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January 28, 2013

F&S Poll: How Long Should You Wait To Blood Trail a Bow Buck?

By Scott Bestul

When all is right in the world, recovering a bow-killed buck is as simple as walking to the spot where you watched him tip over. Just about other situation, however, is complicated by a variety of factors: the suspected shot placement, impending weather and temperature, the presence of predators…. “How long?” can indeed be one of the toughest questions faced by a bowhunter.

So here’s the scenario: You’re on an early-season whitetail hunt. With about a half hour of legal light left, a nice buck walks into your shooting lane at 25 yards. Your shot looks to be in the center of the deer vertically but enough into the mid-body horizontally that it might be a gut or liver hit. You watch the buck runs off and disappears over the backside of a hill. You get down from your stand and find good-sized drops of bright red blood, but no arrow. You follow the trail a short ways, but the sign doesn’t get any better. The temperature is 60 degrees and is expected to drop only 10 degrees overnight. There are coyotes in the area, though not in great numbers.

Based on this information, how long would you wait?

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from Ncarl wrote 19 weeks 5 days ago

hmm, Im surprised that more people didnt go with 6 hours. It was my understanding that a liver hit deer will die it just might take him 7 or 8 hours.

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from buckhunter wrote 19 weeks 5 days ago

Yep, a liver shot will take 6 hours and the deer will remain very mobile in those 6 hours. He'll stop bleeding quickly so it's best to keep him near. Come back at midnight and if you bump him once, come back in the morning. Be very slow and quiet while tracking.

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from walmsley wrote 19 weeks 5 days ago

Overnight! 8 hours Min! You jump him and the coyotes will eat ALL of him instead of just a little bit! And Scott: HUGE mistake to get down and "Follow the trail a short ways"! But you know that buddy! HeeHee!

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from steve182 wrote 19 weeks 5 days ago

I recovered a liver hit deer twenty or 30 minutes later this year. I wasn't rushing, i climbed down and tip-toed over to my arrow on my way out of the woods to back out. The blood trail was very pronounce. He was laying about 40 or 50 yds down the trail.

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from steve182 wrote 19 weeks 5 days ago

I must clarify though. I do not reccommend going after a questionably hit deer for at least a couple to few hours. A bumped wounded deer can and will often go a long way.

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from hermit crab wrote 19 weeks 5 days ago

Agree with Buckhunter. There's some big blood vessels leading to/from the Liver. Hit one of them and it'd bleed out real quick, but if hit liver without any major arteries/veins or even nick it, it may take a long time to bleed out if it does at all, and alot of that blood may stay in the body cavity. Better to wait it out and not risk jumping a deer that's may not bleed outside its body much...

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from themadflyfisher wrote 19 weeks 5 days ago

This year I liver shot a doe in the evening. waited about 45 min. then climbed out of the tree walked the 100 yards to where my 4 wheeler was got out a spot light that I use for coon hunting and slowly started on the deer by the time I got to the shot site it had been about 2 hours. the deer had circled my stand and was only 50 yards away bedded. I jumped her almost imediately and she took off down a ridiculously steep hill covered with laurel. To make a long story short I ended up finding her the next morning a LONG ways from my stand on a creek bank (I couldn't believe it! I was just about to give up on her).
I voted B because that's what I did. But if it happens again I'm just going to back out and come back in the middle of the night or morning.

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from Chewylouie wrote 19 weeks 5 days ago

I haven't done much bow hunting, but I voted for the one that was closest to what i would do. If the deer runs out of sight then you don't have to worry about the deer seeing you, but if he is alive he can smell/hear you.If you very quietly track to the to top the hill, as quickly as you can (light is running out), then just barely look over to see if you see the deer. If you don't see it keep following very quietly and listen hard for movement. In my experience, if a deer stops to rest, and lays down then they will bleed, and sometime flop their tail. If you do see it, then get comfortable and just wait unless you can tell it is dead. Depending on how much light you have left, you could try to shoot it again if you have a shot. I hunt with a recurve, so I wouldn't take another shot, even if I had another shot. Once again, I haven't done much bow hunting and I have never killed a deer with a bow, but this is what I would do.

