


November 23, 2011
Hurteau Tests Deer Hunting Scopes for Under $100
By Dave Hurteau
Having fledged under the wing of the great David E. Petzal, I know I should be a glass snob. But my Northeastern, lower-middle-class upbringing won’t allow it. Here in one of the many heavily wooded, economically depressed parts of the country, the way many of us buy scopes is we walk into a big box store, pick a decent-looking scope at a can’t-beat price, and put it on the ol’ deer rifle.
So, as I say in this video clip, that’s just what I did for an upcoming gear test on riflescopes, each for under $100, in the Dec./Jan. issue of Field & Stream. Now don’t get me wrong: I’ve done enough open-country hunting to know the value of truly outstanding glass, but on the other hand, some of these cheap scopes were surprisingly bright and clear, not to mention shockingly durable.
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A lot of people will appreciate this review. It's nice to see something published that geared towards the majority of the readers.
Nice job! It's always nice to get an honest and good review. Can't wait to read the article in the mag.
I have some good glass and some not so good glass. Low light conditions are the only noticeable difference to me. I have never had durability issues with either but I try to take pretty good care of my gear, cheap glass or not. Nothing against DEP but this review will probably be better suited for many F&S readers. I think we have the majority as blue collar subscribers.
Can't wait to read this one. I am a believer that a lot can be done with a lower priced scope. When I finished my doctorate I bought myself a new rifle and put a Bushnell Elite 4200 on it. And that is a great scope. But there's really nothing wrong with the $65 Tasco World Class that I keep on my grandpas's 742 Woodsmaster 30.06. I have always gotten great performance from that scope on a rifle that is 23 years older than me.
If you are a 40 someting on up you can remember the days when scope quality was not what it is now. Even expensive scopes had some quirks. I think the memory of that time period still rests in our minds like a spaghetti stain on a white shirt.
Technology has changed, glass is better, glass grinding is more precise and repeatable. Tubes and adjustments are lots better than the days of old. One big area of improvment has been in lens coatings. Now even the cheapest scopes have some type of coating that helps eliminate glare and process light into a sharper image. Scope builders have also learned from their previous mistakes.
I can tell you that Burris has developed some pretty good stuff in the lower price category. One of their reps kindly provided me with 2 of their Fullfield II scopes about 3 years ago. He told me to dog them out and try to tear them up. So far I haven't hurt them. I have refrained from shooting them with a shotgun though!
They are repeatable, bright, clear and accurate. The ranging feature even works if you pay attention to your loads and double check distances at the range. In the real world you can buy the Fulfield II with a Franklin and a Grant and have money left over to go towards mounts. Lifetime warranty as well.
What a great vid, and something I can use for real life purchases, can't wait to read it in print.
I have to say my favorite reasonably priced scopes wear the Sightron logo. I have two 3X9's that cost me 150.00 each, glass is bright, good low light vision, take a beating, and the bullet moves up when the dial is turned up not the other way around like on so many cheaper scopes.
Many years ago, when I was young and bit more stupid than I am now. I was poor, working 2 jobs and trying to get through night school. I made the mistake of buying a cheap scope at the _mart (for $50 or $60 bucks) which was big money to me at that time) and missed 2 of the biggest bucks of my life, one i crippled and never found. And to mis-quote Wyatt Earp in "Tombstone"; Brother you don't ever want to know how that feels. The scope was a piece of crap.
Never, Never, Never again will I buy low end glass (or from that company again (starts with a (B). I have a friend that has a scope from the the same company and never an issue. What I am saying is what you are buying is lower quality control. If you buy a blister pack scope, you are playing the lottery. If a scope is not giving you a lifetime warranty, look elsewhere. Iron sites are better then a bad scope; period.
Only a couple of hours ago I recieved my paycheck and was debating purchasing a Bushnell Banner... I think I'll wait to see these results before buying a new scope for my 10/22.
I've got some cheap scopes and I've got some really good scopes. I have to admit that the good scopes have a certain "Wow" factor to them. They are very nice scopes, but most of the rifles that I regularly shoot have relatively cheap scopes on them. That includes some of the "B" brand, which is not my favorite, but suits my purposes. Most of my 22s have used Weaver scopes that I bought on eBay.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for a column on "budget" gear!!!! I'm sure that we all love to read about (and dream about) high end gear, but for the majority of us this will be awesome!!
Petzal, God bless him, gives us an education on what top gear is like. But a lot of us can't afford it. When it comes time for us to buy gear, it's a big help when we can turn to honest reviews of gear we are actually trying to choose among.
I will say two things about $100 scopes. First, I've killed a good number of deer over the years in the Northeast woods with a Universal brand (who are they?) scope that I paid $10 for in the early 70's and mounted on my Rem. 760. And I'm still killing deer with it as a backup gun. Secondly, these days, I'm afraid to use a $100 scope. Because I'm worried that quality control isn't what it used to be. So they're made with better material, but I worry that I'll get one of the number of "lemons". Your review may shed some light on whether that's a valid concern.
