


February 22, 2012
Nose Jammer Put To The Test, Part II

According to the rumor mill, there are some folks in the industry wondering, “What the heck does Hurteau have against Nose Jammer?” Not much, really. Other than the fact that it promises something that to me seems both patently ridiculous and empirically untrue, the stuff is innocuous enough and may indeed give hunters an advantage in the woods.
Yes, I do wish the marketers of scent-control products in particular would lay off the insultingly overblown claims; we all remember, as reader RS08 pointed out in the last post, “Forget the wind, just hunt.”
But the truth is, I was relieved to find, based on my tests, that Nose Jammer does not “Jam Big Game Animals’ Ability to Smell.” Thank goodness. If it did, I would have a much more serious objection. So as long as you take the can’s explicit claim with a grain of salt and buy it as a cover scent, I say God bless. Purchase it by the case and envelop yourself in a sweet cloud of vanillin.
But anyone who uses Nose Jammer believing it actually jams noses really should consider the fair-chase implications. It’s one thing to try to cover your own scent; it’s another to introduce an agent to the environment that handicaps the deer, depriving them of one of their most critical natural defenses. If that’s fair chase, maybe wildlife agencies—who are often keen on ways to harvest more deer—could start sponsoring trap-and-release programs to surgically remove deer noses, and we could finally put an end to this whole inconvenience of the sport requiring woodsmanship and skill. Yes, we’d have to take out their eyes and ears, too. But one thing at a time.
Meanwhile, to those of you using it as a cover scent, more power to you. Just don’t be upset if I show up at your stand asking for a cookie.
Comments (42)
Dave, I believe I speak for many when I say, THANK YOU for having the kahunas to call out these ridiculously false claims. It is nice to know you are not on somebody's payroll.
By the way, I have a product that completely gets rid of a deer's ability to see, hear and smell. It is called a broadhead.
Bravo!
I'm staunchly on your side on this one, Dave. I think it's possible to reduce your scent shadow, but not by a whole lot. I've been gullible enough to fall for the charcoal clothing and the spray on scent killers and I feel like I wasted my time and money. Even though I absolutely love Breyer's Vanilla Bean ice cream, I seriously doubt that I'll fool any deer by smelling like a bowl of it. Hunt the wind, watch your movement and be quiet.
I don't know if this stuff does anything. I've never used it, but I will give you kudos for stating your opinion and findings.
Thanks and keep it up.
Its kind of a placebo effect, if you think it works it works, Im sure we all do things that are superstitious when it comes to hunting that brings us luck.
buckhunter- I was just thinking the same thing!
It probably does "jam" the smelling power of deer, probably the same way gasoline" jams their nose.
Let me explain. A friend this past season was going hunting one cool morning and inadvertently had placed his work jacket in the back of his truck, which reeked of gasoline and oil. It was camoflauged the same way his hunting coat was.
He didn't realize it until he was two-thirds of the way to his tree stand when he smelled gas from his own coat. He wondered to himself and decided to "stuff" his gas ladened coat under a tree some distance from his stand.
Five minutes till ten a rather large buck passes his stand as if he was "spooked" by something or someone. He lowered the boom on the old bruiser as he was trying to avoid detection.
The buck had come from the direction where the coat had been placed. End of deer, end of story.
Dave, We should have a weekly or monthly product review. Too much stuff like Nose Jammer out there. F&S.com is a great test panel. And while we are at it, we should also judge the TV yahoos for their idiocy caught on film. Let's clean up this business.
Oh for the suckers that spend their hard earned dollars on these gimmics . Like P.T.Barnum said "There is a sucker born every minute" The people who make these products must have that saying framed upon the wall of their corporate offices. I have been suckered in my younger days but as the saying goes I'm too old of cat now to be sc##### by a kitten. Save your money and buy guns , bows, ammo and arrows.
An old MN trapper who has been running the woods longer than I have been alive summed it up for me when he said, "You can be scent free in the woods for as long as you can hold your breath."
Remember the Life cereal commercials? I'm a Mikey when it comes to Jammer. I tried it, and I like it. Came with a money back guarantee and none of my friends or myself would consider sending it back. Good stuff.
I'm with you Hurteau. Although maybe it's best to encourage people to use it and leave more deer for the rest of us. There are NO shortcuts to bow hunting. But people have made good money convincing others that the opposite is true.
Dave, have you ever come across a deer that you think hasn't seen a human before? I've had them come from down wind in open fields of tall grass and weeds, slowly advancing, stoping to smell, and then come closer. As long as we didn't move much, the deer kept coming. We continued out talking as the deer came within fifty feet of us. She wasn't afraid, just curious I would guess. She did not associate us with danger. I had another stand up and advance to my tree stand after I opened a thermos of hot coffee. Once up wind she turned around and came back until she could smell that coffee again.
