of my office. Go figure. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that the Stone Age artists painted animals with exaggerated antlers—not so much outsized beards and spurs. Maybe not.

In any case, on Tuesday I should have killed a big tom but didn’t because I forgot to load my gun. Thursday morning, on the same pastured knoll, I had him coming in to my decoys again when three belligerent jakes came elbowing in like a posse of street punks and sent the gobbler fast-walking into the honeysuckle. This time, my gun was loaded.

 

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from chuckles wrote 1 year 2 weeks ago

Like everything else the person who pulls the trigger is making the decision about trophy status. Others' opinions don't really matter.
Congratulations on a successful hunt!
I like to save a momento of every hunt, even if it's only the unfilled tag.

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from Ga hunter wrote 1 year 2 weeks ago

Nice bird! dont listen to people who think that taking a jake or a small buck is "unsportsman like" besides a turkey is a turkey!

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from Beekeeper wrote 1 year 2 weeks ago

To each his own. I leave the Jakes to grow up. The length of a beard means little to me. However, a big set of spurs is the mark of an old tom.

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from jjas wrote 1 year 2 weeks ago

Unless the landowner specifies what he/she wants killed off their land, I figure if it's legal and I choose to try and take it...that's my choice and my business.

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from jjas wrote 1 year 2 weeks ago

Unless the landowner specifies what he/she wants taken off the land I'm hunting, I figure if it's legal and I want to try and take it...that's my business.

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from johntalbott wrote 1 year 2 weeks ago

hell, you can't eat the beards or spurs! That turkey looks delicious

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from FirstBubba wrote 1 year 2 weeks ago

Okay, Hurteau, if you insist.
You should have passed on that jake.....NOT!!!
Trophy is a relative thing. Sometimes, the satisfaction comes not as an overgrown or hormone-ally challenged freak of nature, but completeing the task one assign's oneself, like building a home, gives one a feeling of self satisfaction that antlers, body mass, beard and spur length just can't match.
Job well done! Nice bird!

Bubba

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from Nebraskahunter18 wrote 1 year 2 weeks ago

Your turkey hunting...thats a turkey...good choice.

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from Nebraskahunter18 wrote 1 year 2 weeks ago

Your turkey hunting....thats a turkey...good choice

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from Walt Smith wrote 1 year 2 weeks ago

Nice birdie! You gotta stop worrying about what other people think, eventhough it does make good foddler for a story! So with that in mind-- Can't believe ya didn't let that jake grow up! in a couple years he would've had a 9 inch beard and two inch spurs! Hell, John Wayne's Aunt Dorthy had longer spurs than that and she had a 5 inch beard too!!

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from motyarrum wrote 1 year 2 weeks ago

Well done Dave! With archery equipment especially, any turkey is a trophy, and no one who eats wild turkey often would prefer to eat a 3 year tom to a jake.

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from motyarrum wrote 1 year 2 weeks ago

Well done Dave! Especially with archery tackle, any bird is a trophy, and let's face it: no one who eats turkey very often would prefer a 3 year old tom to a jake.

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from crosbychief wrote 1 year 2 weeks ago

My son Ken was 12 when I started turkey hunting about 17 years ago. We were new at the game, and had a lot to learn (after 2010 and 2011 seasons, it appears I have to start learning all over again, but that is another story...). Ken was reading all the articles in F&S, OL, NWTF...longbeards, toms, gobblers....one morning when we were set up he whispered to me...."Dad, would you shoot a jake?" Thought a moment...."Ken, I would never shoot a jake...unless he was within range..." It took him a second, but he got it.

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from buckhunter wrote 1 year 2 weeks ago

My previous post must have been lost...

Great bird Dave. They all taste the same. I would suggest passing the tail along to some fly tying buddies.

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from NHshtr wrote 1 year 2 weeks ago

I'm still waiting for my first, so any turkey looks good to me!

If I had a tom and a jake in range together, then fine I'd go for the tom. If only a jake was running around in front of my sights......boom!

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from olinger302 wrote 1 year 2 weeks ago

My first bird I shot was a nice tom and I thought that I would never top the feeling I got when I shot it. But when I called in 4 jakes to my little brother and we each shot one (his first bird), well that easily topped the feeling of that tom!