Wgiles; Good point! Before buying a blister pack, low end, good luck with that scope; check ebay for a used one of the names.
I've never owned what could be, even charitably, described as better than a mid-grade scope. But, I've never had any problems with cheap scopes failing, either. Where they fell down, for me, was that they didn't have repeatable adjustments. I could sight them in for a particular distance, put the caps back on, and hunt with no worries. I couldn't mess with windage and elevation trying to compensate for distance and conditions, and then just dial things back the same number of clicks and have everything be okay.
Now Dave Petzal is, quite possibly, the most self-actualized SOB who ever lived and I daresn't criticize his choices and tastes in gear. I simply can't afford that $3500 rifles and scopes to match. I'm also not about to be jaunting off to exotic places to shoot even more exotic animals under extreme conditions. A reasonably priced scope with decent optics and adjustments that I can put on my .300 Savage, though, might well just move me up a whole level in my own hierarchy of needs.
I think this review is great and Its about time!!! I look forward to the full piece. We have hunted for years with $100 to $150 scopes on 12 gauge shotguns, for deer, bear and turkey. Most of us have them mounted on pumps which take the full recoil of a slug. I've never had a problem with any of my scopes on these guns nor have any of my fellow hunting buddies. Most of the guys I know treat their equipment "average" meaning, nobody I know really beats the piss out of their equipment but nobody treats it like a glass egg either. BTW, the most expensive scope I own is a $200 Bushnell Elite 3200 and it is a very nice scope and that was a real splurge for me!!!!! I could afford more expensive glass but have never seen the need for it. I don't like super cheap junk either though. The outside edge on these cheap scopes is horrible. I'm glad to see the magazine is going to start considering reviews for real people now.
I've owned a few under $75.00, couple under $50.00 and held up and performed just as the big brands
Can't wait!
I agree with RangerD, iron sights are better than bad glass. Back in the day I had a "B" scope which worked fine on the range but get in the piney woods the field of view was too small to quickly find the deer amongst the trees in time to get a good shot before the buck was gone. But that's all I could afford at the time. Took the scope off and put the factory sights back on then killed two deer in two shots with my bolt gun at less than 50yds. I eventually moved to a different part of the country where longer shots are more frequent. I gave "Ol Betsy" a facelift with a drop in stock, 3# trigger job and a Leupold scope. Wow it was like a new gun, didn't know I could shoot that good. Still kept that scope for many years, put it on my 10/22 Ruger. But eventually it wore out, would't hold a zero, adjustment knob totally unreliable. Point is, get the best scope you can afford at the time, but upgrade when you can cause someday your gonna need to.
It's reviews like this and articles like hunting the big woods that is quickly making Hurteau one of my favorite writers and why I keep subscribing to F&S. He's right on my level. Thanks Dave!
Thank you, Newt, for the kind words.
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A lot of people will appreciate this review. It's nice to see something published that geared towards the majority of the readers.
Nice job! It's always nice to get an honest and good review. Can't wait to read the article in the mag.
Can't wait to read this one. I am a believer that a lot can be done with a lower priced scope. When I finished my doctorate I bought myself a new rifle and put a Bushnell Elite 4200 on it. And that is a great scope. But there's really nothing wrong with the $65 Tasco World Class that I keep on my grandpas's 742 Woodsmaster 30.06. I have always gotten great performance from that scope on a rifle that is 23 years older than me.
If you are a 40 someting on up you can remember the days when scope quality was not what it is now. Even expensive scopes had some quirks. I think the memory of that time period still rests in our minds like a spaghetti stain on a white shirt.
Technology has changed, glass is better, glass grinding is more precise and repeatable. Tubes and adjustments are lots better than the days of old. One big area of improvment has been in lens coatings. Now even the cheapest scopes have some type of coating that helps eliminate glare and process light into a sharper image. Scope builders have also learned from their previous mistakes.
I can tell you that Burris has developed some pretty good stuff in the lower price category. One of their reps kindly provided me with 2 of their Fullfield II scopes about 3 years ago. He told me to dog them out and try to tear them up. So far I haven't hurt them. I have refrained from shooting them with a shotgun though!
They are repeatable, bright, clear and accurate. The ranging feature even works if you pay attention to your loads and double check distances at the range. In the real world you can buy the Fulfield II with a Franklin and a Grant and have money left over to go towards mounts. Lifetime warranty as well.
Wgiles; Good point! Before buying a blister pack, low end, good luck with that scope; check ebay for a used one of the names.