"The funny thing is, if you read any of my post about Nose Jammer, nowhere do I say that it can't help you in the field. In fact, in the post above, I suggest that it can. Dave Herteau"
In your quote you sound like a politician. So which is it do you like it or not. I Have used it with great success and know many other industry people that use it and like it but don't publicly talk about because it conflicts with a sponsor of theirs. You either like it and it has had good results or you haven't had the opportunity to see it work and are looking for the reason or opportunity to make it look bad. Quite honestly i think that those of you who don't like it (and actually used it) should send it back, get your money back, and quit bitching. The company offers you an opportunity to try it at no risk except to ship it back. The next thing you will tell is you were just trying to help the sheep over the fence.
The problem that Mr. Herteau has with the product is that it is a cover sent and it doesn't jam anything.
it Doesn't "jam a big game animals ability to smell" He has stated several times it works fine as a cover sent. The problem is in the false advertising of componys that make this stuff. I refuse to by anything that says "sentblocker" on it, simply because it's a lie and i'm not paying $200 for a pair of pants, or $40 for gloves, and up to somting like $300 for a jacket or some overalls just because they are backed by Bull Sh*t claims and lies. If you like it and wan't to spend money on it feel free, I really don't care what you buy and don't buy. But I think I'll stick to watching my wind and my $60 coveralls from Academy.(the coveralls are probaly the most expensive cammo I own)
Thanks for puting this False advertiseing out their Dave.
Thank you, Big Country; you save me the trouble of having to repeat myself--again.
I'm sure I won't be popular with this, but here goes...
I think the makers of Nose Jammer made only one mistake, leaving out the word "YOU" at the end of their slogan. Or maybe they thought we were all INTELLIGENT enough to realize that that's what they were implying. (Guess they were wrong if that was the case)
Dave I feel you failed in the evaluation of the results of your "test". Nose Jammer claims to overload the sense of smell (olfactory sytem) of the whitetail, not remove it. Overload it to the point that the smells you put off are not as apparent to the deer. Isn't that what the majority of hunters try to do with camoflauge, scent away, scent-lock, etc., make themselves less noticable? I don't see how you came anywhere close to proving their statement false, just as you can't prove that the deer that WERE startled were so because of your scent.
If anything I think you proved their claims true, giving you the opportunity to shoot the deer, not for it to snuggle up with you in the stand. I've had many great experiences with vanilla as a curiosity scent, causing deer to stop dead in their tracks 100s of yards away, then make a bee-line right to the scent bomb. Seems all you have accomplished is to stir up all the "Haters" (those ready to lynch or banish anyone or anything that is perfectly legal, just what they personally don't like). Bring on the hate votes.
Dave,
First:
As user of the product and a man that makes his money hunting animals, I believe you have sadly mistaken the product for what it's worth. Nose Jammer has helped numerous clients get that extra few seconds they need to either release an arrow or pull the trigger.
Secondly:
It shames me to see somebody in the position of yourself bashing another company in the hunting industry. These types of products work for some hunters and others simply don't have great luck using them. Either way, the products bring money into the hunting industry and help preserve our sport. Your bashing does nothing but cause strife between people in the same industry and allows anti hunters additional ammunition for future battles.
Lastly:
It seems that one of your main points in this articles is that; if the product works as advertised, then we should question the ethics of fair chase. After reading this I could only assume that when you hunt deer, you chase them down on foot and kill them with your bare hands. In all my years of hunting I have never seen an animal use a mechanical device to aid itself in getting away from myself or any of my hunters, therefore if you use any type of mechanical device to aid yourself in killing an animal...well...you're not really hunting "fair" then either, are you?
Let us put things in perspective. A deer can smell a rubber boot print for at least an hour after the boot touched the ground. The boot rested on the ground for a brief second leaving nothing more than scent. This scent is measured at the molecular level. You cannot see it or feel it. Let us now compare a boot track to a living, breathing body of human flesh hanging from a tree. If a deer can smell a molecule, I wonder how well a deer can smell 175 lbs of human flesh?
Let us now discuss a deer's sense of smell. It is measure in parts per million. Not sure of the exact measurement but it's pretty good. Good enough to pick out a boot track among the leaves, dirt, trees, grasses and many other scents found in the woods. The nose of a deer is being constantly bombarded with different smells which occur naturally in nature. Will a cornfield or oak tree jam a deer's sense of smell? No. Easy question. How about a doe urine or fox urine? It's pretty vile stuff, much like vanillin, but still far from jamming the nose of a deer. How about a skunk? A much more potent smell than vanillin. A skunk cannot keep a deer from smelling other smells. Is vanillin special? No it is not. The thought of molecules blocking the nose of a deer so that he cannot smell 175 lbs of human flesh hanging from a tree is so outlandish, I cannot even respond.
The product itself backtracks on it's own claims. The claims range from jamming the sense to smell to momentarily confusing the animal for an extra second. Which is it? Heck, a fart can momentarily stop and confuse a deer. Some more than others.