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from Del in KS wrote 1 year 2 weeks ago

Last week after he took an Iowa gobbler with 1.5 inch spurs I told Billy D. he was now a master turkey hunter. No more grasshopper for him after taking about 30 gobblers and this old bird.
Anyway, yesterday Billy D and yours truly drove up to the family farm. We caught a bucket full of catfish, bluegills and one nice bass. Spent the night in a mom and pop motel, got up early and went turkey hunting at the farm. We set up in our favorite spots along a creek bottom bordered by a field with old corn stubble in it. At first light a gobbler flew down and lit 40 yds out from Billy. He touched off his favorite old Remington 1100 and scared the crap out of that gobbler when he shot over his head. I was watching from my spot about 350 yards away. The bird flew about half way to me, lit and ran into the woods. At 9:00 am I had heard nothing and only seen one hen. It was time to go 'cause Billy had to be home by a certain time. I took up my decoy and walked up the tree line to get Billy. When I got pretty close the sound of Billy's old box call tickled
my ears so decided to have some fun. Eased my Beekeeper special out of the coat and used it to gobble. When I did a mature gobbler raised his head in the bushes about 15 yds behind Billy and only 10 yds from me. There was nothing to do but raise ol' Betsy and touch off a 3.5 in load of heavy #6. Billy wanted to know if I was trying to scare him. Nope, just shot my 66th gobbler off your back was the reply. The bird weighed just shy of 21 lb and had a paintbrush beard about 10 inches long. Spurs went about .75 inch. Had to raz Billy about the earlier miss. Told him he is back to grasshopper status. We only heard 3 gobbles all morning and think this bird was the same bird Billy missed. Billy said he heard the bird behind him cluck several times but never gobbled. Note that I knew exactly where Billy was sitting before the shot. That bird was so close I could see his eye. Don't know why he just stood there and looked at me. Maybe he thought he was hidden in the underbrush.

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from Dave Hurteau wrote 1 year 2 weeks ago

Hey Buckhunter,
Thanks. I'll be keeping that tail and the primary wing feathers for my own flies. Hard to find time to tie as many flies as I used to, but I still do it when I can.

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from Dave Hurteau wrote 1 year 2 weeks ago

Hey Buckhunter,
Thanks. I'll be keeping that tail and the primary wing feathers for my own flies. Hard to find time to tie as many flies as I used to, but I still do it when I can.

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from Del in KS wrote 1 year 2 weeks ago

If you click my name you can see the sideways photo of the above gobbler. Couldn't get the pic to straighten.
Maybe the editors can fix.

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from RES1956 wrote 1 year 2 weeks ago

Dave, Im just glad your gun was loaded-LOL. And Del, if that's how you hunt 'em in Kansas, I wouldn't come to Alabama lookin' for a longbeard, our possums are smarter than that.

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from deerhunterrick wrote 1 year 1 week ago

I really don't think it matters what you take as long as it was legal and up to your standards. Far better to enjoy the hunt for what it was, then not remember what you didn't see or shoot. Nice bird by any account. You don't eat what you hang off a wall or board.

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from Jim Berardi wrote 1 year 5 days ago

My elderly Father pulled that stunt last year(unloaded shotgun) & ended up eating crow-at least you got some turkey to serve up & revenge at the same time! By the way my 81yr old Dad redeemed himself opening day this Spring with a 21lb bird & broke his 3year dry spell. Jim

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from chuckles wrote 1 year 2 weeks ago

Like everything else the person who pulls the trigger is making the decision about trophy status. Others' opinions don't really matter.
Congratulations on a successful hunt!
I like to save a momento of every hunt, even if it's only the unfilled tag.

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from crosbychief wrote 1 year 2 weeks ago

My son Ken was 12 when I started turkey hunting about 17 years ago. We were new at the game, and had a lot to learn (after 2010 and 2011 seasons, it appears I have to start learning all over again, but that is another story...). Ken was reading all the articles in F&S, OL, NWTF...longbeards, toms, gobblers....one morning when we were set up he whispered to me...."Dad, would you shoot a jake?" Thought a moment...."Ken, I would never shoot a jake...unless he was within range..." It took him a second, but he got it.

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from Ga hunter wrote 1 year 2 weeks ago

Nice bird! dont listen to people who think that taking a jake or a small buck is "unsportsman like" besides a turkey is a turkey!

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from Beekeeper wrote 1 year 2 weeks ago

To each his own. I leave the Jakes to grow up. The length of a beard means little to me. However, a big set of spurs is the mark of an old tom.

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from jjas wrote 1 year 2 weeks ago

Unless the landowner specifies what he/she wants killed off their land, I figure if it's legal and I choose to try and take it...that's my choice and my business.

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from johntalbott wrote 1 year 2 weeks ago

hell, you can't eat the beards or spurs! That turkey looks delicious

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from buckhunter wrote 1 year 2 weeks ago

My previous post must have been lost...

Great bird Dave. They all taste the same. I would suggest passing the tail along to some fly tying buddies.

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from jjas wrote 1 year 2 weeks ago

Unless the landowner specifies what he/she wants taken off the land I'm hunting, I figure if it's legal and I want to try and take it...that's my business.

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from FirstBubba wrote 1 year 2 weeks ago

Okay, Hurteau, if you insist.
You should have passed on that jake.....NOT!!!
Trophy is a relative thing. Sometimes, the satisfaction comes not as an overgrown or hormone-ally challenged freak of nature, but completeing the task one assign's oneself, like building a home, gives one a feeling of self satisfaction that antlers, body mass, beard and spur length just can't match.
Job well done! Nice bird!

