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How do you feel about scent elimination products? Do the suits work? Do the sprays or gums or soaps? Can you forget the wind? How powerful is a deers nose and is total elimination possible. Have you had success in a suit or without a suit?
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I have a nieghbor who was always frustrated about his hunting abillity. This season he went to bass *** and bought every scent-lok garment he could find. Fitted completely head to toe with it he went his normal route into the woods. He filled his tag before winter set in. He took them with muzzleloader and one buck was the biggest hes had yet. Now that might be some expensive deer meat but I decided that I would try my hand at it. Not being of the same vocation and having those type of finances I bought redhead eduraskin from head to toe. I only still hunt and I had does close enough to scalp. If it goes this good next year I might have to start taking my camera. And yeah, forget the wind.
I have read such products as Scent Lok, while it is a workable concept, does not contain enough carbon too actually make a difference. I believe if you shower with scent elimination products, keep your clothing scent free, seal them in a scent safe bag, and you are wind conscious you will be fine.
I was on another blog where they provided scientific data that scent lok suits do not work wet and that the temperature necessary for reactivation is much higher than a household dryer could produce. Even prior to reading this evidence I was very skeptical of the suits.
Just think of it this way. If a deers nose is powerful enough to smell where you placed your foot on the ground for just a split second and still be able to smell that spot hours later then wouldn't you think they would be able to smell your breath or sweaty palms or any number of odors that escape through the seams, cuffs, collar, pant leg or boot top.
For one, I don't care what comes out, Scentlok, odor eliminaters, Anything! You can never completely eliminate 100% of your odor. Its impossible! If I had the money sure, I would go buy the whole shammy gammy outfit but I don't. I wear leafy 3D camo from... I beleive redhead or some other [mid-level] brand. Not too expensive but medium grade quality. As far as wind, Yea, you have to be pretty simple minded to think the wind won't get you busted while hunting. I mean come one! I've hunted a property this year with a guy who had been hunting it for 5 years, in that 5 years hes taken one turkey. He's a big time smoker and thinks the whole wind deal is a scam. I kill a 6 point,spike, and a doe during bow season untill he kicked me out. I've set in stands where the wind was against me and had does come right under the tree I have my climber in, litterly sniffing my tree and then walk 10 feet and wind me. Fact is playing the wind even without the high expensive stuff will enhace your odds tremendously! Theres no doubt, but in the same sense, it wont kill you either.
In the scent game the only thing you can do is to play wind direction. Save your money for ammo or a gun, the scent suites are a waste of money.
I have heard some good things about Scent-Lok and I would like to try it myself. Their products are really pricey though...keep that in mind sometimes.
Our bow season starts in oct. and by mid-sept I am using scent free soap,shampoo and deodorant. My endura-skin suit never leaves its container unless I am wearing it or its in the washer/dryer. It is not like scent-lok in that it uses silver-ion technology and not charcoal. Charcoal has to be re-activated but the sliver-ion is woven into the fabric. Also I spray myself down before each hunt. This is by far the best season I have had. Please understand that I bowhunt with a recurve and my feet on the ground and I had does (young) 10ft from me this season.I made fun of me too until I tried it.
Ive been hunting now for 5 yrs, 3 with the bow.An have obtained 7 deer,buck an doe combined 4/3 ratio's.Now my older brother in law is the one who got me started an goes lbs for lbs with me every year, most time out hunting me.An my younger brother in-laws(2) have either got 0 on hunts or just 1 in the 5 yrs.Now me an my older bro-inlaw use the soaps,hair wash,clothing wash an plus the sent lock sprays(earth scent).As the others never wash there cloths just hang them out side,an dont wash the nite before lol.So all the extra precations to maintain scent free hunts pays off.One hunt had me up walking after a few hrs.Got the chance to shoot(compound) at a black bear(so amazingly fast).In my adolecents of hunting of course I missed 2 shots. She stood up an sniffed the air .I was 40 yrds away an dont remeber down wind or what.So i went for the 3rd shot.Well to shorten the story she had cubs coming down the tree next to her when I went to shoot,seen the cubs, an I backed off the shot .But she never smelled me.So being scent free #1 to the start of hunting.
I tried scent elimator once when I went elk hunting with my dad and my two uncles. Either the scent elimator didn't work or their wern't any elk in that area because we didn't get anything.