The claims are insulting. We are not stupid. Some of you have obviously mistaken this site for Michael Waddell's fan page. Just go away and leave one of the final bastions of common sense hunting alone.
Wow.
Let's see I've actually sacrificed hunts to test theories out. True a deer will pick out an UNTREATED rubber boot print in a split second, but I have yet to have a deer with their nose to the ground be phased by my boot print after the boots have been sprayed down. Hundreds of deer don't lie. Can you fool a deer's nose? Most definitely you can! To think otherwise after seeing the proof over and over again would be foolish. (If you haven't tested it out yourself, try it.)
Can a deer's nose be OVERLOADED? Why not? If a skunk sprayed you in the face, could you smell the difference between a rose and apple pie, probably not, because your sense of smell would be overloaded!
Now put that 175 pound hunter in stand, if he treated himself with scent-a-way and used this product to overload the olfactory system of the deer, which by the way has around 297,000,000 receptors, it can be easily believable to "jam" the nose of the deer. I've had deer, downwind of me, walk within a few yards of me, (after spraying down with scent-a-way) when hunting from the ground, this has happened on a number of occasions. Deer are amazing creatures, not invincible. They CAN be fooled. To think otherwise wouldn't be using COMMON SENSE!
Go away??
So "common sense hunting" is to narrowmindly bash something not given a fair unbias trial?
Wow.
Let's see I've actually sacrificed hunts to test theories out. True a deer will pick out an UNTREATED rubber boot print in a split second, but I have yet to have a deer with their nose to the ground be phased by my boot print after the boots have been sprayed down. Hundreds of deer don't lie. Can you fool a deer's nose? Most definitely you can! To think otherwise after seeing the proof over and over again would be foolish. (If you haven't tested it out yourself, try it.)
Can a deer's nose be OVERLOADED? Why not? If a skunk sprayed you in the face, could you smell the difference between a rose and apple pie, probably not, because your sense of smell would be overloaded!
Now put that 175 pound hunter in stand, if he treated himself with scent-a-way and used this product to overload the olfactory system of the deer, which by the way has around 297,000,000 receptors, it can be easily believable to "jam" the nose of the deer. I've had deer, downwind of me, walk within a few yards of me, (after spraying down with scent-a-way) when hunting from the ground, this has happened on a number of occasions. Deer are amazing creatures, not invincible. They CAN be fooled. To think otherwise wouldn't be using COMMON SENSE!
Go away??
So "common sense hunting" is to narrowmindly bash something not given a fair unbias trial?
TXOUT,
Thanks for your opinion.
On your first point, I have said repeatedly--again and again--that Nose Jammer may indeed be helpful in the field. That you client have been helped does not shock me.
Your second point I I honestly find flabbergasting; you seem to be suggesting that anyone in the industry, no matter what they say or do, should be immune to honest criticism because they are in the industry. Wow. That, I feel, is very scary prospect.
On your last point, I respectfully disagree and stand by what I said. I don't know why you should think I run down deer on foot and kill them with my bare hands when I have said explicitly that I'm fine with the product's use as a cover scent.
Oops. Sorry for the typos. In a bit of rush this morning...
Dave,
I think you should have poll done for those who have ACTUALLY USED the product, whether it lived up to the claims. Seems to be the majority of one commenting are the ones who don't want new ideas out there, or are the "In my day...thats the way it was, thats the way we liked it" crotchity old men hunters that think something different is from the devil.
Try, to have a unbias poll. TRY?
After all this I'm gonna try Nose Jammer out next year, have had EXTREMELY EXCELLENT fortune with vanilla scent bombs. If it can make my human scent a little less noticable, might be worth it. We'll see.
If a skunk sprayed me in the face? Are you saying we have to spray a deer in the face with this stuff to get it to work? This product is nothing more than an odor. The "jamming" part is complete BS. Like I said before, any smell can stop a deer for a second.
Do not compare my sense of smell to that of a deer. It is like comparing a canoe to the Titanic.
I find your last comment the most interesting. "narrowmindly bash something not given a fair unbias trial?" Besides being a plea to sell product, it is also an assumption that I have no experience with whitetail deer. For which you are dead wrong.
I am not bashing your product. It is your insistent assumption that we are a bunch of gullible redneck's which is wearing on my nerves.
Buckhunter,
All I can say is that I used it and it works great.
One of the most convincing things I saw this past season while using Nose Jammer was 2 coyotes downwind at 60 yards for 45 minutes while I was bowhunting; they were trying to get a smell of something, anything, and they simply could not.
Buckhunter,
Have you used this product?
No. I have not used this product. Not in the habit of going against my judgement and experience.
Buckhunter,
"The claims are insulting. We are not stupid. Some of you have obviously mistaken this site for Michael Waddell's fan page. Just go away and leave one of the final bastions of common sense hunting alone."