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from Mark-O wrote 19 weeks 5 days ago

The temperature is 60 at the time of the shot. Makes it tough. I'd probably vote for a much longer time if the weather were a little cooler, but there's a good probability the meat will spoil if I don't recover the animal soon. So, I voted for one hour for that reason. Given colder weather, I'm in favor of waiting longer.

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from 24scottk wrote 19 weeks 4 days ago

I'm sure everybody that has participated in this poll is a capable bow hunter, so for that reason I was shocked to see that 55% said they'd pursue a deer THEY KNOW they didn't double lung in just one hour. I'm in the "deer business" and I've tracked hundreds of wounded deer in the last ten years, and rarely will I find a liver shot deer dead in under several hours. One hour...bad idea in my opinion.

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from gijustin wrote 19 weeks 4 days ago

The problem is the temperature. Being 60 degrees, it won't take long for that meat to spoil, especially if it was a gut shot.

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from Silverback wrote 19 weeks 4 days ago

I say, sneak out. Go home and have dinner. Get a good luck kiss on the cheek from someone (usually my daughter) and head back out. 3 or so hours. If you have a friend, bring them. BRING YOUR BOW !! If you jusp it, back out and its at least 2 more hours till you go back. If you dont have time to do this. Dont shoot.

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from buckhunter wrote 19 weeks 4 days ago

24scottK, I to am mildly shocked with the 55% with answer B.

I think some are over looking the 10 degree drop in temperature. Granted, 60 degree air will not hold much moisture but anytime the temperature drops over night there is a good possibility of dew on the grass in the morning hindering tracking.

Another issue is the arrow is still in the animal. This will limit your blood trail. It is always best to keep an animal close when blood is slim.

Since the animal disappeared over the hill, I would inspect the location where the animal was standing. If there are two tufts of hair, the arrow is sticking out the other side. One tuft of hair, you did not get a pass through. If the tufts are evenly between the front and the rear hoof print, you did hit center of body. The hoof print will also tell you the angle of the body when the arrow entered the body. The length of hair will tell you how high you hit on the body.

This type of scene investigation should be done on all shots because it is the fletching you see traveling towards the deer and not the broadhead. You cannot always assume they hit the same place.

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from Ontario Honker ... wrote 19 weeks 4 days ago

First of all, the liver is a very large organ, depending on the species it can be the largest organ. Saying that it's hit through the liver really can mean many different scenarios. My dad shot a cow elk through the liver with 30-06 quartering away downhill, knocked her off her feet, and she never got up. She was seventy yards away at most. Dead by the time we walked down to her. I shot a very nice whitetail buck in the liver with 165 grain 30-06 and he ran off without leaving a drop of blood. Only by the grace of God did I happen to stumble on the thing later in the day as I was packing out a muley doe on my back. You just never know.

At that time of day follow the track immediately and for as long as possible. Leave flagging when there's no light left and pick up the trail when you have light. Honestly, no one should be out hunting without a light source in their pack anyway, and certainly not at the end of the day. Leaving a deer overnight in those temps is asking for trouble even if no coyotes were in the area. Bacteria ruins a lot more meat than those little dogs. Personally, I think anyone who takes a bow shot at dusk that isn't anything but a sure thing fatal doesn't know their business. Take the dicey shots in the morning. Get out of the stand by late afternoon if you're not real good at what your doing. I muffed more than a few late in the day shots with rifle over the years but never lost an animal. I tracked them all immediately.

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from Drover1 wrote 19 weeks 4 days ago

I’ve heard so many stories like this in real life, and stories of trails lost in the dark, deer left overnight etc., that I wonder whether more bow hunters should call it quits a couple hours before sunset. I know that would cut out some of the best hunting time, but it could reduce the number of deer hit and lost, or found the next day after the meat is spoiled, especially in warm archery seasons.