Bubba

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from Nebraskahunter18 wrote 1 year 2 weeks ago

Your turkey hunting...thats a turkey...good choice.

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from Nebraskahunter18 wrote 1 year 2 weeks ago

Your turkey hunting....thats a turkey...good choice

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from Walt Smith wrote 1 year 2 weeks ago

Nice birdie! You gotta stop worrying about what other people think, eventhough it does make good foddler for a story! So with that in mind-- Can't believe ya didn't let that jake grow up! in a couple years he would've had a 9 inch beard and two inch spurs! Hell, John Wayne's Aunt Dorthy had longer spurs than that and she had a 5 inch beard too!!

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from motyarrum wrote 1 year 2 weeks ago

Well done Dave! With archery equipment especially, any turkey is a trophy, and no one who eats wild turkey often would prefer to eat a 3 year tom to a jake.

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from motyarrum wrote 1 year 2 weeks ago

Well done Dave! Especially with archery tackle, any bird is a trophy, and let's face it: no one who eats turkey very often would prefer a 3 year old tom to a jake.

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from NHshtr wrote 1 year 2 weeks ago

I'm still waiting for my first, so any turkey looks good to me!

If I had a tom and a jake in range together, then fine I'd go for the tom. If only a jake was running around in front of my sights......boom!

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from olinger302 wrote 1 year 2 weeks ago

My first bird I shot was a nice tom and I thought that I would never top the feeling I got when I shot it. But when I called in 4 jakes to my little brother and we each shot one (his first bird), well that easily topped the feeling of that tom!

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from Dave Hurteau wrote 1 year 2 weeks ago

Hey Buckhunter,
Thanks. I'll be keeping that tail and the primary wing feathers for my own flies. Hard to find time to tie as many flies as I used to, but I still do it when I can.

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from Dave Hurteau wrote 1 year 2 weeks ago

Hey Buckhunter,
Thanks. I'll be keeping that tail and the primary wing feathers for my own flies. Hard to find time to tie as many flies as I used to, but I still do it when I can.

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from Del in KS wrote 1 year 2 weeks ago

If you click my name you can see the sideways photo of the above gobbler. Couldn't get the pic to straighten.
Maybe the editors can fix.

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from RES1956 wrote 1 year 2 weeks ago

Dave, Im just glad your gun was loaded-LOL. And Del, if that's how you hunt 'em in Kansas, I wouldn't come to Alabama lookin' for a longbeard, our possums are smarter than that.

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from deerhunterrick wrote 1 year 1 week ago

I really don't think it matters what you take as long as it was legal and up to your standards. Far better to enjoy the hunt for what it was, then not remember what you didn't see or shoot. Nice bird by any account. You don't eat what you hang off a wall or board.

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from Jim Berardi wrote 1 year 5 days ago

My elderly Father pulled that stunt last year(unloaded shotgun) & ended up eating crow-at least you got some turkey to serve up & revenge at the same time! By the way my 81yr old Dad redeemed himself opening day this Spring with a 21lb bird & broke his 3year dry spell. Jim

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from Del in KS wrote 1 year 2 weeks ago

Last week after he took an Iowa gobbler with 1.5 inch spurs I told Billy D. he was now a master turkey hunter. No more grasshopper for him after taking about 30 gobblers and this old bird.
Anyway, yesterday Billy D and yours truly drove up to the family farm. We caught a bucket full of catfish, bluegills and one nice bass. Spent the night in a mom and pop motel, got up early and went turkey hunting at the farm. We set up in our favorite spots along a creek bottom bordered by a field with old corn stubble in it. At first light a gobbler flew down and lit 40 yds out from Billy. He touched off his favorite old Remington 1100 and scared the crap out of that gobbler when he shot over his head. I was watching from my spot about 350 yards away. The bird flew about half way to me, lit and ran into the woods. At 9:00 am I had heard nothing and only seen one hen. It was time to go 'cause Billy had to be home by a certain time. I took up my decoy and walked up the tree line to get Billy. When I got pretty close the sound of Billy's old box call tickled
my ears so decided to have some fun. Eased my Beekeeper special out of the coat and used it to gobble. When I did a mature gobbler raised his head in the bushes about 15 yds behind Billy and only 10 yds from me. There was nothing to do but raise ol' Betsy and touch off a 3.5 in load of heavy #6. Billy wanted to know if I was trying to scare him. Nope, just shot my 66th gobbler off your back was the reply. The bird weighed just shy of 21 lb and had a paintbrush beard about 10 inches long. Spurs went about .75 inch. Had to raz Billy about the earlier miss. Told him he is back to grasshopper status. We only heard 3 gobbles all morning and think this bird was the same bird Billy missed. Billy said he heard the bird behind him cluck several times but never gobbled. Note that I knew exactly where Billy was sitting before the shot. That bird was so close I could see his eye. Don't know why he just stood there and looked at me. Maybe he thought he was hidden in the underbrush.

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