"THANK YOU for having the kahunas to call out these ridiculously false claims."
Seems to be some ironic comments coming from somebody without any actual experience with the product. Give it a chance and it might change your mind.
I have never used your product but I know deer.
Wow, you know deer that well? Scienctist devote their whole lives to the study of whitetail and continue to learn things that were not understood or unknown before. But you obviously know more. Until you try it, your opinion is worth squat.
Dave,
Lets have a poll of those that have ACTUALLY USED Nose Jammer. Not those who haven't and think they know it all!
I'm certainly not opposed to a poll, if we could figure out how to do it right. It's trickier that it may seem on its face. First, we would have no way to prevent those who have not used it from responding. Second, people who spend money on a product are somewhat predisposed to think favorably of it, as a justification of their decision and expenditure. So it wouldn't be exactly unbiased.
I would prefer to buy a bunch of it and give it out to readers randomly. Then they could report back.
I purchase products on a routine bases to try them out in the woods. I am always curious about what is being sold to hunters. This is not my livelihood or my business. I just hunt that much. I love testing broadheads. Have purchased dozens of brands over the years just for my own personal use. I test them on the range and in the woods. I do all sorts of silly things with them to test accuracy and strength. It is easy to tell a good broadhead from a bad one.
The problem with me testing your product is that I use no scent control products or materials and I hardly wear camouflage. I also own several nice bows but more often than not I am in the woods with my stick-and-string. By industry standards, I should not be a very successful hunter. But I am. Regardless of my success, you will argue I could have been more successful using your product. If I am not successful you will argue it is due to my lack of scent control. There will never be black and white on this issue.
The reason I have not purchased your product is because I do not need it or want it. It is my experience that any strange odor which alerts deer is not good in the woods. As an experienced bowhunter, I know better than to shoot at an alert deer. Once the deer is downwind and smells anything, it's game over. Do not shoot at that deer. You will never be guaranteed where that arrow will hit.
Dave, Let us do this. I live in the middle of the best whitetail country anywhere. I will buy this stuff and test it, giving only you the results. Whether you wish to share them with the readers or not will be up to you.
I have a strong feeling the result will be the same as yours but if I happen to have anything positive to say about the stuff, Nose Jammer Inc. can consider it a victory. I'll even let them put "Buckhunter Approved" on the can.
Buckhunter,
I never meant to insult your hunting skills or how you choose to hunt. I have a problem when individuals form and voice strong opinions on things they have never used or choose never to use. Especially when others have been successful with it. Don't knock it til you've tried it. I'll never know everthing about whitetail and can be pretty safe to say no one out there knows absolutely EVERYTHING about whitetail, as mentioned earlier we're continually learning.
As far as you trying it out, thats fine go for it, but from your comments you've made your mind up before you've even purchased it.
Like I said before. I love doing this stuff. Just another reason to hit the woods. I will film the reactions of the deer and let others decide.
Have ordered my can of Nose Jammer and have purchased scent elimination products. It will take a week or so before I get my can. Stay tuned. I'm excited and hope you are too.
I just finished reading all the comments about Nose Jammer product, which I've never heard of. About nine years ago after spraying down with earth scent, I went to hunting stand. About thirty minutes later a small buck and three does came in and crossed my path three differnt times, each time stopping with an alert. I talked with my brother, he told me about a friend that had recently taken an elk and deer using Brand X as a cover scent. I thought about an article I had read about thirty years ago in a hunting magazine, hunter was using Brand X, but I never tried it. The next evening after spraying down with Brand X that I had purchased, went to same tree using same route as the day before. A few minutes later the small buck and does came off the hill and crossed my path three times and never reacted in any way. They fed under my stand a while and left. A bobcat came in the same way and set in front of stand about twenty feet away and never reacted in any way, he made a pretty mount. After using Brand X for nine years I have seen a lot of deer and taken some. I can't say the deer don't smell you, but my experience has been they don't blow and run away. My Brand X that I bought at Sam's was Vanilla Xtract, it does not stink like all the other urine's that I have used before. I tried different brands, the last few years I have used La Venceadora Vanilla that I purchased off of ebay. I mix with water and use a spray bottle. I spray everything down with it and so simple to use. Works for me!
I would love to know who died and made "buckhunter" king? You claim that you never tried the product but have always put in your "2 cents". I think you been using the product all year with great success and don't want to admitt it. I know I been using the product and had countless encounters with mature whitetails DOWNWIND and not alarmed within bow range and I have them hanging on the wall to prove it. People, this is really a simple fix. If you really and truely never tried the product then you really shouldn't have anything to comment on. I'm pretty sure they offer your money back if you are not satisfied. Holy cow, some of you sound like a bunch of kids.
I am not a king. Just the average bowhunter who is tired of the constant barrage of promising claims of success. I usually just ignore things like this but you guys are so persistent.