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from Tom-Tom wrote 19 weeks 4 days ago

According to the manager at the local locker, the meat will begin to spoil at a temperature of 55 degrees and above. How long it would take for a dead deer to internally cool below 55 in 50 degree weather wouldjust be a guess. If the deer was hit between 6 and 7 pm, I would not want to start my search until daylight rather than try it at 3-4am. As for the coyotes, they gotta' eat too. If they bump that deer, they won't wait to take up the chase. And if you hunt long enough, you are going to find yourself in this position at some point.

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from Gtbigsky wrote 19 weeks 4 days ago

I have been in the same situation and have always felt its best to let them bed down and give them 6+ hours and then take up the trail. With a rifle it is a different story because of the damage caused by hydrostatic shock to surrounding soft tissue

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from Bwana Hunter wrote 19 weeks 3 days ago

For all deer species, and elk - We follow it up immediately having learned what a pack of wolves and even coyotes can do to the quarry in a very short span of time.

Now Gents, when the creature is armed themselves with formidable teeth, claws, horns, size, and lightning speed - "we'll take up the spoor first thing again in the morning". To which the trackers and clients nod soberly while peering into the oncoming gloom of the bush, and tightly murmur - "yes, lets do that..!"

Best/Bwana

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from deerhunterrick wrote 19 weeks 3 days ago

if you had read the article a little more closely it stated "Bright Red Blood" a liver shot would have been darker and sticky. Bright Red usuallu means a main artiery or air in the blood as would bubbles and pink foamy blood. With the temps in the 60's and only going down 10 degrees with the presence of coyotes the deer would have either been eaten within a few hundred yards or the meat would have been bad. Given the bright red blood I would not have even waited an hour. 30 minutes in the treestand and a call for an extra tracker would have been plenty of time. A gunshot would have been another story, Smaller entrance and exit would would have plugged up with a liver shot because of the fat content in the blood. An arrow that stays inside a running deer is like a meat slicer.It cuts more tissue and blood vessels with every movement. The deer would have drowned in it's own blood within a hundred yards

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from hermit crab wrote 19 weeks 3 days ago

Deerhunterrick:
I don't think you'd get bubbles and/or foamy blood unless it's a hit in the lungs. I went back and reread the scenario. "good-sized drops of bright red blood" is pretty subjective, but if it's a liver hit, it must've got a pretty good artery. If good-sized means to Scott what it means to me, I'd change my vote, and agree with you.

Regardless of the result, I think these hypothetical discussions are great for both beginner and experienced hunters. I really appreciate hearing other people's thoughts on this sort of topic. I think a regular monthly or biweekly "what do you do" sort of discussion would be great.

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from jcarlin wrote 19 weeks 1 day ago

I voted on the hour. I haven't had exactly this scenario, but I'm of the "let em lay down" and have shock and blood loss take it's toll. It's warm here in the early bow season and I'm a relatively rural part of SE PA. Relatively rural still means that time and space is a tough trade. I arrowed 2 deer this year in Bucks and Montgomery Counties. Both ran for slightly more than 5 seconds before losign their feet. Had either of them managed to run at full tilt deer speeds for more than say 30 seconds, there are not a lot of places around here, even in the game lands, where that can't easily turn into multiple property lines and an ever decreasing chance of retrieval. We do have sufficient coyotes around to make leaving a deer over night questionable as well.
I have to say I've never cut into a deer that was dead for more than 3 hours, I'm sure it'll happen eventually, but letting lie overnight makes me worry about the meat.

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from jcarlin wrote 19 weeks 1 day ago

I admit, this particular scenario is making me second guess what I'd do. I meant to get around to the fact that I feel typically they're no different than you and me. Hurt me and the adrenaline rush keeps me going til the immediate threat is over. Make me sit still for 10 minutes and I have a hard time getting moving. I've always thought that an hour was a pretty good "sit tight and sit still" timeframe after the hit.

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from kmcbroom wrote 18 weeks 2 days ago

If the shot is questionable you should wait til morning unless it is raining but even then you would be better off waiting because even if the deer is gut shot it will not go far before laying down and as for coyotes they might not even find the deer. I know there are places where coyotes would be sure to get your deer but that is a different story I guess.