Ive studied this in a way. I've never gotten sensed by a deer. It could have been me just being still, but i think the spray does do something. They cant just invent something like that without results. Whenever i have gone out hiking w/o scent elimination, you cannot get close to the deer unless your still. Scent elimination helps, but being still is the most important factor. You can put on as much scent elimination crap as you want, but if your constantly scratching yourself, the deer will spot you from a mile away.
Every little thing that you can use to your advantage to supress scent is definatly worth it. I'm not saying go out and pay $200+ on a suit, but I think they do help. I recieved some scent-lok base-slayers form NAHC to field test, and I noticed some difference. But I also keep my hunting clothes in a tupperware tub with pine boughs and never wear my clothes in the house or in a vehicle. I used to see guys from the city in the restaurant after opening morning, still in their hunting clothes complaining of no deer. I'd sit there and laugh, thinking it's probably because you smell like steak & eggs. Also, always wear rubber boots and spray yourself down with some sort of scent-killer.
I have never used scent lok clothing or anything like that be cause i have never had to as long as you leave your hunting clothes outside and take a bath with natural scent free soap your fine or at least its worked for me for the last 12 years now and i have had plenty of close encounters with deer.
I had an experience one time when i was younger. I watched a young spike horn walk across the trail where i had walked without any sent elemination gear on as soon as that that deer ran across my trail he put his nose on that trail and gave a snort and he was out of there. That was my first experience with a whitetails nose sent elemination products do work however they can go a little far with all their products. Sent elemination chapstick? common really? I like the sprays and i also like baking soda and water. Wash your hunting clothing in this and keep the wind in your face. You will be hauling your buck out before you know it. Did fred bear have that chapstick? not so much. Have fun and live the outdoor dream!
I had an experience one time when i was younger. I watched a young spike horn walk across the trail where i had walked without any sent elemination gear on as soon as that that deer ran across my trail he put his nose on that trail and gave a snort and he was out of there. That was my first experience with a whitetails nose sent elemination products do work however they can go a little far with all their products. Sent elemination chapstick? common really? I like the sprays and i also like baking soda and water. Wash your hunting clothing in this and keep the wind in your face. You will be hauling your buck out before you know it. Did fred bear have that chapstick? not so much. Have fun and live the outdoor dream!
I do believe that deer have an extremly intense sense of smell. I do was with the soap and sent free laundry detergents. But on the other deer can be curious about a different smell. I once had 2 deer right at the foot of my ladderstand licking the leaves where i had been spitting my chewing tobacco all day lol .
I believe more in cover scent than elimination. But I wouldn't scoff at both together.
I use it all,told my wife I go through precautions than a surgeon,I don't think you can totaly hide your scent just make them think it is old or you are farther away then they think.When that buck of a lifetime walks by why take any chances?
I have had deer and elk walk right past me (20 yards elk, 10 yards deer) while I was field dressing. I have had moose walk up within 5 yards while elk hunting (way too close for comfort)after a long and sweaty hike in. I have never used scent elimination products. I don't believe they do much. A cautious animal will leave in a hurry if it smells you, but most places, even in wilderness, the animals are used to smelling humans from time to time.
I think more hunters give themselves away by sound or sight than smell, but we all think we're ninja assassins and blame smell because we don't want to believe we were noisy in the woods or moved too fast. (How many of you have watched an animal passing upwind of you stop dead in its tracks and look right at you when you just knew you hadn't moved or made a sound? Do you really think that critter just magically found you?)
I have used several of the "scent elimination" products over the years, falling prey to marketing or trying to gain an advantage. I now use only baking soda to wash both myself and my laundry during hunting season. I am no more or less successful now as a result, but my wallet is heavier. The wind is the most important sent eliminator and not using heavy scented detergents is a close second, in my opinion.
I have gone the baking soda route, too. I hated the grit all over me and on my equipment. Now I buy an armload of the sprays AFTER hunting season at Wal-Mart, once they lower the price to nearly nothing. I spray all my clothing during archery season after washing them and line dry them. I agree, It's to expensive otherwise. (Just don't go to MY Wal-Mart to buy it on sale. OK?) Read more about scent control hunting here: http://www.elk-hunting-tips.net/scent-control-hunting.html.
Great link Dave
I have been practicing for years and can now hold my breath for about 90 seconds which is how long I can remain scent free in the woods.
Play the wind if you want to kill deer.