If you have confidence in your product, you will welcome my interest with open arms and eagerly await the results of my test.
The product is on order. I have employed a production company. This will be a YouTube style film showing the reaction of deer as they smell the product. If Nose Jammer wishes to make suggestions, I am all ears.
This is in no way related to F&S.com. Doing all of this on my own. F&S.com probably won't even allow me to post it on this site. I will however be happy to share the results by posting a video on YouTube.
This will take at least a month. Please be patient.
Add that to the list of everything else!
kinda late to respond but i'd be willing to bet some of these folks defending jammer have something at stake with the company. i find jammer a joke
My buddy and I gave nose jammer a try last year and had horrible results! This stuff does NOT work, deer spooked farther away than they would have if we had used nothing.I would NOT reccomend this product to anyone!
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Dave, I believe I speak for many when I say, THANK YOU for having the kahunas to call out these ridiculously false claims. It is nice to know you are not on somebody's payroll.
By the way, I have a product that completely gets rid of a deer's ability to see, hear and smell. It is called a broadhead.
I'm staunchly on your side on this one, Dave. I think it's possible to reduce your scent shadow, but not by a whole lot. I've been gullible enough to fall for the charcoal clothing and the spray on scent killers and I feel like I wasted my time and money. Even though I absolutely love Breyer's Vanilla Bean ice cream, I seriously doubt that I'll fool any deer by smelling like a bowl of it. Hunt the wind, watch your movement and be quiet.
Dave, have you ever come across a deer that you think hasn't seen a human before? I've had them come from down wind in open fields of tall grass and weeds, slowly advancing, stoping to smell, and then come closer. As long as we didn't move much, the deer kept coming. We continued out talking as the deer came within fifty feet of us. She wasn't afraid, just curious I would guess. She did not associate us with danger. I had another stand up and advance to my tree stand after I opened a thermos of hot coffee. Once up wind she turned around and came back until she could smell that coffee again.
Thank you, Big Country; you save me the trouble of having to repeat myself--again.
I'm sure I won't be popular with this, but here goes...
I think the makers of Nose Jammer made only one mistake, leaving out the word "YOU" at the end of their slogan. Or maybe they thought we were all INTELLIGENT enough to realize that that's what they were implying. (Guess they were wrong if that was the case)
Dave I feel you failed in the evaluation of the results of your "test". Nose Jammer claims to overload the sense of smell (olfactory sytem) of the whitetail, not remove it. Overload it to the point that the smells you put off are not as apparent to the deer. Isn't that what the majority of hunters try to do with camoflauge, scent away, scent-lock, etc., make themselves less noticable? I don't see how you came anywhere close to proving their statement false, just as you can't prove that the deer that WERE startled were so because of your scent.
If anything I think you proved their claims true, giving you the opportunity to shoot the deer, not for it to snuggle up with you in the stand. I've had many great experiences with vanilla as a curiosity scent, causing deer to stop dead in their tracks 100s of yards away, then make a bee-line right to the scent bomb. Seems all you have accomplished is to stir up all the "Haters" (those ready to lynch or banish anyone or anything that is perfectly legal, just what they personally don't like). Bring on the hate votes.
Dave,
First:
As user of the product and a man that makes his money hunting animals, I believe you have sadly mistaken the product for what it's worth. Nose Jammer has helped numerous clients get that extra few seconds they need to either release an arrow or pull the trigger.
Secondly:
It shames me to see somebody in the position of yourself bashing another company in the hunting industry. These types of products work for some hunters and others simply don't have great luck using them. Either way, the products bring money into the hunting industry and help preserve our sport. Your bashing does nothing but cause strife between people in the same industry and allows anti hunters additional ammunition for future battles.
Lastly:
It seems that one of your main points in this articles is that; if the product works as advertised, then we should question the ethics of fair chase. After reading this I could only assume that when you hunt deer, you chase them down on foot and kill them with your bare hands. In all my years of hunting I have never seen an animal use a mechanical device to aid itself in getting away from myself or any of my hunters, therefore if you use any type of mechanical device to aid yourself in killing an animal...well...you're not really hunting "fair" then either, are you?
Bravo!
I don't know if this stuff does anything. I've never used it, but I will give you kudos for stating your opinion and findings.
Thanks and keep it up.
Its kind of a placebo effect, if you think it works it works, Im sure we all do things that are superstitious when it comes to hunting that brings us luck.
buckhunter- I was just thinking the same thing!
It probably does "jam" the smelling power of deer, probably the same way gasoline" jams their nose.
Let me explain. A friend this past season was going hunting one cool morning and inadvertently had placed his work jacket in the back of his truck, which reeked of gasoline and oil. It was camoflauged the same way his hunting coat was.
He didn't realize it until he was two-thirds of the way to his tree stand when he smelled gas from his own coat. He wondered to himself and decided to "stuff" his gas ladened coat under a tree some distance from his stand.