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from Mike beck wrote 17 weeks 6 days ago

I stick to my B If he is bleeding coyotes will find him most liver shots will bleed good if you are slow enough and do bump him back out slowly and bring a dog in the morring ( If its ok with state laws)

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from Glenrock wrote 14 weeks 6 days ago

I have bumped to many bucks I have hit in the liver and never found them so now I wait over night even if it is warm. Finding them is always better then not finding them even if the meat is spoiled.Of course I want to get meat from my deer but if it comes down to it you might have to wait.

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from Ncarl wrote 19 weeks 5 days ago

hmm, Im surprised that more people didnt go with 6 hours. It was my understanding that a liver hit deer will die it just might take him 7 or 8 hours.

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from Mark-O wrote 19 weeks 5 days ago

The temperature is 60 at the time of the shot. Makes it tough. I'd probably vote for a much longer time if the weather were a little cooler, but there's a good probability the meat will spoil if I don't recover the animal soon. So, I voted for one hour for that reason. Given colder weather, I'm in favor of waiting longer.

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from Ontario Honker ... wrote 19 weeks 4 days ago

First of all, the liver is a very large organ, depending on the species it can be the largest organ. Saying that it's hit through the liver really can mean many different scenarios. My dad shot a cow elk through the liver with 30-06 quartering away downhill, knocked her off her feet, and she never got up. She was seventy yards away at most. Dead by the time we walked down to her. I shot a very nice whitetail buck in the liver with 165 grain 30-06 and he ran off without leaving a drop of blood. Only by the grace of God did I happen to stumble on the thing later in the day as I was packing out a muley doe on my back. You just never know.

At that time of day follow the track immediately and for as long as possible. Leave flagging when there's no light left and pick up the trail when you have light. Honestly, no one should be out hunting without a light source in their pack anyway, and certainly not at the end of the day. Leaving a deer overnight in those temps is asking for trouble even if no coyotes were in the area. Bacteria ruins a lot more meat than those little dogs. Personally, I think anyone who takes a bow shot at dusk that isn't anything but a sure thing fatal doesn't know their business. Take the dicey shots in the morning. Get out of the stand by late afternoon if you're not real good at what your doing. I muffed more than a few late in the day shots with rifle over the years but never lost an animal. I tracked them all immediately.

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from deerhunterrick wrote 19 weeks 3 days ago

if you had read the article a little more closely it stated "Bright Red Blood" a liver shot would have been darker and sticky. Bright Red usuallu means a main artiery or air in the blood as would bubbles and pink foamy blood. With the temps in the 60's and only going down 10 degrees with the presence of coyotes the deer would have either been eaten within a few hundred yards or the meat would have been bad. Given the bright red blood I would not have even waited an hour. 30 minutes in the treestand and a call for an extra tracker would have been plenty of time. A gunshot would have been another story, Smaller entrance and exit would would have plugged up with a liver shot because of the fat content in the blood. An arrow that stays inside a running deer is like a meat slicer.It cuts more tissue and blood vessels with every movement. The deer would have drowned in it's own blood within a hundred yards

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from buckhunter wrote 19 weeks 5 days ago

Yep, a liver shot will take 6 hours and the deer will remain very mobile in those 6 hours. He'll stop bleeding quickly so it's best to keep him near. Come back at midnight and if you bump him once, come back in the morning. Be very slow and quiet while tracking.

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from themadflyfisher wrote 19 weeks 5 days ago

This year I liver shot a doe in the evening. waited about 45 min. then climbed out of the tree walked the 100 yards to where my 4 wheeler was got out a spot light that I use for coon hunting and slowly started on the deer by the time I got to the shot site it had been about 2 hours. the deer had circled my stand and was only 50 yards away bedded. I jumped her almost imediately and she took off down a ridiculously steep hill covered with laurel. To make a long story short I ended up finding her the next morning a LONG ways from my stand on a creek bank (I couldn't believe it! I was just about to give up on her).
I voted B because that's what I did. But if it happens again I'm just going to back out and come back in the middle of the night or morning.