What settled the issue for me was watching a doe track me to my stand in the snow after I sprayed down my rubber boots. Three hours later she hit that trail and followed it right to the base of the tree.
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For one, I don't care what comes out, Scentlok, odor eliminaters, Anything! You can never completely eliminate 100% of your odor. Its impossible! If I had the money sure, I would go buy the whole shammy gammy outfit but I don't. I wear leafy 3D camo from... I beleive redhead or some other [mid-level] brand. Not too expensive but medium grade quality. As far as wind, Yea, you have to be pretty simple minded to think the wind won't get you busted while hunting. I mean come one! I've hunted a property this year with a guy who had been hunting it for 5 years, in that 5 years hes taken one turkey. He's a big time smoker and thinks the whole wind deal is a scam. I kill a 6 point,spike, and a doe during bow season untill he kicked me out. I've set in stands where the wind was against me and had does come right under the tree I have my climber in, litterly sniffing my tree and then walk 10 feet and wind me. Fact is playing the wind even without the high expensive stuff will enhace your odds tremendously! Theres no doubt, but in the same sense, it wont kill you either.
I was on another blog where they provided scientific data that scent lok suits do not work wet and that the temperature necessary for reactivation is much higher than a household dryer could produce. Even prior to reading this evidence I was very skeptical of the suits.
Just think of it this way. If a deers nose is powerful enough to smell where you placed your foot on the ground for just a split second and still be able to smell that spot hours later then wouldn't you think they would be able to smell your breath or sweaty palms or any number of odors that escape through the seams, cuffs, collar, pant leg or boot top.
Our bow season starts in oct. and by mid-sept I am using scent free soap,shampoo and deodorant. My endura-skin suit never leaves its container unless I am wearing it or its in the washer/dryer. It is not like scent-lok in that it uses silver-ion technology and not charcoal. Charcoal has to be re-activated but the sliver-ion is woven into the fabric. Also I spray myself down before each hunt. This is by far the best season I have had. Please understand that I bowhunt with a recurve and my feet on the ground and I had does (young) 10ft from me this season.I made fun of me too until I tried it.
I have a nieghbor who was always frustrated about his hunting abillity. This season he went to bass *** and bought every scent-lok garment he could find. Fitted completely head to toe with it he went his normal route into the woods. He filled his tag before winter set in. He took them with muzzleloader and one buck was the biggest hes had yet. Now that might be some expensive deer meat but I decided that I would try my hand at it. Not being of the same vocation and having those type of finances I bought redhead eduraskin from head to toe. I only still hunt and I had does close enough to scalp. If it goes this good next year I might have to start taking my camera. And yeah, forget the wind.
I have read such products as Scent Lok, while it is a workable concept, does not contain enough carbon too actually make a difference. I believe if you shower with scent elimination products, keep your clothing scent free, seal them in a scent safe bag, and you are wind conscious you will be fine.
I have heard some good things about Scent-Lok and I would like to try it myself. Their products are really pricey though...keep that in mind sometimes.
Ive been hunting now for 5 yrs, 3 with the bow.An have obtained 7 deer,buck an doe combined 4/3 ratio's.Now my older brother in law is the one who got me started an goes lbs for lbs with me every year, most time out hunting me.An my younger brother in-laws(2) have either got 0 on hunts or just 1 in the 5 yrs.Now me an my older bro-inlaw use the soaps,hair wash,clothing wash an plus the sent lock sprays(earth scent).As the others never wash there cloths just hang them out side,an dont wash the nite before lol.So all the extra precations to maintain scent free hunts pays off.One hunt had me up walking after a few hrs.Got the chance to shoot(compound) at a black bear(so amazingly fast).In my adolecents of hunting of course I missed 2 shots. She stood up an sniffed the air .I was 40 yrds away an dont remeber down wind or what.So i went for the 3rd shot.Well to shorten the story she had cubs coming down the tree next to her when I went to shoot,seen the cubs, an I backed off the shot .But she never smelled me.So being scent free #1 to the start of hunting.
Ive studied this in a way. I've never gotten sensed by a deer. It could have been me just being still, but i think the spray does do something. They cant just invent something like that without results. Whenever i have gone out hiking w/o scent elimination, you cannot get close to the deer unless your still. Scent elimination helps, but being still is the most important factor. You can put on as much scent elimination crap as you want, but if your constantly scratching yourself, the deer will spot you from a mile away.