Five minutes till ten a rather large buck passes his stand as if he was "spooked" by something or someone. He lowered the boom on the old bruiser as he was trying to avoid detection.
The buck had come from the direction where the coat had been placed. End of deer, end of story.
Dave, We should have a weekly or monthly product review. Too much stuff like Nose Jammer out there. F&S.com is a great test panel. And while we are at it, we should also judge the TV yahoos for their idiocy caught on film. Let's clean up this business.
Oh for the suckers that spend their hard earned dollars on these gimmics . Like P.T.Barnum said "There is a sucker born every minute" The people who make these products must have that saying framed upon the wall of their corporate offices. I have been suckered in my younger days but as the saying goes I'm too old of cat now to be sc##### by a kitten. Save your money and buy guns , bows, ammo and arrows.
An old MN trapper who has been running the woods longer than I have been alive summed it up for me when he said, "You can be scent free in the woods for as long as you can hold your breath."
Remember the Life cereal commercials? I'm a Mikey when it comes to Jammer. I tried it, and I like it. Came with a money back guarantee and none of my friends or myself would consider sending it back. Good stuff.
I'm with you Hurteau. Although maybe it's best to encourage people to use it and leave more deer for the rest of us. There are NO shortcuts to bow hunting. But people have made good money convincing others that the opposite is true.
"The funny thing is, if you read any of my post about Nose Jammer, nowhere do I say that it can't help you in the field. In fact, in the post above, I suggest that it can. Dave Herteau"
In your quote you sound like a politician. So which is it do you like it or not. I Have used it with great success and know many other industry people that use it and like it but don't publicly talk about because it conflicts with a sponsor of theirs. You either like it and it has had good results or you haven't had the opportunity to see it work and are looking for the reason or opportunity to make it look bad. Quite honestly i think that those of you who don't like it (and actually used it) should send it back, get your money back, and quit bitching. The company offers you an opportunity to try it at no risk except to ship it back. The next thing you will tell is you were just trying to help the sheep over the fence.
The problem that Mr. Herteau has with the product is that it is a cover sent and it doesn't jam anything.
it Doesn't "jam a big game animals ability to smell" He has stated several times it works fine as a cover sent. The problem is in the false advertising of componys that make this stuff. I refuse to by anything that says "sentblocker" on it, simply because it's a lie and i'm not paying $200 for a pair of pants, or $40 for gloves, and up to somting like $300 for a jacket or some overalls just because they are backed by Bull Sh*t claims and lies. If you like it and wan't to spend money on it feel free, I really don't care what you buy and don't buy. But I think I'll stick to watching my wind and my $60 coveralls from Academy.(the coveralls are probaly the most expensive cammo I own)
Thanks for puting this False advertiseing out their Dave.
Let us put things in perspective. A deer can smell a rubber boot print for at least an hour after the boot touched the ground. The boot rested on the ground for a brief second leaving nothing more than scent. This scent is measured at the molecular level. You cannot see it or feel it. Let us now compare a boot track to a living, breathing body of human flesh hanging from a tree. If a deer can smell a molecule, I wonder how well a deer can smell 175 lbs of human flesh?
Let us now discuss a deer's sense of smell. It is measure in parts per million. Not sure of the exact measurement but it's pretty good. Good enough to pick out a boot track among the leaves, dirt, trees, grasses and many other scents found in the woods. The nose of a deer is being constantly bombarded with different smells which occur naturally in nature. Will a cornfield or oak tree jam a deer's sense of smell? No. Easy question. How about a doe urine or fox urine? It's pretty vile stuff, much like vanillin, but still far from jamming the nose of a deer. How about a skunk? A much more potent smell than vanillin. A skunk cannot keep a deer from smelling other smells. Is vanillin special? No it is not. The thought of molecules blocking the nose of a deer so that he cannot smell 175 lbs of human flesh hanging from a tree is so outlandish, I cannot even respond.
The product itself backtracks on it's own claims. The claims range from jamming the sense to smell to momentarily confusing the animal for an extra second. Which is it? Heck, a fart can momentarily stop and confuse a deer. Some more than others.
The claims are insulting. We are not stupid. Some of you have obviously mistaken this site for Michael Waddell's fan page. Just go away and leave one of the final bastions of common sense hunting alone.
Wow.
Let's see I've actually sacrificed hunts to test theories out. True a deer will pick out an UNTREATED rubber boot print in a split second, but I have yet to have a deer with their nose to the ground be phased by my boot print after the boots have been sprayed down. Hundreds of deer don't lie. Can you fool a deer's nose? Most definitely you can! To think otherwise after seeing the proof over and over again would be foolish. (If you haven't tested it out yourself, try it.)
Can a deer's nose be OVERLOADED? Why not? If a skunk sprayed you in the face, could you smell the difference between a rose and apple pie, probably not, because your sense of smell would be overloaded!