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from buckhunter wrote 19 weeks 4 days ago

24scottK, I to am mildly shocked with the 55% with answer B.

I think some are over looking the 10 degree drop in temperature. Granted, 60 degree air will not hold much moisture but anytime the temperature drops over night there is a good possibility of dew on the grass in the morning hindering tracking.

Another issue is the arrow is still in the animal. This will limit your blood trail. It is always best to keep an animal close when blood is slim.

Since the animal disappeared over the hill, I would inspect the location where the animal was standing. If there are two tufts of hair, the arrow is sticking out the other side. One tuft of hair, you did not get a pass through. If the tufts are evenly between the front and the rear hoof print, you did hit center of body. The hoof print will also tell you the angle of the body when the arrow entered the body. The length of hair will tell you how high you hit on the body.

This type of scene investigation should be done on all shots because it is the fletching you see traveling towards the deer and not the broadhead. You cannot always assume they hit the same place.

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from Bwana Hunter wrote 19 weeks 3 days ago

For all deer species, and elk - We follow it up immediately having learned what a pack of wolves and even coyotes can do to the quarry in a very short span of time.

Now Gents, when the creature is armed themselves with formidable teeth, claws, horns, size, and lightning speed - "we'll take up the spoor first thing again in the morning". To which the trackers and clients nod soberly while peering into the oncoming gloom of the bush, and tightly murmur - "yes, lets do that..!"

Best/Bwana

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from hermit crab wrote 19 weeks 3 days ago

Deerhunterrick:
I don't think you'd get bubbles and/or foamy blood unless it's a hit in the lungs. I went back and reread the scenario. "good-sized drops of bright red blood" is pretty subjective, but if it's a liver hit, it must've got a pretty good artery. If good-sized means to Scott what it means to me, I'd change my vote, and agree with you.

Regardless of the result, I think these hypothetical discussions are great for both beginner and experienced hunters. I really appreciate hearing other people's thoughts on this sort of topic. I think a regular monthly or biweekly "what do you do" sort of discussion would be great.

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from walmsley wrote 19 weeks 5 days ago

Overnight! 8 hours Min! You jump him and the coyotes will eat ALL of him instead of just a little bit! And Scott: HUGE mistake to get down and "Follow the trail a short ways"! But you know that buddy! HeeHee!

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from steve182 wrote 19 weeks 5 days ago

I recovered a liver hit deer twenty or 30 minutes later this year. I wasn't rushing, i climbed down and tip-toed over to my arrow on my way out of the woods to back out. The blood trail was very pronounce. He was laying about 40 or 50 yds down the trail.

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from steve182 wrote 19 weeks 5 days ago

I must clarify though. I do not reccommend going after a questionably hit deer for at least a couple to few hours. A bumped wounded deer can and will often go a long way.

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from hermit crab wrote 19 weeks 5 days ago

Agree with Buckhunter. There's some big blood vessels leading to/from the Liver. Hit one of them and it'd bleed out real quick, but if hit liver without any major arteries/veins or even nick it, it may take a long time to bleed out if it does at all, and alot of that blood may stay in the body cavity. Better to wait it out and not risk jumping a deer that's may not bleed outside its body much...

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from Chewylouie wrote 19 weeks 5 days ago

I haven't done much bow hunting, but I voted for the one that was closest to what i would do. If the deer runs out of sight then you don't have to worry about the deer seeing you, but if he is alive he can smell/hear you.If you very quietly track to the to top the hill, as quickly as you can (light is running out), then just barely look over to see if you see the deer. If you don't see it keep following very quietly and listen hard for movement. In my experience, if a deer stops to rest, and lays down then they will bleed, and sometime flop their tail. If you do see it, then get comfortable and just wait unless you can tell it is dead. Depending on how much light you have left, you could try to shoot it again if you have a shot. I hunt with a recurve, so I wouldn't take another shot, even if I had another shot. Once again, I haven't done much bow hunting and I have never killed a deer with a bow, but this is what I would do.