I agree with RangerD, iron sights are better than bad glass. Back in the day I had a "B" scope which worked fine on the range but get in the piney woods the field of view was too small to quickly find the deer amongst the trees in time to get a good shot before the buck was gone. But that's all I could afford at the time. Took the scope off and put the factory sights back on then killed two deer in two shots with my bolt gun at less than 50yds. I eventually moved to a different part of the country where longer shots are more frequent. I gave "Ol Betsy" a facelift with a drop in stock, 3# trigger job and a Leupold scope. Wow it was like a new gun, didn't know I could shoot that good. Still kept that scope for many years, put it on my 10/22 Ruger. But eventually it wore out, would't hold a zero, adjustment knob totally unreliable. Point is, get the best scope you can afford at the time, but upgrade when you can cause someday your gonna need to.
I have some good glass and some not so good glass. Low light conditions are the only noticeable difference to me. I have never had durability issues with either but I try to take pretty good care of my gear, cheap glass or not. Nothing against DEP but this review will probably be better suited for many F&S readers. I think we have the majority as blue collar subscribers.
What a great vid, and something I can use for real life purchases, can't wait to read it in print.
I have to say my favorite reasonably priced scopes wear the Sightron logo. I have two 3X9's that cost me 150.00 each, glass is bright, good low light vision, take a beating, and the bullet moves up when the dial is turned up not the other way around like on so many cheaper scopes.
Many years ago, when I was young and bit more stupid than I am now. I was poor, working 2 jobs and trying to get through night school. I made the mistake of buying a cheap scope at the _mart (for $50 or $60 bucks) which was big money to me at that time) and missed 2 of the biggest bucks of my life, one i crippled and never found. And to mis-quote Wyatt Earp in "Tombstone"; Brother you don't ever want to know how that feels. The scope was a piece of crap.
Never, Never, Never again will I buy low end glass (or from that company again (starts with a (B). I have a friend that has a scope from the the same company and never an issue. What I am saying is what you are buying is lower quality control. If you buy a blister pack scope, you are playing the lottery. If a scope is not giving you a lifetime warranty, look elsewhere. Iron sites are better then a bad scope; period.
Only a couple of hours ago I recieved my paycheck and was debating purchasing a Bushnell Banner... I think I'll wait to see these results before buying a new scope for my 10/22.
I've got some cheap scopes and I've got some really good scopes. I have to admit that the good scopes have a certain "Wow" factor to them. They are very nice scopes, but most of the rifles that I regularly shoot have relatively cheap scopes on them. That includes some of the "B" brand, which is not my favorite, but suits my purposes. Most of my 22s have used Weaver scopes that I bought on eBay.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for a column on "budget" gear!!!! I'm sure that we all love to read about (and dream about) high end gear, but for the majority of us this will be awesome!!
Petzal, God bless him, gives us an education on what top gear is like. But a lot of us can't afford it. When it comes time for us to buy gear, it's a big help when we can turn to honest reviews of gear we are actually trying to choose among.
I will say two things about $100 scopes. First, I've killed a good number of deer over the years in the Northeast woods with a Universal brand (who are they?) scope that I paid $10 for in the early 70's and mounted on my Rem. 760. And I'm still killing deer with it as a backup gun. Secondly, these days, I'm afraid to use a $100 scope. Because I'm worried that quality control isn't what it used to be. So they're made with better material, but I worry that I'll get one of the number of "lemons". Your review may shed some light on whether that's a valid concern.
I've never owned what could be, even charitably, described as better than a mid-grade scope. But, I've never had any problems with cheap scopes failing, either. Where they fell down, for me, was that they didn't have repeatable adjustments. I could sight them in for a particular distance, put the caps back on, and hunt with no worries. I couldn't mess with windage and elevation trying to compensate for distance and conditions, and then just dial things back the same number of clicks and have everything be okay.
Now Dave Petzal is, quite possibly, the most self-actualized SOB who ever lived and I daresn't criticize his choices and tastes in gear. I simply can't afford that $3500 rifles and scopes to match. I'm also not about to be jaunting off to exotic places to shoot even more exotic animals under extreme conditions. A reasonably priced scope with decent optics and adjustments that I can put on my .300 Savage, though, might well just move me up a whole level in my own hierarchy of needs.
I think this review is great and Its about time!!! I look forward to the full piece. We have hunted for years with $100 to $150 scopes on 12 gauge shotguns, for deer, bear and turkey. Most of us have them mounted on pumps which take the full recoil of a slug. I've never had a problem with any of my scopes on these guns nor have any of my fellow hunting buddies. Most of the guys I know treat their equipment "average" meaning, nobody I know really beats the piss out of their equipment but nobody treats it like a glass egg either. BTW, the most expensive scope I own is a $200 Bushnell Elite 3200 and it is a very nice scope and that was a real splurge for me!!!!! I could afford more expensive glass but have never seen the need for it. I don't like super cheap junk either though. The outside edge on these cheap scopes is horrible. I'm glad to see the magazine is going to start considering reviews for real people now.
I've owned a few under $75.00, couple under $50.00 and held up and performed just as the big brands
Can't wait!
It's reviews like this and articles like hunting the big woods that is quickly making Hurteau one of my favorite writers and why I keep subscribing to F&S. He's right on my level. Thanks Dave!
Thank you, Newt, for the kind words.
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