Now put that 175 pound hunter in stand, if he treated himself with scent-a-way and used this product to overload the olfactory system of the deer, which by the way has around 297,000,000 receptors, it can be easily believable to "jam" the nose of the deer. I've had deer, downwind of me, walk within a few yards of me, (after spraying down with scent-a-way) when hunting from the ground, this has happened on a number of occasions. Deer are amazing creatures, not invincible. They CAN be fooled. To think otherwise wouldn't be using COMMON SENSE!
Go away??
So "common sense hunting" is to narrowmindly bash something not given a fair unbias trial?
Wow.
Let's see I've actually sacrificed hunts to test theories out. True a deer will pick out an UNTREATED rubber boot print in a split second, but I have yet to have a deer with their nose to the ground be phased by my boot print after the boots have been sprayed down. Hundreds of deer don't lie. Can you fool a deer's nose? Most definitely you can! To think otherwise after seeing the proof over and over again would be foolish. (If you haven't tested it out yourself, try it.)
Can a deer's nose be OVERLOADED? Why not? If a skunk sprayed you in the face, could you smell the difference between a rose and apple pie, probably not, because your sense of smell would be overloaded!
Now put that 175 pound hunter in stand, if he treated himself with scent-a-way and used this product to overload the olfactory system of the deer, which by the way has around 297,000,000 receptors, it can be easily believable to "jam" the nose of the deer. I've had deer, downwind of me, walk within a few yards of me, (after spraying down with scent-a-way) when hunting from the ground, this has happened on a number of occasions. Deer are amazing creatures, not invincible. They CAN be fooled. To think otherwise wouldn't be using COMMON SENSE!
Go away??
So "common sense hunting" is to narrowmindly bash something not given a fair unbias trial?
TXOUT,
Thanks for your opinion.
On your first point, I have said repeatedly--again and again--that Nose Jammer may indeed be helpful in the field. That you client have been helped does not shock me.
Your second point I I honestly find flabbergasting; you seem to be suggesting that anyone in the industry, no matter what they say or do, should be immune to honest criticism because they are in the industry. Wow. That, I feel, is very scary prospect.
On your last point, I respectfully disagree and stand by what I said. I don't know why you should think I run down deer on foot and kill them with my bare hands when I have said explicitly that I'm fine with the product's use as a cover scent.
Oops. Sorry for the typos. In a bit of rush this morning...
Dave,
I think you should have poll done for those who have ACTUALLY USED the product, whether it lived up to the claims. Seems to be the majority of one commenting are the ones who don't want new ideas out there, or are the "In my day...thats the way it was, thats the way we liked it" crotchity old men hunters that think something different is from the devil.
Try, to have a unbias poll. TRY?
After all this I'm gonna try Nose Jammer out next year, have had EXTREMELY EXCELLENT fortune with vanilla scent bombs. If it can make my human scent a little less noticable, might be worth it. We'll see.
If a skunk sprayed me in the face? Are you saying we have to spray a deer in the face with this stuff to get it to work? This product is nothing more than an odor. The "jamming" part is complete BS. Like I said before, any smell can stop a deer for a second.
Do not compare my sense of smell to that of a deer. It is like comparing a canoe to the Titanic.
I find your last comment the most interesting. "narrowmindly bash something not given a fair unbias trial?" Besides being a plea to sell product, it is also an assumption that I have no experience with whitetail deer. For which you are dead wrong.
I am not bashing your product. It is your insistent assumption that we are a bunch of gullible redneck's which is wearing on my nerves.
Buckhunter,
All I can say is that I used it and it works great.
One of the most convincing things I saw this past season while using Nose Jammer was 2 coyotes downwind at 60 yards for 45 minutes while I was bowhunting; they were trying to get a smell of something, anything, and they simply could not.
Buckhunter,
Have you used this product?
No. I have not used this product. Not in the habit of going against my judgement and experience.
Buckhunter,
"The claims are insulting. We are not stupid. Some of you have obviously mistaken this site for Michael Waddell's fan page. Just go away and leave one of the final bastions of common sense hunting alone."
"THANK YOU for having the kahunas to call out these ridiculously false claims."
Seems to be some ironic comments coming from somebody without any actual experience with the product. Give it a chance and it might change your mind.
I have never used your product but I know deer.
Wow, you know deer that well? Scienctist devote their whole lives to the study of whitetail and continue to learn things that were not understood or unknown before. But you obviously know more. Until you try it, your opinion is worth squat.
Dave,
Lets have a poll of those that have ACTUALLY USED Nose Jammer. Not those who haven't and think they know it all!
I'm certainly not opposed to a poll, if we could figure out how to do it right. It's trickier that it may seem on its face. First, we would have no way to prevent those who have not used it from responding. Second, people who spend money on a product are somewhat predisposed to think favorably of it, as a justification of their decision and expenditure. So it wouldn't be exactly unbiased.