Every little thing that you can use to your advantage to supress scent is definatly worth it. I'm not saying go out and pay $200+ on a suit, but I think they do help. I recieved some scent-lok base-slayers form NAHC to field test, and I noticed some difference. But I also keep my hunting clothes in a tupperware tub with pine boughs and never wear my clothes in the house or in a vehicle. I used to see guys from the city in the restaurant after opening morning, still in their hunting clothes complaining of no deer. I'd sit there and laugh, thinking it's probably because you smell like steak & eggs. Also, always wear rubber boots and spray yourself down with some sort of scent-killer.
I do believe that deer have an extremly intense sense of smell. I do was with the soap and sent free laundry detergents. But on the other deer can be curious about a different smell. I once had 2 deer right at the foot of my ladderstand licking the leaves where i had been spitting my chewing tobacco all day lol .
I believe more in cover scent than elimination. But I wouldn't scoff at both together.
I have gone the baking soda route, too. I hated the grit all over me and on my equipment. Now I buy an armload of the sprays AFTER hunting season at Wal-Mart, once they lower the price to nearly nothing. I spray all my clothing during archery season after washing them and line dry them. I agree, It's to expensive otherwise. (Just don't go to MY Wal-Mart to buy it on sale. OK?) Read more about scent control hunting here: http://www.elk-hunting-tips.net/scent-control-hunting.html.
In the scent game the only thing you can do is to play wind direction. Save your money for ammo or a gun, the scent suites are a waste of money.
I tried scent elimator once when I went elk hunting with my dad and my two uncles. Either the scent elimator didn't work or their wern't any elk in that area because we didn't get anything.
I have never used scent lok clothing or anything like that be cause i have never had to as long as you leave your hunting clothes outside and take a bath with natural scent free soap your fine or at least its worked for me for the last 12 years now and i have had plenty of close encounters with deer.
I had an experience one time when i was younger. I watched a young spike horn walk across the trail where i had walked without any sent elemination gear on as soon as that that deer ran across my trail he put his nose on that trail and gave a snort and he was out of there. That was my first experience with a whitetails nose sent elemination products do work however they can go a little far with all their products. Sent elemination chapstick? common really? I like the sprays and i also like baking soda and water. Wash your hunting clothing in this and keep the wind in your face. You will be hauling your buck out before you know it. Did fred bear have that chapstick? not so much. Have fun and live the outdoor dream!
I had an experience one time when i was younger. I watched a young spike horn walk across the trail where i had walked without any sent elemination gear on as soon as that that deer ran across my trail he put his nose on that trail and gave a snort and he was out of there. That was my first experience with a whitetails nose sent elemination products do work however they can go a little far with all their products. Sent elemination chapstick? common really? I like the sprays and i also like baking soda and water. Wash your hunting clothing in this and keep the wind in your face. You will be hauling your buck out before you know it. Did fred bear have that chapstick? not so much. Have fun and live the outdoor dream!
I use it all,told my wife I go through precautions than a surgeon,I don't think you can totaly hide your scent just make them think it is old or you are farther away then they think.When that buck of a lifetime walks by why take any chances?
I have had deer and elk walk right past me (20 yards elk, 10 yards deer) while I was field dressing. I have had moose walk up within 5 yards while elk hunting (way too close for comfort)after a long and sweaty hike in. I have never used scent elimination products. I don't believe they do much. A cautious animal will leave in a hurry if it smells you, but most places, even in wilderness, the animals are used to smelling humans from time to time.
I think more hunters give themselves away by sound or sight than smell, but we all think we're ninja assassins and blame smell because we don't want to believe we were noisy in the woods or moved too fast. (How many of you have watched an animal passing upwind of you stop dead in its tracks and look right at you when you just knew you hadn't moved or made a sound? Do you really think that critter just magically found you?)
I have used several of the "scent elimination" products over the years, falling prey to marketing or trying to gain an advantage. I now use only baking soda to wash both myself and my laundry during hunting season. I am no more or less successful now as a result, but my wallet is heavier. The wind is the most important sent eliminator and not using heavy scented detergents is a close second, in my opinion.
Great link Dave
I have been practicing for years and can now hold my breath for about 90 seconds which is how long I can remain scent free in the woods.
Play the wind if you want to kill deer.
What settled the issue for me was watching a doe track me to my stand in the snow after I sprayed down my rubber boots. Three hours later she hit that trail and followed it right to the base of the tree.
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