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from 24scottk wrote 19 weeks 4 days ago

I'm sure everybody that has participated in this poll is a capable bow hunter, so for that reason I was shocked to see that 55% said they'd pursue a deer THEY KNOW they didn't double lung in just one hour. I'm in the "deer business" and I've tracked hundreds of wounded deer in the last ten years, and rarely will I find a liver shot deer dead in under several hours. One hour...bad idea in my opinion.

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from gijustin wrote 19 weeks 4 days ago

The problem is the temperature. Being 60 degrees, it won't take long for that meat to spoil, especially if it was a gut shot.

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from Silverback wrote 19 weeks 4 days ago

I say, sneak out. Go home and have dinner. Get a good luck kiss on the cheek from someone (usually my daughter) and head back out. 3 or so hours. If you have a friend, bring them. BRING YOUR BOW !! If you jusp it, back out and its at least 2 more hours till you go back. If you dont have time to do this. Dont shoot.

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from Drover1 wrote 19 weeks 4 days ago

I’ve heard so many stories like this in real life, and stories of trails lost in the dark, deer left overnight etc., that I wonder whether more bow hunters should call it quits a couple hours before sunset. I know that would cut out some of the best hunting time, but it could reduce the number of deer hit and lost, or found the next day after the meat is spoiled, especially in warm archery seasons.

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from Tom-Tom wrote 19 weeks 4 days ago

According to the manager at the local locker, the meat will begin to spoil at a temperature of 55 degrees and above. How long it would take for a dead deer to internally cool below 55 in 50 degree weather wouldjust be a guess. If the deer was hit between 6 and 7 pm, I would not want to start my search until daylight rather than try it at 3-4am. As for the coyotes, they gotta' eat too. If they bump that deer, they won't wait to take up the chase. And if you hunt long enough, you are going to find yourself in this position at some point.

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from Gtbigsky wrote 19 weeks 4 days ago

I have been in the same situation and have always felt its best to let them bed down and give them 6+ hours and then take up the trail. With a rifle it is a different story because of the damage caused by hydrostatic shock to surrounding soft tissue

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from jcarlin wrote 19 weeks 1 day ago

I voted on the hour. I haven't had exactly this scenario, but I'm of the "let em lay down" and have shock and blood loss take it's toll. It's warm here in the early bow season and I'm a relatively rural part of SE PA. Relatively rural still means that time and space is a tough trade. I arrowed 2 deer this year in Bucks and Montgomery Counties. Both ran for slightly more than 5 seconds before losign their feet. Had either of them managed to run at full tilt deer speeds for more than say 30 seconds, there are not a lot of places around here, even in the game lands, where that can't easily turn into multiple property lines and an ever decreasing chance of retrieval. We do have sufficient coyotes around to make leaving a deer over night questionable as well.
I have to say I've never cut into a deer that was dead for more than 3 hours, I'm sure it'll happen eventually, but letting lie overnight makes me worry about the meat.

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from jcarlin wrote 19 weeks 1 day ago

I admit, this particular scenario is making me second guess what I'd do. I meant to get around to the fact that I feel typically they're no different than you and me. Hurt me and the adrenaline rush keeps me going til the immediate threat is over. Make me sit still for 10 minutes and I have a hard time getting moving. I've always thought that an hour was a pretty good "sit tight and sit still" timeframe after the hit.

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from kmcbroom wrote 18 weeks 2 days ago

If the shot is questionable you should wait til morning unless it is raining but even then you would be better off waiting because even if the deer is gut shot it will not go far before laying down and as for coyotes they might not even find the deer. I know there are places where coyotes would be sure to get your deer but that is a different story I guess.

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from Mike beck wrote 17 weeks 6 days ago

I stick to my B If he is bleeding coyotes will find him most liver shots will bleed good if you are slow enough and do bump him back out slowly and bring a dog in the morring ( If its ok with state laws)

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from Glenrock wrote 14 weeks 6 days ago

I have bumped to many bucks I have hit in the liver and never found them so now I wait over night even if it is warm. Finding them is always better then not finding them even if the meat is spoiled.Of course I want to get meat from my deer but if it comes down to it you might have to wait.

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