I would prefer to buy a bunch of it and give it out to readers randomly. Then they could report back.
I purchase products on a routine bases to try them out in the woods. I am always curious about what is being sold to hunters. This is not my livelihood or my business. I just hunt that much. I love testing broadheads. Have purchased dozens of brands over the years just for my own personal use. I test them on the range and in the woods. I do all sorts of silly things with them to test accuracy and strength. It is easy to tell a good broadhead from a bad one.
The problem with me testing your product is that I use no scent control products or materials and I hardly wear camouflage. I also own several nice bows but more often than not I am in the woods with my stick-and-string. By industry standards, I should not be a very successful hunter. But I am. Regardless of my success, you will argue I could have been more successful using your product. If I am not successful you will argue it is due to my lack of scent control. There will never be black and white on this issue.
The reason I have not purchased your product is because I do not need it or want it. It is my experience that any strange odor which alerts deer is not good in the woods. As an experienced bowhunter, I know better than to shoot at an alert deer. Once the deer is downwind and smells anything, it's game over. Do not shoot at that deer. You will never be guaranteed where that arrow will hit.
Dave, Let us do this. I live in the middle of the best whitetail country anywhere. I will buy this stuff and test it, giving only you the results. Whether you wish to share them with the readers or not will be up to you.
I have a strong feeling the result will be the same as yours but if I happen to have anything positive to say about the stuff, Nose Jammer Inc. can consider it a victory. I'll even let them put "Buckhunter Approved" on the can.
Buckhunter,
I never meant to insult your hunting skills or how you choose to hunt. I have a problem when individuals form and voice strong opinions on things they have never used or choose never to use. Especially when others have been successful with it. Don't knock it til you've tried it. I'll never know everthing about whitetail and can be pretty safe to say no one out there knows absolutely EVERYTHING about whitetail, as mentioned earlier we're continually learning.
As far as you trying it out, thats fine go for it, but from your comments you've made your mind up before you've even purchased it.
Like I said before. I love doing this stuff. Just another reason to hit the woods. I will film the reactions of the deer and let others decide.
Have ordered my can of Nose Jammer and have purchased scent elimination products. It will take a week or so before I get my can. Stay tuned. I'm excited and hope you are too.
I just finished reading all the comments about Nose Jammer product, which I've never heard of. About nine years ago after spraying down with earth scent, I went to hunting stand. About thirty minutes later a small buck and three does came in and crossed my path three differnt times, each time stopping with an alert. I talked with my brother, he told me about a friend that had recently taken an elk and deer using Brand X as a cover scent. I thought about an article I had read about thirty years ago in a hunting magazine, hunter was using Brand X, but I never tried it. The next evening after spraying down with Brand X that I had purchased, went to same tree using same route as the day before. A few minutes later the small buck and does came off the hill and crossed my path three times and never reacted in any way. They fed under my stand a while and left. A bobcat came in the same way and set in front of stand about twenty feet away and never reacted in any way, he made a pretty mount. After using Brand X for nine years I have seen a lot of deer and taken some. I can't say the deer don't smell you, but my experience has been they don't blow and run away. My Brand X that I bought at Sam's was Vanilla Xtract, it does not stink like all the other urine's that I have used before. I tried different brands, the last few years I have used La Venceadora Vanilla that I purchased off of ebay. I mix with water and use a spray bottle. I spray everything down with it and so simple to use. Works for me!
I would love to know who died and made "buckhunter" king? You claim that you never tried the product but have always put in your "2 cents". I think you been using the product all year with great success and don't want to admitt it. I know I been using the product and had countless encounters with mature whitetails DOWNWIND and not alarmed within bow range and I have them hanging on the wall to prove it. People, this is really a simple fix. If you really and truely never tried the product then you really shouldn't have anything to comment on. I'm pretty sure they offer your money back if you are not satisfied. Holy cow, some of you sound like a bunch of kids.
I am not a king. Just the average bowhunter who is tired of the constant barrage of promising claims of success. I usually just ignore things like this but you guys are so persistent.
If you have confidence in your product, you will welcome my interest with open arms and eagerly await the results of my test.
The product is on order. I have employed a production company. This will be a YouTube style film showing the reaction of deer as they smell the product. If Nose Jammer wishes to make suggestions, I am all ears.
This is in no way related to F&S.com. Doing all of this on my own. F&S.com probably won't even allow me to post it on this site. I will however be happy to share the results by posting a video on YouTube.
This will take at least a month. Please be patient.
Add that to the list of everything else!
kinda late to respond but i'd be willing to bet some of these folks defending jammer have something at stake with the company. i find jammer a joke
My buddy and I gave nose jammer a try last year and had horrible results! This stuff does NOT work, deer spooked farther away than they would have if we had used nothing.I would NOT reccomend this product to anyone!
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